NHS Vaccine Mandate “To Be Delayed”

The NHS vaccine mandate is likely to be “kicked down the road”, a Whitehall source has told the Telegraph, amid demands by Conservative MPs for it to be scrapped entirely. The Telegraph has the story.

Compulsory Covid vaccines for NHS workers would be delayed for six months, under eleventh-hour plans being considered by Boris Johnson to help quell a seismic revolt among Tory MPs.

On Saturday night, just two weeks before the NHS is due to begin sacking staff who have not had a jab, a Whitehall source said that the requirement is likely to be “kicked down the road”, amid demands by Conservative backbenchers for it to be dropped entirely. …

All frontline NHS staff are required to have had two jabs by April 1st, but more than 80,000 – 6% of the workforce – remain unvaccinated.

The plan being considered at senior levels of Government is to overhaul the requirement so that staff would, in theory, be required to have their booster too. The deadline would also be delayed by six months, ostensibly to give workers time to get their third jab. Such a delay is likely to reassure some MPs opposed to the move that it will ultimately not transpire.

It was starting to feel inevitable, but it’s good to see signals appearing. Now we just need to see it permanently scrapped, and the care home mandate removed as well.

Worth reading in full.

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Will
Will
4 years ago

Great news. This would represent a significant fissure in the vaccine narrative. Once the vaccines become fair game the game may well be up.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

Don’t be fooled – just another Johnson tactic – like having his hair cut in the hope of being taken more seriously. No chance of that!.

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Indeed David….

It a well-known [proven] military strategy to feign a withdrawal that the opposition then floods into thinking the tide has turned… meanwhile on the flanks the enemy has in fact been bolstering a new death blow offensive.

We for sure have gained some territory with the vaxxing counter narrative, this last six weeks however holding [permanently] this gain is vital.

Again Bozo might be angling to lessen too swift a catastrophic destruction of Blighty’s own legacy heavy-carbon economy. If we descend slower than our EU rivals… he gets the 99% support.

This is a tightrope dance.

Unless a high ranking Govt mole starts posting here at DS as to defined insights…we’ll not know the true extent of WEF capture of our cabinet teams and cross-party MPs. This is a dirty war with many moving parts.

However the unbridled anger of the masses is the weapon that Globocap fears most.

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

“Reculer pour mieux sauter”!

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Good observations.

Prester John
Prester John
4 years ago

Clap these heroes? Certainly.

NeilParkin
4 years ago

A rare moment of common-sense. I would much prefer that it was because the Cabinet and PM had recognised the futility of ‘not spreading’ an endemic virus that the vaccine neither stops you catching, nor transmitting, rather than the backbenchers having Boris’s arm up his back.

Now, can we convince the NHS Medical Director.? She seems to be struggling with the basic logic of this, and on her salary she really ought to be able to grasp the essence of this.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

This is why the reluctance to give in on anything.

First, they admit mandates are wrong
Next, they are forced to concede the jabs are ineffective.
Next, they are forced to acknowledge the jabs have caused harm.
Next , they are forced to admit they knew and the public was misled.
Next, they lose their jobs.
Lastly, they are hauled before a judge.

If I were I one of these compromised officials and was in any way complicit in all this, I wouldn’t give an inch either.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I think – and our best hope – is that being forced to admit they knew and did nothing is where we will see the fissure.

Some probably blindly followed Whitty and Vallance & MHRA and thought the vaccines were safe. Whitty, Vallance and the MHRA have no such excuse. They’ll be the first to be swinging from the rafters, when those who were tricked realise what has happened and where they can pin the blame.

NeilParkin
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

“You can’t fool all the people, all of the time.” Abraham Lincoln

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

But you can fool “some of the people all the time” – i this case with the help of the BBC, Globalist Comcast SKY and the print media, about 70% of the population?

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Best 100k NHS/Freedom demo sign in London yesterday….

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NeilParkin
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Of course thats true. However as the hypocrisy and illogicality become ever more obvious, there is a dawning on more and more people that things aren’t what they seem and they should have been asking more questions.

That’s one of the problems with plans about global takeovers. They never factor in the awkward b’stards who notice whats going on and won’t play along..

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Interesting that Van Tam has jumped ship….a case of “I was only obeying orders” being prepared perhaps?

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

He needs to be stung up

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

“strung?”

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Both!

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

I’ll get the wasps!

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

“pedantic” ?

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Absolutely; a FoI request requesting his internal emails and notes of meetings he attended since circa Autumn 2019 would make very interesting reading; not a hope in hell it would be succeed – but it should.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

If these nobodies step out of line, the rulers will have their guts for garters.

…Trying to recall the H P Lovecraft quote about how they can dispense with those who serve them…

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Is isn’t Common Sense – it is a tactic = these Schwab/ Gates Zealots are on a mission to deliver the Great Reset!

