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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Civil rights group’s alarm at government Djokovich case”.(The Age).

All those Serbian Australians on GB views the other day who thought that the rule of law applied in Australia,, only to find it doesn’t after all. What an utter disgrace!

How is Australia (or Holland and too many other “liberal democracies” for that matter) different from Hong Kong now?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I’m still surprised, or perhaps not, at the casual dismissal of pro-Djokovich supporters at an early stage of the proceedings as just

Anti-vaxxers and Serbs”

which is surely a bit racist innit ?

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

As always the BIG picture view is what counts Karen…

So gentleman Roger a stalwart WEF Young Global Leader since 2010, and his buddy Nadal stand shoulder to shoulder with global overlord and health expert Gates.

Dial in that the Australian health minister is also a nominated WEF Young Leader and a former WEF strategy director, kinda neatly sums up why the photo below [Feb 2020] reveals how Novak was politically shafted the way he was.

Djokovic’s in the wrong club, the one that still thinks my body, my choice is sacrosanct.

gates-federer-nadal-noah-february-2020-cut.png
Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

No conspiracy here, just the malevolence of Australian populism, combined with Branch Covidian cultist theatre.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

I doubt very much ND subscribes to that dishonest slogan as it’s usually taken to mean.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

How did their political views work for these guys ?

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Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Must we wait for the knife at our throat before we wake up to totalitarianism?
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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

Indeed, that’s how it usually works. “First they came for the Jews and I did nothing because I wasn’t a Jew”. What have we got today? “Anti-vaxxers”; Serbs; Jews (still); “TERFs”; climate “deniers”; Darwin sceptics. And many more. The world isn’t any less prejudiced. But people still are drawn to the powerful fantasy that their age is the best, wisest, most civilised etc.

Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

CS Lewis called it ‘chronological snobbery’.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Dame Lynet

I thought that was owning a flash Rolex?

Mumbo Jumbo
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Is there any other sort of Rolex?

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Mumbo Jumbo

Rolex probably don’t think so, but I’ve seen a few examples that looked more like those small training weights you can have on your wrist.

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Rolex….? Nah who’d wear that crap… its gotta be Breguet innit if anchored off the Côte d’Azur on a beach-club transom…. just saying.

watersider
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Ah but Hugh, look on the bright side – the lying beeb may be refunded soon – some time – maybe!

watersider
4 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Stupid speller predictor DEFUNDED!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  watersider

Annoying ain’t it 🙄

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  watersider

“Some time”.

Back to Rolex! 🙂

Phil Shannon
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Well, they finally got their quarry, didn’t they. The Full Bench of three monkeys on the Federal Court (only Australia’s High Court is higher) ruled that the Federal Government acted fairly in cancelling Djokovic’s visa yet the crux of the government’s Orwellian case was to accuse Novak of WrongThink. The government conceded that Djokovic had naturally-acquired immunity from prior infection and that, consequently, he posed “as low a risk as, or a lower risk than, any vaccinated entrant to Australia” (the government’s own words) and outdoor sports events are not ‘super-spreader’ events (“the risk of a transmission event related to the Australian open is very low”). The Immigration Minister said that “I have given consideration to the fact that Mr Djokovic is a high profile unvaccinated individual, who has indicated publicly that he is opposed to becoming vaccinated against Covid (which for convenience I refer to as “anti-vaccination”).’ This is an astonishing admission, meaning that it has become illegal to enter Australia if you question the necessity, efficacy or safety of the Covid vaxx (or any other vaccine). The ‘threat’ posed by Djokovic had nothing to do with spreading the actual virus but for being high-profile and having the wrong opinions on… Read more »

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Its not just Australian media, its fairly universal. Djokovic represens a threat, simple as that.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

A purely political one – not a public health threat

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

As I understand it this final decision merely confirms that the Minister acted within his powers, not that his decision was correct

In the long run this will prove to be disastrous for the way the Australian administration ran with this affair.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

“Make Orwell fiction again”!

