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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Britain’s failed establishment will never apologise”. (Telegraph – naturally).

Bring on those bally trials. And bring on some real reform. These crooks mustn’t be allowed to hold us to ransom forever

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

US Coal Consumption Up 17% In 2021
https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2022/01/17/us-coal-consumption-up-17-in-2021/
by Paul Homewood 

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karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Nobody will go to trial, they will all hide behind “best advice available at the time” even though that advice was being given by the likes of Ferguson who was already widely known to be a failed charlatan and bogus “expert” from his earlier disastrous efforts at disease control modelling.

The best advice was given before, during and after Lockdown One. It was given by the little old ladies who were supposed to be the most vulnerable

“They should (have) let Covid run its course like they always have done”.

At least todays Roundup begins with four Telegraph articles that appear to show that paper has finally come around to our Sceptic point of view even though it isn’t saying anything that we have not been telling them for 18-20 months.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

If we can’t convict them of murder, perhaps “manslaughter by dint of careless governing” might stick?

Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

careful of falling into the nudge trap. Ensure you’re ready to see the marionette strings – remember the DT is controlled opposition. Part of the MSM. Until we are back at Christmas 2019 wrt EVERYTHING, their defined new normal is not what I’m putting up with.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

I well remember the ‘New Normal’ which sprang out of nowhere as soon as lockdown arrived. Almost as part of a preconceived plan (surely not!).

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

But have you noticed on the inside page, for some time now, as a buyer of the DT for Sport, letters and Crossword ( Honest, guv ), a few hundred words article will appear that is complete CV bollocks, provably so – why, I ask myself, and not just rhetorically?

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Is that the sound of the Telegraph trying to change bandwagons without anyone noticing?

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Not really: it has always had one leg on each side of the fence. Painful of course, but better than the Guardian (isn’t everything!?).

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“We have won the ‘covid’ war” (Telegraph – again).

We haven’t won anything until all these restrictions are history and Orwell is fiction again. And until we have had trials and convictions. And a national conversation about some appropriate punishments to fit the many crimes.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Wimbledon offers no participation guarantees to Novak” (Telegraph – who else!).

So far as I am concerned he is a champion and a hero against apartheid. Some might criticise him but at the end of the day he has subjected himself to one of those horrible detention places and foregone a possible career highlight.

Come on now and womble free, and make use of the things that the everyday folks leave behind.

wombles of wimbledon wombling free at DuckDuckGo

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Not being a tennis fan I had barely heard of Novak Djokovic before the Australia Tennis Open deportation fiasco.

He will not be short of a bob or two so can afford not to win the prize money but now his worldwide reputation as someone who stands up for what is right will be secure for decades to come.

The Australian Tennis Open 2022 has become worthless and debased as a direct result of their authorities needless hounding of this great man. Whoever does ‘win’ it will forever be dismissed as an “also ran”, their reputation in tatters.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I asked an Aussie friend what would be the point of watching the Men’s competition, when a fit, healthy 9-times champion had been prevented from entering.
Being a fully-jabbed lamb, she wondered what I was driving at.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

A very late response to yesterday’s Roundup reports that demands for refunds are outstripping ticket sales for the Australian Tennis Open

Newsweek 15/1/22 h/t Gregoryno6

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Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Recognition in one’s own lifetime. I’m a happy man, Karen.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

My pleasure, it’s Mr. K. btw.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Noted. I’ll cancel the flowers.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Even milder variants than o mi cron” (Mailicious).

Let’s have it right, excess deaths (if you believe in them) for 2020 were around 68,000, after an exceptionally mild flu season the year before. And tens of thousands of those were caused by lockdowns etc. And the evidence from Belarus and elsewhere is that government restrictions amounting to crimes against humanity made little difference to respiratory deaths. Did you hear Neil Oliver’s latest monologue? It’s evil what they done, whilst government members and the like partied. We really do need those trials.

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Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Excess over the mean over how many years? (20 might be a good number.) How many standard deviations above that mean? It would be nice to have a handle on whether the figure is significant at say the 95% level.

I suspect it is significant, given that they slaughtered many thousands of elderly “care home” inmates – and, as you say, there were a large number of deaths as a result of lockdown.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

I believe they use a 5 year average. Of course there are issues, and I have suspected for for some years that the increase in life expectancy of recent times would go into reverse sooner or later (possibly the rationing years produced a historically healthy generation? and at any rate compared to the drug addled population of today – both legal and illegal). But I think it is a useful measure nonetheless that gives the layman a rough idea of what is happening.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

American life expectancy has been going down for some years as a result of drugs, legal and illegal, and poor diet (the opposite of rationing).