This is just a pause along the road for them.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

She is struggling with her true “loyalty” to Big Pharma, Schwab and his Great Reset more like!

This is nothing whatever to do with a man- made virus used to prime the long prepared ‘experimental ‘mRNA Gene Therapy vaccine assault on the population world!

stewart
4 years ago

Delayed for six months. So a temporary, tactical retreat.

We are going to have to fight hard to win back every single inch of ground lost to Covid totalitarianism.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

You think they’ll be happier to sack 100k in October, just when the NHS is gearing up for its regular winter overwhelming?

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

They could, of course, deny any such overwhelming when October comes around. They could, in fact, do anything at any time!

This is an arbitrary rule by evil, irrational, morons.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Hardly ‘morons’ – they’ve got lots and lots of money! And a whole population under their control. And all the time in the world to close in and round up any potential troublemakers, all aided with automated computer systems.

If these ‘vaccinations’ really were forced, ie. they come round to your home to do it, what would happen? A little struggle and then saying “Well, at least I tried to resist.” It could be that the chance to really fight this has never actually existed – and ‘they’ know it.

Let’s say 6% of the NHS workforce gets sacked. That would just mean less service/treatment for ‘the poor’. Those who can afford it will go private, as they do right now. What would people do about it? -become ‘angry’, and vote for Labour who just want more of the same?!

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Yes they are morons. Anyone who willingly chooses evil over good is a moron. Because evil cannot win. They’re riding a tiger.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Nothing stops “morons” having lots and lots of money – look around the world!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

“Evil, irrational morons” – there you have the perfect picture.

gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

No, by then the whole shitshow will have been wound down further. They will say they’ve reviewed the situation and a mandate won’t be required. They’ll say that any mandate would have been a temp measure anyway.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  gone_loopy

Gates is already warning of new viral dangers down the line – he must have his next vaccines on tap!

They think they are on a roll with this!

We are dealing with the criminally insane

sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

that’s what i thought too  criminally insane , or else bond villains

sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago
Reply to  gone_loopy

i sure hope so! that’s what my more calm friends think

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

They hope to have paid-off, persuaded recruited and cajoled by then – a steady stream of resignations is easier to deal with.

There is nothing but devious guile in this. It is now very clear that we are not dealing with decent and honourable people at the head of this organisation.

The fact that the vile ” strategic objective” of forcing the vaccination of all staff with a product which has so far killed between 2,000 and possibly as many as 20,000 British people is still in place.

Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

We just have to hope that there will be more information about the harms of the injections by then; this could happen. Any delay is better than their ploughing ahead and a lot can happen in 6 months. Those doctors and scientists who are against the mass vaccination are not going to give up easily, thank god.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

On the march in Manchester yesterday and an NHS employee told me that a lot of consultants are taking early retirement. Even if this disgusting mandate is dropped we are still going to have problems.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

People want out of the sh*t show NHS – who can blame them. We all need to start putting by money in a tin every week for our Medicare needs!

Looking at the eye-watering soaring costs, many will be mortgaging the house or going untreated.

The Johnson “New Deal” in action!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

There now seems more information about vaccines harm every day.
The latest estimate on deaths in the US, from several different source suggests a figure of 150,000 – thee time the number of deaths in the 20 year Vietnam War!

Are the flood-gates creaking yet?

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

If they are all forced to require a booster (third death jab) by October there will surely be many more “hesitants” by then. The full magnitude of this evil is slowly unravelling.

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

If they only delay it by 6 months, and require 3 jabs not 2, then the sackings will be due to start fairly soon anyway, not in 6 months’ time. My guess is that nhs staff would be required to get their first jab within a couple of months. Not much of a reprieve, but still a good chance to get an almighty class action suit or group grievance in.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Agreed they are buying time, they will stab these people in the back.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Yes, they need to get over the winter so they face no crisis in the Service and can then sack at will!

A full-on Winter crisis would have sunk them – this is merely ‘a tactical retreat in order to move forward’.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Don’t forget there are local elections in May.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Don’t rely on the “Fully Vaxxed and Proud” electorate to wake up! The Cognitive Dissonance brought on by encountering the truth for the first time i two years is just too much for them.

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Delayed for six months to give the rest time to get boosted,what a sick joke. They may be delaying the NHS death jab in order to re-align with a whole population mandate.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

New offensive against the population planned – time to dig the ditches!

We know no-one in the Johnson Government can be trusted- not one of them .

They have all signed off on this crminal ‘event’.

Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago

We have been told repeatedly the the vaccine doesn’t reduce transmission and that its only long term effect is to reduce the likelihood of serious outcomes for the recipient. What is the science behind the original vaccine mandate for NHS staff and the predicted reduction in nosocomial infections?
Could it be that nobody in authority has got past knee-jerk reactions and hasn’t actually tried to quantify the benefits?