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

One of the most shocking elements of this whole shambles, how Melbourne, one of the most livable cities in the world, has now become an utter nightmare

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Obviously should read GB News not GB views!

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Juliet Stevenson – some Shakespeare plays should be buried” (The Telegraph).

Ah, the new Bowdlerism! All those people who used to mock Mary Whitehouse (who turned out to have a point, it seems) and now we have a new woke religion more censorious than she ever was. Perhaps those comedians at the BBC might like to take aim at it (or perhaps not…).

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Can’t read because paywall but if she goes on to criticize The Merchant Of Venice for anti-semitism she is, as usual, missing the point entirely.

On a lighter note; some 10 years ago I (allegedly) downloaded the whole of Dads Army Series’ 5 & 6 (co-defendant W. Gates CEO Microsoft and YouTube).

Imagine my horror when replaying it recently at being subjected to Private Pikey reciting unexpurgated

“Eeny meeny miney mo,
Catch a ‘person of color’ by the toe”

I was so shocked hearing the “N” word I had to replay it just to make sure. I have no idea which version is still available via Amazon, BBC Iplayer or whatever.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I must admit I didn’t realise for a long time that it was meant to be “catch a teacher”. Maybe things are different in London though.
(And that’s nothing against London, a city I know and love, but it’s a bit of a different place to where I grew up).

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus
karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Thanks, I guessed correctly about them misrepresenting Merchant of Venice where the whole point is that anti-semitism I’d unacceptable.
I learned that in drama class at school.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

the whole point is that anti-semitism is unacceptable.

I love MoV and have been in it. But I think you are oversimplifying both the play and Stevenson’s point.

Like most Shakespeare plays you can play it all sorts of ways. But any attempt to reduce it to a moralising message about anti-semitism – whether is unacceptable or not – is essentially a distraction from its exploration of revenge, justice, mercy and the role of the law (among other things). I think Stevenson’s point is that our present day reaction to anti-semitism, especially in the light of the holocaust, makes it extremely hard to stage without antisemitism dominating our view of the play – which it would not have done in the 16th Century. Note that she doesn’t say it should not be staged. She says “The Merchant of Venice is extremely challenging too because of Shylock. The anti-Semitism is inescapable.” She is clearly right about that. It includes a lot of anti-semitic language and behaviour and somehow you have to get beyond that to the core of the play.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

The problem is that you now have a situation where the term such as ‘anti-semitism’ has been stripped of meaning as certain groups have weaponized it to attack perfectly legitimate views that they don’t like.

It’s a process of devaluation that sickens the stomach of anyone who knows their history, and you can end up with the situation seen currently in the Labour Party where the term is used mainly to attack jews who oppose the establishment/Starmer line.

Bluntly – the Mengele supporters of coerced vaccination and totalitarianism in general are most likely the ones seen to be using using the weaponized term.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

You’re not wrong, but most who see those issues carefully avoid seeing how terms like “racism”, “homophobia” and “islamophobia” have been misused in the same ways, by various interest groups.

artfelix
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You can say “nigger” you know – it’s not a magic word with a horcrux on it and you won’t get hickies. The term “N-word” is infantilising.

Don’t use it as an insult or a casual act of racism, obviously – but in the context of an adult discussion about the use of the word don’t pander to the infantilism of wokesim by joining in their baby talk.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

I’ve never actually been called (to my face) an ofay or a honky, but if I were, I’d feel more amused than dehumanised.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

“Ofay” ?

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Seen it in books and heard it in the occasional (American) movie. Apparently, it is a mocking version of ‘au fait’ which for some reason is associated with pale-skinned usage.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Thank you, clear as mud!
Worst I’ve been called to my face is ‘rass claat’ which I belief to be a reference to female periods and white blood. Dunno why?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

My wording from “imagine my horror . . .” was intended to mock the infantilising nature of what is considered to be acceptable these days but I thought only Black People could say Nigger in polite society these days.

artfelix
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Fair enough.

