How I Cast Aside My Mask – But Succumbed to a Perspex Screen

There follows a guest post by a Daily Sceptic reader, who wishes to remain anonymous, on the anger that led him to stop wearing a mask – but the apathetic resignation to the ubiquitous Covid theatre that led him to acquiesce to a pointless Perspex screen.

Cast your mind back to the distant past. Do you recall when the Government postponed the so-called June 21st 2021 ‘Freedom Day’ by a month? (You remember: the ‘irreversible terminus’ of the ‘road map’!) Well, I’d been seething for a while, but when that happened I really was as mad as hell and finally decided not to take it anymore. My protest was rather timid, but it felt like a big step at the time: I resolved I would no longer ‘mask up’ (there must be some strong contenders but has a more loathsome phrase entered the language in the Covid era?) as an outward and visible sign of my inward opposition to the nonsensical tyranny that had taken control of our country. (Musings on the travails of my conscience at this time were kindly published by the Daily Sceptic.)

I confess that I was, in that long-distant summer, a little nervous upon entering the supermarket and getting on a train for the first couple of times. But it very quickly came to feel completely unremarkable – and highly liberating. Somewhat to my surprise, I also found that nobody challenged me. Not a single person. I had no difficult conversations or explosive confrontations; I didn’t need to enter into heated debates about exemptions or human rights. I maybe received the odd death-glare from my fellow-citizens, but with half of their face obscured, how can you really tell?

I was an outlaw for a month, until July 19th 2021, from when nobody was obliged to wear a mask in shops or on public transport and the law was finally on my side. There remained ‘guidance’ to the effect that wearing masks in crowded places was recommended, but with laughable optimism I assumed that this guidance would be generally disregarded. I strode into my local Co-op on July 19th, fully expecting to see a sea of cheerful bare faces. Why would anyone voluntarily submit to this dehumanising and degrading imposition? It was the middle of summer; all the metrics that apparently measured the progress of the (increasingly questionably named) pandemic were gently bumping along at the bottom of a line graph; surely nobody would continue to choose to put a mask on their face to go shopping?

But no: in shops and on buses the masked-up still remained a clear majority. I found this disconcerting. It started to dawn on me that, deep down, maybe people actually liked wearing them, and that there was perhaps more going on here – psychologically, politically, sociologically – than simply staying safe.

As the year progressed, however, the ratio of masked to unmasked started to shift somewhat closer to sanity. When I took my son from our small North West town into Manchester in early December, the train there and back was very crowded with Christmas shoppers and there was hardly a mask in sight. We had to stand for much of the journey, in close proximity to fellow human beings, and we struck up friendly conversations with strangers by exhaling air from our mouths in the traditional fashion, unencumbered by cloth barriers. It felt good. Natural. Normal. I really started to think that the Covid mania was pretty much coming to an end and that the spell had been broken, like that bit in The Lion The Witch and the Wardrobe when the snow starts melting and the White Witch can do nothing about it apart from stamp her feet and shout at her dwarf.

But days later the latest scare campaign was launched. A new ‘variant of concern’, originating in South Africa, was detected. I watched, deflated and astonished, as the sickeningly familiar apparatus of fear was wheeled out again: the portentous Greek code name (the Omicron Variant; it sounded comically like a 1970s airport thriller by Frederick Forsyth but apparently we were supposed to take it seriously) the shrill headlines, the apocalyptic models (large numbers of people dying by… some point in the near future… probably…), the grave press conferences. Come on! Surely, I thought, people aren’t going to go along with it this time! The facts were so unpersuasive – South African doctors were telling us from the outset that this variant was essentially a cold. Surely the mutation of the virus into something endemic and eminently manageable was a cause for celebration, not blind panic?

Of course not. The majority seemed to lap it all up with resigned fatalism and even a strange masochistic delight. The masks suddenly started to proliferate in greater numbers. I started to spot far greater numbers of the weird sub-group of masked people who wander around outside and alone, like confused escapees from an institution. I call these people “Ernies”, after the character in the film K-Pax who wears a mask all day long because he is, you know, a mentally ill hypochondriac. You may recall that at the end of the film, Ernie takes his mask off and decides to henceforth live his life confidently and joyfully, at last recognising that a life spent obsessively fearing death is a life wasted. What a strange message from a galaxy far, far away!

Before long the Government’s so-called ‘Plan B’ was invoked. As well as introducing a reprehensible system of health apartheid by mandating vaccine passports, this step involved mandating the wearing of masks in shops and on public transport. In January the Government then went further by forcing all secondary school children to cover their faces throughout the school day. As I type these words I still cannot quite believe that this is really taking place in my country, and that many teachers and parents are shamefully supporting this cruel, stupid, abusive policy.

I was still mad as hell, far madder actually, and so despite the return of the legal mandate I certainly wasn’t going to back down now. I screwed my courage to the thingummy and continued to go abroad in a state of brazen masklessness. And with much the same consequences as before: that is, none whatsoever. So far a grand total of one person has challenged me; a bus-driver who asked me, rather half-heartedly, whether I had a mask. I said that I didn’t and I sat down, which proved to be the end of the matter. I was disappointed to see, again, such high levels of compliance, but it is at least reassuring to observe a smattering of fellow refuseniks abroad. I find the staff in shops to be, if anything, more friendly towards me than usual. Perhaps many of them are sick of wearing masks themselves and enjoy interacting with someone whose face they can see and whose voice they can hear clearly. Staff at train stations and on the tube, I have noticed, very often don’t wear masks themselves, and do not seem at all interested in enforcing the mandate.

It’s a strange time – things are, perhaps, drifting back in the general direction of what we might just about call normalcy, but the vestigial traces of Covid mania are proving stubbornly slow to disappear. This gives almost every routine daily interaction a slightly surreal, irrational quality. I will try to illustrate what I mean with a brief anecdote.

This Saturday morning I went to our local butchers. Most people in the queue were wearing masks; I and the lady behind me were not. The butchers were not wearing masks themselves and the man who served me was courteous and friendly and did not remark at all upon my bare face. “See you soon, sir!” he called as I left the shop.

As I was walking home I was caught in a sudden heavy downpour of rain just as I was passing a small cafe. On a whim I decided to take refuge there for 20 minutes or so in the hope that the rain would abate.

It was a smart sort of cafe, quite small, with maybe eight tables arranged closely to one another. It was busy. Most of the tables were full, and a couple had reservation signs. A waitress approached, maskless, smiling. I explained that I just wanted a cup of coffee, but said that I could see that they were busy. A man sitting at the table right by the door doing a crossword and drinking tea said that I was welcome to sit at his table, since he was on his own at a table for four. I thanked him and sat down.

All perfectly normal, so far.

The waitress went away, returning immediately with a surprising object: a small portable Perspex screen, maybe half a metre square, that she proceeded to place upon the table. Given that me and the gentleman with the crossword were on the same side of the table, this screen didn’t even sit in our line of sight, so any hopes that it would be able to deflect the potentially deadly microscopic virus particles passing between us seemed especially optimistic. “Just going to pop this here… let me know if you don’t need it,” said the waitress. My companion was engrossed in his crossword. I ordered a cup of coffee.

Waiting for my drink, I wondered what a visitor from the distant past – February 2020, say – would have made of this little screen. I then started to notice other little things that a time-traveller would have found odd about the café. Firstly, she may have noticed that by the door was a QR code and a notice stating that it was a legal requirement for visitors to ‘check in’ using this code as part of a Government programme called ‘Track and Trace’. Such a notice would undoubtedly have sent a frisson of horror down her spine. What dystopian hell is this?

She would also have noticed, however, that absolutely nobody entering the café paid any attention to this sign or the code. Was the sign out of date? Was it being routinely disobeyed in a quiet act of civil disobedience? Was it actually some sort of elaborate prank – or an art installation, perhaps? It occurred to me – having never downloaded this app myself, and having rather lost track of the myriad restrictions that have been brought in, rescinded, and reintroduced in recent months – that I didn’t have a clue whether checking in to cafés is still a legal requirement. And if it isn’t, why are the signs still everywhere? When if ever, will they be removed?

The other thing that might have baffled and dismayed a visitor from the past was the peculiar ritual conducted by every single customer upon entering the café. They all walked in wearing face masks. Following a muffled conversation with the waitress, they would then make their way to a table and only upon sitting down would they finally remove these masks.

