U.K. Government Has “Abandoned the Science”, says Wales First Minister – as He Sets Course For ‘Alert Level Zero’ Which Keeps Masks and Vaccine Passports

The U.K. Government is more interested in distracting people from its issues than Covid and has “long abandoned any sense of following the science”, First Minister Mark Drakeford has said, as he confirmed further easing of rules in Wales. The BBC has more.

Mr Drakeford told BBC Breakfast: “We’ve always taken a different approach in Wales, one that does things step-by-step in line with the science.

“We’re a Government that doesn’t need to grab headlines to distract attention from the difficulties that we would be in if we were in the same position as the Government in England.”

Wales is currently in a three-week process of removing most of its Covid rules, with fans now allowed to return to sports stadiums and pubs and restaurants allowed to operate outdoors without the rule of six or social distancing.

But even when Wales reaches alert level zero, some measures will remain, such as face masks in shops and hospitality venues, Covid passes for nightclubs and large events and self-isolation rules.

In England, however, all Plan B measures will end on Thursday, including mandatory face masks and Covid passes.

Referring to the No 10 parties scandal, Mr Drakeford added: “I don’t think there’s any doubt at all that the U.K. Government has long abandoned any sense that it is following the science. It is a Government desperately in difficulties of its own making and is forever on the lookout for a headline which will distract people’s attention from the awful mess that it finds itself in.”

Welsh Secretary Simon Hart said: “The First Minister’s comments are an uncalled for and opportunistic insult towards medical advisers and the public.”

Russell George, the Conservative MS for Monmouthshire, asked why, if Mr. Drakeford is “so confident that he’s getting things right in Wales”, he is “running away from a Wales-specific public inquiry”, noting that: “We’ve got the worse Covid death rates of any of the U.K. nations.”

The fact that ‘Alert Level Zero’ in Wales still involves the Plan B measures – vaccine passports and mask mandate – that England is now lifting, plus the Plan A measure of self-isolation that Boris has signalled he will shortly repeal, tells you everything you need to know about Mark Drakeford’s idea of ‘The Science’. Does he ever intend to remove these measures? If so he hasn’t said – and he’ll clearly need to think up a new name for his alert levels when he does.

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CynicalRealist
4 years ago

Mr Drakeford told BBC Breakfast: “We’ve always taken a different approach in Wales, one that does things step-by-step in line with the science.

How about providing the evidence (not fictional modelling) that face nappies and vaxpasses actually reduce cases, then?

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

This is the world we live in now, one in which a senior official can just talk complete and utter shite, that is demonstrably complete and utter shite, claim it’s all fact and the lemmings around him just nod in agreement.

GroundhogDayAgain
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

A public takedown of this nonsense.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOM9jWijuH8

TheEngineer
TheEngineer
4 years ago

Excellent; one might also consider the UN targets for a massive reduction in world population as a driver for government policy. Johnson is surely under the influence, even control, of such organisations. We see the same issue in the Great Global Warming Scam…

Corky Ringspot
4 years ago

Brilliant. I’m a bit confused by Steve Baker’s continuing use of face-nappies – and it’s also odd that Mr Seely has only just woken up to the full absurdity of “Professor” Ferguson’s dreadful record – but at least he’s finally done so. Heads MUST roll.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Corky Ringspot

And who is going to make sure they do roll?

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Absolute and utter madness. It is as if in his mind Wales is some kind of “island” and that people cannot simply drive over the border, completely unmonitored, to go to the pub without a vaccine passport, or walk about without a mask.

SimCS
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

He can’t. There isn’t any. It’s fiction as you say.

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
4 years ago

These people have never involved themselves in a risky situation their lives. You can see that from their faces. I have no idea why the Welsh voted for such a coont. If you really believe that the prolongation of this situation will lead to a left wing realignment then you live in illusion. You thought that the suicide during the last two years was bad: just wait for the next six months. Mommy mommy you’re poisoning me with your tit. Shut up and drink it you filthy little tyke.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

These people have never involved themselves in a risky situation their lives.

Very few figures in central or local government have. The only recent one I can think of in London is David Davis.

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

The best PM we never had.

lorrinet
lorrinet
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Indeed. When Cameron was shoed into the leadership I wrote to Mr Davis, asking him to consider challenging the result. He very graciously wrote back and said he believed that Cameron must be given his chance.

Well,we all know how that turned out. He had to have his very own war and cause the deaths of x numbers of souls, had to compete with his hero Bliar.

