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aiden
aiden
4 years ago

Peterson needs to pipe down. It’s too little and too late. His whole brand has been about resisting totalitarianism. But when the actual fascists turned up 2 years ago and started working people up, he didn’t have anything to say but “get vaccinated folks”.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  aiden

No, no. He never said such a thing. You must be mistaken!

:/

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  aiden

Everyone has their price.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

How can that be downvoted? It is there in black and white for all who had forgotten this! Rod Liddle is another swing-voter on vaxes etc!

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Hint: “Everyone has their price” is also there in black and white.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I can think of few people less likely to be ‘bought’ than Jordan Peterson.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Neither a downvoter nor a worrier about downvotes be.

There’s a bit of a question here. I believe in redemption. Gotta allow one’s opponents to recover and see the light, even if it leaves a bad taste in the mouth to say so. We all CAN learn from our mistakes if we really want to. On the other hand, journalists…pah! When Rod Liddle writes “we were mad to have gone along with it all” I simply don’t believe him. Next time, when it’s done with a slightly different angle, and quite possibly 10 or 100 times stronger, he’ll be backing it again.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Yes, the main concern is what they’ll do next time.

Like you, I can see both sides on these cases. It’s a matter of judgement as to which should predominate in each individual case, and that has a strong tendency to be rather subjective.

But the facts of what people said and did remain.

The Rule of Pricks
The Rule of Pricks
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Lets be a little generous here – everyone has their own personal reasons for having or not having the vaxx, which is how it should be (and those reasons should be kept personal). There is no absolute that no-one should have it the same as everyone should have it.

Dont forget Petersen had 2 years of chronic ill-health that nearly killed him (and for which he was ridiculed by the intolerant left) so it may well be that for him catching it was way more risky than the vaxx.

Nobody knows but him whether having it was justifiable or not – it doesnt make him a traitor to the cause if he has.

The same with Ron Liddle – though he hasnt any health problems publicly lauded by his ‘enemies’ like Petersen. Being a fat smoker probably had some influence though.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  aiden

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karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  aiden

Jordan Peterson needs to pipe up more. What happened to freedom of choice even about vaccines which is not among his many areas of expertise? His body, his choice, despite him undergoing a psychological trauma of his own about the time of the arrival of Covid. The Roundup article linked today again demonstrates that Jordan Peterson is one of the leading independent thinkers of our age. Did you read it? Happily he has created his own audience that now reaches well beyond the academia that he has rightly come to despise and which can only be saved by completely eating itself into the ground which it is doing before our eyes, yesterday’s Roundup featured two old Oxford(?) Gammons yelling ‘racist’ at each other, even though they are probably not, in an attempt to appease wokery. Pathetic. I first came across Dr.Peterson through his series of lectures relating Old Testament Biblical themes to the universal human condition (lapsed C of E myself so I could remember much of the background material). I am far from his supposed main audience (single young white males who have been brainwashed into thinking they are evil failures by that same academia and who need to… Read more »

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X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Thumbs up from me.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Thank you. That 30 minute video is well worth watching in full. Just listening is equally rewarding since it’s a monologue to camera.

Sorry, I can’t do links using this Android but searching YouTube is easy enough.

Vir Cotto
4 years ago
Reply to  aiden

Peterson was in rehab when covid hit. For much of 2020 he was trying to stay alive – barely aware of the goings on around him. I think he can be forgiven for being a few steps behind the rest of us. If you listen to his recent content, you can clearly see he now is resisting.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Vir Cotto

Yes, I think he should be forgiven his early weak-mindedness in view of his medical state at the time. He did bounce back pretty well later on:

Here’s the deal, I’ll get the vaccine, you fucking leave me alone. And did that work? No! So, stupid me!

Peterson very much not stupid generally, but yes, as he admits: “stupid me” on this occasion.

Covid panickers and “vaccine” accepters are functionally stupid, whatever their overall intelligence levels are, because they believe stuff that they should know better than to believe, such as “just take the “vaccine” and then they’ll leave us alone”.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I got vax 1&2 because it appeared at one point that users of hospital transport providers would be compelled to do so as the drivers already were (taxis in my city from January 2021 via taxi licensing regulations, not Covid law). I regarded the risk of vaccines at a personal level to be minor compared to being forced to take them once 6 months of treatment for a real and present serious condition had already begun. I was going to be using such transport dozens of times from June 2021 onwards for hospital procedures whose side effects could include severe nausea, confusion and fatigue and wanted to get vax out of the way before those side effects happened possibly the same time vaxing for passengers became compulsory. Chatting with my Consultant prior to that decision he agreed but with this telling proviso. “The government advice is that everyone should take the vaccine but, at the end of the day, it is your decision” I didn’t ask if he had been vaxxed himself. As it happens I only experienced minor side effects from my ongoing treatment and none at all from the vaccines but I still won’t be getting booster until… Read more »

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Fair enough!