How would this weird phenomenon be explained to a bemused time-traveller?

“Well, there’s this virus going around, and they think that masks might reduce your chances of getting it, or at least passing it on, so it’s become a courteous custom to wear them in order to reduce the spread of the disease.”

“Yes, but… they only wear the masks for half a minute and then spend half an hour sitting in a small room in close proximity to 20 other people. Is this a virus that can somehow only infect those who are standing up? If they are genuinely concerned that they might have this dreadful virus then why not just have their breakfast at home? And none of them actually look very fearful. This really isn’t how I imagined people would behave in a deadly global pandemic – I’ve seen Contagion and I don’t remember the scene where everyone went out and ordered avocado on toast.”

And that’s the truly strange thing right now – none of them look fearful. We are still going through the motions with the masks and the tests and all the rest of it, but as far as I can tell very few people are actually in the least bit concerned about Covid itself. Every second conversation you overhear is about some friend or family member who, despite being ‘triple jabbed’ and testing themselves daily and dutifully wearing their mask has managed to catch Covid and is currently stuck at home watching Netflix. But these conversations are all completely matter of fact, even rather jocular; none of the people being talked about seem to have more than a bad head cold. There is a total absence of the fear of the virus that was evident in March and April 2020. The Covid rituals have become entrenched; a self-perpetuating practice, conducted for its own sake, and uprooted from any realistic connection to an actual threat.

Whatever their private opinions may be, few people I encounter appear to be openly questioning why we are still acting in this extraordinary way. Nor are they challenging the removal of the civil liberties and the jobs of low-risk people who choose not to be given a vaccine that is manifestly ineffective against infection with the dominant variant of the virus. Nor are they disputing whether perfectly healthy people should be testing themselves every day, at eye-watering public expense, to determine whether they are ill without knowing it. Okay, I have encountered one or two friends who are now voicing these sorts of radical views, but it is still somehow not the done thing in bien pensant circles to speak out against the dominant narrative. It’s embarrassing and somehow ill-mannered to do so, and any opposition is tentative and very carefully framed indeed – “I’m not a Trump-supporting conspiracy theorist anti-vaxxer but I’m just a teeny bit unsure about this forcing children to wear masks business…” In general, most people are still dutifully – even enthusiastically – going along with the Covid theatre of the absurd.

I mused on all of this as I walked back home from the café on Saturday, the rain having stopped, and I experienced and rather enjoyed the nasty little glow of outrage and smug self-righteousness that is my chief consolation when contemplating our current predicament. They’ve all gone mad, I tell myself, but at least good old me can see through the insanity.

But then it occurred to me that this wasn’t entirely true. I too had played along with the rules of this Mad Hatter’s tea party. When the waitress had placed down that Perspex barrier, she had clearly stated that we should inform her if we didn’t need it. I should at this point have politely asked her to take it away. The man with the crossword would probably have raised no objections, since he was the one who had invited me to sit down in the first place. I very much doubt the waitress cared one way or the other.

So why had I said nothing? Oh, for an easy life, I suppose. Right then and there, wiping the rain from my glasses and deciding which coffee to order, objecting to the screen simply hadn’t seemed worth the bother. But by letting the screen remain in place, I had been guilty of a small but nonetheless significant act of apathy and cowardice. It may not have felt like a big thing, and in a way it wasn’t, but it’s the accumulation and the acceptance of so many of these little things that has created the bizarre world we now live in.

I may well be wrong – my hopes and predictions have been dashed many times over the last 18 months – but it does feel as if all of this is, maybe, finally, just about starting to wind down in the U.K. The current restrictions are due to expire on January 26th. Some of them will, it seems at this point, probably be rescinded. But others may well remain. And for how long? One final push to get us through the winter… better safe than sorry… it really is the irreversible terminus this time! There is a real risk that some of the props and routines of the Covid theatre will be with us for years, if not forever. So now is not the time for complacency. We need to resist all of them, even the small ones. There must be a bonfire of the masks. And of the Perspex screens as well.

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loopDloop
loopDloop
4 years ago

Oh, you’re not a Trump supporting, conspiracy theorist, antivaxxer. I’m glad we got that sorted out. Phew. Gosh those people are awful aren’t they, utter freaks, deserving of banishment and hate.

Then you spend 26 paragraphs wondering what the heck has gone wrong with the world.

gavinfdavies
gavinfdavies
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

The impression I get is that that is how he sees other people phrase it.

Osobowy
4 years ago
Reply to  gavinfdavies

Was my impression as well.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Harsh!

loopDloop
loopDloop
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Actually, on rereading it, I see I did misread it. My bad. I apologise for being a dick there.

Zionist
Zionist
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Never apologise, always double down. No exceptions.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Zionist

It’s an unfortunate British trait: someone steps on your foot and you are first to say ‘sorry’.

Marcus Aurelius knew
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

You weren’t a dick, you just made a mistake. And then owned up to it.

Don’t ever think that you are humble enough to consider a career in politics – or medico-politics, as it has now become!

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

The writer was slow to wake up but still quicker than most. Have you forgotten about the great joy in heaven when a sinner repents?

Jaguarpig
Jaguarpig
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Fuck77 cunt

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Jaguarpig

77th Brigade marking you down. I did my bit and marked you up.

TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

The person he was replying (and abusing) already admitted that they misread the piece. Perhaps people are down voting because of that?

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

To the 31 downtickers who don’t get sarcasm – thanks for the laugh.

007point5
007point5
4 years ago

I’ve seen Contagion and I don’t remember the scene where everyone went out and ordered avocado on toast.”” …

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Good article! Is it finally winding down? There is no logic on their terms justifying a wind down, but no logic to support the measures either. This complicates things because it is all arbitrary.

I am also perplexed that so many people are neither scared of covid nor ripping off their masks – knowing it’s all nonsense.

Do they fear the gov, their neighbours, or their own agency? Are they badly informed, or do they just like complying and wearing masks?

What a damaged society this is.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I’ve detected a vague sense of winding down on my Saturday walk into town. But some people appear to be doubling down. Maybe they’ve been encouraged by the Guardian article this week about how masks make you more attractive! 🤢🤦‍♂️

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Changing your mind is often subconscious: not arguments but impressions, not logic but sudden realisation, feelings not facts. The ‘turning off’ of propaganda and censorship, or even its dialling down, sends psychic pulses through an unconscious society. As we watch the thaw, there’ll be ups and downs. Years later almost all will realise we were in fact on the side of truth. Vindication will be almost as sweet as the return of freedom even for our ‘enemies’.

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

There is minimal, if any, winding down in my area. Even before the mandate was introduced mask wearing was still incredibly high in my town. It’s going to be a long, long while, before masks are a rarity.

Mark
4 years ago

Well I’ve just got back from my local Co-op, where the numpties were straight back up at 100% mask wearing as soon as the “plan B” fear-mongering started, and it was quite a positive experience – several people defiantly unmasked as well as myself – maybe 20%. Depressing that such small numbers should be encouraging, but there it is. It’s an improvement.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Maybe it’s time to have a good old-fashioned punch-up and rip their stupid masks off.

Fred Streeter
Fred Streeter
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Did you enquire of these “Numpties” their reasons for wearing a mask?

I wear one when the store’s staff are made to wear them, and the store requests that I wear one.

I have used the one mask throughout this farce.
(It is somewhat grubby, but stores’ requests never specify the quality of the mask, merely that it covers nostrils and mouth.)

I will not accept the current crop of, ahem, “vaccines”.
I am not anti-vaccine, I have been vaccinated in the past, but not until the vaccine has been used on a sufficiently large scale.

However, I am selective. For example, I have not had the symptoms of influenza for almost 50 years, consequently I do not have the annual “Flu Jab” on offer to we derelicts

I have a good healthy diet, supplemented with the usual suspects (just to make sure), and I get out and about in the countryside for exercise, not to mention the vegetable plots.

crisisgarden
4 years ago

It’s extraordinary isn’t it that this time around, masks outdoors have become a thing where they weren’t before. They are, as we suspected all along, badges of acceptance of a new ideology.

