Now They’re Redefining ‘Endemic’ to Keep the Pandemic Going On and On

Uh-oh, now they’re trying to redefine the word ‘endemic’ in a way that moves the end of the emergency even further away.

Paul Nuki, of the Telegraph‘s Gates-funded Global Health Security team, has written a piece pushing this agenda (though to be fair to Bill Gates himself, last week he said Covid is now becoming like flu, an endemic disease). Here are some excerpts, with my comments interpolated in boldface.

Christina Pagel, a Professor of Operational Research at University College London, notes that “a virus isn’t endemic just because a Government minister says it is and just because people want it to be”. [Note that Prof. Pagel is a mathematician with no medical training.]

“The current pattern of waning vaccination, new immune evasive variants, and minimal public health response seem set to doom us to massive surges once or twice a year”, she tweeted last week. [A seasonal respiratory virus then.]

Dr Helen Salisbury, a senior GP and Oxford academic, added that people may regret talking about Covid becoming endemic as a good thing. “TB and smallpox were once endemic in the UK – it doesn’t mean mild, it just means widespread”, she warned. [But Covid, and particularly Omicron, is mild.]

So what does it really mean for a disease to become endemic and where do we stand as regards SARS-CoV-2?

Francois Balloux, a professor of computational biology at University College London, was one of the first to talk about Covid becoming an endemic disease and says, “in retrospect, we epidemiologists should have come up with a tighter definition”.

He says the common dictionary definition of the word – a disease regularly found among people in a particular area – is misleading. For epidemiologists, the term is more technical and relates to a virus’s reproduction value settling at around one.

“Essentially it means that things are kept in check up to a point by the immunity in the population”, says Prof Balloux. “There is a stability and a predictability to an endemic pathogen but the complication is that they can still go up and down”. [So is it stable and predictable or not?]

Influenza is a good example. Its seasonal waves are largely predictable and kept in check through a mixture of natural immunity, vaccines and behaviour change. [Flu being endemic and ‘kept in check’ has nothing to do with vaccines or behaviour change. Vaccines probably reduce the death toll but it was endemic and ‘kept in check’ before vaccines came along. And what has behaviour change got to do with anything – when did anyone change their behaviour during a winter flu wave, besides possibly staying at home when unwell?]. There are good years in which it kills very few and bad years where it can dangerously stretch health services. …

Adam Kucharski, an Associate Professor at the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine, thinks it may take longer for things to become predictable.

He notes the evolution of SARS-CoV-2 may not yet have settled into a gentle foreseeable drift, where each new variant comes from a known lineage. Omicron didn’t emerge from the Delta lineage and Delta didn’t emerge from the Alpha, Beta or Gamma lines, he says.

“I suspect we’ve still got a period of uncertainty before we can predict the coming years with any confidence”, he told the Telegraph. “Covid evolution might pause in an Omicron-shaped corner for a while, or Omicron might give rise to another variant, much like we’d see for seasonal coronaviruses and flu, or we could see another evolutionary surprise”. [When did evolutionary predictability become a condition of being endemic? Flu is not predictable, which is one reason the vaccines are hit and miss. Indeed, Dr. Kucharski admits the endemic coronaviruses and flu virus themselves give rise to new variants, so why should this exclude SARS-CoV-2 from being endemic?]

For now, Omicron cases appear to be plateauing in parts of the U.K. On Saturday, Dr Susan Hopkins, the UK Health Security Agency chief medical adviser, said the number of infections were flat in London and the South East and rising only slowly now in the North. [Plateauing? Rising? Plummeting more like, including in the North. This is a flat-out inaccurate description of the current state of the outbreak.]

“All of that means we are seeing a slowdown in the number of admissions to hospital but they are slowing down rather than reversing”, she said. [The number of Covid patients in hospital and ICU has been declining for some days now – anyone can see this on the Government Covid dashboard.]

With hospitalisations still running at over 2,000 a day and most regular NHS business still on hold, Dr Hopkins will be hoping SARS-CoV-2 becomes endemic in the UK at a somewhat lower level than it is today. [We’re at the peak of the winter wave of a seasonal respiratory virus, what a ridiculous thing to say; of course it will not remain endemic at this level.]

Otherwise, as the US Centers for Disease Control suggests, we may be needing yet another new word. “Hyperendemic refers to persistent, high levels of disease occurrence”, it notes. [Well yes, if a virus was to persist at its winter peak level throughout the year that could be a problem. But it doesn’t, so we don’t need a new scary-sounding term to refer to it, thank you very much.]

