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Anti_socialist
4 years ago

This really pisses me off X RAYS could replace PCR tests for Covid after scientists claim breakthrough is able to give result within minutes and is 98% accurate because on the first day of lockdown in March 2020, I was explaining to my wife an experienced nurse the only way to clinically diagnose covid was a lung xray. And it’s not because I’m genius, it’s because I heard a doctor say it on the internet! How’s it taken so long

Fearless
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Repeated x-rays are known to increase your risk of developing cancer….

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Fearless

Think about it & then come back to me.

Fearless
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I purposefully didn’t join those dots at the end of my sentence 🙂

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Fearless

You would only xray symptomatic patients to confirm diagnosis in severe cases. It would be impossible to mass test. You know, like old-fashioned medicine.

John
4 years ago
Reply to  Fearless

Yet women are subject to regular mammograms to rule out breast cancer, despite the fact that the X-ray is not particularly accurate (or so I understand).

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  John

We’re actually informed when invited that the effect of the scan may increase the likelihood of developing cancer, and if they find any abnormal cells, they’ll treat you for cancer, even if they don’t know if those cells would go on to develop into cancer! But have the scan anyway!

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Fearless

Yes. But, as with everything, the issue is the degree of actual risk. Covid increases your risk of dying. Fact – but here we argue for proportionality.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

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Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

So will the zombies be issued with flimsy plastic DIY once-a-day x-ray kits made in China? Or will hospitals devote their x-ray machines exclusively to looking for covvie?

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The latter

MrkMtchll
MrkMtchll
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

well, they aren’t being used much. I had an x-ray earlier in the week. the place was deserted yet I had to wait alone for ten minutes before being given some rag that looked like it had been used in an oil change on the radiographer’s car to cover myself. When I came out still no one else around. And they had the audacity to tell me it will take 7-10 days for the x-ray to reach GP!

John
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

TB is confirmed by chest X-ray, as are all lower respiratory tract infections. In the old days (BC, Before Covid), if a patient presented with signs and symptoms of a suspected chest infection then a chest X-ray was used to rule in or rule out a lower respiratory tract infection.
If memory serves in prehistoric times (pre 2000), there was regular TB X-ray screening.
However, TB is significantly worse than SARS-CoV-2/CoViD19.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Lots of people missed the point, I obviously wasn’t clear in explanation. The only clinical method to diagnose covid is by xray, you’d evidently have to have severe symptoms, in fact it was my mistake, because early on it was suggested CT scan was probably the only means to accurately confirm covid.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Gain of Function Garbage Dr. Sam Bailey (13 mins)

ImpObs
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

She’s party of a Limited Hangout, a circle jerk of patrion farmers, that coincidently lets all the perpetrators off the hook.

Go to Kaufmans shop and look at the “products” blatent Grifter.

Taken to pieces after the 3hr mark in this stream
https://www.mccairndojo.com/past-episodes/#boxcast:qj9dkkwkmiyie8ik1hyj@00:00:00

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

I’ve an open mind, I can see holes in both arguments. I’m not a Kaufman fan. Everyone has something to sell.

Personally I take issue with germ theory because I’m a contrarian, I don’t just accept something on someone’s say so, I need the evidence, as yet no one’s produced a virus.

Equally, terrain theory doesn’t explain the likes of myxomatosis. But Bailey makes some sound points & when people try to discredit the person not their science, it says all I need to know.

Question everything.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

The fact remains that with all this talk of gain of function viruses in circulation, there is no noticeable gain of function virus. Im just not hearing about people being hospitalised with blood clots on the lungs after catching “THE VIRUS”, sorry. Its bullshit and has proven to be the case. That we are in the here and now with no verifiable proof of a novel virus and governnments making feeble excuses as to why this is the case says all you need to know.

sabreman64
sabreman64
4 years ago

To no-one’s surprise, that pint-sized tyrant Khan has announced that from next Thursday muzzles will still be required in London on public transport. But it’s only a condition of carriage, not a legal requirement. So up yours, Khan.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  sabreman64

Yes, wee Khan!

Adamb
4 years ago
Reply to  sabreman64

It’s just so infuriating that he thinks he knows better than the national authorities on this (ok, we think they’re cretinous too, but that’s beside the point).

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago
Reply to  sabreman64

I don’t think there are any circumstances in which Khan will drop masks on TFL. Looking forward to it being ignored in increasing numbers as happened back in July.

Username1
4 years ago

“We cannot eradicate this virus”.
What, REALLY??? Like you can’t eradicate any fucking virus in existence? Thanks for ruining everyone’s lives for 2 years before you stumbled on the galacticly blindingly obvious.
Give me strength.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Todays Roundup lead could have been written March or April 2020, probably was.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup. British public to pay for Covid tests by June. Reuters.
Why wait until then ?

Requiring people* to pay £30.00 for a week of 7 tests for a virus they’ve probably either had already or haven’t got just now but which wouldn’t do them much harm if they did.

Best way to stop unnecessary self testing overnight. Covid finished.

*”people”. Does that include dolies, Pensioners and other claimants or can they still test without charge?

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Unvaccinated only allowed back to work with 2x paid-for LFTs?

