Royal Society Report: Big Tech Should Not Censor Dissent

In a welcome injection of sanity into the debate about whether social media companies should remove content that challenges the the scientific establishment’s orthodoxy about climate change, lockdowns and the vaccines, a report from the Royal Society has concluded that the risks of censorship outweigh the benefits. The Financial Times has more.

Calls for social media sites to remove misleading content – for example about vaccines, climate change and 5G technology – should be rejected, according to the U.K.’s senior scientific academy.

After investigating the sources and impact of online misinformation, the Royal Society concluded that removing false claims and offending accounts would do little to limit their harmful effects. Instead, bans could drive misinformation “to harder-to-address corners of the internet and exacerbate feelings of distrust in authorities,” its report says.

In the UK there have been calls from across the political spectrum for Twitter, Facebook and other platforms to remove antivax posts. However, “clamping down on claims outside the consensus may seem desirable but it can hamper the scientific process and force genuinely malicious content underground”, said Frank Kelly, mathematics professor at the University of Cambridge who chaired the Royal Society inquiry.

He added that removing content and driving users away from mainstream platforms makes it harder for scientists to engage with people such as anti-vaxxers. “A more nuanced, sustainable and focused approach is needed,” he said.

While illegal content that incites violence, racism or child sex abuse must be removed, legal material that runs counter to the scientific consensus should not be banned, the report said. Instead there should be wide-ranging action to “build collective resilience” so that people can detect harmful misinformation and react against it.

“We need new strategies to ensure high quality information can compete in the online attention economy,” said Gina Neff, Professor of Technology and Society at the University of Oxford, and a co-author of the report. “This means investing in lifelong information literacy programmes, provenance-enhancing technologies and mechanisms for data sharing between platforms and researchers.”

The well informed majority can act as a “collective intelligence” guarding against misinformation and calling out inaccuracies when they come across them, said Sir Nigel Shadbolt, executive chair of the UK Open Data Institute and another co-author. “Many eyes can provide powerful scrutiny of content, as we see in Wikipedia,” he added.

Some fears about the amplification of misinformation on the internet – such as the existence of “echo chambers” and “filter bubbles”, which lead people only to encounter information that reinforces their own beliefs – have been exaggerated, the report found.

Worth reading in full and you can read a summary of the report here.

Stop Press: Dr. Vinay Prasad, an Associate Professor of Epidemiology and Biostatistics at the University of California, San Francisco, has made a similar case in UnHerd, arguing that Joe Rogan should not be censored by Spotify for inviting Dr. Peter McCullough and Dr. Robert Malone on to his show. Dr. Prasad sets out what he thinks they got right and what he thinks they got wrong, but concludes that any attempt to suppress dissenting voices would be contrary to the principles of open scientific inquiry and would undermine public trust in science. Excellent piece. Worth reading in full.

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Mark
4 years ago

“While illegal content that incites violence, racism or child sex abuse”

A telling error here. “Violence” and “child sex abuse” are actual criminal acts. “Racism” is mere dissent from the prevailing orthodoxy.

But the antiracist dogma is now so deeply embedded in our culture that most people just assume the nonsense that “racist” opinions are in themselves evil thoughtcrmes, and expressing them an evil speechcrime.

But in the end this is just more of the same as the suppression of “antivax” opinion – the suppression of opinions that those with the power to get laws enacted believe would be better suppressed, for the greater good of society.

RiffRaff
RiffRaff
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’d argue that the meaning of violence is now being blurred. So many left academics in the US advocating that certain words are violence

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RiffRaff

That’s a key part of the mechanism of the ongoing leftist assault on freedom of speech. The goal in the US is to redefine dissenting speech as “hate speech” – a separate category from political opinion that amounts as you suggest to violence rather than speech. It’s an attempt to do an end run around the US First Amendment, either by judicial activism and a SCOTUS decision, or by a political constitutional amendment.

In this country they have found it easier because there is no such constitutional obstacle.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  RiffRaff

Total BS of course – these interest groups seem to be trying to dismantle and ‘deconstruct’ reason and the whole basis of successful and fulfilling human interaction and relationship in pursuit of their psychotic and dystopian political goals

They are Cultural Terrorists.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

and racism is yet another word that’s been “re-defined” when used by the lugepresse to mean practically the opposite of what most think it to mean

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

“Weaponsied” by aggressive self-serving political minorities more like.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“Censorship” is now just applied to preserve whatever narrative is chosen by those in power to further their own ends – simple as that. ( See Soviet Union Nazi Germany, Iran and Communist China).