Squire Western
Squire Western
4 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

He is not coont, whatever that may be, he is a cυnt.

Victory Gin
4 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

I have no idea why the Welsh voted for such a coont.

The frustrating thing is that they’ll probably vote for him a again.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

Only in South Wales where they like his handouts.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

The welsh would vote for a sausage with a hat on if it was from the Labour party

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

”…..never involved themselves in a risky situation…”

Well, he’s not exactly an alpha male, is he?

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago

Drakeford is as big a w*nker as he looks!

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

He looks as if it has been a while since he found it for the last time. 🙂

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Yep; looking at the photo above I do wonder if even his mother could love a face like that. All in the spirit of scientific wonderment you understand!

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

I’m sure he’s quite intelligent – but he hides it well !

Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
4 years ago

Drakeford has abandoned his brain if he ever had one to start.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  Jabba the Hut

His brain, having some intelligence, has long since absconded from its slimy host.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago

Mr Drakeford – the only thing you’re following is the road to Hell.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

Only he doesn’t intend to follow it himself – he’s just showing others the way, while he runs in the opposite direction, only stopping at his bank on the way.

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago

There’s hardly any difference in measures between the two countries, what is he on about?

Is no one in Wales going to ask him when, if ever, will the masks go?

Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

No because they’re to stupid, well that is according Mr Drakeford.

artfelix
4 years ago
Reply to  Jabba the Hut

Speaking as someone who grew up in Wales, he’s right

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

It seems that people in Wales think it’s all good, which makes you wonder what perverse psychological need is being fulfilled that Welsh people feel the need to suffer more than the English for no benefit of any kind.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Religious cults work in the same way.

Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
4 years ago

How about using Covid to distract attention away from how shit the NHS is run in Wales.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Do the Welsh still practice archery?

tom171uk
4 years ago

What a twerp! Following “the science”? Give me strength.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

He’s so trendy. “Agile” Mark the “disrupter”.

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X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

Don’t you know, it’s all the rage nowadays?

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Mark Drakeford is a two-bit lowlife. It’s in his genes. Shame on Wales for having this cretin lead it.

Mark Drakeford’s son, Jonathon, was sentenced to more than eight and a half years behind bars in 2018 for a brutal rape and assault on a young lady.

Jonathan Drakeford tortured his victim:

“Humiliated his victim by forcing her to stand in a corner gagged with her own underwear.”

Our characters are writ large upon our faces; for those that can instinctively read other people’s countenances, Mark Drakeford’s has his son’s low-intelligence and thuggish character written all over it.

The apple didn’t fall far from the tree in this family.

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Remarkably similar to standing a nation in a corner with their faces covered.

Waking people up to this is like waking the dead.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Drakeford! “The Face of Today’s Wales” – there is the tragedy!

John Dee
4 years ago

I wonder if voters in Wales are experiencing ‘buyer’s remorse’ yet?

Ron Smith
Ron Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I’m in Wales but didn’t vote this cunt in, They’re dragging the rest of us to hell!

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Ditto

Teddy Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

I’m in Wales also in fact probably the most Brainwashed community Caldicot I have come across.I get the rare Nursing shift in the Rhondda which is better.As for Wankford the cunt needs milking!!

hellsbells
hellsbells
4 years ago
Reply to  Ron Smith

Nor did I. ABL has made me feel quite sick. We know the likelihood is that come the next election, Labour or Plaid will have the majority. I can’t say I fancy any of the others either but my grandmother told me I must use my vote…

lorrinet
lorrinet
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

None of my Welsh relatives voted for him. They all detest him. None of them voted for the Welsh assembly either. It was probably the valleys mostly, they say, because socialism is so well-entrenched there. My surprise was their support for Brexit.

RW
RW
4 years ago

Could someone perhaps tell me what business the head of a devolved administration has regarding the health policy of another (de facto) devolved administration? I think none. If Drakeford thinks the English policy is wrong, then, he’s free to choose a different one for his fiefdom and not try to sabotage it because he fears it might be right and but still wants to do things differently in Wales.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Easily explained

He’s raving

artfelix
4 years ago

An over-promoted parish councillor in charge of an insignificant region masquerading as a country.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

Yep! Devolution – a total disaster for Wales – who could ever have guessed?

sophie123
4 years ago

what a bell end

Spirit of the wind
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

You’re being to kind, he’s an evil little nobody.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Succinctly put!