When ‘Vaxx Passes’ (or Covid papers of any kind) are not required for travel, only then will I believe that ‘backpeddling’ has happened.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

“. . .appearsto be . . .”

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

True, and same here, but see my response below.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Vir Cotto

Thanks, I couldn’t recall the exact timing but knew it was roughly the same.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Vir Cotto

No – he is supposed to be a deep thinker. How on Earth could he be fooled as he clearly was!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Might be difficult to be a deep thinker while being treated and recuperating in a Russian psychiatric hospital 😱🤯

Why Russia? Who knows.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  aiden

A penitent ‘sinner’ is always welcome. They, like ex smokers, make the fiercest critics.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  aiden

Well, I for one, have a lot of time/respect for Jordan Peterson.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago

There’s one thing which makes me think the people directing all this horror are really quite nerdy/stupid/naive (along with their minions in positions of “power” over us): They seem to still, to this day, believe that the “unvaccinated” need to be chased and denounced. Don’t they understand that the “unvaccinated” are even less likely to succumb than a year ago? I don’t believe that it’s a strategy to keep the sheep terrified and compliant by making an example of the “unvaccinated” (apart from China, Australasia, plus ca change) as it is not what motivated most of the sheep to get jabbed in the first place. TPTB view humans as a system; they simply cannot comprehend that there may be elements of their “system” which can’t be led – and don’t want to be led. They try to attack us like a bug in a computer program, or a dirty stain on a carpet, or the ants in their chocolate cupboard in summer. Meanwhile, we keep the true meaning of the word ‘anarchy’ alive: ‘an’ – without ‘archon’ – leader, ruler See? Anarchists have nothing to do with Molotov and his cocktails, and we certainly don’t read The Anarchist’s Cookbook! We… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago

That was very refreshingly optimistic, thank you. If forced to label myself I am generally happy with ‘conservative anarchist’ which some find confusing but which actually speaks for itself. Through good fortune and happenstance I was able to completely ignore the first 12 months of Lockdown One, Lite, Tiers and “Second Wave” winter 20-21 panicorola. This was largely because as an ‘out and about’ self employed (hours to suit) ‘key worker’ I was able to engage in numerous conversations every day with people who were equally of sceptical opinion (if only by virtue of likewise not hiding indoors) or could tell me of the realities of life on the Covid/Lockdown frontline. Equally I had long since given up on evening socialising so the closure of pubs and restaurants meant nothing to me (although I did miss cafe breakfasts). For many months of 2020 it seemed clear to me that “this” could not go on for very long such was the level of doubt expressed by the people I spoke to every day and the widespread casual indifference to Lockdown/Social Distancing even at the height of Lockdown One; surely an accurate measure of the public’s anarchic (leaderless as you say) contempt… Read more »

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

“I allowed myself the first two vaccines for reasons of my own convenience and because any risks were far outweighed by the reality of the condition previously mentioned.”

You don’t explain what your ‘medical condition’ is, nor why “risks were far outweighed by the reality of the condition”.

 “self employed (hours to suit) ‘key worker’ ” – are you going to keep us guessing?

John
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

You don’t explain what your ‘medical condition’ is”, do you not see the irony in this statement? The reason that people are opposed to revealing their vaccination status is because they consider it to be private medical information, yet here you’re effectively asking a similar question. Why is it important to you why a person has had an inoculation or why they have not?
It is none of anyones business what an individual’s health status is, that is between that person and healthcare professionals as required.


Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Kerenovirus seems to like mentioning her ‘medical condition’. She has already revealed she’s had the first two ‘Covid vaccines’, and doesn’t want the third. She has been going on and on about her stay in hospital for many posts, so not exactly ‘shy’ about her medical details.

“Why is it important to you why a person has had an inoculation or why they have not?” – curiosity, I suppose. If she hadn’t gone on about it, I would have been none the wiser and I doubt I would have asked.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Not my downtick btw.