There is no “moral”defence of it as those who impose it have no “morality” and increasingly see themselves as outside the law ( which they can in any case manipulate and alter ) anyway.

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Excellent point. I noticed this too. The blind acceptance that racism, a thing that happens in your head, is as egregious as illegal physical acts. How did it come to this? How did racism become elevated to such heights?

The classic example of why this is dangerous is the verboten subject of average group differences in IQ in racial and cultural groups, a subject often studied by exceptionally careful researchers. By tarring it with the toxic word “racism” it gets no further than publication in obscure journals. This despite the obvious profound effects on the quality of people’s lives.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Oh, don’t worry. The Labour peers just voted to make “misogyny” a “hate” crime. Whether they will actually ban flirting is not clear…

Mezzo18
Mezzo18
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The people most guilty of misogyny (and homophobia) are the aggressive and vocal advocates of ‘gender’ ideology and those who practise fundamentalist religions. Will they ever be prosecuted? Of course not!

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Boris will be gutted.

BillRiceJr
BillRiceJr
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The word they actually use more than any other is “extremist” speech. Which is of course a completely subjective term. It is being used as a synonym for “racist.”

If you disagree with the narrative you are either an “extremist” or a “racist.” These views are “dangerous” or “potentially harmful” and therefore must be legally blocked. Also, those who produce “extremist” commentary can be prosecuted, lose their jobs, etc.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Big Tech should let us know the truth behind the following

Unexplained Non-COVID Mortality Spike in Americans Aged 18 to 49: Federal Government Mum on Data 
https://www.theepochtimes.com/biden-administration-mum-on-mortality-spike-in-americans-age-18-49_4221057.html?utm_source=newsnoe&utm_campaign=breaking-2022-01-19-1&utm_medium=email&est=nHcvjc6TrZPiv%2FmATfgQZd9HKo1m12d6%2BGh7SuuOu4%2Fs58krSmn1wl3Heyj51Ww4EKhI

Federal authorities have yet to respond to an Epoch Times analysis that shows a dramatic increase in deaths of 18- to 49-year-olds in the United States in the past year. The majority of those deaths weren’t associated with the COVID-19 disease. By Petr Svab

Please come and join our friendly peaceful events.

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Aleajactaest
4 years ago

The same Royal Society that claims CAGW is “settled science” “The Global Warming Policy Foundation has accused the Royal Society of presenting a misleading picture of climate science. The briefing, entitled The Small Print: What the Royal Society left out, challenges claims made in the Royal Society’s recently published Short Guide to Climate Science, and demonstrates how the Society has left out many important facts, caveats and doubts on subjects as varied as the causes of climate change, extreme weather and the role of the Sun. “As an example, the Royal Society addresses the question of why Antarctic sea ice is growing,” says Prof Ross McKitrick, the chairman of the GWPF’s Academic Advisory Council, “but in doing so they present a recently proposed hypothesis as if it were settled science. Failing to admit when the answer to an important question is simply not known does a disservice to the public. We believe that this new paper does a much better job of presenting the whole picture to the public.” The briefing paper was written by an international panel of climate experts, including two Fellows of the Royal Society. The paper is the latest in a series of exchanges between GWPF and the… Read more »

Free Lemming
4 years ago

Wait, silencing scientific debate is unhealthy? No way, don’t believe it, Big Tech told me it was fine!

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Hey, if you were making billions selling a dud product to people which will result in injury which will allow you to sell even more products to the same people to treat the injury your dud product caused, you would totally think it was fine. Of course, you must be entirely devoid of scruples and a conscience. As far as I’m concerned, Big Tech and Big Pharma are one and the same, the same dirty fingers in the 2 pies.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

The fact-checkers agree with you.

PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

The average 22 year old emo intern at Twitter is obviously well trained to make these decisions

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

lol.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago

The thing that should really happen is that Big Tech and Big Pharma should be broken into many little pieces.

All countries have anti-trust laws for very good reason. Big Tech has way, way too much power, which is far too easy to abuse. There are ties between Big Tech and Big Pharma – one seeks to control our minds, the other our bodies. More heinous than Big Tobacco and Big Oil ever were.