It is cringe-inducing when adults say “N-word”. People should either not say anything or say the actual word. There is something inherently creepy in the baby-adult language and logic of wokeism.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

When did it become a swear word exactly anyway? There’s children’s books from the 30’s or 40’s that contain the word before it became a bit toxic..

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Clearly still acceptable when Dads Army series 5-7 (original post) was produced, 1970s? Even at the BBC.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Apparently you can listen to grime music full of this stuff but are not actually allowed to say the word that occurs in the lyrics. Woke can be a bit byzantine sometimes.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

Live here in Thailand and the word is used frequently to describe a bar I go to cos it’s all black. The hookers love them as it makes the girls look pale

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

I seem to remember Gervais retelling how he had worked with her and she was several miles up herself (I’m paraphrasing somewhat).
I don’t know whether it’s worse with British luvvies than it is with the others, but they seem to think that what they do is much more serious than ‘entertainment’.
Presumably, la Stevenson with want Julius Caesar cancelled in case it encourages a series of stabbings of balding Italian men during March?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I didn’t realise the intestines were that long!

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Gove and co. are bringing the play to a modern setting as we speak.

Mark
4 years ago

“BBC warns Nadine Dorries will plunge it into a ‘spiral of decline’ by declaring end to licence fee” – War of words with Culture Secretary as sources accuse her of ‘profoundly damaging’ the corporation, reports the Telegraph. The BBC has been particularly bad during this covid panic, but it’s been equally appalling pushing climate alarmism, and the reality is that it has been engaging in propagandist social engineering for the leftists for half a century now. It can’t be reformed because it is in the nature of cultural institutions to be captured by leftists (this is an aspect of Robert Conquest’s 2nd law of politics: “any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing“), and the problem with the BBC is the added, undeserved credibility it carries as a supposedly neutral (believe it or not, there are still a lot of people who think this and absorb its output more or less uncritically) “national broadcaster”. If the contemptible Dorries and the “Conservative” Party were actually conservative they would get the BBC broken up and sold off before the next election. It’s the only way to properly drive a stake through its heart. Any fiddling around with funding models will just… Read more »

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I don’t know, Margaret Thatcher refused to try and privatise the postal service (unlike “Sir” Anthony) or the NHS, at least in part because she knew the public wouldn’t accept it. I suspect they will always have an eye to what they think they can get away with electorally, and would not do some things even if they believed in them.

On the climate scare, I seem to remember some years back that biofuel crops caused a shortage of some foods in Mexico. I wonder if the BBC reported that? It’s about time that they behaved like proper journalists rather than a political party.

And it’s more than half a century now, they were involved in some terribly underhand behaviour in the 1967 business.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The BBC never report on any of the numerous worldwide ecological and societal horror stories about the unintended consequences of ‘going green’.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Like people getting ill producing (or breaking) those mercury filled energy saving lightbulbs?

DS99
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Yes heat and mercury are a deadly combination. It’s the vapours that are so toxic.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Like Borneo and Madagascar being stripped of rainforests to produce sisal plantations with which to produce bio-degradable packaging for the West.

Like vast area of the Andes and The Congo being stripped bare in the search for cobalt and nickel to allow the west to drive electric cars. Mining done in the direst conditions by the worlds poorest people.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Long wondered why environmentalists are hell bent on destroying the planet

viz.

https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2022/01/16/sunnica-solar-farm/

Risk of explosions and toxic gasProfessor Wade Allison, emeritus professor of physics at Oxford University, and a panel of experts last year warned that with the potential for huge explosions, fires and clouds of toxic gas, they could devastate towns and villages nearby.”

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

We have an out of town 10k living unit development ( you wouldn’t call them houses) whose power is solely from a nearby energy plant that is supposedly powered by industry wood offcuts.

In fact the wood used is low grade timber imported from China/Korea and I’ve seen evidence that it is harvested by prison slave labour. Then transported at least 20 miles by road.
The energy is expensive for residents and there is no opportunity to switch supplier.