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

There is no science.
It’s a take over by a bunch of global oligarchs.
The officials who should have stood up to it either laid down in fear, we’re bullied into playing along or were happy to collaborate.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I think it is this simple. That’s why I can’t be bothered to look at all the graphs and charts stuck up on here – it doesn’t matter what the figures/statistics ‘prove’, those running this show are barging on regardless. They tell their army of sheep that those who can see through their scam are ‘conspiracy nutters and anti-vaxxers’ and the sheep say “Baa Baa Blackrock, tell us what to do!”

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

There has never been any action that wasn’t knee-jerk, motivated by greed, ambition and any number of other nefarious reasons. The total absence of, and stubborn refusal to provide any sort of cost-benefit analysis (not just financial) exemplifies the “seat of the pants” approach.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

There is no long term risk reduction for the injected. The injections have zero efficacy. Any purported efficacy attributed to them is based on fraudulent government modelling.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Is the negative efficacy a result of the fraudulent modelling too? Or is that real? Or could it be even worse than the data suggest?

I feel like it’s kind of important we know these things, given that coronavirus vaccines have a long history of ADE.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

The negative efficacy following the first two weeks after the injection is real as VAERS shows this is the time period when 85% of the immediate deaths and injuries occur. This is why our government deliberately classify those who have been injected as ‘unvaxed’ for the two weeks following the injection.

Its a statistical fraud that moves vaxed deaths into unvaxed deaths. The same fraud was conducted in the staged trials.

However, the governments modellers need to show the purported efficacy ‘wears off’ after a few weeks because this is then used to justify further injections.

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Deborah T
Deborah T
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Exactly. This practice started in the US, I believe. I don’t know why it hasn’t been raised by MPs! I’d write to mine, but, based on my correspondence with him on the two years, that would be a waste of time. If anyone’s MP is one of the ‘rebels’, please let them know this is what they are doing.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

I have written to Sir Desmond Swayne and he has replied promptly and courteously every time and he is not my MP.

Epi
Epi
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Old Bedfordian you know!

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I have to admit that dumping the newly vaccinated cases <14 days ( when it is known that having the vaccine greatly increases your covid risk) into the unvaccinated group is pure genius.

a good example here of how to manipulate statistics to show a positive result: https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/bayesian-datacrime-defining-vaccine?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo0ODg1MjIzMSwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDY4NjM2NTYsIl8iOiJsK3lydCIsImlhdCI6MTY0MjA4NTE5OCwiZXhwIjoxNjQyMDg4Nzk4LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMzIzOTE0Iiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.X-OqrB2eijRdyO6Q_pPgNAtpsWPh4AhchNjGr1hsA7Q

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Indeed – the long term risk is from the injections themselves!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

If only we had decent Courts and Judges, the mandates would have been ruled illegal months ago.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Good news – if it is true.

The underlying irrationality is still intact, however.

Either the vaccines are essential or not, either effective or not, either coercion is right or not. And if the former – on what logic is the gov rowing back?

A true ’emergency’ that can be cancelled overnight to save face, is, never was, nor can be an emergency.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

The March 1st deadline was always comically suspicious. Timed to coincide with what they expected to be the end of the annual winter surge.

It’s almost as comical as the reports of jabbed health workers in the US who are testing positive being called in to work. “Covid” is terrifyingly dangerous.,. until it’s inconvenient that it is, and then it’s not a dangerous at all it seems.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

And yet the compliant zombies can’t register the contradictions!

Or maybe they can, but it would mean registering having been hoodwinked. Playing along with lies is more convenient for them than standing and living in the truth.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Talking of Zombies, the ‘Game of Thrones’ now seems prophetic rather than fantasy….is Fauci a ‘White Walker’ perhaps?

Do I recall the “Sacrifice” of male Wildling children?

gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Yes if a nurse unjabbed was really a danger then they would be removed from patient care immediately and not allowed to return until they were jabbed.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  gone_loopy

Excellent point – in a rational world.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  gone_loopy

Plus the jabses already ‘protect’ the patient, right? RIGHT?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

But you are a logical, rational person looking at the world objectively …..there’s the problem.

We are dealing with genocidally inclined Billionaire psychopaths on a ‘mission’ together with their psycophantic creatures and minions across the world.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

They are sad men in thrall to the ultimate fool: Satan.

And a Bond villain is their role model. How disappointingly trite.

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

They have made a tactical error , rowing back exposes their mendacity for all to see .

barmpot
barmpot
4 years ago

So the wazuks have got us watching their right hand. Best keep an eye on what their f”cking left hand is up to.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  barmpot

Indeed! Don’t turn your back on them!