As a by the by – if these dipsticks wish to engage with ‘anti-vaxxers’, they can start by refraining from referring to people who are merely looking out for the health and well-being of themselves and those they love by seeking openness and honesty from profit-making enterprises by a term that is purely and alone meant to be derogatory and dismissive. Of course, that would mean they really do want to engage in genuine scientific debate, rather than trying to sucker people like a perv offering a lollipop to a child. Or, if I’m not mistaken, a doughnut in return for getting vaxxed.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

“The thing that should really happen is that Big Tech and Big Pharma should be broken into many little pieces.”

Absolutely so.

Those on the right who oppose such measures out of a general resistance to big government and to state interference in business (the likes of corporate “libertarian” Chris Snowden – I’m looking at you) are discredited fools, who should be ignored on this.

The state already has the power to intervene when corporations get too powerful, and this is a case where corporate wealth and power clearly has been abused, massively, to the detriment of liberty (and indeed of reason).

The covid panic and the cynical manipulation of the US election to remove a populist President and replace him with a senile and corrupt corporate stooge backed by authoritarian hard leftists should be the final straw for the abusive big tech, big media and big pharma corporations.

Hopefully when the Republicans sweep away the corporate stooges and leftist fanatics of the Democrat Party, work on this can begin in the US. Our elites will follow, as usual, even if it’s with much grumbling.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The US is really the only country who can effectively tackle big tech, as they are all US-based companies.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Yes, exactly. Our elites are largely irrelevant here, except insofar as they can influence events on the US as (mostly) adjuncts to the illiberal Democrat side.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

No you need to weaken the WAY they get rich by taxing patent title protection (a government product) not “income”.

This is actually pretty capitalist, well Adam Smith would like it.

Mark
4 years ago

No you need to weaken the WAY they get rich by taxing patent title protection (a government product) not “income”.

Don’t think anybody here suggested taxation as the solution did they?

I agree that there are structural issues here that would benefit from being looked at for the long term, but the urgent and important issue is to break up and defang these particular corporations.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

the problem will just move to whomever owns these patents.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

So much filth to clear from the stables of Power!

rational
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes, but you will need to start by not voting for right wing political parties, who are overwhelmingly “business first”. They will never break up big pharma.

If you don’t have “big pharma”, who develops the drugs. Should governments fund this and focus on the needs of the population? That’s a bit socialist, isn’t it?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Hear, hear!

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Emphatically not. This presupposes the same people who brought us lockdowns, masks and the injecting of children with experimental drugs ought to be the people we turn to when a problem needs solved. If anything characterizes how weak we have become it is this.

The antidote is, as ever, free speech. Private companies can censor what they wish. A reinforcement of the importance of free speech is enough, ideally backed up with a First Amendment style piece of legislation. There are plenty of young entrepreneurial types out there who can create the next big platform.

Mark
4 years ago

It’s a clear sign of the times we live in that it took an investigation for the Royal Society to feel safe in coming out against the suppression of scientific dissent.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

yes, shouldn’t really need an investigation – should really be their motto. the scientific process and free speech are bound together since the time of Galileo

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

should really be their motto”

It kind of already is:

Nullius in verba

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

‘Nil by mouth’?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Perhaps the Royal Society membership’s knowledge of latin is no longer what it once was, and they thought it meant “shut your mouth”.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Nullius addictus judicare in verba magestri… Horace

Not compelled to swear to any master’s words.

steve_z
4 years ago

free speech should be absolutely fundamental. and some people will say things other people disagree with.

lets face it – the authorities have been shouting ‘fire’ in a crowded theatre for the last 2 years

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Exactly this, often overlooked in favour of elaborate regulation (by the very people who locked us down).

The emergence of free speech is a watershed in history, and it’s decline accounts for much of the nonsense we see around us.

Paul B
4 years ago

Why is something that contradicts scientific consensus automatically labelled “misinformation”!? What a crock, the last 2 years have proven that.

Need more proof, well for a start the earth likely isn’t flat and the sun probably doesn’t revolve around the earth – but at one point these things would have been considered Misinformation!!

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

science is far from finished and it won’t progress if anything that goes against the ‘scientific consensus’ is marginalised

rational
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Prove your minority view scientifically, or be quiet.

sabreman64
sabreman64
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Yes. It was only a few centuries ago that the scientific consensus was that Earth was the centre of the universe. And then Galileo came along with his misinformation, saying that the Earth orbited the Sun.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  sabreman64

To be fair, he lacked proof at the time.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

As opposed to the other side?

rational
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

All that is necessary is to prove a novel point of view, against the prevailing view.
There has never been a better environment to publish your point of view, but the reality is that these opposing views don’t get proven, as they have no merit.