There’s no need to over-complicate this. Flu is endemic. By endemic we mean like flu, so we can go back to normal. Covid is now like flu. Next topic.

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olaffreya
olaffreya
4 years ago

The wall on which the prophets wrote
Is cracking at the seams.
Upon the instruments of death
The sunlight brightly gleams.

The fate of all mankind I see is in the hands of fools.

Epitaph – King Crimson 1969.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  olaffreya

I abandoned my own comment when I read yours. Nothing further need be said.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Crisis garden! You messaged me but it says I’m not allowed to reply – do you know if I have to activate something?

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I’ll send another one with my email address, others have also had problems replying…

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Fabuloso!

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

The purpose of the email thing is that “we” cannot contact each other directly – you have to break down your email address like joe blow at hot mail dot com to get it – however, do you really want to have someone connect directly with you if you don’t know what they really want and these contacts can be very addictive, so be very careful what you give up, which might later come back to haunt you.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
4 years ago
Reply to  olaffreya

Lyrics by Pete Sinfield.

Who later wrote lyrics for Bucks Fizz…..

TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Everyone is allowed an off day!

Corky Ringspot
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

That’s hilarious – King Crimson/Bucks Fizz…

barrywomble
barrywomble
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

I used to have his album ‘ Still ‘

artfelix
4 years ago
Reply to  olaffreya

Like a bit of Crimson – the only acceptable prog band

Wilko
4 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

C’mon, how about Gentle Giant ? 😀

barrywomble
barrywomble
4 years ago
Reply to  Wilko

Saw G.G. twice in the 70’s. Fab band

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Arrest them and cut off their limbs with a penknife.

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I have seen someone scalped with a blunt penknife.

Not nice.

Wilko
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

The Scout movement isn’t what it was

Annie
4 years ago

Covid is a disease of the English language.

ibelong2kali
ibelong2kali
4 years ago

What else has been ‘redefined’ by the Oceania Government? ‘Vaccines’ ‘anti vaxxers’ and obviously ‘restrictions’ being rebranded as ‘protections’

any other ‘double speak’ that I have forgotten?

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

“case”

ibelong2kali
ibelong2kali
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Brilliant contributions Lovely Girl. Thank you.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

“government”?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

“Party Leader.”

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Yes but it was a work party, and they have to have a bit of cheese and wine to keep them going.
“This is a work event”!

‘This is a work event’: Boris Johnson lookalikes party outside No10 (msn.com)

Hey, if that Party party who stood in North Shropshire stand in the next by-election, they may be mistaken for the “Conservative” party! (I note that Harman’s MP husband Jack Dromey who died recently died of one of those “short illnesses” too – one has to wonder…).

ibelong2kali
ibelong2kali
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Great shouts HP! 👏

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

“science”?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

😀 😀

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

“reason to live”?

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

“Opposition”?

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

‘attractive’. According to ‘research’ widely reported yesterday, it now means ‘wearing blue plastic face pants’.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The weird fetishes that will come from this shambles…

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Knickers then?

ibelong2kali
ibelong2kali
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

boom! 👏

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

“solidarity”?

TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Healthy?

eastender53
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

Pandemic.
Acquired immunity. (Later reversed)

ibelong2kali
ibelong2kali
4 years ago
Reply to  eastender53

Yes!! 👏

TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

Essential?

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

The social contract.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

Expert

ibelong2kali
ibelong2kali
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

😂 👏

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

The piss

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

Journalism

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

The science

ibelong2kali
ibelong2kali
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

😂 brilliant. And terrifying.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

Safe

Wilko
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Common sense

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Wilko

Party!

ibelong2kali
ibelong2kali
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

chilling. 👏

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

Clinical trial

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

Irreversible

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

“Immunity” can now only happen through “vaccination” not naturally!

sskinner
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

‘Woman’, ‘Man’

ibelong2kali
ibelong2kali
4 years ago
Reply to  ibelong2kali

Bravo everyone! I had forgotten half of these. Just proves how insidious all this has become.

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago

‘First they steal the words, then they steal the meaning’

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Didn’t they do that in an Orwell book?

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

.

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

I want one of those!

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Here you are, cheap and cheerful on eBay.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/-/173792850387

Mark
4 years ago

Not worth reading in full.”

Touche! The Telegraph’s “Global Health Security team” does seem in serious need of flushing.