Education is provides in a single institution 3yo to 17yo and they expect students to emerge as fully rounded individuals. Lol.

Place is as grim as a 1960s Leeds council estate, Cathy Come Home, Z Cars.

watersider
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

10% of England’s energy comes from Drax power station in Yorkshire. It is fuelled by timber clear felled in the Southern United States, turned into pellets, transported to England and set on fire.
Drax sits on top of a 300 year coal supply.
This is to save the “planet” from global warming as the burning only produces “good” Carbon dioxide.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  watersider

All those diesel trains I see taking wood for Drax when they could get fuel virtually on site! And those trains are only a small part of the journey.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Don’t forget the palm oil plantations destroying the habitat of many animals,birds and insects reptiles also

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You forgot to downtick me this time ? 😀

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I don’t usually comment on this but it did seem like someone downticked every message this morning for some reason. It takes all sorts…

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

If it damages the agenda it is no longer news. Sounds like a media version of Reverend Lovejoy out of The Simpsons (“if it is legal, it is no longer immoral”).

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

And Ecuador’s balsa forests stripped to supply wind turbine blades.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

That’s a new one for me, I’ll take a look, thanks.

DS99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Like the massive amounts of concrete used to underpin wind turbines causing both a diversion to the way rainwater ran down the hillside and preventing it from soaking into the ground on a hillside north of Rochdale. The unsual flooding on Boxing Day several years ago in a village in the valley was of course originally put down to climate change … which indirectly it was, I guess.

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago
Reply to  DS99

As we learnt at the beginning of the covid saga, the government had no intention of having any impact assessment(s) made to ascertain collateral damage to the economy, other health issues, etc etc. It just went ahead regardless, in its usual tunnel-vision Bomber Harris blast-the-enemy manner. The same scenario can be seen in all these hypocritical and damaging measures they take to ‘save the planet’. Also, the roll-out of G5 and all the microwave radiations involved in that – with its potential to damage not just us but many other life forms.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  beornwulf

Bomber command does get a bad press, but it would have been harder to win the war without their efforts (probably impossible in fact) against an evil regime.

I’m undecided about G5 (although someone did warn me about radiation from microwave ovens|), however ,it doe seem to me wrong to bombard people with radiation without their consent. What is the actual need anyway?

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I contacted them yesterday to ask why there were NO reports of deaths and adverse reactions from the clotshots, given that they now amount to more that ALL previous vaxxes caused.

MHRA say 1900 dead from vaxxes, and not that they think that at most, 10% of fatalities are recorded. So close 20,000 dead. 2009 Swine ‘Flu killer jab (kudos once more to Neil Ferguson for bringing this about) was stopped after 49 deaths.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Not sure what this was a response to Jeremy 😯

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Good point nonetheless!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Can’t really comment on the BBC as I haven’t watched it for fifteen years but I did catch half an hour of their Breakfast programme on Freeview from my hospital bed (captive audience) just before Christmas.

It happened to be the day after Bozo announced that he would not be introducing any further lockdown restrictions but they managed to spend that entire 30 minutes, possibly longer, making this ‘news’ and bad news at that.

I’d sell it to Fox News for a tenner.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’d give it to Fox News if I could enjoy watching all those little BBC faces for ten minutes afterward.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“spiral of decline”?

That moment long ago passed…

artfelix
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes, the BBC has singularly failed in its supposed remit to be impartial and has now come to the end of its useful life. It is wholly bought into a single political and social viewpoint from top to bottom and can’t be fixed so must be shut down. The sooner the better.

Watney
Watney
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I was foolish enough to catch a little of Today on Radio 4 this morning and stripping the BBC of the funds from the licence tax was discussed but, as usual, they could find no way to make it subscription through the aerial.
Why, oh why, have they never noticed the conditional access slot at the back of their TV?
Put there because in some countries that’s how they have a subscription-based service!
Part of the fake debate is that there’s no way to make it subscription without it becoming a streamer like Netflix, and yet there is.
Part of the smokescreen!