Gefion
Gefion
4 years ago

This morning I received one of these emails that Next-door send you every so often to get to you rejoin. The topic was a rant about people NOT wearing masks. I live in Scotland which has become a nation of fearties and it’s still the position that you could be fined for not wearing a mask in certain situations. I’m tempted to rejoin to read the 48 comments that the poster has received.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Less obviously ugly would be my wording. 🙂

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

I’ll never get used to looking at them. When masked people breathe and the material bulges in and out, I find that so weird and horrific. I don’t understand how anyone is up for that at all. So weird.

TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Maybe some people with very odd proclivities get off on that? I can’t see why anyone would find it acceptable.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I see no signs whatsoever of winding down in my neck of the woods. I am finding it particularly hard going today as it is increasingly becoming the case that there are 2 parallel social structures emerging. There is the structure which accepts, nay doubles down on, all of this and treats it as normal and there is my structure, which regards all of this as totally unnecessary and abnormal and, in parts, not much short of evil [the quarantining, the jabbing etc]. The only way to mix with people in the other social structure is to pretend to go along with it and stick to “safe topics” of conversation, which I am increasingly finding it hard to go along with. To try to even suggest that it is all a fraud is seen as subversive and it feels to me like I increasingly have to “indulge” them and their totally baseless fears, and also involves me having to negate what is happening to me and the pressure and anxiety I feel as an unjabbed person with what could be coming down the line. It is like I just don’t matter because I am not prepared to comply and I’m… Read more »

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

The masked cannot be ‘read’. So how can we begin to communicate with them?

It’s a physical and psychological barrier to breaking down covidianism. I do not bother raising ‘controversies’ at work unless I am alone with a person.

Have they ever tried to empathise with us? Not likely!

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

No. But a key thing I’ve learned is that they have no idea we’re also terrified, albeit of something completely different.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Not sure any are truly terrified on the conscious level.

The terror comes from the ‘threat’ of exposure as mindless drones – from us as inconvenient prophets in their midst.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

It’s the gigantic social experiment nobody wanted!

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I bet that’s upset those companies that advertise lipstick in the Graun…

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

No problem, between BMGF and HMG I’m sure they’ve made up the shortfall.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I thought the perspex screen in the picture and which the correspondent described was absolutely pathetic – as you rightly say, what a psychologically damaged society this is.

If I had sat down at that table – rain or no rain – and the waitress had placed that screen on the table I would have simply got up and said I had changed my mind about coffee and asked her to cancel the order.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

‘Psychologically damaged’ would have to include all those who feel safe wearing masks that the manufacturers point out are not suitable for the task at hand.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I think that’s right, we have to challenge the narrative at every opportunity.
It’s weary work though.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I ask people with whom I play sports (so not really friends as such) what they think about what’s gone on over the last two years. Some shrug ruefully(?). Others ask what I mean.
It’s quite chilling, really.
And that’s not even considering those who’ve had unproven junk squirted into their arms (or veins, if the jabber was inexpert) just so they could fly somewhere for a vacation.

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Is it finally winding down?

This coup has been being planned since the end of the Cold War. No, it’s not winding down.

TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I suspect it was already badly damaged before this dangerous farce started. The lockdown rules just finished the job.

As for the whole thing winding down, I still see clowns wearing a mask alone in their own cars. You can’t get more stupid than that.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  TSull

Yes you can, when they’re wearing latex gloves too and then when they walk into a supermarket and spray their trolley with a supposedly lurgy killing spray. Absolute bellends

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Most should know by now, that Covid is nothing more than a load of bollox, but these people are nevertheless just too cowardly to step out of line.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Some scummy politicians are certainly hedging their bets. Today one populist shitbag in Germany who is known by the nickname of the King of Bavaria (very radical proponent of all sorts of corona measures, and very failed when it comes to them preventing Bavaria from becoming #1 infected land during previous waves) announced that he has been “thinking over” matters and that he recognizes the “social costs” now.

Of course, in the next sentence he proceeded to denigrate the same people who have been “thinking over” this since two years. Just to be sure that whatever outcome he appears to have done the “right move”.

But that the most depressing part is that people like him are even voted in and remain in office, which reflects on the overall population.

Fred Streeter
Fred Streeter
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Given that the staff in these stores are made to wear masks, it seems churlish of me to flaunt my masklessness, so I don one (the one mask I have worn throughout this fiasco).

(I would add that the Co-op’s Middle Management appear to be absolved of this obligation when among customers.)

crisisgarden
4 years ago

Yes, it’s been a bumper couple of years for Perspex™️ and irrational behaviour. As though the whole world has forgotten how air works. I’ve never worn a mask; a mask has never once been on my face. I have been challenged twice during the whole episode. I’d done my reading and made an informed decision; I believed the rules were about psychological nudging rather than public health and I didn’t want to help normalise this so I confidently went maskless and nobody bothered me. Like the writer, I had to toughen up; generally an anxious person but had to overcome this. This adversity has made us all a bit stronger I think.

PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

O/T I tried messaging you via the forum, but computer says no. Any other suggestion?

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Hmm I’ll send a message and see if you can reply to it.

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I’ve commented above about the subject of risk. I too have not worn a mask (or a splash guard as Dr Yeadon calls them), except for a few visits to a NHS outpost where I didn’t want to antagonise the nurse who was treating me. Anyway, I still get a slight feeling of risk, a thrill almost, when entering shops etc in case I am challenged. It’s only happened the once, and that’s almost a disappointment, as I’m ready to give as good as I get. Does anyone else share this feeling?

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  beornwulf

It’s alright so long as you remember that, when an argument gets heated and you start to shout, the germs, bacteria and viruses do travel further. This can be solved by only arguing from a reasonable distance.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

There appears to be a presumption of infection in that statement JD.

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago
Reply to  beornwulf

I had a nurse get quite shirty with me for not wearing a mask during a minor surgical procedure, she then accused me of being an antivaxxer. I reeled off the list of about 10 vaccinations that I had when I worked for big Pharma and that shut her up. The doctor actually doing the surgery didn’t appear to be concerned. But it wasn’t with the NHS.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  beornwulf

I share the feeling. I’ve been secretly wanting to be challenged but the great, polite British public have been a big disappointment!

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  beornwulf

I know exactly what you mean. Sadly, I have had the toughest battles in hospitals and arguing with NHS staff. I never back down. At some point I know I will face the prospect of refusing treatment if it is dependent on a lance up my nose and a mask, but mentally I’ve drawn my lines.

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  beornwulf

Haha I’m just waiting for someone to say something about my lack of mask. No one ever has though my wife says that’s because I look like I’m about to murder someone 🙂

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago

Most people are collaborators.
Those of us on here are the few that are in the resistance against this tyranny.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  GlassHalfFull

I know an elderly person who gets a swab poked up their nose by the government on a weekly basis [they totally volunteered for this because they felt we all had to “play our part” like it was WW2 and we are ‘digging for victory’ or something].

For this they get a tesco voucher as a reward. It is hard not to see it as collaboration.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I read yesterday that in some areas of Canada people have been testing hourly. Unsurprisingly, there is now a shortage of test kits. Cue soiled underwear.

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I read yesterday that in some areas of Canada people have been testing hourly.

At least they have the excuse of being moose-fuckers.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

And a massive increase in polluting plastic waste, no doubt!

Are environmental organisations ever going to start making a fuss about disposable face nappies and testing materials? Because they bloody ought to – they complained (not unreasonably) about plastic straws, but those are insignificant in terms of sheer numbers compared to the waste generated by Covidian rituals.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Where’s Greta Thunberg when you need her, eh? How many cotton buds has she stuck up her nostrils?

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Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

She doesn’t need anything up her nostrils, she needs a big black cock up her arse to sort her out

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

I cannot imagine any human (other species are available) being that desperate

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I know an elderly person who gets a swab poked up their nose by the government on a weekly basis
It is hard not to see it as collaboration.

Because that’s exactly what it is. Or, if you want to be charitable, call it complicity.

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Indeed. For a huge amount of people this is ‘their war’ and they won’t have it any other way. They cannot see or acknowledge there isn’t actually an enemy.

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago

The war is a psychological one being waged on them by their own government paid for by their taxes.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Grim.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I’ve just designed a WW2 propaganda poster in my mind based on your post. Dig for Victory! Every little helps [QR code]

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago

Excellent piece that very much mirrors my thoughts, observations and experiences.