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

NB I am not making a suggestion, it’s just that the Reuters piece doesn’t give any real detail. I agree we should just end testing for all, but the government is still on a jab drive – I was surprised to get a text yesterday trying to get me in for one.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

I got a ‘send to all’ text from my GP on Tuesday to book jabs 1 & 2 (already got), jab 3 which is additional to 1&2 but distinct from Booster, plus the Booster itself (so #4).

The GP Practice auto answering phone message still says they are only boost jabbing the over 75s (as per several months) so presumably any new stabs for the sprightly will be in a hired murkey church hall somewhere in the vicinity (dunno, haven’t responded).

MrkMtchll
MrkMtchll
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

I started to receive the texts again last week. I have blocked the number now. They don’t seem to understand NO THANKS

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

By rights with the charging for tests, that should end the debacle instantly. But as we know every silver lining has a cloud. Soon there’ll be certain conditions where you WILL have to keep testing and now paying for it. All part of the asset grab. And, of course, there will be those that would willingly hand over cash in order to continue to martyr themselves to the cause.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup. Red Wall Tory collapse. Spectator.

Survey suggests Tories would lose all but 3 of “54 Red Wall MPs” because of partygate.

Survey of 518 people, gimme a break

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

And modelling from that data we can predict that Keir Starmer will win all the seats in the House of Commons. As so often these days, the actual data don’t matter, it’s all about the psychology.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

10 surveyed persons per lost constituency leads me to believe the result to be insubstantial

(‘Pass’ @ ‘0’ Level Stats 1973).

Sceptic Nurse
4 years ago

Here is my new video looking at some recently published medical papers.
Titled “Why are we vaccinating healthy children against a disease that poses negligible risk to them?”
https://odysee.com/@ScepticNurse:3/why-are-we-vaccinating-healthy-children

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Sceptic Nurse

Very good, very laudable but, as your nurse says at the start of his presentation, we have known since almost the very beginning that Covid almost only affects the elderly with multiple comorbidities.

Why are we even still discussing ‘treatments’ for children for whom Covid is not a threat but those treatments themselves potentially are together with rafts of restrictions that everyone knows are physically and mentally damaging to children both now and into the future ?

Sceptic Nurse
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The video features me – I write, record, and edit everything myself – it’s a one man band 🙂
I completely agree with you – and I dont recall mentioning ‘treatments’ in this video?
My video makes it clear that covid is not a threat to children, and that their natural immune systems are great. I then discuss the risks of vaccination, both known risks, as well as unknown risks. And I conclude with the question – so why are we vaccinating them? I hope my video helps to wake parents up to the absolute recklessness of this.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Sceptic Nurse

Your videos are excellent which is why I subscribe to your YouTube channel which deserves a far larger audience.

My apologies, as a layman I used the word ‘treatment’ loosely to include vaccine.

Surely anyone with a passing interest in the welfare of their children are already aware that these vaccines are much more likely to do harm than good but the more the information is spread the better.

The government deliberately spent the whole of Lockdown One suppressing the fact that only 6 or 7 young children had died ‘of?’ Covid; all of them with severe comorbidities that would probably have killed them anyway.

They loudly released this information as a purely political act to encourage parents to send their children back to school early summer 2020.
They seemed to think that they could turn the fear they had created on and off like a tap.

Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Sceptic Nurse

Many thanks for your excellent video.

Numerically looking at the ONS deaths data shows that covid isn’t an illness that affects children.

Here is the chart of all cause deaths in 1 to 14 year olds per million including 2020 and 2021. Deaths per million have been below those in previous years.

1-14-19th-January.jpg
Sceptic Nurse
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Thank you, yes I hope that I made that point clear in my video.

Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Sceptic Nurse

Yes you made it clear at the beginning that there was 2 years of data to show that. And then went on to explain in the rest of the video why biologically children weren’t affected based on published studies.

Not a criticism at all, it’s a great video and you are tackling the issue from the medical perspective, but sometimes actually showing the official data on a chart helps to demonstrate what you are saying in relation to the data is totally backed up by that official data.

Thanks again for all you are doing.

Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

I try to avoid deaths labelled as covid as it should be based on symptoms, and possibly ground glass on a chest x-ray with the diagnosis confirmed by a positive test

But if we do look at deaths labelled as covid based on an unreliable test alone the survival percentages of children is essentially 100% as this chart shows

20th-January-survival.jpg
Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

We also see that deaths in 15-19 year olds (per million) were running at normal levels relative to earlier years until experimental vaccination started in this age group when it suddenly increased in particular in males.

Here is the chart for 15-19 year oild males again based on the ONS data with first dose experimental vaccination in 2021 shown by the shaded region. Correlation isn’t causation, but no open attempt by the authorities has been made to explain this.