Chris_uk
4 years ago

Wonderful news, and an extremely important story, but nothing on the BBC. And nothing on the BBC about the huge NHS protest in London yesterday.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

The BBC is beneath contempt.

Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  Chris_uk

Nothing on the BBC about the huge protest outside BBC headquarters.

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huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

It didn’t happen then. 😕

oblong
4 years ago

Attended the protest at Liverpool. Was a good turn out. Enjoyed the march through city centre. Was surprised how many snowflake shoppers were wearing masks outside. Not more than 10% but why? Had some heckling from some young boozers. Should good heckling sent back their way.
I would like to see the mandate complete removed and not just delayed

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  oblong

Heckling some young boozers – perhaps they will go home and think about what was said and ‘wake up’.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  oblong

We had one heckler at Manchester yesterday. He kept screaming “get a f#ck#ng job.”

Obviously he had been watching some 70’s re-runs. Very funny.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Wonder why he assumed that the protesters were unemployed? Down to the success of the government / media at protraying all protestors as soap-dodgers who are permanently on the dole?

cornubian
4 years ago

I cannot see this mandate being dropped simply because the injection programme, and movement restriction license, aka ‘vaccine passport’, that comes with it, is all part of the elites NWO digital ID, full spectrum surveillance strategy to track and control in real time every human activity on earth. With the ultimate goal, of course, being to introduce a China-style social credit score that keep every human on the planet locked into a cyber prison without walls – forever. The key to successfully implementing their plan rests on forcing everyone to subject themselves to a fake vaccine for a fake pandemic. The fake pandemic was generated by a bogus testing system that 1. Grossly inflated the ‘covid’ death toll and 2. Manufactured a fatuous ‘casedemic’ that ensured a healthy population was categorised as sick. The fake ‘vaccine’ was created by a government ‘modelling’ charade that fabricates fantastic efficacies out of injections that both the BMJ (26/11/20) and The Lancet (20/4/21) showed have ZERO efficacy. Unless they can convince people these useless, and in many cases wholly dangerous, injections, saved both them and society as a whole, their whole strategy fails. Therefore, the success of the globalist 2020 coup rests upon every… Read more »

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BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Not saying you’re wrong, but why are the gov delaying it then? Will there be a better moment than now to sack the 70,000?

Surely they could easily get away with it?

How could they more easily re-escalate to sacking them anyway in six months time, for example?

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

We are being boiled like frogs. If they fear us jumping out of the pot, they turn the heat down until we get more relaxed, then slowy bit by bit turn it up again.

There are many ways they can achieve their goal that dont involve mass sackings and the subsequent backlash – which is the equivalent of the frogs jumping out of the pot..

They threatened mass sackings in the hope that it would leave just a small rump of resistors, but that tactic failed, so now they will move to the real ‘Plan B’, which involves picking smaller groups off a bit at a time, relocating staff to lower grades on grounds of safety, making work life difficult for resistors so they leave voluntarily, advertising posts for the ‘vaxed’ compliant only and so on.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I have a suspicion that they will somehow backdown fully on nhs mandates and introduce another one that they would deem more acceptable to all as a first move and involve fewer unvaccinated people, namely all the over 60s. Then just as they did with the initial rollout they’ll keep reducing the age.

Deborah T
Deborah T
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

As a 63 year-old…, they can f___ off.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

As a 62 yr old… I’m with you 😊

Mike Durrans
Mike Durrans
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

As a 77yr old… I hope they try, I still enjoy a fight

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Ditto.

refusenick
4 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

Word

RTSC
RTSC
4 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

Same here ….. age AND sentiment 🙂

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Yes they will pick off small sections of the unvaxed a bit at a time. they have a track record of doing this. Dont forget also that in October, respiratory disease rates start to rise again and this is likey to be blamed on the unvaxed – heaping more public scorn and pressure on us. They need to ensure the unvaxed are not subjed to any public goodwill, as this will make it easier for them to persecute us.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I agree, the good news is that the dam of truth, regarding side effects is being held together by someone sticking their finger in the hole. I think many nhs workers have already left and many more will do so and once they’ve gone they’ve no reason to stay silent on their experience of the last 2 years.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

There is no shortage of truth-tellers but the enemy control nearly all the means of mass communication so the difficulty is finding a platform for them.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

The signs are there that that too is changing, just as the more astute among tptb are beginning to realise they’re going to be on the wrong side of history and are backtracking so are some in the msm. I’m not saying we aren’t going to have one hell of a fight on our hands, because we are, the next 12 months are going to be frought especially for the unvaxxed in my opinion. But for the first time in two years I can see a glimmer of light in the distance.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

I describe their on-off pressure as being like the tide coming in. Each wave pushes further than the last, then retracts. After eaxh lull, the next wave comes crashing in.