Spirit of the wind
4 years ago

He’s afraid the removal of the extreme measures in England he pushes in Wales will make him look the complete utter fool he his.
Imagine being Welsh or Scottish then seeing the difference in England.
It’s the same reason the former DDR shot people who tried to jump the wall.
It could end his career, with a bit of luck.
Imagine voting for that sack of manure with a bit of string tied around the middle?
A question many will be asking themselves now.

John
4 years ago
jeepybee
4 years ago

As a Welsh lad, this droopy shit isn’t who I voted for. I’ve written to three MPs, all of them respond with similar copy-and-paste shit, usually patronising, speaking about “following the science”. Shit birds, the lot of them. I’m fairly happy to report that most of the valley towns couldn’t give a toss what the “diverse” capital wants us to do.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  jeepybee

Good. Rebel, become ungovernable, spit in his face.

TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

That would be incredibly unhygienic and would likely spread whatever new variant they are dreaming up at the moment

😉

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  TSull

They have one…..

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  jeepybee

Don’t accept the cut and paste crap. Write back to them demanding answers from them personally. You voted for them, not a cut and past devolved administration.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Had a cut n paste yesterday from my useless MP. I immediately replied thanking him for his time spent pasting an email!

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago

Taffy has forever had a chip about being oppressed by the wicked English. Now that they have their own home-grown dictator, I hope they’re content. I begrudge every penny of my English money that props up a picturesque country, now run by halfwits like this.

jeepybee
4 years ago

I would be offended, but you’re pretty much spot on. We’re a country of culture-chasing, diversity quota chumps. A bit like Londonistan really…

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  jeepybee

I’m an ex pat Jock living in England and resent having to prop up a tyrant in Scotland I would never have voted for.

If the English are paying, they should be voting!

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago

Drakeford’s comments are the shortest suicide note in political history.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

….sez you, and hopes I.

RedhotScot
4 years ago

Wishful thinking. 15 years of SNP, and counting.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

Surely he is already dead? But then…how can they tell?

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
4 years ago

I think people are too pessimistic in terms of what happens next. Especially if you look at Austria and Germany etc. We need to be more confident the whole discussion is going to change very soon and then they will attempt to hide. They didn’t give us any foxholes or places of respite and we won’t either. We don’t allow our population or our young people to be fucked with. This will be unlike injustices in the past. When all of this gets out I can’t imagine the reaction.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Liberal leftists hijacked science long ago, what they practice now is akin to voodoo, at best it’s subjective emotive applied science which is a much different beast to “science”.

Science does NOT justify taking away my freedom or bodily autonomy.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Keep digging that rabbit hole

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

I suspect that some people do not understand politics in Wales

Wales is a welfare state. Huge swathes of the population are on benefits especially in the post industrial valleys. Are you going to vote for someone who is going to stop the free beer and takeaways?

The majority of those who are in work are employed by the government in the NHS, councils etc. These heavily unionised workforces vote Labour

Huge numbers are employed in the Third Sector quangos where high paid jobs are doled out to Labour Party members using government money.

The corruption is off the scale

At the last Assembly elections the majority of the electorate did not vote

Labour were elected by 17% of the available electorate

Every covid rule introduced or maintained by Drakeford plays to his supporters

It is in Labours interests to keep Wales as a failed State.

There is literally no hope of any change for the better in Wales

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

You present the case for Scotland as well, very well.

15 years of the SNP and not a single major industry attracted there despite cheap land and deepwater ports.

Amazon warehouses and call centres do fairly well though.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Interesting on the turnout for the Welsh assembly. Turnout is low for the Scottish one too. Many in both Wales and Scotland recognise a bunch of local government scum with their noses in the trough and (as has already been pointed out) massive chips on their shoulder. Then again, the same can be said about the London government. It’s on a larger scale, that’s all. Look at the hoohah about the government contract given to “Dominic Cummings’s friends” at the PR firm “Public First”. Apparently it was justified because there was a need for speed.

That’s like saying “Get out of our way, would you? There’s a crisis this evening and we’re in a rush. That’s why we’re taking the government’s gold into private hands. Do you want us to shut down the NHS or what?”

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

And let’s not forget the Welsh government’s plans to pilot universal basic income. Claus will be so pleased.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Spot on summary.
And the rest of Wales suffer.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

In most local elections, all over the UK, the majority do not vote. It’s only in Parliamentary generals when it’s the other way round. In lots of Parish Councils (in England – ‘Community Councils’ are the Welsh equivalent) there are often no competitive elections at all, if there are not enough candidates to cause them. Of course, certain parties manipulate this a bit, by managing the number of candidates for some Council elections.