Smelly Melly
4 years ago

How I laugh at perspex screens. To me it just shows how bad scientific education is. I remember learning about Brownian motion and the reason why atoms/molecules and very small particles (like viruses) move randomly. How does a piece of perspex with gaps at the top and has holes for goods/money stop randomly moving particles that number in their billions/trillions.

As for face visors, they are truly ludicrous.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Welders wear visors and still seem to suffer respiratory problems from the fumes they manage to breathe despite the ‘protection’.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

The visors are designed to deflect sparks (and fragments of metal when used with a grinder or similar). They certainly aren’t expected to block aerosol particles!

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

They always remind me of being on the beach in Australia and swimming in the sea on a warm day. I first asked my host if it was safe from sharks. She assured me there were nets offshore to keep sharks out of the shallow water. After swimming for a while and basking in the sun I asked my host what was the large orange flagged buoy opposite where we were sitting about 200 metres out to sea. ‘Oh that’s the end of the shark net’, she replied. Don’t the sharks swim round the end of the net I asked after some but not very much thought. ‘Oh no, we are perfectly safe.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

When confronted with a perspex screen I always make a point of poking my head around it to talk with the occupant behind.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

And 99% of the time, they’ll be glad you did!

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

The thing with visors is that the virus hasn’t yet figured out a way to go under them and up to the nostrils. The wearer knows this, hence is smiling.

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BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Visors are just an embarrassment.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

As effective as a chain link fence stopping flies

Emmelda Johnson
4 years ago

I am very hard of hearing and mask wearing freaks me out. It increases the sense of isolation I feel and I don’t know when people are speaking. I’ve had numerous confrontations with the virtuous prigs who wear the stupid things. I particularly dislike those prigs who wear ‘fashionable’ masks as some kind of statement. Having to explain it to people who you don’t know, with nosey parkers listening in, that you have a disability is humiliating. I’ve been called stupid and selfish. I’ve been prodded by train guards for not hearing and my shopping trolley stopped by jobs worths. Why should I wear a badge. Despite doing my best to catch covid I have failed miserably and I’m 68.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

I work in a public library. I am dealing with masked colleagues and public daily: while also sitting behind a perspex screen. People never remove their masks, but talk with them on. It is often very hard to hear what they say especially when there is commotion at the busy counter. The situation is absurd and insane. These folk are like programmed droids, not authentic persons. So I sympathise with you totally. Yet some of the masked are hard of hearing too!

PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I saw an old dear in Tesco a few days ago, put her head around the perspex screen and up against the cashiers face so that she could hear her. Hilarious and tragic at the same time.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

We go ’round the bend’ like this for customers on a daily basis!

Emmelda Johnson
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

I know the feeling. I was once contemplating smashing a pot of yogurt over a security guards head! May be a black forest gateaux in his face would have been better! However I am now practiced at producing a notebook and asking the prigs to write down what they are saying. Watching the pompous prigs back track and apologise is revenge but I’d rather do without it all. I’ve even contemplated wearing a bucket on my head with eye holes cut in it. Wouldn’t worry me because I can’t hear a thing anyway! Please just leave me alone.

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago

Isn’t that what Ned Kelly did when going in cognito?

PoshPanic
4 years ago

Good for you…the yoghurt pot manoeuvre is one I would love to see!

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

I love that word “prig”! It perfectly describes so many at the moment yet it is barely used these days!

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

“producing a notebook and asking the prigs to write down what they are saying.”

That’s actually one of the best things you can do – get people to incriminate themselves.
Always ask people who they are. They don’t like to tell you, because then they ‘have been marked’.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I would LOVE to remove my mask in my local library but they won’t let me in without one sadly.

At times I have to sneak behind the stacks of books at the back [reference section where very few people ever go] and pull it off just to try to breathe for a bit.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Exempt? Unless you’re not in the UK? Sounds like you might not be because reference sections have been sold off in most public libraries here!😯😒😔😭

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

no – sadly in UK – but in my region govt has declared that “exemptions” are to be so rare now because of the deadly threat of Omicron that you are more likely to find a hen with teeth

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I’m the only hen with teeth among 10-12 staff: it wasn’t fun claiming my exemption after questioning by my manager, who took me off the duty of ‘welcoming customers’ at the entrance to ‘avoid conflict’ over ‘enforcing’ mask wearing.

AKA ‘discrimination’.

But maskless I remain!

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I’ve exempted myself at work too – thought it was going to be difficult but in fact it was fine. A couple of others (not in my department) are wearing those silly plastic visors but I think I’m the only one going completely barefaced. It’s quite ridiculous, teachers are supposed to be teaching barefaced (so the fully masked up students can understand what they are saying), masking to walk to the staff room where they crowd round the only table to eat their lunch while breathing all over each other and chatting about what the latest thing to watch on Netflix is (and this is the science department!)

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

Having colleagues to support you helps a lot – my sister has a few who also eschew masks at her place of work.

Otherwise it’s being alone and facing psychological pressures each and every day.

The ritualism of ‘compliance’ is like a cross between autism, OCD, hypochondria, demonic possession, and hypnosis.

Mostly it is cowardice, however.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

It does make you wonder quite how far you could go – how ridiculous would the requests have to be before people stop complying?

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

It’s a deeper problem: they would reject any obviously ridiculous imposition which clashed with the ‘solemnity’ of their ‘sacrifice’.

They are reflexively consuming, appropriating, and adhering to official narratives only. These are benchmarks of veracity for them. Sacred and incontestable.

This is effectively propagandising themselves with stats, MSM, and avoiding all ‘conspiracies’ and ‘antivaxxers’. It’s very easy to do this – it’s mainstream after all.

It could well never end. And many will go to their graves convinced and content in their errors.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Two masks was ridiculous- yet I saw
someone wear them.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

I saw a thin hag in Waterstones with an industrial mask and goggles.

Creepy in its absolute demonism.

Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

2 masks are so effective in reducing oxygen to the body and brain leading to slow cumulative brain damage (think dementia) and an increase in the chances of cancer developing/growing. Cancers love oxygen deprived environments!

RichardTechnik
RichardTechnik
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

You are either exempt through having a reasonable excuse or you are not. Anyone who believes they are at risk of harm through wearing such is legally entitled to remove it. That is what the law says in each of the regions, including Wales. The guidance is simply bluster and wishful thinking. Always has been.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  RichardTechnik

The guidance (propaganda) is surely illegal: the gov have never made clear all the rules can be easily avoided, and how…

Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

They cannot deny you entry when you are exempt, no matter what the region govt declared

print off the exempt from face covering section, give it to the person and if they deny you entry get their name, write a letter to the individual that you will be taking legal action

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own

The old bat
4 years ago

I’ve tried to catch covid too, but have failed as far as I know.
My now dead father in law was very hard of hearing and wore 2 hearing aids. He also has alzheimers. His last months on this earth were spent in almost perpetual silence as he was variously either a prisoner in a home or a hospital (no visitors allowed, confined to his room in the home) and whenever someone deigned to give us a ‘zoom’ visit (which is useless for a 94 year old who has never used a device with a screen anyway) we noticed they had never put his hearing aids in. When he returned to hospital (to die) his hearing aids were missing. How long they had been lost we don’t know. With all staff wearing masks he had no idea people were talking to him.
This cruelty is still being inflicted on elderly people. It’s an absolute national disgrace. You would think such behaviour wouldn’t be possible in the 21st century, would you?

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Unfortunately where the NHS is concerned cruelty to older people seems to be their stock in trade

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

The NHS stock in trade is to treat all patients as irritations. I had to have a damaged finger sorted recently, under a local anaesthetic. I drove myself to the hospital, with the finger bandaged to stem the flow of the red stuff. I was told by the nurse that I couldn’t drive myself home after the op. I queried this and an young SHO was brought in to tell me they would not do the operation unless I arranged a lift home. I’ve been driving for longer than that doc had been alive!! It was beyond their intellectual grasp to explain their crass, and frankly outrageous, decision.
They couldn’t give a toss about patients.

Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

Your tale about the hearing aids brought back memories of when my mother (then 89) went into hospital in 2014. She, incidentally, had arthritis in her hips and had her own ‘Zimmer frame’ to aid her walking. In anticipation of physiotherapy after a couple of weeks in bed, we were asked to bring her frame to the hospital and to make sure it was labelled with her full name “so it didn’t get ‘lost'”. We clearly labelled it in at least three places. Over the following week, mother was transferred to a different ward. When we next went to visit, needless to say, there was no sign of her walking frame. We went back to the previous ward but no one claimed to know anything about it and no one showed any inclination to find it for us. It was suggested that we go to the nurse’s station on that ward and ask there. Unlike my attitude these days, being British I felt it necessary to be ever so apologetic for asking about the frame. With some reluctance and aloofness, the nurse made the effort to stand up and eventually found the frame tucked in a corner near to the… Read more »

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  The old bat

You’d think people would be much angrier and would have ripped Boris and pals limb from limb. But they aren’t, and they haven’t.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago

Don’t explain. Ever. “I’m exempt”. If challenged: “My medical information is private. You are breaking disability protection laws by asking for it.”
If harassment continues: “What is your name and position in this company?”

Catee
4 years ago

I’m sorry to hear about the difficulties and unpleasantness you’ve encountered.
I am not hard of hearing but decided some months ago that if they want theatre they can have it, whenever anyone masked speaks to me I look perplexed, ask if they’re talking to me and if they nod, say with a smile “sorry I can’t understand a thing your saying with your face covered up”, the majority apologise and pull the mask down and repeat what they said, those that don’t I just turn from and walk away.

Jane G
Jane G
4 years ago

After 19th July ‘freedom’ day I noticed a change to the notices in shop windows: “Masks Preferred”; “Please Continue to Wear a Mask to Keep Us All Safe”; Masks Optional but Preferred” etc

That’s when I stopped feeling guilty about small businesses going under. These were commercially- produced signs so they’d obviously been planning to use them for some time.

I feel less stressed going bare-faced in a big, impersonal supermarket, and I’ve just shopped less generally since Plan B.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

I too only shop if it is an absolute necessity – while masks are enforced in my area as they are at moment (for a bleeding cold) my days of “browsing for pleasure” in a shop are way behind me. I too find it hard to feel too much sympathy for the small businesses – they don’t have any sympathy for me, and if they began to wake up, see where this was headed, and push back against the stupid rules it would make a big difference.

I take my custom to the shops which don’t enforce all this BS and am happy to support them.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Yes I agree – shopping was never much of a pleasure for me anyway and to be surrounded by masked faces, even less so.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

I still like grocery shopping (in Germany), as it’s the only public place where I can hear live music, and the music in the store I go to is usually pretty good. So I do my little dances with the shopping cart, adding to the overall feeling of madness.

P.S. It just occurred to me that Germany has surpassed Taliban in forbidding live music. Wow.

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

Yes. When I need a new pair of Hogg’s wellies, there’s a local independent shop I go to, solely as a gesture of anti-corporate solidarity. I went in there one morning late summer, after Irreversible Freedom Day, and the owner and assistant were masked. I explained that I was deaf, but it made no difference. Did they have a size 9? A long reply, I think, but I had no idea what it might be. Look, I said, do you have a pair of Hogg’s field boots, size 9? More movement in the mask area. Yes or no? No way of knowing.
I walked out, got them off Amazon a few quid cheaper, and now I hope the shop goes down the drain.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul_Somerset

Unfortunately, it seems the majority think wearing a mask protects them, rather than others. It’s why I’ll never forgive the Nudge Unit people.

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I hadn’t thought of that. It would explain why I’ve never once received any hassle over not wearing a mask. They all think I’m putting myself in danger!

(Having said that, it’s possible that I’ve been receiving all sorts of hassle, but being deaf I’ll never know.)

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

I cannot excuse mask wearers. It is not difficult to find evidence of the futility of their use. Actually, common bloody sense should tell even an average intelligence that they are useless.

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

Our local newsagent was ordered to put up
signs by the council but he doesn’t actually care whether customers have masks or not and he certainly doesn’t try to enforce it.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago

Most shops are making no effort whatsoever to enforce it this time round, fortunately.

Victoria
4 years ago

Yes but he could have added ‘unless exempt’

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

In my mother’s small Cumbrian town a number of small businesses put up hand-written notices saying things like ‘the heartless government say it’s safe to go maskless but we don’t believe them, only masked customers allowed’ but when I was there in the summer almost 100% of the population was masked even after ‘freedom day’, so presumably it’s the same still. Sometimes I’m glad to live in a city. I’ve just returned from Sainsbury’s which was great – they have never hassled me about masks and tonight it was both very quiet and, of the customers there, the majority were unmasked. It was almost like old times.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

Sainsbury’s is far too bloody woke. I stay well clear.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

You’d think they’d be more worried about radioactive leaks from Windscale… oh no, now I’ve just realised what the new variant is going to be – RADIOACTIVE COVID!

Order your Geiger Counter now – from Amazon! Romanian gypsies will bring it to you in their tatty old vans and, if you’re unfortunate, will heave their plastic bottles of piss out of their windows onto your verge.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

I’ve been looking at notices recently. Far more this time seem not to have any mention of exemptions. If I should get challenged in those shops, I shall make a point of raising their non-compliance with the law!

In the local town, the shop where I’ve counted the most notices is WHSmtih, which has six of them (three on and either side of each door). The notices to door ratio is won by the The Works though, which has no fewer than five notices for its single set of doors.

Do they think that ordering people to wear muzzles by means of five notices is actually going to have any more effect than one notice?

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

If two masks are better than one, why not five?

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

The pharmacy today had a fierce Masks Required In This Shop – no mention of exemptions – on a little table selling masks, gel etc by the entrance. I wandered in barefaced, and there was the pharmacist, mask firmly under chin.Theatre. A lot of shops with many notices think the whole thing’s a farce when you talk to them.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Maybe it’s mask manufacturers… “TRUSTED PPE”…. desperate to perpetuate their fraud?

You will not not not wear no mask!

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

I had a t-shirt made stating ‘Boris is a liar’ in bold print front and back.
That was my supermarket atire as I went around without a mask.
No one gave me any shit at any point but then I do have the advantage of looking like a thug.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

A statement everyone can agree with. Well done for bringing everyone together!

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago

My sister (who I suspect is slightly psychic) tells me of a strange experience she had this past week. Walking around a local supermarket, suddenly she was struck by how the mostly masked shoppers there were acting like a group of zombies, like in a surreal play. That came to mind when reading the above and its author comments on the paradox of people going through the motions (almost in a ritualistic manner), whilst not actually looking fearful. The ‘covid theatre of the absurd’ is a good way of putting it.

Incidentally, I have started re-reading a lovely little look entitled The Extraordinary Healing Power of Ordinary Things by Larry Dossey M.D. Dossey is a one of those rare creatures, a medic who thinks well outside the box. One chapter is entitled ‘Risk’; this is something he knows about, having been on the frontline in the Vietnam War, helping wounded soldiers. It starts with a quote from Craig Murray Hopper (Rear Admiral, US Navy): ‘A ship in port is safe, but that’s not what ships are for’.

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  beornwulf

My sister (who I suspect is slightly psychic) tells me of a strange experience she had this past week. Walking around a local supermarket, suddenly she was struck by how the mostly masked shoppers there were acting like a group of zombies, like in a surreal play.

Really strange, this. I was in our local M&S Food Hall last Monday, happened to glance at the duty-manager- and saw her in front of me, clear as day, as she’ll be in thirty years’ time. Why do these things happen?

John Dee
4 years ago

If you’re in a M&S Food Hall and you can tell who is the duty manager, you’re probably psychic anyway.

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago

I cannot explain why these things happen; life can be mighty mysterious at times. This was a good omen though – at least the duty manager will survive covid and the death-jab.

zebedee
zebedee
4 years ago

When the mask mandate came in I went to a haberdashers and bought some black gauze and elastic and made my own. So not only following the law but the science as well.

PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  zebedee

An old cut up lacey string bag also works well, I find. The upshot is it has the Lynx effect, with lot’s of hot chicks throwing themselves at me.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

I used a gauze jam strainer for while.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  zebedee

I asked the lady next door if she had any old knickers she didn’t want any more. We haven’t spoken since

Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  zebedee

and complied with the Government instruction – exactly the same as wearing a cloth mask!