We need to be hopeful that this isn’t a lull but rather the effects of the prosecutions going on. By now, I should hope many of them will be gaining traction. Would also explain Van Tam jumping ship and the relative silence of the other corrupt shit heads that have terrified the public constantly for 2 solid years.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Genuine political opposition, is the answer.

These people are powerful and have managed to do a lot in such a short space of time, but they are not omnipotent.

And in the end these Davos people are ultimately acting in fear of the masses. Their Great Reset is their sick minded response to their fear of pitchforks coming for them.

National governments still have to deal with the people and they are obviously going to face some set backs. It’s not going to be all plain sailing the whole way. They’ve had enough of that already.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

This is why sites like this are so important. We can use the cut and thrust of debate to formulate what their real plans are and at the same time convey this message to a wider audience who are on a sharp learning curve.

Make no mistake, World War III is under way but at the moment its primarily an information war.

They have been working many years to ensure their UN/WEF agents control all the positions of power and influence. Their agents, sympathisers and collaborators also control all the important nodes of information.

If we are to achieve critical mass, the few resistors there are must work extra hard to get the message out to as many probable converts as possible.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

“This is why sites like this are so important. We can use the cut and thrust of debate to formulate what their real plans are and at the same time convey this message to a wider audience who are on a sharp learning curve.”

What happens if SAGE decide to pull the plug on this site?

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

This is why we need to continue creating the new internet – the BSV Blockchain.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Yes, and this is why sites like this are under threat!

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

“And in the end these Davos people are ultimately acting in fear of the masses.”

“Heckling some young boozers” – will have the Davos crowd shaking in their wellies!

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

The ’emergency powers’ the govt granted itself run out in April, delaying the jab programme for six months gives them an excuse to extend those powers. By the end of that period they will have created a new crisis for the NCS and will have to extend the emergency powers again, just as we go into winter.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

“We have always been at war with The Emergency Powers”

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

Our craven MPs are the reason we still have a ‘State of Emergency’ – I know mine voted against it .

Those who have MPs who are complicit in this tyranny should be bombarding them with emails and texts telling them what to do!

Without their fraudulent ‘Emergency’,their powers fall.
It is blatantly obvious that here is no emergency’ and never was – “Real” Covid deaht stats over two years – 17,000 – fewer than a bad flu season – this in a period where flu miraculously virtually disappeared from the figures.

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Yes ,17000 + average age of covid death 82 this was announced on GB News last night.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Over three season! Covid was here in winter 2019/20

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Indeed – three seasons of this madness already!

gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

i agree, they had the majority of the population on their side, they had the momentum.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

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Mac57
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian
karenovirus
4 years ago

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Yesterday my Google news feed included a Guardian report about Tucker Carlson comparing Mandates to the medical experiments of Josef Mengele.

Expecting a hurty but amusing hit piece on Carlson from the Guardian, imagine my surprise to be reading a remarkably balanced report that merely repeated Tuckers claims and outlined some important US Court rulings against Mandates.

TC “I thought after Mengele that America had decided compulsory medical care was unethical. When did we forget that ?”

The only negative comment came when the Guardian reporter described Carlsons guest, Robert Malone, as an “ant-vaxxer” which some might regard as a badge of honour.

I was so surprised by the neutrality of the report that I had to check back to my Google feed that it really was a Guardian article that I was reading, twice.

Sorry, can’t do links from this Android.

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Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Google and the Grauniad? Surprised you didn’t throw in the New Statesman….

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

Know thine enemy

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Now that is worrying.

What’s going on?

Bobby Lobster
Bobby Lobster
4 years ago

Not a full u-turn, but partial. Eventually they will have to pull it! Then, why is everyone else still being pushed into accepting dangerous, useless, gunk?

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Bobby Lobster

It’s just another 6 months for SAGE to have them dangling on a string, another 6 months of psychological torture, with no-one knowing if they’ll have a job by October or not.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Many will take their chance and walk anyway after this.

I have a relative who having decided not to have the jab was coerced to take it with threats of “no future” in her “Health” related company.

After the jab, she was ill with very bad side effects and regretted her decision and then found she was also pregnant – we have been very concerned for a year .

The baby seems to be fine – but she is not and has not fully recovered since the birth and has had infections and now has heart pains.

The GPs are slow to respond – weeks of waiting for just an X-Ray yet to happen – and prescribe antibiotics for raised white blood cell count to fight an unspecified ‘infection’.

Obviously we are now worried about possible pericarditis. In the meantime her employer has told her she is ‘required’ to have a second jab – more coercion. .

If this persists ,she will be forced to give up her job for her health.

Johnson’s “New Britain” 2022

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

This government are utter scum .