The fact that there are a small number of people who believe (but don’t understand) the nonsense and are unhappy doesn’t mean the prevailing view is wrong. Look to your “minority scientist” to do better.

It was proven that the earth isn’t flat. Science proved that. Those people did a good job.
Ask you “minority scientist” to do the same. When they fail (and they will) accept the outcome.

Accept that you know nothing and just believe…..Sounds like a religion.

kate
kate
4 years ago

Another good analysis – thought provoking from Rancourt
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CvSFYAM4pMP1/
He seems to think the geopolitical war between the west and Russia and china includes the extreme control on domestic populations imposed by the Vax pass covid measures.
A CIA coordinated campaign to impose these measures prior to an upregulated hot/cold war with Russia China. All countries want maximised control internally as part of the war measures.
The west has found a way to remove the nuisance of democracy prior to increased aggression directed externally.
So Klaus Schwab the NEF etc etc are just hoaxes to divert attention from the next phase of the global struggle between great powers.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

The US does not want a multipolar world, so a new digital international currency (no exclusion of dollar based trading as Russia ands China were moving towards) wholesale control of economics by the US through these CV measures internally and externally.
Initial phase is psychological deconstruction….no dissent will be allowed.
So this is tyranny imposed by the US deep state on all allies.
Rancourt says it is insanity.
Highly impressive analysis from a slightly different perspective, do watch.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CvSFYAM4pMP1/

miketa1957
miketa1957
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Back in the 1950s, the Science Fiction author James Blish wrote a series of four books under the title “Cities in Flight”. The world depicted in the chronologically first book “They Shall Have Stars” is set around 2013 onwards. In this world, the West, in order to compete against the Soviet East, has introduced so many controls and restrictions that it becomes indistinguishable from the Soviet model. I always thought that was an interesting idea in itself. Maybe it is coming about, in principal if not in detail.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Turns out the most dangerous religion is scientism.

PoshPanic
4 years ago

As it seems that anybody who even questions a single part of the vaccination policy, is immediately called an anti vaxxer, perhaps there should be open discussion on the use of the term. I couldn’t care what I’m called personally, but the term has been weaponised to take down even those who are generally pro vax

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

I’m pro-science and so generally pro-vax. This covid rushed out vax for children has been about as far from science as you can get

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Show me the science that proves vaccines are safe? How many scientists do you know work for free, don’t have families to care for, mortgages to pay. There’s a term for people that believe in science.

Most people don’t know the difference between pure science & applied science.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

anybody who even questions a single part of the vaccination policy, is immediately called an anti vaxxer, the term has been weaponised to take down even those who are generally pro vax”

As I’ve noted here before, this is exactly how all smear terms of this kind work – antivaxxer, sexist, racist, homophobe, antisemite, islamophobe, transphobe, etc.

Take examples of the most extreme kind to initially define the term and establish its evilness, then extend it to cover anyone vaguely associated with that line of thinking.

If anyone the says that a smear target or his views actually aren’t that bad, revert to the original meaning and declare they are “defending” whatever the original evil is.

It’s a political weaponisation of a motte and bailey fallacy.

In the case of “antivaxxer”, it had been pre-demonised long before covid during the long battles over vaccination, and in particular the MMR disputes. Its demonisation was particularly strong within the medical professions, wherein it is pretty thoroughly verboten for any respectable medic. That made it a particularly effective smear for silencing dissent within the profession, and for ensuring medics were strongly pressured to dissociate from any sceptical views and people.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Why do you think anti-vaxxers are wrong?

Vaxtastic
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

This is nothing more than a reflection of their insecurity. Contrast with the attitude towards creationists who are at most dismissed. No one gets their knickers in a twist about them.

People only get triggered with issues of faith. At some level the recently vaxxed are aware they made a choice. The existence of those who chose differently is uncomfortable. Much easier to make them go away.

So all the antivax terminology for me is a sign of deep doubts in the obedient, doubts that are eating away at their sanity buried deep in their subconscious.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Vaxtastic

With you on that analysis.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
steve_z
4 years ago

The narrative has been anti-science since March 2020.