At least you felt that you proved something, but you didn’t

RW
RW
4 years ago

Good read. Thanks for sharing.

Drew63
Drew63
4 years ago

I think part of the problem is that the vast majority of British people are law-abiding, and – this is most important – don’t want to be seen as causing a fuss. The English habit of passive-aggressive behaviour in response to impositions on their rights, personal space, etc. is for me – a relative newcomer to these shores – a source of considerable frustration. People will moan endlessly to their spouses and friends about the neighbour whose car parking or rubbish-handling isn’t up to par. But when you suggest directly addressing the problem – like going and talking to the person concerned – they look at you as if you’d suggested committing murder. People dutifully don their wretched masks as they shuffle into Tesco or Waitrose because they don’t want to be seen as troublemakers. They would be mortified if confronted by one of the Jobsworths tasked with enforcing a mask mandate. Causing a fuss is something other people do. Football hooligans or skinheads presumably. England is, in some strange ways, somewhat similar to Japan in this respect. A culture that values and supports the group over the individual. And a culture like that breeds an inborn disinclination to make… Read more »

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

I think you are right. But every other nation seems to be doing the same!

Drew63
Drew63
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I’ll readily concede that “face covering” is a global menace.

But I do have to contrast Britain with the U.S., where there are vast swathes of society, and the political establishment, that vociferously protest against mask mandates. Several US states have enacted legislation specifically against mask wearing.

There doesn’t appear to be any similar organised political opposition to masks here in the UK.

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

The American people have a Constitutionally-codified right to freedom of speech. In this country, there are things our masters permit us to say and things they don’t. When you’ve been brought up from birth in one or other of these jurisdictions, it’s not something you need think about- it’s just the water that you as a fish swim in.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

British way of resisting is to avoid embarrassment and too much confrontation for sure…

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

This is why there are some ‘resisters’ who still wear masks at times.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Germany has made it easier for me to resist since they have mandated FFP2 masks here. Now I still wear the old medical mask (the same and only mask which was gifted to me 2 years ago!) – exactly for the reason described above: I don’t wish to freak out fanatics and to cause trouble or force difficult decisions for the staff, who I see as another victim of this regime, not my enemy.

But by my wearing the “wrong” (or rather “previously officially recommended”) mask type, everyone can infer my opinion about the mandate. I believe it’s also more effective of a nudge to other maskers than going into full confrontation maskless mode because it confuses them more (they cannot just write off the wrong mask wearer as “one of the bad guys” – instead they have to ponder their own repeated compliance, which is exactly the point).

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Careful there – no legislation against mask wearing has been passed anywhere (this is what covidians would like you to believe). The only actual legislation out there is against people forcing others to wear masks (which is exactly as it should be).

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

As I was saying yesterday to my good friend Liam, English people grumble to one another, rather than upwards. Because they have been educated and socialised since birth to be, not polite, but deferential.

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago

That’s not necessarily true. Remember this country once had a nasty civil war that resulted in a higher casualty rate (per population) than the Great War. Deference to king and aristocracy went by the board then. More recently, if anything, it’s morphed into a tolerance of the knobs. That may be the result of seeing how things are worse abroad when the guillotines and firing squads get going and end up killing all and sundry.

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Good point but sometimes you have to take on a problem head-on. I once had an anti-social neighbour in a cul-de-sac where parking was limited. He consistently parked right outside his door, wasting valuable space for others to utilise. I eventually had had enough and spoke to him about it. A reasonable request led to an outright row and he even threatened to call the police. However, it worked, because after that he started parking more sensibly and we got to talking like normal people do, as if nothing had happened. Avoiding a problem never solves it.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

It all depends. Long ago, there was a restaurant near us that served lousy food. People didn’t complain at the time, but they told all their acquaintances about the lousy food. The restaurant went out of business before the year was out.

zners
zners
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Nailed it. “Get over it whats the big deal” mentality. If only they understood the big picture…

tony rattray
4 years ago

I’ve been constantly challenged for not wearing a mask in scotland. Top three as follows (no joke): 1. Train. Middle aged women actually looking out for people not wearing a mask. Over 2 metres away, but stood up and shouted I am not sitting near a person not wearing a mask and ran into the next carriage. I completely ignored her. 2. Train. I was reported to a guard by a middle aged women. As nearby, heard her say that she did not feel safe and had not left her house for the last year to travel. This being her first trip. Guard stated I’ve been working for the last year and some people are exempt. She replied he is not exempt! I again completely ignored her. 3. I was walking a trail along the coast of the far north of scotland and found a small village shop. Middle aged female shop keeper barked on entry wash your hands. I stated this was not legally required and would not be doing so. Her reply – then I will phone the police. My reply – it’s not illegal. Her reply – then get out my shop. The real odd bit was… Read more »

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  tony rattray

I note the gender of all the complainants that you cite without comment.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
4 years ago

Why are you saying gender rather than sex?

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

I havered before posting. I’d like to be able to mean “sex”, but one doesn’t know these days.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

No sex please, we’re British.

tony rattray
4 years ago

Yes, I noted it, but don’t want a police visit. Wee krankie would clearly label me a “lockdown sceptic misogynist”.

Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  tony rattray

3. I was walking a trail along the coast of the far north of scotland and found a small village shop. Middle aged female shop keeper barked on entry wash your hands. I stated this was not legally required and would not be doing so. Her reply – then I will phone the police. My reply – it’s not illegal. Her reply – then get out my shop. The real odd bit was her partner watching me leave the village at the shop door. Clearly I was an outsider carrying the plague.
Conclusion – bitterness!

Shades of Royston Vasey there: “It’s a local shop for local people. There’s nothing for you here”.

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

There’s nothing that can be done for such people.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

Tony should have asked for ‘special stuff’!!

Wilko
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

” We didn’t burn him”…….

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

I remember a work colleague, who clearly liked his ale, telling me about going into an out-of-the-way pub and asking for a pint. What he was served was off and when he complained the licensee denied it, saying he was free to leave. As he left through the door he could hear laughter erupt from the other local customers.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  tony rattray

Bitter – absolutely. But they can’t begin to verbalise their issues, can they? So they attack a maskless person – who is free – to ‘get revenge’ because they themselves are in bondage – despite being ‘right’!

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  tony rattray

The terror of middle aged provincial women – not all – is extraordinary. They really are expecting imminent death.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

And it would be such a pity to disappoint them.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  tony rattray

‘Very well, then, phone the police!’

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  tony rattray

Another conclusion? Thick as a plank and thus believes propaganda?

amanuensis
4 years ago

It is a fascinating issue.

Humans appear to have a genetic predisposition to believe in what used to be called the miasma as the causative factor for disease. Indeed, we still have remnants of this in the name of the disease malaria — literally ‘bad air’.

Thus when a new disease came along everyone was predisposed to want to wear masks and screens, to stop the ‘bad air’ from getting to them. They weren’t so interested in finding out where diseases actually came from, because it stood to reason that it was the miasma.

The reality that cheap fabric facemasks don’t protect at all, and even fancy medical facemasks offer only puny protection, wasn’t important — as I was told by a senior local government official in late 2020 ‘of course facemasks work — it stands to reason that they’ll prevent the spread of covid’. Her reason clearly didn’t include science.

I’m only surprised that people aren’t walking around with a little posy of thyme under their nose to help scare off the badness.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

I remember myself considering face covering briefly before the first mask mandate was introduced anywhere. I very quickly discarded the idea after informing myself about why it would not work (and even reassured myself back then – “of course, silly me, if they worked, all the experts would have already recommended them, after all”). You can imagine my surprise when the same non-working masks were made obligatory a month later or so.

I also remember wondering about the social ramifications (what if someone refuses? will they be stigmatized?) and about why these topics were not even touched upon in the infamous WHO pro-mask paper (if I can immediately predict what potential for causing social strife this law has, where are all the expert sociologists/psychologists voicing their concerns?)

REMiller
REMiller
4 years ago

I have only worn a mask a handful of times (usually when visiting a hospital or care home) and I have also almost never had any pushback from anyone. When I go to the local shops, I make a point of smiling at people and chatting with the staff. I have always considered this to be a way I can show people that the ‘old normal’ still exists if they want to go back to it.