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

Are they expecting ‘the unjabbed NHS workers’ to get all three jabs with 8 months starting from now? Or just the third ‘booster’?
By October the 5th jab will have been rolled out.

And how will their ‘Covidian’ co-workers like to be working beside ‘the unjabbed’? All part of the plan to smash the NHS? Just think of the amount of money that has already been diverted away from the NHS, given to their mates to procure face masks and ‘tests’.

£400 billion (??) frittered/squandered/given to their mates – none for the homeless/hungry/desperate/suicidal. But “they really care about you!”

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

If the plan is to smash up the NHS, I’m in.

A detail in the article which I’m sure many didn’t pay much attention to is that 80,000 workers is only 6% of the total NHS workforce. The NHS is an absolute monster.

It’s too big to manage and govern properly, it has too much power and it gets way too much reverence.

it has been used as a pretext for turning our lives upside down and people have bought the pretext. It has to go.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I like the idea of a National Health Service, always have. But one that is run ‘properly’.
I don’t like the idea of telling people who become ill to “Piss off” if they can’t afford to see a doctor or pay for medical treatment.
My outlook would be to ‘improve’ the NHS, not get rid of it.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

In which European countries do they refuse treatment for lack of money?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

They don’t ‘refuse’ treatment as such – just make you wait two years for it and tell you ought to be grateful!

Polemon2
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Sound like the NHS then!

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Yes. It’s a case of ‘Be careful of what you wish for’. The sloppy use of the term ‘the NHS’ often seen here is just a symptom of political dogma. The real issues are about management and politicized control.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

And remember that the vast majority of people do not really understand the bureaucratic structure of “The NHS”, how it’s managed, and so on. Some of us who have been “experienced patients” for one reason or another have a better insight of it, but most do not. For most, it’s just another brand name.

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

There needs to be more detail and transparency on the number of NCS workers and In which groups the unjabbed actually are – the NCS is indeed huge but frontline doctors and nurses in hospitals form a relatively small proportion. What about the ancillary workers, admin and clerical, those working in supplementary services? Agency workers? What about GPs, whose practices are essentially private businesses?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

NCS?

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I assume ‘National Covid Service’

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The “weaponsing” of the NHS may prove to be the biggest mistake of those trying to force us into the ‘Great Reset’ dystopia.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Absolutely.

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago

I’m no expert when it comes to the length of medical training or NHS requirements, but don’t they say that they are about 90,000 short already – and doesn’t it take about 3 or 4 years to train a nurse and 3 years longer a doctor.
Do the maths, and winter’s coming again in 6 months.
Lol. Ain’t going to happen.

But, mandatory jabs for everyone is still very much alive – just look at the MSM and kids for God’s sake.

We’ve got the fight of our lives on our hands to stop this criminal insanity.
Hold the line, push back, convert a sheep a day, put up slogans, demonstrate, annoy the bastards whenever possible.

Adrian25
4 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

I have tried friendly persuasion and reasoning with limited success.
Unfortunately, it takes a serious adverse event to themselves or someone close to them, soon after the jabbing, before they believe it.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

It appears to be NOT the time taken to train either, but the quality of the training; reading Dr K’s 3 tomes indicates that a significant part of Doctor training is severely compromised by ….the influence of the pharmaceutical industry (causes and treatment of CV/Diabetes, the LDL/HDL/Cholesterol/saturated fat …scam, the NICE but Pharma led delivery by spreadsheet of what is deemed to be health care, but is nothing of the kind, indiscriminate use of BMI as a health metric “tool” – a very apt description) ….and having been exposed to a 30 something GP telling me “stuff” that I have independently verified as bollocks , I see his analysis spread over the 3 tomes is indeed ..accurate. How many GPs in the UK employ trained, Doctor level qualified, nutritional scientists..? Nurses now need a degree – but they do NOT, according to TOH, do the basic nurse training of decades ago; this has been the case for some time and in her experience leads to SHO/reg/SnrReg/Cons intervention in episodes where previously Nurses were pre-eminent. Nurses can then become midwives – and if you want to see the effect of that , ask your local NHS Trust Women’s and Children’s management… Read more »

Catee
4 years ago

Great piece on Neil Oliver, GBN last night regarding the vax mandate, includes that well known voice of reason, Jon Gaunt – well worth a watch.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

It did kick off a bit didnt it, Gaunt does not want to be on the wrong side and even used the excuse that people get things even without a jab.