Throw away pandemic plan

Rubbish anyone against lockdowns

If we’d have had open and honest dialogue, they may have realised that harms outweigh (non-existent) benefits. There was plenty of evidence and plenty of published papers showing that

smithey
4 years ago

Instead of trying to force ‘misleading content’ on for example climate change, 5G, vaccinations and Covid off line why do the authorities not instead explain why these views are wrong? For example, Chris Whitty could have a live TV debate with someone like Vernon Coleman. If what Dr Coleman is saying is all a load of nonsense then someone like Chris Whitty should have no problem explaining in a live debate why this is a case and put a stop to such ‘misinformation’ once and for all. In fact, given the concern the authorities have about ‘misinformation’ I would have expected them to relish the opportunity to do this. The fact that they would instead rather ban people from expressing views they do not agree with and won’t/cannot explain why these views are wrong is concerning to say the least.

John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Much better I think would be Dr Aseem Malhotra, a top mainstream medic. who openly says the jabs are doing more harm than good and in his spare time writes good books on how to stay healthier … diet and exercise.

Dr Vernon Coleman is a bit ‘fringe’, although I like his eye-witness comparisons between the efficiency of the NHS 40-45 years ago and its sheer wastefulness now.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

That’s exactly my view. The lack of candour and the inability to consider anything that runs contrary to one’s own view is stifling everything. For instance, if “vaccines” are so safe, and present ARs and future unknowns like ADE are such off-beam concerns, it would behove the vaccine proponents to rebut them with sensible reasoned discussion, rather than the blanket “They’re safe” or worse, “The Government says there’re safe” statements which add nothing to the sum of knowledge on the subject.

Granted that any number of cats might be let out of numerous bags, but for people who want the truth and so forth, that’s a desirable thing. It’s the biter bit, on the “if you’ve nothing to hide, you’ve nothing to fear” rationale.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

Dr Prasad’s piece was NOT excellent. It was not balanced. He clearly stated his belief that covid represented a real threat to life and vaccines were good. From this perspective he grudgingly admitted some comments were valid, but continued to preach the ‘acceptable’ line on others.
If you start from the perspective of millions of covid deaths rather than low thousands ‘of’ covid deaths you write something like this. Reverse the perspective and you attack the ‘accepted scientism’.
Same with the Royal Society, who reject criticism of the settled science of climate change. Their report just says that the establishment needs to be cleverer at stifling dissenting voices .
Why DS think either of these is ‘good news’?

The Dogman
The Dogman
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Quite right. He is entirely on message with the issue of adverse events. He says, “I think it is premature and misleading to talk suggest that the vaccine caused 45,000 deaths. If McCullough wishes to make this case, the best forum would a scholarly publication, where other researchers can examine and critique his methodology.”

Well McCullough has written just such a paper but it was pulled by Elsivier, a little trick that he is taking them to court for. Prasad completely ignores the fact that anyone trying to question the safety of the gene therapies is silenced by the medical establishment and the media.

steve_z
4 years ago

Plan B restrictions in England will be lifted next week, Boris Johnson tells MPs.”

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-60046073

I don’t know what that includes or whether it applies to vaccines mandates. I’d rather he just abolished everything brought in since March 2020

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

He adds the decisions reflect the government’s intention to trust the British people to make the right choices.”

lol!

dearieme
dearieme
4 years ago

“The Royal” may like to pretend that it’s on the side of the angels but that’s hardly consistent with its actions over the past several years. How are the mighty fallen.

steve_z
4 years ago

Boris latest bullshit

“Boris Johnson says the government will set out its long-term strategy for living with Covid and how to avoid restrictions in the future.”

please god no. the way to avoid restrictions is to not implement them

“He says that to do that we will have to remain cautious during these last weeks of winter.”

no we don’t.

“He says the pandemic is not over and adds that Omicron is “not a mild disease for everyone, especially if you are not vaccinated”.”

Its over. Its a mild disease for everyone that isn’t already dying of something else

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Quite.

Flu can kill people. Colds can kill people. But generally only if they are already seriously ill with something else, and we don’t take any silly, pointless measures against them.

John001
John001
4 years ago

BBC R4 is now utterly anti-Johnson.

Even David Davis has called for Johnson to go … hope DD knows what he’s doing.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

who can replace him? Steve Baker? Are there any generally palatable MPs with a high enough profile who were anti-lockdown from the beginning?