Over the past few years we have certainly had the lesson rubbed in that there is no depth the modern US sphere journalist or editor will not sink to. in pursuit of money or of “respectability”.

There should be an accounting.

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Gates money in, Gates garbage out!

barmpot
barmpot
4 years ago

Fuck off…..Redefine that.

artfelix
4 years ago

Fuck off – we’re done

LonePatriot
LonePatriot
4 years ago

I recommend everyone to read Real Anthony Fauci by Bobby Kennedy Jr. On chapther 3 he explains how Ivermectin could have saved 80 percent of deaths Worldwide. This book have opened my eyes. I now know that, 90% of all medicine is not for anything else than profit for them. Low profit and effective medicines are bashed and marketed as ineffective because they go against their narrative and profit plans. One of them is wonder drug Ivermectin. I see that everyday people search for it but can’t find a place to obtain. You can get yours by visiting https://ivmpharmacy.com

lordsnooty
4 years ago
Reply to  LonePatriot

google searches for ivermectin have fallen rapidly.ivmpharmacy are just after money.

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  LonePatriot

It’s ironic that Merck are the maker of the new ‘wonder anti/viral drug having downplayed the potential benefit of ivermectin which apparently they also make. Profit before principles,

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

If there was money to be made from nettle sting cures, you can be sure that dock leafs would be smeared.

TC
TC
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Merck?
Search online for references to Vioxx.
They have form like all BigPharma companies.

Steven Robinson
Steven Robinson
4 years ago

Flu vaccines probably reduce the death toll but it was endemic and ‘kept in check’ before vaccines came along.

The idea that even conventional vaccines improve on natural immunity and save lives needs to be challenged. See the review of how harmful vaccines are by Ray Obomsawin at:
https://pennybutler.com/vaccine-lies-forever/

The rise and fall of polio were linked to neurotoxic pesticides such as DDT. Measles incidence plummeted long before the vax program. Scurvy fell in tandem with measles (whooping cough likewise), showing the importance of diet/vitamin C. TB vaccines increased the incidence of the disease. Likewise cases of mumps, chickenpox, whooping cough and measles outbreaks were all chiefly among those vaccinated for the diseases.
 
Influenza is discussed around 50 mins into the lecture.

Wilko
4 years ago

This book

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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

I wonder if the EU has got around to banning lime juice from being marketed as “preventing scurvy” yet?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The natural stuff is banned but the pasteurised, bottled stuff is superior anyway so that’s passed.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

He’s consistent, is Paul Nuki, consistently Branch Covidian.

isobar
4 years ago

Spot on, That the DT accepts Gates funding for this kind of stuff speaks volumes!

Aleajactaest
4 years ago

Don’t “be fair” to Billy Gates.

Victory Gin
4 years ago

These people will torment you without end if you keep complying and fail to stand up to them.

They are bullies.

This is how its done …

“Ya f*ckin brownshirt!”

Must watch …

https://gettr.com/post/poidzle63c

SkepticalHomme
4 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

Classic! You’re right, we need more people speaking up like that. Smash their feet off clay and they crumble.

Osobowy
4 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

Thats brilliant! And nice to see some positive news coming out of Canada for once!

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

Too many people were in torment anyway, the levels of mental health problems have been frightening for years, that’s why they were able to pull this off. Communities with a healthier outlook on life such as the Amish would be more immune to all this nonsense.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago

Thank you Dr Will for your clinically acerbic take-down of this Orwellian BS.

Wow, we’ve got a new ‘flu.

Whuflu.

JamesM
JamesM
4 years ago

Paul Nuki has consistently pushed for lockdowns and restrictions. If this man is funded by Bill Gates, then the Telegraph should make that fact clear. To be fair, the Telegraph overall is lockdown-sceptic and Paul Nuki sits very uncomfortably within its columns. Even so, it is regrettable that this man is still given space to publish his doom-mongering. People are waking up to the power exerted by the CCP; they should also wake up to the malign influence exerted by Bill Gates.

NickR
4 years ago

Just watching ‘Dopesick’ on Disney, parallels the current situation pretty well, big pharma with the FDA in it’s pocket. Looks like it’s been like this for a long time

amanuensis
4 years ago

They’re playing with semantics.

All that matters is whether there’s risk and whether there’s anything that you can do about it.