I talk about my ‘medical condition’ because it provides an insider view of what is actually occurring within the NHS, not as bad as many think according to my experience, which some readers here and elswhere find of interest.

I don’t merely ‘reveal’ taking vax 1& 2 but use it in response to posters such as Mark above (for whose postings I have the greatest respect) who assume that anyone who gets vaxxed is either stupidly scared of Covid, is a mindless sheep or otherwise addled brained.

The points you raise EF are perfectly valid but I do call you out for

“Gender Assumptivenes”

It’s Karenovirus (Mr.), if you please.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I already guessed you are a Mr. Don’t ask me how, it’s an analog thing.

I also see many parts of the NHS functioning quite normally, I think this has a lot to do with the fact that – although staff shortage is a bigger thing than it always was – most of the usual “clientele” of the NHS (certainly if I take Leeds as an example) are no longer anywhere near the NHS – they’re at home on the sofa.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Being at home on the sofa is where many people should be until things sort themselves out in the usual way instead of cluttering up the NHS with their petty ailments.

thefoostybadger
thefoostybadger
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

@karenovirous has explained all this numerous times. Not that it’s any of your buisiness to question anyway.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Not my downtick btw.

Reasons of my own convenience“. See my slightly later response to Mark, above.

the precise nature of my medical condition” is of no relevance to my general point about the possibility of experiencing twin side effects of treatment/vaccine simultaneously except to repeat that it has nothing whatever to do with Covid and would have occured in any event.

I left hospital on an ‘end of life Protocol’ although that has since been repealed, partly as a result of treatment received.

are you going to keep us guessing?”
Yes.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Karenovirus is permitted to give us as much or as little information as Karenovirus chooses to give us. This is a public forum. If I wrote everything about myself and what I have done then I believe Toby Young and the Webmasters and DBAs of this glorious website would probably have been forced to reveal my identity to the authorities 😉 (PS, Toby, et al, if you’re reading this, that’s a JOKE)

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

‘Anarchists’ will still have to show their ‘Covid’ papers at the airport – no exceptions.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Of course because as I said 2 years ago this manufactured crisis had its roots in the Green Agenda, ergo controlling travel, so whilst most people are breathing a sigh of relief that restrictions are being lifted, those for freedom of travel remain in place.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Covid “papers” aren’t an issue if you think a bit. Can’t say more than that.

As for the covid “pass” or app or whatever it is, I was asked once and just ignored them and carried on walking – and nary a fairy tried to stop me.

It’s ALL an enormous charade. It’s working with most because they believe the people in charge are benevolent and competent and that it will all get “straightened out in time”.

Alexander Solzhenitsyn had a lot to say about times like these.

karenovirus
4 years ago

“They lie . . .they know we know they lie. . . yet still they lie” (abridged).

I’ve had digital vaxpass (domestic) for 6 months, never once been asked for it.
During Lockdown Lite (last summer) two chain gastropubs insisted “No QR Code, no entry”. Refused pen and paper ID which was equally valid under the regs at the time.

Never went back since, never will.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

“… yet still they lie – and we pretend to believe them.”

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I have no intention of travelling abroad ever again, my Passport last expired about 8 years ago so, once again, their regulations have no effect on me.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Your choice, but my family and I have had no problems with travelling all over Europe over the last two years; not “vaccinated”, no sticks up noses or up anywhere else.

MrkMtchll
MrkMtchll
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

not 100% true: it depends on one’s destination.

Bella Donna
4 years ago

The unvaxxed are healthier because their immune systems haven’t been harmed.

waterbear
4 years ago

A very minor quibble, but please note when an article you reference, for example at the telegraph.co.uk, is behind a paywall.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  waterbear

That doesn’t bother them. I noted 8 Telegraph articles ( they’re obv big fans ) and 3 or 4 from elsewhere, all behind pay walls the other day. About as much use as a chocolate fire guard! Somebody did share this site; 12ft.io. It does remove some some pay walls.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Can’t blame DS if the Tel. contains the bulk of sceptical articles. It just shows what useless scumbags run the other papers.
Maybe DS readers should be offered a joint subscription!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I have been resisting subscribing to the Telegraph website such was their dismal surrender to government advertising propaganda.
But, as you say, they do currently seem to be the lead source for Sceptic articles so perhaps I should think again.

I used to enjoy reading the print edition (before they went Covid Mental) as a comfort blanket during idle moments and over cafe breakfast or solitary lunch.
Gave up reading newspapers indoors when the internet arrived but I think the habit of reading print copies at all has now completely fallen by the wayside.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I did the same last Sunday, responding to all 9 Telegraph paywall articles out of 15 on the Roundup but see my reply to Annie below.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Great!