I will never forget the time in Sainsbury’s just after the mask mandates were brought in, when I walked past a father with two children, aged about 9 or 10. All three were wearing masks. When the children saw I wasn’t wearing a mask they cowered away from me behind their father. The fear in their eyes was heartbreaking. We have to stop this.

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  REMiller

Every word of this, Mr. Miller.

REMiller
REMiller
4 years ago

Mrs, actually, but I have no objection to being misgendered in a good cause. 😁

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  REMiller

Delighted to make your acquaintance, Mrs. Miller.

REMiller
REMiller
4 years ago

You too!

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  REMiller

When I was walking across one of the Hungerford footbridges (I won’t call it a “Golden Jubilee” bridge), the rule dictated that one had to walk on the left side, with the right side reserved for pedestrians who were walking in the opposite direction (so it was on their left). I walked on the right side, partly because I don’t like the authorities telling me what side of the pavement I should walk on (does this attitude need explaining nowadays?!) and because I’m acquainted with behavioural conditioning techniques, but mostly because the right side had fewer people on it and I wanted to get to the Charing Cross side fast. Unfortunately this action of mine which no sane person could possibly have called disrespectful to any other walker, caused one woman who was walking in the opposite direction – and to whom I never came closer than about 5-6 feet – to have a sort of mild panic attack and her male companion to call after me (in a non-aggressive way, and as if I were mentally retarded) that “You’ve got to walk on the left”.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Reminds me of a post here back in the very early days of this madness. Person walking in a shop ignoring the arrows on the floor. Shouted at by staff member “Didn’t you see the arrows?” Replied “I didn’t even see the Indians” Still has the prize, to me, for the best ever mockery 🤣🤣

Star
4 years ago

I was about to praise the Royal College of Nurses until I read this: “The RCN will continue to work with employers to mitigate the impact on members’ employment, as far as possible. The RCN recognises however, there may be consequences for members at work, if they have not been vaccinated. Once the legislation is in force, there will be little the RCN can do unless there are clinical reasons why staff cannot have the vaccine, or the employer has not followed a fair dismissal process. There are limited legal remedies available for those who remain unvaccinated and staff will face the prospect of dismissal as a result of the amended regulations. There has been a judicial review application in relation to the introduction of the regulations on the 11 November 2021. This application included human rights and equality issues and it was unsuccessful.” (Emphasis added.) That’s funny, because I thought those who provided their labour were in a position where they might possibly be able to consider collectively withdrawing it. Certainly members of a staff association trade union can in most circumstances resign their membership and start discussing, organising, and acting with each other without reference to the officials in… Read more »

WilliamC
WilliamC
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

They could also join the Workers of England Union which supports workers threatened by employers’ ‘no jab, no job’ policies.

ElSabio
4 years ago

I imagine that BJ and company laughed their boozed-soaked socks off when they saw just how easily led was their flock of gullible sheep:

https://www.today.com/popculture/uk-social-distancing-concert-offers-glimpse-future-events-t189312

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Star
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

“Social distancing” continues the advance that the rulers made using mobile phones.

If you’ve got two cretins at a restaurant table both picking their phones and completely ignoring each other, they might as well have a perspex screen between them – or eat cardboard for that matter, perhaps while looking at some tastier food on Youtube and muttering to themselves between munches.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  ElSabio

I’m seeing the photo of the concert (?). But my brain just keeps rebooting at the sight of it!

That’s one image I wish I hadn’t seen. Bugger, indellibly imprinted now. Jeeeeeeeezuzzzzz!

crisisgarden
4 years ago

The fences were actually installed to contain their virtuousness/egos/carbon emissions.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Very good.

JMR747
JMR747
4 years ago

Sadly here in Texas despite no enforceable mask mandate the number of muzzled sheep seems to be increasing. In certain Houston stores such as Costco I estimate 80%+ obscure their faces, yet in my small town Walmart outside the city it is less than 20%.

My mother shops in Waitrose in a wealthy UK Midland commuter town and she is the only un-masked person. My sister finds in Asda, Corby just ten miles away some customers and many staff remain facial nappy free.

There does seem to be a demographic divide, with well to do white collar workers the most likely to unthinkingly follow governments ever changing guidance – I don’t know why that is.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  JMR747

Some shoppers in Waitrose were brought up to have, and continue to feed with a characteristic combination of pride and disgust, multiple connections in their brains between the notions of “hoi polloi”, other supermarkets (Tesco, Lidl, etc.), filth, infectious disease, public transport, and what the Nazis called “untermenschen” (subhumans).

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

My local Waitrose was still about 90% masked up long after ‘freedom day’.

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  JMR747

I suspect a correlation with wokeness. The middle and upper-lower classes have been subjected to years of woke nonsense in their workplaces. Their brains are now programmed to accept utterly illogical instructions with any questioning whatsoever.

Bungle
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

I am woke and have never worn a mask.If you’ve got a hypothesis, go and test it before you talk abusive nonsense.

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  JMR747

Waitrose is mainly patronised by the ‘work from home’ laptop warriors who are the strongest adherents to the Covidian Cult!

Poppy CH
Poppy CH
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Very true, and Asda is patronised by people who have probably spent the last 20 months in jobs where they didn’t have the luxury of sitting on their sofas passing judgement on the lacking morale compass of those people who “didn’t follow the rules”. They don’t comprehend that people who aren’t in the laptop class have used their own eyes and ears and worked out a long time ago that their wasn’t anything to fear.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  JMR747

Americans are notoriously fat and stupid. This doesn’t surprise me at all

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
4 years ago
Reply to  JMR747

“in Waitrose in a wealthy UK Midland commuter town”

Market Harborough?

zners
zners
4 years ago
Reply to  JMR747

Apparently the educated are more likely to fall under mass psychosis (matthias Desmet recently mentioned this, quoting Gustav Le Bon). Note “educated”, not intelligent. The higher the intelligence, the less likely one will follow orders. The sharper the primal instinct of an individual, also the less likely they’ll fall for this sht. Basically, the majority of “white collar” types form the new age idiocracy. Sociopathic who idolise those with money and status up the corporate hierarchy

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  JMR747

Simple, the white collar “elite” are more likely to believe the government is on their side and protecting their interests (which is even true, at least compared to blue collar workers). So it makes sense to show loyalty – also to demonstrate their own elevated social status (elevated above the blue collar serfs, that is).

hadenoughcrap
hadenoughcrap
4 years ago
Reply to  JMR747

Maybe its all those who have moved in from democrat states still following the stupidity of what they left behind

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago

I’ve never worn a mask , I always thought it was an outrageous imposition and find the blind obedience incomprehensible. My attitude has always been “do not comply with the lie”.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Can’t believe people are still falling for this mumbo jumbo.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

50% of the British population might as well just be turned into compost.

Garfy1967
Garfy1967
4 years ago

I’ve never worn a mask since day one, but that is besides the point. Here’s the weird thing…masks are not required in hospitality settings and yet the pubs and restaurants I frequent in my corner of the Home Counties and also in London still have a high percentage of people that deem it necessary to don a mask on entry or whenever they approach the bar or go to the toilet. They do so either with a look of smug superiority and virtue signalling on full beam or with a look of fear that if they don’t wear a mask that they are going to be instantly arrested, struck by lightning or judged by the the other patrons as some sort of uncaring scum. Or perhaps they honestly believe that they will catch Covid and die the moment they stand up without a face nappy on. Whatever the excuse, I do believe that most people don’t even know what the f*ck they’re doing anymore, let alone the reasons why.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Garfy1967

Its hilarious that you can sit unmuzzled and be safe and but stand unmuzzled and you’re unsafe. The logic is beyond madness

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Same as the way the unjabbed could sit in a cafe or coffee shop all day without being a threat to anyone but become a deadly disease spreader the moment they attempt to put a toe in the door of licensed premises (according to the devolved govt of NI – some might say deranged govt)

I just can’t get my head around it. That virus is a clever bugger.

TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Its the same nonsense south of the border. Apparently the virus has changed its hours of work. The virus starts its shift at 8pm, hence the need for a curfew at that time.