Where America leads the UK generally follows.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The ONS use only 5 years (2015 -> 2019 for death), but it’s quite short compared with some, e.g. the Met Office use 30 (1991 -> 2020, or 1961 -> 1990, inclusive), for monthly records c.f. long term average.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I think the writing on the wall for the annual increase in life expectancy has, for some time, been the surge in obesity.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Quite striking the difference in beach pictures in the 1960’s compared to now.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Neil Oliver has been one of the few media pundits to have been consistently on the right side since the beginnings of lockdown (even if his early Zoom broadcasts were almost unwatchable).

They are now all jumping on board as witness Michael Portillo at the end of today’s Roundup.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes. I found it suspicious that Michael has been largely silent on the matter until now.
Perhaps he’s been stuck in a railway carriage somewhere?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Portillo commands £24.00 per DVD for Great Railway Journeys on Amazon compared to £8-10 for similar presenters so he clearly has his admirers, including me !

Phil Shannon
4 years ago

ITEM: “The day after Novak Djokovic’s deportation: Australian Open facing backlash of its own making” – The mood in the locker room is sympathetic to Djokovic’s plight and now tournament organisers are feeling the heat, writes Oliver Brown in the Telegraph. How on earth does banishing a naturally-immune, unvaccinated Djokovic keep Australians safe when the compulsorily-vaxxed participants in the Australian Open are tumbling like flies? Yesterday, Tuesday morning, a (fully-vaxxed, of course) ballgirl collapsed during a match (between South Africa’s Lloyd Harris and Denmark’s Mikael Torpegaard on Court 16) and was sent home after receiving medical attention. This after a number of (again, fully-vaxxed) tennis players have collapsed or withdrawn from matches during warm-up tournaments. It isn’t the weather (it was a mild 22 degrees when the ballgirl collapsed) and the Australian summer, with regular heatwaves of over 40 degrees, hasn’t kicked into top gear yet. So, to keep the ballgirls of Australia ‘safe’ from Covid, we frogmarch vaxx heretics like Djokovic out of the country (and prevent the other Unclean from entering shops) whilst squirting experimental goo into the young ‘uns arms and watch on like stunned mullets, failing to connect any dots, as they fall prostrate on the sidelines of… Read more »

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

I believe that under their ideology his presence in Oz might put off people from having the “vaccines”, and never mind the record “case levels in some highly “vaccinated” countries, and the various caveats (see my post below).
I wonder if mortality will continue to shoot up in Australia, and what lessons we can draw?
Wasn’t there an actual case in Australia where some chlldren were rounded up and “vaccinated”? So many horrors happening that it gets hard to keep track of them all.

Phil Shannon
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Yes, the three judges who upheld the government’s decision to cancel Novak’s visa, agreed that the Minister for Immigration has extraordinarily wide discretionary powers to evict any visitor on pretty well any grounds. They did not address the substantive merits of the case (immunity, virus transmission, informed consent, etc) but simply said that the Minister could do what he liked and if he believed that Novak would be a lightning rod to the unvaxxed and insufficiently-boosted then that was grounds enough to send Novak home.

And, yes, it is hard to keep up with the Oz madness. The mass jabathon of young school kids, parental consent optional, was held a few months ago in Sydney at a Revival-style tent gathering.

I’m sure there are more horrors in store and no lines in the sand to be seen. That’s the beauty of Mass Formation Psychosis, for you

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

I mentioned yesterday that the final legal ruling in Australia merely confirmed that the Minister acted within the law, not that his decision was right or wrong.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

When the law is ‘the minister can do whatever he/she likes’ it’s a wonder they needed a hearing to confirm it.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

the Minister for Immigration has extraordinarily wide discretionary powers to evict any visitor on pretty well any grounds

Bearing in mind the suggestion here the other day that all that is required to be a liberal democracy is acting within the law and allowing voters to replace leaders they don’t like, it’s worth noting how easy it is to remain within the law when the law is written to give such wide powers.

I remain of the view that Australia can still be regarded as a democracy, albeit the managed kind that we are now used to in the US sphere, but it is not remotely liberal in the English sense of that word (as opposed to the American usage of liberal, meaning leftist)..