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Watney

To paraphrase a well known aphorism, it’s hard to make some people see things that it’s in their interests not to see.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

And yet, if Nadine Dorries is as good as her word and the licence fee is scrapped in 2027 [should I hold my breath??] elderly people whose fuel bills are literally sky rocketing as I type will have had to pay out almost £800 (assuming the fee is held at £159 – which is only guaranteed for 2 years) from their pensions.

These people have no idea how ordinary people live, never mind care.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Make drastic ammends for anything tainted by racism or colonialism”.

But still make the “unvaxxed” second class citizens (and buy everything from the neocolonialist (and apparently racist) CPR). The fact is, England was plagued by raids from the Barbary coast at one time. My ancestor helped to free some of them. If Britain hadn’t done whatever it could to become stronger, it would have risked being colonised by others.

And I might add that racism got significantly worse after 1859, but these people never seem to notice…

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Slavery and Capitalism do not make good bedfellows so it was merely happenstance that Colonialist proto Capitalist Britain was the worlds first superpower when it became economically advantageous to use that power to begin abolishing slavery worldwide.

Abolition of slavery was, of course, wokely fashionable on many levels both secular and religious. Georgian Ladies of Leisure were able to serve guests their sugar from containers etched with

“Sugar supplied entirely from non Slave producers”.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It was closer than most think.

At one time Christendom (itself still using slavery to a degree) consisted of little more than the inland areas of Italy, France and Germany, parts of Britain and a foothold in northern Spain.

The north Mediterranean coasts were deserted from fear of Islamic slave raids, all of its islands conquered, Rome plundered.
Moors beset Christian lands in northern Spain the south of France, Italy and the Balkans.
The Vikings terrorised all of northern Europe to the gates of Paris while waves of barbarians rolled in from the east as far as central Germany.

A betting man would not have given Christendom much of a chance.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I read that the Monguls could have easily have overrun Europe at one time, if they had not been forced to return home to deal with domestic matters. There but for the grace of God…

Incidentally, I wonder how much of Christendom would have been left if things had gone differently in 1940.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Islam suffered far more from the Mongols than Christianity, except the Russians

All their leaders had to return home to settle the succession of the Great Khan and never came back..

Their much reduced force was eventually turned back by an army from Egypt but that army was of Mameluke slaves, recruited ironically from Slavic lands now Ukraine.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

You are suggesting that more than a remnant survives at present?

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It’s believed as many as a million white Christians from coastal towns all around Europe were enslaved by our Islamic friends. Taken from ports in England and Ireland for example. Guess Islamic slavery is ok.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

They got as far as Iceland at least once.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

And religious orders were founded whose mission was to offer members as ransom for the captive Christian laity.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 1. SAGE Scenarios an update:
Spectator.

SAGE gets it spectacularly wrong yet again so Boris is a hero for ignoring them for once even though they try to shift the blame by introducing LSCHTM with their overly complicated graphs that nobody will read.

“Reduced severity” in italics as though their original idea despite South Africa pointing it out weeks ago when they first announced Omnicon.

Worse still bozo is more of a hero for pre-Xmas promoting Booster Programme which in reality was trying to avoid flushing zillions of Covid doses down the lav because nobody wanted them.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 2. Boris Johnson gets cosy with Civil Servant Sue Barker in damager limitation exercise over Xmas garden party No.10 work meeting. Telegraph.

Not worth reading at all.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 3 Boris Johnson gets cosy with Ministers because nobody really gives a toss about Partygate especially not Conservative voters but January is a quiet news month. Telegraph.

Not worth reading at all.

Mac57
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Someone I know works in the constituency office of a Minister. They have had an avalanche of emails over the weekend (ca 500), mostly from members, and by far the majority want Boris gone.

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Mac57

Andrew Bridgen MP (Tory) said something similar this evening (Monday) on Farage, GB News.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mac57

To be replaced by whom ?