Encierro
4 years ago
Reply to  waterbear

There are ways to get around paywalls, search for the answer.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

Best way is for some kind soul to put in a link from archive.com (? or somesuch) in the comments although Toby disapproves of this because it is stealing food from the mouths of his fellow journalists.

Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago
Reply to  waterbear

I am not a subscriber (I used to be) but I have a log-in and most of the time I get unfettered access.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Jordan Peterson says about Canadian universities: “ … [T]here simply is not enough qualified BIPOC people in the pipeline to meet diversity targets …”   In Canada, the universities solved this problem of a dearth of qualified people by taking in unqualified people.   These unqualified people then give rise to another problem for Canadian universities. Which was/is, they didn’t/don’t stretch cerebrally-wise to successfully completing and graduating from regular old-fashioned university courses.   In Canada, the universities solved this problem by creating new disciplines of study, which the diversity-filling-quota students can be said to be able to stretch to. Jordan Peterson explains: “And we’ve seen what that means already in the horrible grievance studies disciplines. These combined with the death of objective testing, has compromised the universities so badly that it can hardly be overstated.”   We’ve all had a belly-full of the “fact-checkers”, and the immoral and unintelligent dross that pass for journalists in the MSM. To say nothing of the crop of sociopathic and emotionally unstable politicians that are now to be found across the Western world.   A country’s culture is about a decade behind whatever current culture is being promulgated in its universities. The current lot… Read more »

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Maybe successful “diversity” graduates prefer to work in the real world rather than the petty, narrow, oppressive halls of modern academe. I know quite a few talented people who fit this description.

Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

We are already under the dreadful impacts as illustrated by the proliferance of incompetent ‘minorities’ (I include females in this, though not a minority, as they fill a quota) in job appointments where they are clearly out of their depth/unsuitable, but have been appointed solely because of this pernicious agenda.

Probably unsackable, too.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Victor Davis Hanson makes a similar point about California where, despite having something like 7 of the world’s top 10 universities, over 50% of new students need to take 12 months or more remedial classes before starting undergraduate studies because they throw open their doors to all and sundry in their desperation for inclusivity and diversity.

The University authorities got rid of this embarrassing statistic by cancelling the word ‘remedial’ and calling it something else.

Within those institutions there must surely exist an unofficial apartheid because everyone will know who are the genuinely smart students and who are there just to fill the targets.

Jordan Petersons article is remarkable for his description of the depths of academic corruption along these lines.

But it can’t last forever. I recently read a YouTube comment relating to inclusivity within the US Army. It was from a Russian who said something like

“We will do battle with Gary who is now Martha whining to get home to her two moms”

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

It will soon be time to start organising the trials.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

At least there will be no shortage of evidence. THEY will be condemned not only by their foul deeds, but by every word that proceeds out of their foul mouths.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Document shredders and incinerators
will be of no use to them since most of their crimes are recorded on the internet.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Apropos it being a quiet day for news. Local Live Online (Mirror Group News) third lead News item today “Controversial city road in spotlight amid name change plan.” (‘Controvery’ amounts to a complaint by one person that Blackboy Road is racist and offensive). ‘The City Council has confirmed that there are no eminent plans to change the name’ (so that’s the plan? Never mind the wording). “It is nearly two years since rival petitions were launched concerning its future but neither were presented to the City Council who have confirmed that no formal discussions have been had about changing the road name”. (‘in the spotlight’ ? Nothing has changed in two years despite the article headline). “The petitions were signed by 2,900 and 2,500 people meaning opinion was closely divided between both options” (is that even English?) (And finally) “when the original petition was launched by Tom he stated ‘I think the fact that it hasn’t been changed already is ignorant and offensive so having just moved to the area I want to see it changed”. Smacks of “Londoner retires to village; complains about cockcrow and church bell noises” and its still a two year old none story to fill… Read more »

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

There is a difference between eminent and imminent. There is evidently no difference between a city councillor and a grovelling, ignorant fool.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

In this case the city Councilors appear to be innocent. They haven’t even discussed it.

Encierro
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The Black Boy Pub near Reading changed it’s name due to “local” pressure.
Oddly the roundabout near by has not.
Comments in the local Mirror Group newspaper suggested the owner my change the name but it will still be known locally as The Black Boy.