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

If democracy is that every few years you get to vote some people into power and then anything they do is “the democratic will of the people”, regardless of whether any of what they are doing came up during the election or not, well then, yes, I suppose Australia, Britain, France, etc are all democracies.

But that is a farcical definition of democracy.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I disagree, I think it’s a perfectly legitimate definition of democracy.

I think your problem with it here might be that you want to implicitly include other things in the definition, to make democracy inherently good.

I see democracy as merely a descriptive term for a for of governance, without inherent moral value. It might well be “the worst form of government apart from all the others”, and it’s to be judged by its results not worshiped for its supposed inherent moral force.

A tyranny of the majority is definitely a “democracy”.

Australia, Britain, France, etc are all democracies.”

Imo these countries are best regarded as “managed constitutional democracies”, rather than liberal democracies which they no longer can claim to be, really.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

‘A tyranny of the majority is definitely a “democracy”.

With the greatest of respect that is abject claptrap; if democracy is truly a “system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives” – other definitions to fit ones prejudices are available, without reference to how you define “majority”, it cannot be denied that the UK like other parliamentary systems, gets its legitimacy (?) from a minority of voters and not from the “whole population” or a majority thereof.

Voting should be mandatory, in person or by very few allowed proxy situations, no postal votes; you might then still not have a democracy, but for those who spoil their votes there can be no argument. No UK Government post war has been anything other than a minority one, with the majority of the population voting for someone else or not at all.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

Nothing I wrote implied any requirement for any particular percentage of the population to vote, so long as all adults are entitled to vote.

abject claptrap

That’s the spirit! A nice bit of “robust assertion”.

[See my comment further down]

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

So we weren’t a democracy before women (and working class men) were allowed to vote? Or 18-20 year olds for that matter. I’ll check my Harmsworth…

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

So does our UK Home Secretary

“Not conducive to the public good”.

Many ‘right wing extremists’ have been recently excluded by both labour and tory administrations on those grounds; I’m surprised they didn’t use it against Jordan Peterson.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

I particularly enjoyed that ‘stunned mullets’ bit. Thank you for that.

Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

bit like this stunned mullet – magnificent!

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“The lie of Hugh of Lincoln”. (Unherd).

Should presumably read the “life” of (St.) Hugh of Lincoln. He defended Jews. Yes, there is a long history of anti-semitism, including in England, and continuing to this day (and including anti-Zionism when you consider the historical context, as I have noted before). But there has also been a long history of people standing up for oppressed minorities, continued today by the likes of Novak.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

No.The article is referring to a story, often dubbed ‘the blood libel’, in which a Christian child is kidnapped by local Jews, refuses to abjure his faith, and is then tortured and murdered by the Jews. The child is subsequently canonised. ‘Little Saint Hugh’ is the Lincoln version. Another notorious version is William of Norwich.
This disgusting folktale was, of course, used to whip up hatred and violence against Jews among nasty, gullible people, while selling the ‘saint’s’ tomb as a place of pi,grinage.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_Saint_Hugh_of_Lincoln

The blood libel spread from England to the continent, A noble gift indeed.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Yet more proof about the lie zipping around the world before the truth has its pants on?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Ah yes, I remember now.

Star
4 years ago

SAGE expert says UK to have ‘flu-type’ relationship with Covid by 2023”… Mike Tildesley, from the University of Warwick, said he expects even milder variants than Omicron to emerge over the course of the year and bolster the UK’s wall of immunity, reports the Mail.

The Mail doesn’t report any reason that Tildesley might have for believing his dimwitted prediction. It’s not as if he claims access to classified reports on 20 years of biowar research into creating, deploying, and defending against SARS variants, for example.

On a human level I can’t stop feeling pity when a fellow human being embarrasses himself in this way. Does he actually like getting his name in print in the Heil, even if he comes across as a fool to anyone who can analyse stuff, criticise stuff, use basic logic, and form an idea of what areas of knowledge might be relevant to something?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

There’s that phrase again, “wall of immunity”, originally used for the “vaccine” propaganda, and never mind that we saw higher “covid” deaths for several months in the second half of 2021 than at the same time in 2020, and that it’s not clear if lower deaths more recently came from increased natural immunity and a milder variant, or the “vaccines” (and it will be interesting to see what happens in Australia in the next few weeks, they are already seeing their highest weekly mortality rate, including their highest daily figure today (18th January – 74 compared to 59 previously)).