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

All of the able politicians (not there are many of them) have no principles and the wrong instincts. And all of the principled politicians with principles aren’t very good at politics and would be eaten alive by the globalists and 24 hour rolling news.

So no, there is nobody to replace him.

Lord Frost seems to have good instincts but he isn’t an MP. I know that there are precedents for a non-MP to be PM but it is basically impossible politically these days.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago

“The well informed majority can act as a “collective intelligence” 

Sounds a bit like the Borg to me.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WdFxe-xMdY

Pfiser talks to FBI and CIA about journalists!

If it looks like a deep state and quacks like a deep state…

steve_z
4 years ago

Starmer says there were 438 Covid deaths yesterday which he calls “a solemn reminder that this pandemic is not over” and urges the public to remain vigilant”

Thick twat Starmer not got the memo yet.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

what about the 1300 non-Covid deaths yesterday. No-one seems to care about them.

rtaylor
4 years ago

Tremendous scientists and people of integrity at the Royal Society, just a few doors down from the Rothschilds. When the following agreed to masking/double masking and lockdowns a few of us plebs thought it would be good to list their names for future reference… List of 148 Prominent Health Officials North American Signatories (70) • Jeremy Howard: University of San Francisco, co-founder fast.ai, Member World Economic Forum Global AI Council • [Dr Vincent Rajkumar](https://www.thelancet.com/pdfs/journals/lancet/PIIS0140-6736(11)61801-1.pdf): Editor in Chief, Blood Cancer Journal • Dr Harold Varmus: Nobel Prize-winning virologist; Professor, Weill Cornell Medicine; former Director, NIH and NCI • Dr Bengt Holmström: Nobel Prize-winning economist; Professor, Economics, **MIT** • Dr Siddhartha Mukherjee: Professor of Medicine, Columbia University Medical Center. • Dr Eric Topol: Director, Scripps Research Translational Institute; Executive VP & Professor, Molecular Medicine, Scripps Research. • Dr Robert Wachter: Professor, Medicine Chair, UCSF; Chair of Advisory Board, Healthcare Improvement Studies, Univ of Cambridge. • Dr Anne W. Rimoin: Professor, Department of Epidemiology; Director, UCLA Center for Global and Immigrant Health; Director, UCLA-DRC Health Research and Training Program • Dr Erik Brynjolfsson: Professor, MIT Sloan; Senior Fellow, Stanford Institute for Human-Centered AI & Stanford Institute for Economic Policy Research. • Dr Diana Romero:… Read more »

rtaylor
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

Cont. • Dr James Januzzi: Professor of Medicine, Harvard; Professor, Cardiology, Massachusetts General Hospital • Dr Vikas Sukhatme: Dean, Emory School of Medicine; Chief Academic Officer, Emory Healthcare. • Dr Barbara Murray: Past President, Infectious Diseases Society of America; Professor of Medicine, University of Texas • Dr Michael Lin: Associate Professor, Neurobiology and Bioengineering, Stanford; Member of Scientists to Stop Covid-19. • Dr Priya Sampathkumar Infection Control and Infectious Disease Specialist. • Dr Mike Thompson: Director, Early Phase Cancer Research, Aurora Health Care. • Dr David Shlim: Past President, International Society of Travel Medicine; Medical Director, Jackson Hole Travel and Tropical Medicine. • Dr Daniel Morgan: Professor of Epidemiology and Public Health and Medicine, University of Maryland. • Dr Lee Ellis: Professor of Surgery, Molecular and Cellular Oncology. • Dr Dawd Siraj: Professor, Infectious Diseases, University of Wisconsin Madison. • Dr Michael Sauri: Clinical Professor, Occupational Medicine, Johns Hopkins and USUHS Bethesda. • Dr Amy Tan: Associate Professor, Medicine, University of Calgary • Dr Ross Levine: Professor, Economic Analysis and Policy, UC Berkeley • Dr Netanya Utay: Assistant Professor, Medicine, University of Texas • Dr Avinash Sinha: Assistant Professor, Anesthesia, McGill University • Dr Chip Lavie: Editor in Chief, Progress Cardiovascular Diseases;… Read more »