Except for a brief spell in early 2020 we’ve known for ages that the risk is low for those aged <65 and not obese, we’ve known since summer 2021 (earlier if you bother to look at Sweden) that most social interventions are ineffective, and we have a good idea right now that the vaccines are too flawed to be used as a disease control measure (although governments worldwide are desperate to keep the population naive to this).

I suggest that we might as well live with it from this point on — just get things back to normal (the old normal, not some dystopian ‘new normal’).

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Not one single NPI had at its heart the protection of public health, in fact NPI’s were unilaterally intended to undermine the nation’s physical and mental health.

zebedee
zebedee
4 years ago

I cancelled my subscription just over a week ago as I had had enough of Nuki and his ilk along with having had one of my comments be branded misinformation when I was stating that, contrary to the regurgitated Zoe press release, epidemics never grow exponentially. I had complained about the misinformation and am still waiting a response.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

Anything they’re not redefining?

I suppose they’ll still tell us they’re setting the threshold very high. Lying blighters.

Bolloxed Britannia
Bolloxed Britannia
4 years ago

There was never a fucking PANDEMIC! Where was the excess adjusted all cause mortality for 2020? EH! EH! There was none ya fucking fruit loops…
Cretinously stupid?
Malevolenty disingenuous?
Or just fucking EVIL, which one are you?

Catee
4 years ago

Basically ‘endemic’ means no EUA for the clotshots so ‘pandemic’ it will remain.

Samurai Jack
Samurai Jack
4 years ago

March 2020 – Fauci & friends

2nd column on the first page – covid may ultimately be more akin to a severe case of seasonal flu 🔮

https://www.nejm.org/doi/pdf/10.1056/NEJMe2002387?articleTools=true

zners
zners
4 years ago

Huuuge protests I see across Europe!!!
Anyway, to comment on this, the Telegrpah is a bit of a Johnson fan-boy gazette isn’t it. Never like it. Were totally clueless on Brexit matters too (like all papers)

ElSabio
4 years ago

We now have a pandemic of bullshit….

Christina Pagel, a Professor of Operational Research at University College London, notes that “a virus isn’t endemic just because a Government minister says it is and just because people want it to be”. [Note that Prof. Pagel is a mathematician with no medical training.]

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Doom Slayer
4 years ago

Always worth a reminder. FOI request to ONS

2020 – Deaths of under 65s with no pre existing conditions, attributed to the plague – 1549
2021 – Q1 – 1560
Q2 – 153
Q3 – 512

And for over 65s its 7851 in 2020 and 5746 in first 3 quarters of 2021. Hardly world ending.

So not only are the numbers small, they unsurprisingly dont seem to show any vaccine benefit.

In 2015, 787 died from falling down stairs.

tom171uk
4 years ago

Fear not. Boris will see through this bullshit and declare the panic over…

…won’t he?

ElSabio
4 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

I’ll be right on it!

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ElSabio
4 years ago

There has to be, somewhere in this land, someone who is able to stand up to all this bollocks and simply put an end to it. Past generations had their man or woman of the moment; we need ours. Our current political leadership (cough cough) is riddled with craven, self-aggrandizing, bought-and-paid-for morons with an eye only on their tax-payer-funded pensions. Is there no one who will raise their arse above the parapet and fart in the globalists’ general direction?

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BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago

Pagel is an iSAGE zero covid nut

Ignore

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Francois Balloux alleges the common dictionary definition of endemic is misleading. What absolute arrogance – the dictionary definition of ‘arrogance’ in this context: “an insulting belief that everyone is very much dumber than you”.   I can imagine the way these arrogant gits think. The government sees that COVID-19 is fast losing the terrorist power it held over the people for the last two years. But worse than this, they saw that people were getting angry, very angry, at all the blatant lies they’ve been told.   Our Rulers saw that they’d have to roll-back a little, but no way would the controlling Cabal allow a return to pre-plandemic normality. They need to keep their COVID-19 terrorist weapon in their arsenal, so they can unleash it at opportune times to keep the plebs inline.   So, our Rulers ordered underlings like Balloux to rebrand COVID-19 in such a way that it made the government look like it successfully managed the pandemic, but to also keep it (COVID-19) lurking in the background as an existential threat, that could be let loose periodically to threaten the proles.   Then the race was on. Balloux, first out of the stalls, looked at ‘pandemic’… Read more »

Martin Frost
Martin Frost
4 years ago

Are Paul Nuki’s articles paid for? All I can say is that I hope that he reads DT readers comments about his regular pieces and takes note!