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Gaunt called Abi Roberts a loud mouthed yob. Link to reply https://twitter.com/search?q=abi%20roberts&src=typed_query

Steve-Devon
4 years ago

In the UK there has been a determined push for mRNA vaccines with any other possibilities firmly kicked into the long grass. However the EU and Australia have now approved Novavax along with a number of other countries. The EU is talking about approving Valneva with roll out starting in April. It does make me wonder if the UK, having pushed the mRNA potions as far as they can go, will now approve alternatives and attempt to sign up the un-vaccinated NHS staff by offering alternatives?
Given the current status of the virus; vaccinations of any sort look ludicrous, but then ludicrous was been very much the watchword over the last 2 years.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

They won’t work either. Though they may be marginally safer (not difficult)

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

How can anything work agains a constantly mutating Corina virus ? Isn’t this why we haven’t a universal vaccine for the common cold and never will have ?

The scam has been built on the total ignorance of the population, the majority of whom still have no clue what a “nanoparticle” or “synthetic spike protein” is or why the latter being manufactured by the billion in the cells of the injected.

Ask them about ADE and Cytokine Storms and they go blank.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Perhaps the most obvious symptom of ignorance is the loose employment of the term ‘Covid’.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Also the term vaccine.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

They changed the medical definition of the term ‘vaccine’ to make it possible for them to use it – this alone should warn us of the ‘criminal intent’ to deceive the people!

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

And aren’t necessary anyway – there’s no need for a vaccine against a jumped-up cold.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Good point. Pfizer has said it is working on the next version of their jab and Bill Gates is publicly saying they need to produce better versions of the jabs (he knows about having to have a few goes, the first useable Windows which took the world by storm was version 3.1).

The current jabs are becoming unmarketable. They could very well be holding fire until they get their next generation of COVID jabs out.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Windows is really not a good analogy! Every version has has issues, and roughly every alternate one has been utterly crap.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

So a perfect analogy then, because every other jab that comes out will probably be crap too…:-)

At least compared to our natural immune system.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Nobody needs Novavax nor Valneva – you are just perpetuating the scam. These are just more ‘vaccines’ to keep populations hostage, and to continue the Vaxx Pass requirements, travel restrictions, face masks, ‘social distancing’ and all the rest of the nonsense that is ‘Covid’.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I don’t care how many versions of the jab they make I am not having any. Ive never had a flu jab and I’m certainly not having a Covid jab, I have faith in my immune system.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Spot on comment!

JamesDrebin
4 years ago

From the pay-walled article:

The plan being considered at senior levels of Government is to overhaul the requirement so that staff would, in theory, be required to have their booster too. The deadline would also be delayed by six months, ostensibly to give workers time to get their third jab. Such a delay is likely to reassure some MPs opposed to the move that it will ultimately not transpire.

So a pause in order to push even further. Not a reprieve.

Apache
Apache
4 years ago
Reply to  JamesDrebin

An article in The Times yesterday had 20% of NHS staff as not having had the 3rd shot. Where I work colleagues are openly saying that the ‘booster’ is too much and will not be having it. Of course if it is mandated and particularly if it is an ‘improved vaccine’ people may change their minds.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Apache

“Improved” in what sense ? Are the fatalities below expectation?

Isn’t 15% the “target”?

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Apache

Yep, twice bitten, third time shy. Are they really going to sack up to a fifth of the nhs workforce?

FlynnQuill
4 years ago

As we know this has nothing to do with protecting patients. If it was, then why wasn’t it brought in on the very day it was announced? Surely to delay even one hour could kill a patient. No, our government waited five months to implement a rule they said was being brought in to save lifes. How could people not see through this? Never underestimate the stupidity of human beings.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago

The power is with the 70,000 demand they drop the requirement altogether otherwise walk out en masse, otherwise the threat will be held over your heads whilst they make arrangements to bring in overseas staff etc to replace you.

FlynnQuill
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

I’d like to know where 70,000 has suddenly come from. It seems like a nudge from the media to make people look like over 60,000 have capitulated and took the jab. Some may have due to having to support their family but over half, i don’t believe for one second. A couple of weeks ago it was 150,000 that hadn’t had the jab!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  FlynnQuill

The Mass Media lies , the Politicians lie and the Pope used to be a Christian.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Yes and they will be upping the number of arrivals at Dover – just watch!

All those “Brain Surgeons” just waiting their ‘fast tracked’ chance!

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Maybe training medical staff like they do the forces, sign up for 12 years, receive medical training all paid for, keep doing this and you’ve got a continuous force, could be the answer to the staff shortage.

Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago

Does anyone really believe they will now get rid of a large number of staff in the build-up to the next winter surge (from whatever)? Of course not.
The threat will disappear permanently.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

Just like the restrictions for international travel have disappeared, you mean?

I think this is just ‘The Covid Show’ continuing…. “another few months”… whilst the money from the tests and jabs keeps on rolling in.

Did anyone go back to collect their NHS uniforms laid out on the ground outside Downing Street yesterday? They’ll need them for work next week!!