rtaylor
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

Cont. • Dr Jürgen Kuball: Chair, Department of Hematology, UMC Utrecht. • Dr Catherine Cordonnier: Professor and Head of Haematology, Henri Mondor University Hospital. • Dr Javier Zulueta: Director, Pulmonary Medicine, Clinica Universidad de Navarra. • Dr Anna Rotkirch: Research Professor, Population Research Institute, Family Federation of Finland. • Dr Key Pousttchi: Professor and past chair, Business Informatics and Digitalization, University of Potsdam. • Dr Chris Papadopoulos: Public Health Director, University of Bedfordshire. • Dr Alexey Morgunov: CEO, Manifold Research; Lecturer, University of Cambridge. • Dr Christophe Rapp: President, French Society of Travel Medicine. • Dr Helene-Mari van der Westhuizen: Oxford University; Co-founder TB Proof. • Dr Frederik Questier, Professor, Vrije Universiteit Brussel. • Dr Lucica Ditiu: Executive Director, Stop TB Partnership. African Signatories (6)• Dr Anneke Hesseling, Professor, Dept Pediatrics and Child Health, Stellenbosch University; Director of the Desmond Tutu TB Centre. • Dr Rodney Ehrlich: Emeritus Professor, Senior Research Scholar, School of Public Health and Family Medicine, University of Cape Town. • Dr Shaheen Mehtar, (retired) Professor, University of Stellenbosch, Chair of Infection Control Africa Network (ICAN). • Dr Angela Dramowski: Professor, Pediatric Infectious Diseases, Department of Pediatrics and Child Health, Stellenbosch University. • Dr Gavin Churchyard: CEO, The… Read more »

ElSabio
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

We’ll need a bigger one…

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ElSabio
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

And have three up-votes for all your hard work… and a star.

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rtaylor
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

I’d prefer a long sentence with their income and savings during the fake pandemic confiscated and given back through reduced utility bills for those who lost their jobs and small businesses.

But many will agree with your option.

Proveritate
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

Head of your list:

• Jeremy Howard: University of San Francisco, co-founder fast.ai, Member World Economic Forum Global AI Council

rtaylor
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

“Last March, as the COVID-19 pandemic was spreading around the world, Jeremy co-founded the #Masks4All campaign. It challenged the global consensus advice at the time on wearing face coverings to protect each other from infection. The campaign is estimated to have reached more than a billion people on social media, and was covered by global news outlets. “This has completely taken over my life,”said Jeremy in an April 1st interview. His June-19 epic tweet-thread reviewing the scientific evidence in support of mask-wearing is a paragon in science communication.”

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Proveritate
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

A campaign based on lying propaganda. What a sad case.

Ha! ‘A paragon in science communication’. NOT.

Qualifications in science?

Oh, well, at least he has a degree in philosophy.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Why it took so long to publish this report, now that the harm is done?

The internet is but a tool. The Big Tech leaders are but glorified hardware store shop assistants, who think they run the planet.

Smelly Melly
4 years ago

I’m reading comments in the Daily Telegraphy of totally idiotic things that have gone on and going on in the interests of “safety” from that non killer disease. Like corpses in a mortuary wearing masks, a boarding school canceling a camping trip as students couldn’t isolate in a tent but could share a dormitory, being able to call a patient/loved one in hospital but couldn’t use FaceTime/Zoom etc etc. I’m no author but this has got to be the grounds for a great book about the Great Covid Hysteria and other lunacies.

eon
eon
4 years ago

VAERS is a voluntary collection network that is prone to two types of biases. First, it may undercount vaccine-related events because providers did not recognise them or lacked motivation to report them. But it can also overcount them. Bad things can happen after vaccination, such as heart attack, that are entirely coincidental but that still might be reported.

There’s literally a Harvard study showing the numbers are under-reported 10 fold. Yes many people may think they have problems when they don’t – and they probably do get reported, but that is unlikely to balance the under-reporting.

The imagined symptoms also works both ways – with Long Covid and Covid a well. I would say the psychosomatic effects of Covid19 have been way worst. 80% of the UK population believes if you don’t get vaccinated you’re going to be in ICU sooner or later.

There’s a really interesting discussion on just how powerful the human mind is imagining health problems on a Michael Shermer Podcast with Suzanne O’Sullivan. She was an expert witness (neurologist) for a case where Swedish refugees fell into self-created comas after being threatened with deportation.

Jo Starlin
4 years ago

“We need new strategies to ensure high quality information can compete in the online attention economy,” said Gina Neff, Professor of Technology and Society at the University of Oxford, and a co-author of the report. “This means investing in lifelong information literacy programmes, provenance-enhancing technologies and mechanisms for data sharing between platforms and researchers.”