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Non experts here and elswhere were predicting that Covid would evolve itself to become fairly harmless over the course of 18 months to two years or so for the past 18 months to two years or so because that’s what viruses generally do.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Replacing Shakespeare and Einstein with Mandela and Angelou” Telegraph – yet again!).

I know “terrorist” Mandela may be important, but that is just ridiculous (although they might do courses about the modern “vaccine” apartheid). Like studying Mozart’s sister instead of more serious composers.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

As for Angelou, she’s a mediocre writer whose self-indulgent autobiographical maunderings are forced down children’s throats because the author has the conclusive merits of being female and black.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

A few lightyears off-topic?   Or am I?   Lou Reed: ‘Plucked her eyebrows on the wayShaved her legs and then he was a sheShe says, “Hey, babe Take a walk onthe wild side”’   I mean, I could link to any one of the headlines in the above main article, and it would bring you to a news article that is provenanced on something more out of the ordinary than what Lou Reed sings about.   Anyway, over the last two years most of us have been forced to take a walk on the wild side. The ball they have set rolling has now stalled a little, much as a snowball coming down a hill slows in a temporary hollow.   But, don’t doubt it, this ball that has been set off is going to reach the edge of the hollow very soon, and start rolling again. And as it rolls, it’s going to get bigger, just like it has over the last two years.   The only question is, will it be the meek and humble who firmly believe that Bill Gates’ Big Pharma means no harm that gives this ball the sustenance to enlarge, or will it… Read more »

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

You omitted:
In the back room, she was everybody’s darlin’

Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

and shaving your legs doesn’t alter your chromosomes

bennyboy
bennyboy
4 years ago

Its not over till vaccine passports are outlawed.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  bennyboy

AND THE FACE PANTS COME OFF. FOR EVER.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And testing and isolation ends permanently

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Nah, the fetish is here to stay I reckon. Hopefully not compulsory though.
Imagine if Bavaria made Lederhosen compulsory!

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

There seems to be some confusion here. The issue is not about whether or not they apologise. The issue is that their lockdown mandates and gene therapy policies killed hundreds of thousands of people, including pregnant women and children. The Government and its advisors have demonstrably committed crimes against humanity and must stand trial for it to ensure it never happens again.

Annie
4 years ago

The UChicago letter definitely is worth reading in full.
Particularly interesting is the fact that medical staff are exempt from the triple-perforation requirement.

Mogwai
4 years ago

The Florida article is interesting. An obvious reason for the disparity in high vax/high positive “case” states and the low ones is that it’s a reflection of the level of paranoia and fear of the citizens that live there. The lower vax rate states will consist of more people who do not run out for a test at a mere sniffle or they don’t have a cupboard full of LFTs because they now do a test as part of their daily routine, like brushing their teeth. They are a much more pragmatic and grounded population who are not governed by the fear porn and propaganda. As we know, more testing=higher positive results. More of these type of analyses would be interesting in other countries too I think. The idiotic mass testing has to stop. It’s obviously the driver of this whole debacle and subsequent restrictions being implemented.

stewart
4 years ago

I don’t remember hearing Portillo criticise lockdowns in March 2020. Or in March 2021 for that matter.

The only voice I remember hearing and for which I will always be grateful was Peter Hitchens’.

All the critics of lockdowns coming out now are the same sheep they were 2 years ago. It’s just that they see the herd moving in a new direction.

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Lots of Lockdown enthusiasts now claiming they were against it all along.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The Telegraph and Portillo are recent converts but don’t want to admit as much.
I’m reminded that 98% of French citizens were ‘in the Resistance’, as we only discovered after the hositilities were over.

HelzBelz
4 years ago

lots of comments re trials for all involved in promoting the insane policies of the last 20 months. Whilst I don’t believe the lawyers will save us, they being as corrupt as the politicians, does anyone know what’s happening with the Reiner Fuellmich case and also where Mark Sexton is at..?

NonCompliant
4 years ago

Feels like an awful lot of rats are now trying to sneak off HMS Covid and hope nobody recalls their two years of silence, compliance and utter servitude.

As the saying goes, never forget.

ImpObs
4 years ago

‘The origin of the issue was restrictions that I believe were
unnecessary, that were inhumane, that were cruel… it’s extraordinary
these restrictions were brought in, within a democratic society.’Michael Portillo on Covid restrictions in the UK

I was going to say a day late and a dollar short.