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 4. Players rally around “legend” Novax Djokovic. Telegraph.

Which is why none of them has pulled out in protest or, as the Observer put it yesterday, “Djokovivs vaccine stance leaves him short of support from fellow players”.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 6. “Djokovic case proves Aus. Zero Covid unsustainable” Telegraph.

Australian and New Zealand Zero Covid policies were always unsustainable as began to be proved some weeks ago when cases and mortality started to increase as they were always going to since you can’t keep out a pathogen indefinitely (environmental aspects aside).

Nothing whatsoever to do with Novak Djokovic though doubtless there will be some who try to blame him entirely as relatively mild Omnicon sweeps the country leaving trails of runny noses and panicked politicians in its wake.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 7 “The Death of Science” Daily Express

Prof Angus Dalgleish claims to have been shut down by peers for stating that Covid escaped from a lab. He claims to be the victim of s “disgusting whitewash” similar to those suffered by Copernicus and Galileo

Hardly, here he is all over the Daily Express with a story that has been bouncing back and forth ever since Covid was first heard of with full details of everything supposedly suppressed.

Just last week there were allegations that claiming Covid came from a Chinese lab would, could, might “hurt Chinese science” which itself got renewed headlines all over the world.

Now and again we read WHO/WEF/CIA or whoever “lab escape claim just conspiracy theory” which again results in days of press speculation.

The public know the answer, the only question is the degree of culpability.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Is he Scottish by any chance? 🙂

A strange world where we mustn’t hurt Chinese science (can’t jeopardise Fauci’s gain of function research now), but we also have to avoid coal, unless it is needed to manufacture all those Chinese products we buy (it would never do if we had low cost energy in the UK and deprived Chinese companies of business)..

karenovirus
4 years ago

Nine out of sixteen Roundup stories today are from the Daily Telegraph, a paper I stopped buying in March 2020 when it went all covid/lockdown crazy.
I expect they are on a similar level with vaccines.

If DS think I’m going to relax my boycott of the Telegraph (including digital subscription) they can think again.

Ta for previous hints but I have yet to find a way of cheating their paywall from an Android keyboard

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

https://archive.vn will ease all your paywall problems. I wouldn’t pay a penny for any newspaper, except maybe to read reports on City winning the title again 😉

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Thanks, I’ll give it a shot. Android doesn’t allow for saved pages or favourites though. I only keep track of DS and few others by having them permanently “last visited”

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

it does, the star icon in the menu is to bookmark the page.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

* 《that star?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

Thank you, I don’t generally use Chrome but that is certainly worth following up.

A passerby
A passerby
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

On an android mobile phone, try turning off js. If only tapping a button could rid us of politicians so easily.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 8. “Senior nurses must retire or lose their pensions after working Covid Wards”. Telegraph. Probably inaccurate (pensions delayed more likely) and nothing to do with Covid, Telegraph might just as well have blamed it on working the cancer ward. However, this is how the NHS appreciated their experienced staff as Covid initially threatened to “Overwhelm The NHS” back in Match 2020. Lady I know had recently retired from the NHS on a full career pension. As Covid loomed she gamely responded to calls to Return To Nursing to help with the emergency and, after a couple of weeks ‘retraining’, was content to be placed in relatively undemanding roles as required. She lives somewhat out of town but was told that staff parking would be free in the otherwise empty car parks as there were no patients to clutter them up and she was, after all, doing them a favour. As things eased and a few managers returned to their offices this arrangement was declared unsatisfactory and so my friend would be required to pay for staff parking as usual. As things eased further management reintroduced the rule whereby staff could only use the staff car park 2 or 3… Read more »

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Have you read Appendix 2 on the Sceptic? Do. It’s perhaps the piece of writing that has made me angry more than any other this past couple of years. And boy, have I been angry.

https://staging.dailysceptic.org/interview-with-a-registered-nurse/

karenovirus – I’m enjoying your posts hugely. Thanks 🙂

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Thank you, I was in the mood this morning, I’m not always 😀👍

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

I remember reading that at the time. I don’t know where ‘Jessica’ works but it could easily be my local major regional hospital.