DS99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

What about Whiteladies road in Bristol?

Stixcraven
Stixcraven
4 years ago

The Devi Shrillda article is suggests it’s science wot has saved us all and her version of living with Covid is masks, tests and jabs forever. I wish she would go away.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago
Reply to  Stixcraven

I don’t know whether, in her new residence of Scotland, she prefers “petticoat tails” or “Rich Dundee”, but she sure as heck knows how to have her cake and eat it. It is The Grauniad, and therefore to be expected, but I haven’t read such a pernicious and dishonest piece in that rag for at least 3 days.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago

Shridar just warranted a mention on the Mike Graham TalkRadio show, interview with Brendan o’Neill of Spiked, as being “two-faced”. Bingo!

Phil Shannon
4 years ago

ITEM: “WA Premier Mark McGowan says reopening state’s border now would be ‘reckless and irresponsible’” – Western Australia Premier Mark McGowan has announced the plan to reopen WA’s border to quarantine-free travel on February 5th has been delayed to “prevent a flood” of Omicron cases across the state, ABC reports. Ah, the old, medically-illiterate garbage metric of ‘case numbers’, again, recited robotically by McClown as advised by his Chief Health Moron gibbering in mortal fear of the the Oh c’mon variant (aka the common cold). And the solution, apart from keeping the Iron Curtain in the West battened down indefinitely? Why, a good old kicking of the designated enemy, the social degenerates, the unjabbed (which will soon mean all those who have not had the 1st booster). In a state bullied and propagandised into a 95% double-vaxx rate (all our political leaders had once agreed that 80% would suffice for herd-immunity-led opening-up), the 5% unstabbed will now be excluded from everywhere – hospitals, bottle shops, pubs, restaurants, cafes, museums, aged-care facilities and even children’s play centres – “for years to come”, he added in a news conference. The Covid deviants will be permitted to subsist by enterring supermarkets (for now). Because, it’s obvious that,… Read more »

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

I should feel outraged and oppressed, I know. But I don’t. There’s probably a (metaphorical) semi trailer bearing down on me but I find it all kind of funny.
Masky Mark is in trouble. And he knows it. He gave another press conference today and issued another set of idiotic rules about the fireworks on Australia Day. This usually attracts thousands to the banks of the Swan River, but with compulsory masks and vaccine checkers wandering about, the crowds will probably stay home.
There was open dissatisfaction at work today. The office is full of people who have done what society asked of them: studied hard, got their qualifications, built their impressive CVs. And THEY are feeling thoroughly fucked over. Masky’s bots are singing hosannas at his own online spaces but elsewhere it’s a different story.
We don’t have a state election here until 2025. But we do have a federal election this year. I look forward to McClown and his Labor sidekicks telling us over and over after the numbers are counted that Labor’s federal thrashing was not influenced in any way by state issues.
Call me perverse, call me optimistic, call me perversely optimistic.

Phil Shannon
4 years ago

ITEM: “Federal Court reveals why it upheld decision to send Novak Djokovic home” – The full reasons behind the Federal Court’s dismissal of Novak Djokovic’s legal challenge to the cancellation of his visa have been published, reports the Sydney Morning Herald. So glad to see that the most learned judges in the land agreed that the Australia government has every right (as specified in the generous provisions of the Immigration Act) to banish anyone from our wonderful land because they might be harbouring naughty ideas on freedom of medical choice (a small number of the government’s own MPs share the same views as Djokovic but they have nowhere to be deported to – perhaps camps might be the go for them). The decision to expel Novak has an air of desperation, however, as do all Show Trials, because it shows that our government is so terrified of a single tennis player because the domestic vaxx mandates are not as popular as the raw number of jabbees (93% double-jabbed nationwide) suggests. A recent poll showed that 40% of Australians who had got the shot felt pressured (by governments, employers, family, etc) to get it. Unwilling conscripts do not make for happy campers. But… Read more »

SamBolyne
SamBolyne
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

The piss poor Australian government have decided to take on a professional duelist. Not just a professional duelist but the best in the world. Do they really think Djokovic is going to concede. Go Djokovic!!

scaredmama
scaredmama
4 years ago

My school has immediately stopped masks in classrooms…. but not in corridors? But the kids I spoke to are thrilled, though cynical – there was significant eye-rolling about the oddness of no to classes, yes to halls, but they’re grateful for small mercies.