It’s really 2 years late and £BIllions short.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  ImpObs

It’s difficult to say what you mean while being dazzled by your own shirt, as Michael would point out.

John
4 years ago

I would like to make my position clear. I do not agree with making any vaccine or other medical intervention compulsory for anyone.
This is an individual’s decision to make, based on their own risk assessment.
Based on this premise, I am unhappy, shall we say, with some of the comments on here.
Those of you who are not going to have the “vaccination” against SARS-CoV-2 insist that your choice is acknowledged, yet at the same time you are aggressively dismissive of and berate those who have made their choice to have the injections.
This is as bad as those who have had the injections and are aggressively dismissive of and berate those who refuse.
Both viewpoints are equally destructive and divisive, “we’re right you’re wrong” helps no one.
Yes there are absolutely valid reasons for not taking the vaccination, particularly in the younger age ranges, risk > benefits, and I certainly would not encourage anyone in those groups to have the vaccination, particularly children, but it still remains an individual’s choice.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  John

based on their own risk assessment.

I’d hesitate to assert that as something that has been widespread.
If nothing else, covid has given us a new meaning for ‘blind trust’.

John
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I was applying it to the general principal, but do agree about the blind trust aspect for SARS-CoV-2

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  John

The difference here is between moral approval/disapproval and coercion. We agree that it is wrong to coerce taking the “vaccines”. We agree that it should be up to the individual to decide, with access to as full and honest info as possible. That imo is what is the required minimum for civilised men. Beyond that is the question of whether or not there is any moral (not legally enforced) requirement to either take or not take the “vaccine”. It is important not to forget this important distinction – the law it is said is not congruent with morality, in a free society. People are free to do things that others view as wrongful, but not harmful or wrongful enough to justify coercion. One of the constant problems with human societies is that there is a natural tendency to forget that and to try to build societies in which everything those in power view as in the slightest wrongful is also illegal – that is what zealots always want. That is the path being travelled by the politically correct (woke) left. Most here who say that people “should not” take the “vaccines” are, I believe, making a moral “should not” point… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Re “aggressive dismissal” and politeness about opinions one dislikes and towards people who advocate for them, I do recognise that there is a place for it. Robust assertion clearly can put off people who are sensitive to it. I just think the onus to manage the situation is as much on the overly sensitive as on the overly robust, however, if we want to avoid tedium.

scaredmama
scaredmama
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Many of the people I know who have been jabbed were lied to and were terrorised and abused into accepting it. I am very lucky in that most of my acquaintance felt that I had a right to make my own way, although they also felt I was mistaken and several of them were genuinely worried about me. But there were one or two who were brutal in their condemnation of my choices, and they were the ones who, in my opinion, had both the education and opportunity to ‘do their own research’. Even now, I am absolutely certain that if I mentioned anything about this on FB I would be attacked. I don’t dare to speak, because I don’t yet know how 1984 this is going to get, and I don’t trust people anymore. I have a child to protect. So for now, I keep silent, but my anger is immense, my fear is terrible. If we are so lucky as to escape this trap, I will try very hard to be charitable. But there are one or two people who will no longer be my friends, though curiously they don’t seem to have noticed yet.

iane
iane
4 years ago

It seems that I have been misspelling Bozo for years: mea culpa. It should, of course, be Boozo!

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

WO no, “Michael Portillo on Covid restrictions in the UK.” I don’t like his idea of a solution, giving politicians more protection! If as is claimed the problem is the MSM then that’s what you must fix. I don’t believe MSM took their line on their own, they’ve been pushing political fear porn from day one.

But yes multinational lockstep press corporations pushing a neoliberal ideology are to blame, they need breaking up. Alternative journalists are more impartial & independent, than “fact checking” shills like the DM & Guardian who’s only function is to defend a political ideology.

The problem is globalist corporate neoliberalism, giving politicians even greater protection will only compound the problem. You CAN NOT defend freedom by giving protected minorities rights. Consequences are the only protection from tyranny.

dearieme
dearieme
4 years ago

it will be important not to let anger run riot”: au contraire, matey, it will be entirely healthy to let people freely punish the malefactors.

dopamineboy
dopamineboy
4 years ago

Here’s more info on the sham 270 attacking Joe Rogan and Rolling Stone’s biased coverage – https://mauihawaiitheworld.wordpress.com/2022/01/14/why-does-rolling-stone-spread-misinformation-about-covid-and-vaccines/