Throughout lockdown one I would encounter hospital staff regularly and their comments were very similar starting with the initial fear ( as managers deserted them to WFH, possibly no great loss).

They could make their own observations that they were not the prime victim group but they were afraid of taking Covid home to granny. For that reason some chose to live in dingy condemned student nurses accommodation for weeks and months.

Her comments about the otherwise empty hospitals match those made to me and from my own many visits to use the loo (most other WCs being closed because covid). Empty reception areas, empty corridors, empty loos!
No ambulances outside.

A 100 bed stand alone department was given over to covid; max 80 patients over first Easter gradually down to a dozen by summer then 2 or 3 during Tiers.

Eye Hospital and Oncology cleared for Covid but never used. Likewise nearby Nuffield comandeered but stayed empty.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 9 “land may be seized to make way for solar farms in net zero drive”. Telegraph.

Provision for this was already in place before Net Zero was announced. It comes under compulsory purchase orders for the construction of national infrastructure projects such as motorways or high speed rail links (lol).

I’m not out and about as I used to be but last I heard was sensible folk were getting out of Solar Farms as they cannot be profitable without ongoing government subsidies which are always vulnerable to changing whims.

Apparently Energy Firms do not ‘take your land’, they just compulsarily rent it allowing you to continue grazing pigs beneath their sun umbrellas.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 13 “we gain nothing by destroying Peter Gills ‘beautiful’ works of art” Spectator Many are uncomfortable about having a statue featuring a naked young boy with a grown man on the front of the BBC’s Broadcasting House especially as the sculptor is said to have raped his two underage daughters and the family dog as part of his New Age wierdisms. If Gills predilictions were known about it is questionable whether it should have been commissioned in the first place but as an artwork it is no more obscene or objectionable than that of Eros in Piccadilly. If we are to object to the removal of statues of historic people on the grounds that they engaged in what are now regarded as unsavoury activities, the slave trade for example, then this surely applies to the works of people who were themselves undesirable or even criminal. Caravaggio springs to mind. Growing up I’m London I was slightly aware of the large number of statues scattered all over the place, generally of old blokes (mostly white, not that I noticed), some in uniform, some not. At worst I thought them boring although some had funny names. Is there a word for… Read more »

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Eric Gill actually.

And Marx was a rank racist. Look forward to his tomb in Highgate being erased. I put it on Khan’s online site for listing skanky statues. My entry disappeared…

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

I’ve Marxs’ observations about Negroes, not very edifying.
I would leave his tombe alone rather than sink to their level. Maybe a pair of sunglasses now and then.

Not surprised that Khan removed your skanky statue listing, but yours wasn’t the only one.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Iconoclasm is a perfectly apt word. It simply means proscribing images. Icon is the Greek word meaning image.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Thank you Susan, I’ve always associated the word with the Reformation and Iconoclastic struggles in Tsarist Russia but you are probably correct.

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

Patient walks into the doctor and says, “Doc, I saw that new ad. The one were the people with nice teeth and loose clothing are cavorting. I want to cavort. Ad said, ‘Ask your doctor about profitol.’ So I’m asking. Is it right for me? Will it clear up my condition?” The doctor answers: “Well, in a clinical trial it was shown that if you repeated that clinical trial an infinite number of times, each time the same but randomly different, and if each time you calculated a mathematical thing called a z-statistic, which assumes profitol doesn’t work, there was a four percent chance that a z-statistic in one of those repetitions would be larger in absolute value than the z-statistic they actually saw. That clear it up for you? Pardon the pun.” Patient: “You sound like you buy into that null hypothesis significance testing stuff. No. What I want to know, and I think it’s a reasonable request, is that if I take this drug am I going to get better? What’s the chance?” Doctor: “I see. Let me try to clarify that for you. In that trial, it was found a parameter in a probability model related to… Read more »

Trabant
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Ah this sounds like most of Antony Fauci’s drug trials.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Trabant

Much too strictly circumscribed to fit Fauci’s bill.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 15 British mea culpa Telegraph.