On the other hand, one of my older teens had to cancel yesterday because of a ‘reaction’ to the booster. They were well enough to text me though, so I’m hopeful its just a bit of nastiness.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

same here – on – off, on – off, do the hokey kokey while singing Happy Birthday twice (or something)

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

Tells us a great deal about the quality of the teachers in schools

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

“On the other hand, one of my older teens had to cancel yesterday because of a ‘reaction’ to the booster. They were well enough to text me though, so I’m hopeful its just a bit of nastiness.”

I didn’t think kids were already taking the 3rd jab (‘booster’)… have you had all your children jabbed? And how many times?
What was ‘the reaction’?

scaredmama
scaredmama
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Sorry, by kids I mean my students. I have no say in their choices, sadly. And yes, unfortunately they are already being ‘encouraged’ to take more. Perhaps she meant 2nd jab? It was a text, so I’m not certain.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Scaredmama is a teacher. I don’t believe she has had her own children stabbed.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  scaredmama

Last month, we were warned against dancing. Except at weddings. That was okay.

jeepybee
4 years ago

I was calling a few lefties I know “racist” for dismissing the South African data.

It was hilarious.

I recommend that we all start doing so.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Dear Carole, I’m also a straight talker, so please fuck off and take your jab and your propaganda with you

Covid: NHS in push to vaccinate the final four million – BBC News

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

They are now trawling the streets for down and outs to jab

I have not seen any evidence that they are selling the organs of the down and outs

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

¿In rural Derbyshire, mountain rescue volunteers have been used to transport the elderly to vaccination sites.”

What do they do? Truss the old folk up in aluminium straitjackets, tie them to stretchers, and run them into the jabbatoir?

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

The arms race!

Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Had a small giggle at the “4 million” crap. Probably closer to 24 million.

And this is the same mob that accuse us of misinformation.

This piece also has some real bollocks in it: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-55274833

Claim is that England has 91% of people having had one jab of the gunk, but not one single region has above 86% of its population jabbed; likewise 2nd jab.

Who at the government is doing the sums?

The article is still also claiming the Pfizer pish is stored at -70°C. I thought this had been changed months ago.

Just more lazy BBC ‘journalism’.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

I know a person who had their fourth jab yesterday

That is 4 jabs in 10 months

I am not making this up

jeepybee
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

The neighbour did too. Which is surprising, as she’s only just had heart surgery… Her doctor needs shooting!

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Friend who has had 5, flu jab, pnemonia jab, 2 covid jabs and a booster, plus 2 bad bouts of ‘covid’, now hoping its not that virus again as feels ill

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I now know two triple-jabbed, who test constantly, are now testing constantly positive BUT with no symptoms, thus putting themselves into endless isolation!

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I didn’t know the 4th jab had been rolled out – apart from weird places such as Israel?

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

This was their fourth covid jab. Don’t know what other jabs they’ve had

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Where? Which country?

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Wales

thefoostybadger
thefoostybadger
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Cecil B is correct…..I know 2 people who have had a 4th Covid jab, both have recently, (say 3-4 months ago), had fairly serious cancer which was operated on.

Both told that a 4th shot was “beneficial” due to their vulnerable physical state.

Both jabbed before we had an opportunity to try and highlight the risks.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

My BiL had 2 Covid shots plus booster, flu shot and pneumonia jab all within 6 months. The last I heard was he couldn’t go out to meet old friends over from Israel because he had the sniffles and was staying home. 🙄

unmaskthetruth
4 years ago

covidians are digging in. For the first time throughout all of this nonsense I have been refused service in a ship as I wasn’t wearing a mask. I claimed exemption but the dickhead wasn’t having any of it. I asked for his name so I could report him but he wouldn’t give it to me so I took a photo of him. Can anyone suggest what is the next stage we need to take twats like this down urgently.

unmaskthetruth
4 years ago
Reply to  unmaskthetruth

*shop

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  unmaskthetruth

Can they do what they want on their own premises, maybe you can go somewhere else. I went into a farm shop yesterday, notices everywhere at the entrance plus the sanitation ‘station’, ignored it all and got great service with a smile when paying from an unmasked worker, behind a screen, but still

CGL
CGL
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

No – for insisting someone wear one Section 29 (5)(a) of the Equality Act 2010 applies, for denying someone entry or service Section 13 (1) applies. Company policy can never trump the law. It is discrimination, pure and simple and the person discriminating is liable, not the shop. For anything up to £9k I think

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  DS99

Very interesting, in conclusion, those terrified of being near someone who does not wear a mask for any reason, should not be socialising, their paranoia should be recognised as a mental disorder

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  unmaskthetruth

You didn’t think to find out who manages the shop? What ‘shop’? Name it here. What ‘service’ did you want? You don’t say. Details are important.