Sorry I don’t speak globalist technocratese. Shove your surveillance up your arse.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

The have to hobble those WITH high quality information by censorship to prevent the low quality narrative collapsing

rational
4 years ago

Where is your high quality information?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  rational

I look at what you write and know the opposite is true!

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

This black cloud of COVID-19 and poisonous fake vaccines that descended on the UK and the world in general might well have a silver lining. It might open people’s eyes to the absolute dangerousness of “wokeness” and “cancel culture,” both of which are choking the life out of Western societies and destroying the Western way of life.   If people’s eyes are not opened by the criminal events inflicted upon them over the last two years by their politicians, Health Services and pharmaceutical companies, then Western culture is dead and all but buried, and soon to be just a footnote in history.   What should make people’s blood boil is how “wokeness” has become like a giant octopus in the UK. This monster’s tentacles have now reached into every institution and are actively and eagerly sucking the life out of the country.   A recent article in the now woke Mail about a savage, Shawn Laval Smith, that randomly and brutally stabbed to death a young 24-years-old girl – Brianna Kupfer – in her place of employment is a perfect example of how disgustingly backward and societally rotten the UK has become.   Click the image below to see the… Read more »

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

“Covid Fraud, Climate Fraud” just about sums it all up!

rational
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Phrases that make the climate change deniers and ant-vaxers froth at the mouth.

Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
4 years ago

Seems to me the aim is still to suppress speech and debate, they just want to find ‘better’ ways of doing it.

They still believe one particular narrative (theirs) should prevail, because they believe in their own superiority.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Dame Lynet

https://www.bitchute.com/video/CvSFYAM4pMP1/

The U.S. is decoupling from China with whom it is in an economic war. As a result, there’s going to be huge inflation which will wipe out the savings of ordinary people. He sees “COVID19” as being war measures applied to completely control domestic populations in the shadow of the U.S.-China geopolitical and geoeconomic conflict that will last at least a decade and even risk hot war. A totalitarian system is being put into place to get rid of democracy, and it has the potential to last a really long time. All countries must apply these measures in the context of this global war to ensure stability against unrest among their own populations. He thinks Western elites want an e-currency that will take over the world and gobble up any completing digital currencies, and which also cannot be circumvented. We also discuss resistance and non-compliance.

ElSabio
4 years ago

LOL!

“Many eyes can provide powerful scrutiny of content, as we see in Wikipedia,” he added.

Wikipedia: ‘Thoroughly Corrupt’ says Co-Founder

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iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

Ah, nothing like accidental, laugh-out-loud humour!

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

I think Wikipedia is fine. If you want a list of Indian rivers or the birthplace of a Napoleonic brigadier. Only fools wouldn’t cross-check against other material.

The problematic bits are current politics and scamdemics. That is just made up crap on the hoof, not a real encyclopaedia. No objectivity, no perspective.

ElSabio
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I’ve not used it since Mr William M. Connolley was exposed.

All told, Connolley created or rewrote 5,428 unique Wikipedia articles. His control over Wikipedia was greater still, however, through the role he obtained at Wikipedia as a website administrator, which allowed him to act with virtual impunity.

https://spectator.org/40334_wikipedia-meets-its-own-climategate/

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

wikipedia is absolutely excellent for most stuff. I wouldn’t go near it for anything controversial or politics

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Yup!

Trouble is people now use Wikipedia to validate ongoing situations and narratives. It’s become a sort of twitter not a body of settled knowledge. This makes it somewhat dangerous as an ‘absolute truth’ backstop for students and the gullible.

rational
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Since it can be corrected by people with knowledge, you will never find the nonsense you are looking for.

Hopeless - "TN,BN"
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I contribute to it, on anodyne and uncontroversial topics about English places, and a couple of other equally staid interests of mine. It is utterly hopeless on “moving” current affairs and subjects which involve opinions, and has been completely captured by professional contributors, hired by commercial outfits to plant information or push various agendas.

Over the years, I have given them some modest sums of money, but since 2020, no more. When last asked for alms, I told them that I wouldn’t, for reasons outlined in my paragraph above.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

It’s a good resource, and has undoutedly increased the availability if not always the quality of info available to non-specialists or even specialists just starting their research.

rational
4 years ago

Why should opinions be included in something that should be factual.