For some reason I got logged out, not going through it again so two attached

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karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Continued

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JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Very good. 10/10

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Well done for persevering despite the IT obstructions.

stewart
4 years ago

How interesting that nurses have to quit on reaching retirement age, but MPs, Peers and Royals, can continue to toil away “serving the public” into their 90s.

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

With lots of ‘expenses’ guaranteed.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

How many times have we seen such opinions in minor lefty publications and laughed “that could never happen” then ten years later . . .

I remember seeing photos of vast crowded children’s nurseries from 1960s China, baby farms really where parents deposited their offspring to spend the day toiling for the state. We laughed at those too.

John Dee
4 years ago

Am I just cynical, or did those ‘fellow tennis professionals’ wade in a mite too late with their sympathetic mumblings about Djokovic’s plight?
Have any decided that the Aussie Open is too compromised to merit competing in it, or is this just a belated attempt to look like they’re not happy Djok won’t be there to beat them?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Not a tennis fan but clearly that competition is not worth winning. All the major players could get themselves some kudos by boycotting it.
The eventual winner would just look like a twat.

chunky lafunga
chunky lafunga
4 years ago

Morning all just sharing these here for those who might be interested in some spoken word. I’m not massively into hip hop but I find these verses quite powerful and it’s nice to hear the message spread in different mediums by talented protagonists and who knows maybe shared with the right person it might make an impact.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X1A5gxJn_I&ab_channel=LUKASLION – 1984 Part 1

https://odysee.com/@lukaslion:f/1984part2:8 – 1984 Part 2

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

I can only find this one source for the story, so it’s a ‘wouldn’t surprise me if it were true’ report.
Novak Djokovic Saga Causes Refunds to Outstrip Ticket Sales at Australian Open

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

If it is true I hope to see lots of empty seats in the stands of the arenas.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

They might have done better to let him stay, come to think of it. Bread and circuses…

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

The Swiss Report is a good summary of the focus of the repression. Only treble jabbed to travel, almost complete in Europe , extending wordwide quickly.

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Thx for link. 🙂

However I’m somewhat surprised to see that the site, which is normally ultra focused on and hyper-sensitive to the use of propaganda, seems to believe without secondary sources/confirmation that the videos being posted on Twitter by Songpinganq, of life in China at the moment under various alleged quarantine and testing rules are accurate/reliable.

eg very short ostensibly secretly-filmed videos of the quarantine camps, the amateurish whipping/beating of lockdown escapees, the “testing car”, etc.

They all remind me rather vividly of those early videos supposedly smuggled out of China of people falling down in the street, people being dragged out of apartments, people being chased by officials wielding butterfly nets etc, etc.

How much of these “reports” are in fact a form of propaganda again, encouraging the world to believe that China is ( still ) reacting even more dysfunctionally “to covid” than the West?

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

“BBC warns Nadine Dorries will plunge it into a ‘spiral of decline’ by declaring end to licence fee”

It’s not going to happen, the BBC is & always was the states, greatest propaganda asset! Bozo’s just trying to boost his place in opinion polls.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

what happened to Peter Bone’s private members bill which was in HOC on Friday?

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

“Humiliated”(Really?) Djokovic returns to Serbia to a “Hero’s welcome”: Daily Mail online.
Come on, Daily Mail, make your bloody Covid minds up,you can’t have it both ways!!

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Well spotted.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

If certain Shakespeare works aren’t acceptable to audiences, they can go and see something else.

It’s many centuries too late to bother with such rubbish, Juliet Stevenson.

Susan
4 years ago

Juliet Stevenson, thou, traitor!
The incredible small-mindedness of these people!