Felice
Felice
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

EF, it’s the general blanket denial that gets me. There’s a small local non tatty gifts and clothing (ie scarfs, gloves, handbags, nice jumpers etc) shop in my town. I saw something nice in the window whilst out for a walk last summer and decided to go in and check it out. Stopped at the door and told to put a mask on. Apparently one of the other workers lives with a very vulnerable person so everyone is required to mask. I said I was exempt and challenged to show my pass. As I did not have my handbag on me where my lanyard lives, I said I did not have it with me. So she denied me entry. As she was wearing just a visor, at half tilt, I proceeded to give her a lecture on how useless it was and how she ought to be wearing a mask as well but she was obviously not listening at all. I thought about taking this further, but life was a bit shit at the time and I had a lot of other things going on, so I let it go. Still rankles though. I might even have another try shortly… Read more »

thefoostybadger
thefoostybadger
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Maybe he has the skitters and wanted some adult pampers…..but doesn’y want to share that here?

What the fuck is wrong with you today? 🙂

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  unmaskthetruth

Try this if you want to go back: https://www.laworfiction.com/2020/07/face-covering-litigation-threats-and-administrative-headache/ As the the start of face nappy diktats in 2020, a little door sh!tler tried his luck with my husband and refused to accept his exemption, AND he called over his manager for back up. Hub pulled out a copy of this document, which we carried around with us, until shops got the message that they couldn’t discriminate and that we don’t have to show prove of exemption, and he proceeded to recite from it. That shut both of them up immediately, and we’ve never had any trouble since.

Idris
Idris
4 years ago
Reply to  unmaskthetruth

They are breaking the discrimination laws by denying you access to a business which provides services to the public. You can serve them notice of your intention to sue. Templates are available in Telegram app or online.

ImpObs
4 years ago

Bend over, here it comes…
https://ovgnews.com/fed-opens-debate-over-possible-digital-currency/

another “conspiracy theory” from the Federal Reserve.

Watch out for mainstream pundits bestowing the benefits of CBDC and programmable money – we shall know them by their words

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

They can bang on about the wonderful roll out of their ‘vaccines’ as much as they like. The question is what has the roll out really done, doesn’t give immunity, doesn’t stop spread, allegedly decreases symptoms, but how can they possibly know this.. The numbers now of those who died OF covid are now being downgraded, plus, REMOTE GP death certs and no post mortems can’t even prove how many elderly died OF covid. They appear to want to continue with this myth for what the Labs and the Pharma Industry can bring to the UK economy, and ‘making life difficult for the UNjabbed’, would be an essential push to bring in the passports to do this, nothing to do with health

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Of course it’s nothing to do with ‘health’ – it’s been a scam from Day One. The control of people, and relieving them of their money.
The Rich shall inherit what the Poor used to have.

If you get jabbed you can have a valid Vaxx Pass. If you don’t want to get jabbed then you can have a Vaxx Pass but it won’t be valid. That’s about it, really.
The face masks and the threat of fines for not complying are theatre to keep everyone in a state of fear.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Lead singer of Meatloaf dies aged 74yrs

I have seen no evidence that he was jabbed

I have seen no evidence that he was playing football at the time

John
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Meatloaf has been in poor health for years.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Isn’t his ‘health’ his own ‘private affair’? Apparently not.

scaredmama
scaredmama
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Meatloaf talked very openly about his health, actually. And given what he has said, he was probably pleased to have made 74.

John
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Billy Connolly has talked openly about his Parkinson’s. It still remains his choice to do so. If I want to be open about any health issues that I may have is my choice, but I would not expect to be asked about them on a public forum and for any assumptions made by the fact that I didn’t do so.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  John

I’d say his comorbidities did the job.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

Hey DS followers, here’s something we might have overlooked: the actual number of covid deaths could be less than previously thought! No, it’s true, don’t take my word for it, check it out for yourselves – Sajid Javid has told us that the figures are not reliable.

Why have I wasted countless hours on this site of know-nothings? I wonder if they’ll allow me to re-apply for the tv licence I told them to shove?