On a positive note, I hear more and more people who are willing to openly question this farce. There’s hope yet, although not enough of it.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  TSull

Hello TSull

I’m surprised the deranged govt of NI hasn’t co-opted that curfew from down south – here’s hoping they don’t get ideas!

And people cannot see how daft it all is – up here at least. I don’t see ANY signs of people seeing through it or questioning it. Other than on here!

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Standing unmuzzled releases more noxious breath at ‘head-height’. Sitting is okay, as such breath never rises to the dreaded level.

Sounds plausible, but I am being sarcastic.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

What about a ‘little person’? (is it ok to say that?)

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Dwarves? They are exempt due to ‘vertical difference’, however they may ask at the bar for a short podium if they identify as high-ly noxious, in order to exhale at parity with cis-tallies.

No sarcasm 😉

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

You could get a job as a public health policy sustainability coordinator.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

The logic of the domestic animal. You don’t expect what you’re told to do to make sense, because you are incapable of thinking in those terms, or at all. You do it because They own you, body and soul.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I asked a muzzled friend (in a café) what he thought happened to the air in the place. There was a kitchen fan that could be heard (so sizeable) and every time the street door opened a draught of air blew some more of the room air over toward the preparation area. We were sitting in a moving conveyor of whatever was in the air around us. He remained attached to his mask whenever he wasn’t stuffing his mouth with sandwich, breathing the same air as me, but with slightly more effort.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  Garfy1967

Whenever I see someone do that, I call them a stupid cunt. Their look of superiority collapses into a look of abject fear in an instant.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Garfy1967

Few, if any, have grasped that the masks are intended (whether they do or not) to protect others. They wipe down table tennis gear (including the tables!) at the sports centre I frequent. This despite zero evidence that surface-contact infections have ever been proved.
If only I’d bought shares in hand-gel and disinfectant manufacturers a couple of years ago!

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago

I resolved I would no longer ‘mask up’ (there must be some strong contenders but has a more loathsome phrase entered the language in the Covid era?)”
I particularly dislike the term ‘face-covering’ I don’t know why. Then there is ‘Build Back Better’ and ‘new normal’ with their spooky globalist World Economic Forum cabal, not to mention Dr No connotations, along with ‘World Economic Forum’ itself, and as someone else here pointed out last week, ‘stay safe’. Oh yes and ‘booster’ when we know it’s not actually a booster, just another armful of mRNA.

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Don’t get me started on ‘stay safe’

John001
John001
4 years ago

My standard reply:

Stay sane (and a short explanation.)

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

Love it!

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

My sister says this too!

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

And when people give you some food and say “Enjoy!”

What if I don’t want to enjoy eating it?

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Well ,” have a good rest of the day” anyway.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Don’t forget the UK Health ‘Security’ Agency.

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Yes indeed, more spookiness from the government, as if we needed any more.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

I’ve never heard a downhome utterance that beat the Beverly Hillbillies’ “y’all come back, now – hear?”

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

I’m still waiting the the first movie in which a hoodlum character clutches at his crotch and utters the riposte ‘Build Back This!’.

twinkytwonk
4 years ago

In a cafe today I was amazed to see 50 odd people during in a 400 sq ft area maskless. Then a family , got masked up and walked 5ft to the exit and then removed the masks. What has happened to common sense?

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

I’ve seen this before too with people sitting at a table by the door who dutifully put their muzzle on, walk 2 metres and then immediately take them off outside. They are exactly the people who in the 60’s Milgram shock experiment willingly electrocuted unseen people to death on instruction by authority figures. Dangerous, dangerous people when exposed to fascism.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Properly messes with the head doesn’t it?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago

This messes with your head:

In the gym which has a full wall window looking on to reception and entrance and an exercise room facing full of zumba, or some such, ladies.

Ladies approach the entrance and put their fashion masks on. They greet each other with hugs before going in to class for some shake it all about. In class they space six feet apart on their mats and take off their masks, they pant and sweat for 45 minutes and then leave, making sure to sanitise hands before re-affixing masks.

I’m NOT kidding.

Poppy CH
Poppy CH
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

My favourite was watching teenagers stood taking on a beach in spain in the summer with masks on and pulling them down to take a puff on cigarettes, exhaling, then pull them back up. I’ve never seen an assessment of risk so far out of whack!

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Ladies’ exercise classes are really group therapy, so herd behaviour is to be expected.
I regularly see groups of overweight women being ‘trained’ in parks by shouty men who look vaguely ‘military’ (camo gear and gangsta tats). The idea that such exercise would reverse all those trips to the larder is laughable. I bet they all repair to a caff for latte and cheesecake once they’ve got their breath back.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

The common no longer have it.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Common sense isn’t very common!

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

I see similar time and time again. It beggars belief.

SJR
SJR
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

The virus is pretty stupid, and can’t infect you if you’re sitting down eating or drinking. It becomes extremely infectious if you stand up though!

At least that’s the only explanation I can figure out based on observed masking behaviour.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  SJR

Doesn’t that make the virus very clever??!!

SJR
SJR
4 years ago

These mask restrictions are all madness anyway. Totally inconsistent, and different settings have wildly different rates of wear.

This morning, supermarket shopping. Half empty, 99% of customers masked, felt like a zombie apocalypse.

This afternoon, having a meal in Wetherspoons. Packed out, almost as busy as pre-covid. 99% of customers and staff unmasked. Felt normal.

It makes no sense! I imagine that many of those pub customers have been wearing masks in supermarkets too. Bonkers.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  SJR

I go into the local ‘Spoons for breakfast sometimes. Quite noticeable that there’s hardly ever anyone wearing a face nappy in there. Just wish they’d get rid of all the bloody perspex screens.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

We like Wetherspoons too. I’d like to know why they stopped the barbecued ribs though…

John001
John001
4 years ago

BBC R4 has a programme about Novak Djokovic on at the moment, if anyone can bear the BBC.

I’ve exceeded one day’s quota of it (about an hour, in 2022).

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

I regret to inform you that you can’t have that hour back.

NeilParkin
4 years ago

I think its about time the Nudge Unit started giving us positive nudges back towards people living a normal and confident life.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

Before or after said unit is arrested…?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Hear, hear.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

It is going to take more than a nudge – I’ve been trying to nudge peeps since partygate in December but no one is biting. My one woman nudge unit doesn’t have half the success of that lot in Downing St. More like a giant kick up the backside is going to be required.

They might cop on when restrictions are put on buying booze [but only for plebs not elite or politicians you understand – how would they get any work done without it seemingly?] – Vernon Coleman is predicting it and so far he hasn’t been wrong about any of it.

They might wake up a bit when UBI kicks in and they are told they will own nothing and be happy but it will be too late by then, and by that stage those that are left will be so zombified by their jabs that they will probably shrug their shoulders and say “s’okay then”!

CovidiotAntiMasker
CovidiotAntiMasker
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFWXWUe83Zc&t=2s Morgoths Review explains why nothing you say has any influence . He’s very good.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago

It is quite simple. Do what you want, when you want and if anybody ever should challenge you then you tell them to Fuck Off. I appreciate some people don’t like conflict, but it is two words that clarifies your stance and spits on the tyranny at the same time.

Dave Angel Eco Warrior
Dave Angel Eco Warrior
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

It works both ways. Many people are wearing masks because they believe it is a way of avoiding conflict that they imagine will occur if they don’t. I never get challenged simply because no one wants the conflict. I have never seen one instance where a maskless individual has been challenged. I am sure there has been such but I can honestly say I’ve never witnessed one.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago

I used to get it often during the previous muzzle-mandate. Not this time though – people seem to have enough and I’ve only been challenged once (I made it clear that I was not happy about this). Even the local chippy, which was a bastion of jobsworthery (notices, one-way systems, one at a time in the counter area, always asking about masks) no longer seems to give a shit and is back to normal.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Reminds me of a notice I saw in one chippy (Grange Over Sands?0: “This isn’t Burger King – you have it our way or not at all” (or something like that).

I used to see a Light magazine in a takeaway near us sometimes. I’ve never had an issue in any takeaway I’ve been in.

Right, back to my 40’s film – proper old normal!

Garfy1967
Garfy1967
4 years ago

Think of all the lives mask wearing has saved! I get quite emotional thinking about it.