And look what’s happening in certain parts of the world where they have compulsory voting; not a good idea.

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
4 years ago

I don’t mind hiding some Welsh **** in my cellar as long as he proves his mettle.I will provide food and shelter and warmth just make it clear to me that you oppose these bastards forever.

jeepybee
4 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

Hahaha. Thanks for the offer, but this Welsh **** would sooner stove in a few skulls than go hide. I’m sure the Scots will come to your cellar though?

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  jeepybee

Sorry. No.

jeepybee
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Well, there you have it, Jabby! You get to keep your cellar for other things.

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

Drakefuck follows the science that Bill Gates pays for.

RedhotScot
4 years ago

Drakeford is a Teetotaller I believe. Like all zealots he’s desperate to impose his evangelical beliefs on everyone else.

Make no mistake, much of his zeal is directed at stopping hard working Welshmen enjoying a beer and being as miserable as him.

Sturgeon has the same approach, but only because we Jocks drink to get over the depression of being governed by a lesbian with a chip on her shoulder. (BTW I live in England like any self respecting sweaty).

For all Westminster’s faults, at least Boris clearly enjoys a booze up and doesn’t condemn anyone else for the same.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Correct. He should declare his interests whenever he does things that make the trade go bust.

Star
4 years ago

Mark Drakeford: “It is a Government desperately in difficulties of its own making and is forever on the lookout for a headline which will distract people’s attention from the awful mess that it finds itself in.” Well tell us something new, Mark. So you read the newspapers this morning. What a big boy you are. Such utterly banal “criticism” of the government based on what the media have been told to print – organs such as the Times newspaper – is the kind that comes from “opponents” of the government who are so obedient that the government hardly needs any friends. Has any newspaper even dared make the point that in ANY political party if you wire yourself up when you meet the party whips and then you publicly release the tape YOU WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY LOSE THE PARTY WHIP? You would have thought that was an obvious point to make. Which is NOT to say that it should be assumed that that’s how the audiofile got made. Quite the contrary. There is a very substantial chance it was made by a “third party”. Here’s a free tip to Keir Starmer: HIT THE GOVERNMENT ON NATIONAL SECURITY. Call Johnson a… Read more »

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Sorry, but we need to wake up to understand that Xi isn’t bad, and Putin isn’t bad, but that it’s the utterly incompetent WOKE west that’s failing and all Xi and Putin are doing is walking into our world through an open door.

Jabby Mcstiff
Jabby Mcstiff
4 years ago

We in England need to help the bastards out. If you live in Shropshire for example. Because yes a lot of Welshmen are indeed fucktards but a lot aren’t and we need to rescue the good ones. I have met a long list of intelligent Welsh folk and we can’t allow this to happen to them especially when they are on our doorstep.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  Jabby Mcstiff

Yes, welcome here as refugees. No need to swim. Walk across the border of the land once ruled by princes, now lectured by a geography teacher.

Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  court

Thanks for posting that, c: I’ll send that to ex-colleagues that I know are unjabbed. One of the annoying things about this story is the impression given by the MSM and other is that this ‘mandatory jab rule’ is only for front facing staff; it’s not true, as I posted the other day: “This is what an ex-colleague has been told re. the mandatory vaccines for NHS staff by their HR dept:“On 6 January, the amendments to the Health and Social Care Act 2008 (Regulated Activities) Regulations 2014 came into effect; it is now the law that staff, workers, contractors, volunteers, apprentices and students over 18 who have direct or indirect contact with patients must be double vaccinated for COVID-19 as a condition of deployment, from Friday 1 April.Due to the eight-week gap between doses, to achieve this, staff who have not had their vaccination must have received their first dose of the vaccine by 3 February 2022. You can find that information and answers to any questions you may have here. (link removed by me)Line managers are now arranging to meet informally with staff who are covered by the regulations but whose vaccination status we don’t know. This meeting… Read more »

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  court

Bunch or sewer-dwelling chancers.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  court

Pressure on the PM and Health Secretary to halt the mandatory jabs programme has intensified in the past week amid new internal Whitehall documents suggesting two jabs would not be enough to cope with the Omicron variant.

For fuck’s sake! So it’s vital that people are unwillingly coerced into being spiked at least three times with experimental gunk in order to (maybe) reduce the chances of them getting seriously ill with a cold which wouldn’t make them seriously ill anyway, even if they weren’t spiked at all? Oh, and they could still spread the cold anyway, even if multi-spiked.

Have I got that right? It’s getting mroe surreal by the week!