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

Maybe the government are buying themselves time to get the overseas replacement workers in.

ImpObs
4 years ago

The NHS vaccine mandate is likely to be “kicked down the road”

Ah the old 3 steps forward two steps back favorite of any would be totalitarian

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

‘Kicking’ certainly ought to be involved in the resolution of this sh*t show – but – the illegal mandates are hardly the real target when other juicy fat ones are available!

RTSC
RTSC
4 years ago

So the line is they’re going to allow these brave NHS personnel 6 months to have all 3 jabs, when they’ve made it perfectly clear they’re not going to have 2.

Kick that can …..

Adrian25
4 years ago

It’s going to be very interesting in another 12 months if someone does a serious study on the rates of sickness among NHS employees between the jabbed and the unjabbed.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  Adrian25

That’s a good point. Is there any evidence that the unjabbed have a higher sickness rate than the jabbed?

Where I work- not a medical place- one member of staff claims he had covid in December 2020 (though he had no respiratory symptoms at all), he then had 2 jabs plus the booster during 2021. After each jab he had to take time off work because he felt ill, he has also had time off with other things practically every month for the last 5 months.

Another relative of mine has been triple jabbed but regrets it; prior to being jabbed, she rarely had colds, since having the booster, she has had 2 severe colds (the type that put you in bed); and admits she doesn’t feel completely “right”.

I think the jabbed are more of a risk than the unjabbed, but who’s going to admit that?

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Adrian25

Even better would be a study into the numbers of CV recovered who were unjabbed prior to infection vs jabbed who then got CV or suffered the effects of the jab which were deemed CV..

Watney
Watney
4 years ago

It seems everyone has forgotten these “vaccines” are only available under Emergency Use Authorisation. They’re not fully authorised, yet it’s deemed reasonable to mandate them for these staff.
I saw a video to staff at my local hospital where it was obvious the Chief Executive was simply carrying out orders. Orders he said he’d only just got the week before. Fairly unsympathetic. Just wanted to persuade.
It’s not just front line as staff will always be passing patients although there was discussion whether those in an admin building some distance from the main building might not be subject.
I took a look at the Unite union website where there’s a luke warm PDF of advice with delaying tactics for individual dismissals but no sign of opposition.
if the programme gets delayed, that’s good, but it probably just means a change of tack.

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago
Reply to  Watney

Yes exactly, I wonder what people will do when we reach a point where there are no jabs. The companies could easily decide not to continue developing/producing them, or proof could (somehow) emerge that there is a better alternative regime, which would invalidate EUA. The believers really can’t wrap their heads around that one.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Watney

They are currently working hard to rig the authorisation – just watch!

Fauci will be on overtime! He wants the small children now,

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

This is exactly what I said they would do. For two guys who appear not to get on Johnson seems to ape Macron a lot. They will make everyone in the NHS and wider get treble jabbed, which means they have to extend the deadline. It puts off redundancies and gives Johnson a breathing space to satisfy the backbenchers. But it stops nothing, the mandate is extended not removed.

Watney
Watney
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Agreed, Mr Toad is in a hole so he will apply delaying tactics, but that gives us time to change the narrative.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

And meanwhile adverse vaxxine effects will continue to rise. We are sitting on a time bomb and they will not be able to hide the statistcs any longer.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

All “international conflict” is just pure theatre to fuel or protect the narrative !

JeremyP99
4 years ago

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1984/22/contents

“Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 (c. 22) Part 2A – Public Health Protection Document Generated: 2021-11-07 15 Changes to legislation: Public Health (Control of Disease) Act 1984 is up to date with all changes known to be in force on or before 07 November 2021. There are changes that may be brought into force at a future date. Changes that have been made appear in the content and are referenced with annotations. (See end of Document for details) View outstanding changes Introductory 45A Infection or contamination (1) The following provisions have effect for the interpretation of this Part.”

“45E Medical treatment (1) Regulations under section 45B or 45C may not include provision requiring a person to undergo medical treatment. (2) “ Medical treatment ” includes vaccination and other prophylactic treatment”

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

“Delayed”.simply not good enough- scrapped permanently from today will do.

Then we need the Crimes Against Humanity investigation to proceed against named individuals in support of the Metropolitan Police investigation..

They are playing games with us hoping the crowds and the crimes will just ‘go away’ and they can carry on just as before with their ‘project’

Smelly Melly
4 years ago

6 months more for the “unvaccinated” to go out and get a better job and if the NHS want you back demand more money.

I’m sure there are jobs in the private health sector that won’t demand the clot shot.

Smelly Melly
4 years ago

In 6 months time there will be 4 or 5 “booster” shots required. Even if they wanted to, wouldn’t it be a bit like trying to catch something thats ever moving out of your reach?