15-19-males.jpg
Sceptic Nurse
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

I agree @Freecumbria.
Yesterday HART sent an open letter to the MHRA, regarding this deeply concerning increase in deaths of young males
https://www.hartgroup.org/open-letter-to-the-mhra-regarding-child-death-data/

Adamb
4 years ago
Reply to  Sceptic Nurse

I don’t see how this can be brushed off, but I have a nasty feeling it will be.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup ” ‘I didn’t realise’ why pay up?” Telegraph. As we all know, ignorance of the law is no excuse but why pay Covid fines anyway since the CPS don’t want to know and aren’t chasing up fines given under dubious, soon to be X, legislation? The only people who have been successfully persecuted are the victims of Local Government Officers grinding through pre-existing Licensing Regulations (pubs, taxis, take aways etc) to deny operators from earning their living now and in the future. During Lockdown One a number of Police Services announced that they were dropping all Covid prosecutions launched to date. The reason given was that people in England had been charged under ‘regulations’ applicable only in Wales. There are Police Officers called Custody Sergeants part of whose job is to make sure that the accused are appropriately charged under the correct legislation. The idea that such an Officer would fail to notice “only applies to Wales” is laughable. That several from different Forces should do so simultaneously smacks of conspiracy. Those original cases were dropped because the Police knew the legislation was bollocks and they would end up looking stupid in Court. Such regulations may well have since… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup. Omnicon is on the way out. Spectator. Pre Covid I had a conversation with two married Epidemiologists, one medic, other academic, about the then current Ebola outbreak in West Africa and how much damage it might cause if it reached Europe They explained quite simply that viruses (yes I know ‘virus’ is plural too, like sheep) have three main characteristics in terms of overall lethality. 1. How transmissable is it? How many of those it contacts will it infect? 2. How lethal is it to those it infects? 3. How robust is the virus outside of a live host body. Ebola is quite strongly transmissable and will infect most of those it comes into significant contact with, especially with exchange of body fluids. Ebola is highly lethal and will kill most of those it infects without significant medical intervention. Ebola is not at all robust outside of a live human host. This means that Ebola is a rubbish virus since it kills most of those it contacts with leaving it exposed to a hostile environment when everyone is dead. The only reason it sometimes approaches The West is because of our interventions in it’s natural habitat The common cold… Read more »

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

David Aaronovitch is a totalitarian joke. I remember him writing that prohibition worked.

No, prohibition was totalitarian and, if you think it worked, totalitarianism is your goal.

James Kreis
4 years ago

A revisionist without shame. Ghastly man.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

Yes, he said that it had reduced drinking and conveniently ignored the huge accompanying rise in crime that resulted from it, as if it were a price worth paying, as if crime isn’t bad for your health.

Mark
4 years ago

When scum like Aaronovitch and Dan Hodges are scurrying over to your side, you know that’s where the rats think the safe ground is.

Not much intellectual encouragement, that people who are so wrong about so many things are arguing for the correct side of an issue for once, but some reassurance that the political tide at least is flowing in the right direction

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Might there be a mechanism to recognise genuine but previously ill informed ordinary people who have finally seen the light, who deserve a mighty and sincere welcome from us?

As distinct from journalists, politicians, self serving ‘experts’ and other false prophets who have changed their message purely for self advantage by appearing to be on the right side of history at the very end.
These latter need to be constantly reminded of their lies and malfeasance right up to the point of their final ‘conversion’.

Shouty American media pundits of no real expertise appear to be among the worst of these.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Well, Dan Hodges has mostly been fairly sensible; Aaronovitch of course is one of the most unpleasant political commentators around and certainly deserves the ‘scum’ description!

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Long before Covid, Aaronovitch was as illiberal as it is possible to be.

Aaronovitch said prohibition worked. That speaks for itself.

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago

Health Sec Javid already in retreat this morning, saying he’d still wear a mask in a shop, all the backbone of a slug. We’ll never get of of this.

Adamb
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

Yep. I hate seeing people wearing these things almost as much as wearing them myself (which I don’t)

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

Is the tide turning at last?
On BBC news last night, a correspondent actually said: “Deaths (Covid?) Of ANY REASON:(90 plus years, 32 stone,long term health issues in the last 24 hours”.
Pity about the last 22 months of :”WE’RE ALL GOING TO DIE/BRING OUT YOU DEAD” from the MSM.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

Dunno about wallpaer, it might actually be curtains for our ‘leader’.

Part of me is fearful of who might be sucked in by the void of his departure. But, given the current situation, I think the party (no pun intended) must realise that, regardless of who any potential replacement might be, they are in limp-mode, and can’t afford to create additional alienation.

I would so dearly love to see him gone.

Oh, I just thought: why don’t they ditch the Conservative bit (defunct now anyway), and just re-brand as … The Party.

RickH
4 years ago

I actually find this ‘Partygate’ affair pretty depressing. It takes predictable trivia to stir the nation into wakefulness.

dearieme
dearieme
4 years ago
ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

Im becoming more and more concerned at how politicians of Asian descent – Khan, Zahawi, Patel, Javid – appear to be behaving in a way which is treasonous and against the interests of the British people. I believe the Asian community could bring real positive change to British politics, but the ones who are making it through are serving something which is hostile to the British people. If this is a taste of things to come, this could become an issue for the Asian community as a whole. Are they happy being represented by these people. Do they want their reps to be little more than traitors, subverting British democracy and destroying the freedoms and rights that attracted and enabled their historical arrival to these shores in the first place