Seriously though, the Chief Medical Advisor to the UKHSA said:

“Deaths within 28 days, we regard as a leading indicator and we monitor this very carefully. But it doesn’t take into account people who have died with Covid,”

Now that is bow-tie-spinning wacky stuff.

Bit odd, that Javid and Co. have not been aware of the situation thus far.
Gits, who do they think they are? Who do they think we are? Shows you what their real estimation of people is.

iane
iane
4 years ago

Yes – and their estimation of most of the Public has, truly sadly, proved to be totally accurate!

CGL
CGL
4 years ago

We are but vermin to them

isobar
4 years ago

Things look like they are livening up in Canads. Let’s hope that ‘people power’ has an impact!

Petition to oust Quebec’s premier for imposing a tax on the unvaccinated soars past 200,000 signatures
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/petition-to-oust-quebecs-premier-for-imposing-a-tax-on-the-unvaccinated-soars-past-200000-signatures/

J4mes
4 years ago

The true cause of the public’s anger” – How much of the fury is occasioned by the fact that Boris went to a drinks party in his garden and how much is down to the retrospective suspicion that the public were taken for mugs in 2020 – and that we were mad to have gone along with it all, asks Rod Liddle

The true feeling of the public continues to be heavily manipulated by the BBC.

I’m sure others on here will have seen or heard the ‘official-non-official’ spoof of Line of Duty, voiced over by the actual actors, telling Pfeffel the country is furious because of the “sacrifice” they’ve made.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

So true – and so shameful, of the BBC AND of so much of the public sheeples!

#Homo Non Sapiens

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

My post from about 24 hours ago. I had just finished it when I heard about the Feb 5 non opening; I won’t claim clairvoyance because a blind man and his guide dog could have seen something coming.

LIke our unlamented Joooolya, Masky Mark’s reverse Midas touch turns everything to shit. The health care system is proof of that. FFS! This bloke couldn’t organise a fart in a baked bean factory!

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Is it about time Mask Paranoia was recognised as a mental health condition. The wearers who insist on others wearing them are wearing them with absolutely no faith in their effectiveness but still wear them, rather like 2 people standing under their umbrella’s full of holes and drenched convinced they must be working as they both have one.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

A type of comfort blanket.

John
4 years ago

Linus from the Charlie Brown Peanuts cartoons would feel right at home.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Just thought of a name for the rush to jab, ‘The Arms Race’

The Rule of Pricks
The Rule of Pricks
4 years ago

Now that science has defanged Covid, it’s time to get on with our lives Devi Sridhar Seriously!! What is wrong with this woman…….frantic back-pedalling to save her own incompetent, ill-informed arse. “The third group – where I sit – have evolved their position as the data and tools, namely vaccines and therapeutics, have also evolved to transform Covid-19 into something more akin to other infectious diseases that we control and manage. My analysis has consistently responded to the latest evidence.” What!!! Thats were she sits now! That group has been around since virtually the beginning as evidence and scientific fact replaced conjecture and speculation. She cant claim to be in this group now. You dont get to join like youre flicking on a lightswitch. She spent up until yesterday ignoring and dismissing the data to the point of contradicting it without basis and proof. Her analysis consistently dismissed (or ignored as her training and lack of common sense doesnt allow her to even judge the data worthy of dismissal) the data and she went out of the way to smear those better qualified than her to analyse the data. Fuck off! We dont want you in our camp. This is… Read more »

The Rule of Pricks
The Rule of Pricks
4 years ago

I like her use of the word ‘camp’ though….

Perhaps for those in her first camp – “The first group still seem to see the virus as the same deadly one of March 2020, despite the massive scientific progress in managing it, and they suggest extremely cautious measures” – we could build an actual camp and imprison them in it.

JeremyP99
4 years ago

TEN (10) a day according to the ONS. That’s TEN.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/aboutus/transparencyandgovernance/freedomofinformationfoi/covid19deathsandautopsiesfeb2020todec2021

Johnson needs to swing.

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A passerby
A passerby
4 years ago

Shine a light on politicians and people, we will find nothing but mirrors reflecting an image equal to majority opinion. Welcome to the future, the robots were not mechanical after all!

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  A passerby

Exactly!

Castorp
Castorp
4 years ago

Jordan Peterson has finally seen the light – see here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk9jvETVwNw

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Standing on the shoulders of those who have come forward [to be ‘vaccinated’)” (Stabit Jabit).

But I’m not sick. I haven’t been seriously unwell for years, I’ve had about one day off sick ever. Why should I be blamed for anything?