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Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

” “The Government must commit to learning to live with Covid” – The Cabinet concedes that Covid is now a relatively mild endemic disease to which we will have to adapt, but only up to a point, and it needs to go further, says the Telegraph in its leading article. “

There is nothing to learn to live with.

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hail
hail
4 years ago

Covid vaccination during pregnancy might be associated with a 33% increased risk of stillbirth

It’s funny but this kind of early finding was already current on the Vaccine-skeptic scene in spring 2021, I am pretty sure. Someone can check when the first references to it were.

It goes without saying, there never should have been any corona-injections into a typical healthy person under age x — with x=45 at the very lowest, and perhaps x=75 not at all impossible. We knew this was a realistic risk-benefit calculation very early. We didn’t need vaccine studies to make such best-guesses. Why did ‘we’ do this?

the other funny thing is, I am pretty sure I remember authoritative “EXPERTS SAY…”-style articles demanding pregnant women and children all get vaccinated for their own safety, even as late as Dec 2021.

The Corona psychological puzzle goes on.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

When vaccines were first rolled out ‘for the over 75s only’ (Autumn 2020?) the producers specifically warned on the box that they had not been tested on pregnant women and that they were not recommended for those intending to become pregnant.

hail
hail
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Now that you mention it, I recall those messages from the early days of the vaccines but it feels like I stopped hearing anything like that sometime in mid-2021.

The first vaccines for the general population in age-brackets which include women who are or might become pregnant were only rolling out by around April/May 2021.

If my memory is right on when I STOPPED hearing anything about ‘these perfect-miracle-vaccines haven’t been tested properly on pregnant women’, it means they stopped saying anything like in a matter of weeks or several months at most after the relevant start-point.

Also I am quite sure at some point some health authorities began declaring them ‘Safe,’ starting about late summer 2021, after a long period of silence.

(Checking…)

Yes. Sept 2021. US CDC cheered by media for explicitly endorsing corona-needles for pregnant people: ‘the…vaccine is safe for a pregnant person and their baby.’ (I do believe ‘pregnant person’ also covers ‘pregnant women’).

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

March April 2021 is when my current medical problems started so I was out of touch for some months only getting back here to what had become DS in mid summer. Since I no longer drive I do not subject myself to Radio 4 news in the morning or Jeremy Vine on Radio 2 in the afternoon so am not as up to date with the outside world except as it is discussed here.

I am not surprised at your finding that correct gendering is now more important than correct medical identification.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They were not tested on the vulnerable, either.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

December 8th, the first one. Winter for me, but some call it Autumn…

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

Isn’t it also a strange coincidence that Pravda and others are currently trying to pressure pregnant mothers again, right as it is also being confirmed that the “vaccines” cause stillbirth?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59930786

hail
hail
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

The disconnect between reality and Corona-discourse is nothing new, and all appearances are the loyalists (who remain powerful) continue to chant the incantations of the Covid-Religion even as the heretics and wavering doubters or outright-disloyal non-believers seem to be everywhere.

A state cult can’t just start announcing “sorry about all that, we were wrong!”

Mark
4 years ago

Look, it’s that thing that we were all told would never happen.

The slippery slope, that the radicals always insist is “a fallacy”, in inevitable action, as the decline of western civilisation continues apace.

Man Jailed For Misgendering

There’s an American establishment conservative called Rod Dreher who used to talk about the “Law Of Merited Impossibility”:

“It will never happen, and when it does, you bigots will deserve it.”

Does the Free Speech Union have a Norwegian branch?

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The dictionary definition of totalitarianism. Until the totalitarians change the dictionary definition, of course.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

IMHO. If someone lawfully/medically/socially regenders themselves to the opposite sex they should be protected from harassment about that just like anybody else. I would not harass an openly gay person unless they flaunted their sexuality at me even though they knew that their attentions were not welcome. In which case I might resort to “F*ck off, you homo twat” because sexuality is central to my objections to their behaviour and they know it. However, if they voluntarily enter into a discussion (be that on telly media, online or a live debate) grandstanding their decision, encouraging others to do likewise or insulting regendering hesitation then they must expect others to disagree with them to a point that they might find insulting. That is called open debate and freedom of expression. Although it is not entirely clear, in this case it appears that the discussion was about the actions of Oslo City Council (cleaning the roads, licensing gay or transgender nightclubs?) during which the prosecuted man chose to use the complainants regendered status purely as a means of insult which, in my view, is no different to calling someone a bloody queer or indeed N*gg*r in the course of an unrelated discussion.… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

How long ago was it that a Myspace complaint to the Police

my boyfriend called me a slag on Friends Reunited an’ i want ‘m busted, yeah”

was regarded as an outlandish impossibility?

hail
hail
4 years ago

Academic raised the alarm about a potential new variant

Is there now a class of person out there which will reliably get scared by the announcement of a new flu ‘variant’ and in pavlovian style demand more injections, masks, lockdowns, angry rain-dances against the Unvaxxed, and permanent health-passes?

How big is this class of person?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

‘Academic raised the alarm. . .’ Source please. Oh yes, halfway down the Roundup, Telegraph. Can’t read it because paywall. I used to buy the print version 2-3 times a week until March 2020 when it became all Covid bollocks Frenzy. “is there now a class of person which will get reliably get scared get themselves noticed by announcing a new flu ‘variant’ and in pavlovian style embark on a well rewarded series of TV interviews and lucrative internet, print articles demanding more injections, masks, lockdowns, angry rain-dances against the Unvaxxed and permanent health-passes?” “How big is this class of person?” As big as the media continues to finance them supported by a Government which sees it as in their interest to prolong the whole phoney ‘pandemic’ for as long as possible which probably means until 6 months before the next general election giving them time to declare it all over thanks to the measures undertaken by their very selves “Vote For Us, we cured the Pandemic !” “No! Vote for US! We would have ended Pandemic sooner by incarcerating filthy anti-vaxxers!” “No! Vote for US. We will strip anti-vaxxers of human rights and deport them to Antarctica thus eliminating… Read more »

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

“Academic”. That suffices. Just ignore.

hail
hail
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

alternate title could use “Expert.”

sample headline:

“An Expert has declared a new flu variant cause for major alarm, urges panic.”

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup 1. Economist
Ending free Lateral Flow tests would be as much an epidemiological decision as it is financial”.

It will be neither, rather an entirely political decision recognising that the Pandemic, such as it was, is long over. It does not recognize that free Lateral Flow tests have themselves been responsible for the delay in recognising this for well over a year.

Encouraging people to self test twice a week, even if only 14% of such tests were registered, allowed those same people to skive off work and enabled the governments of the UK to carry on pretending that Covid was a real and present danger and so carry on with their pantomime lockdown provisions at the cost of soul destroying restrictions on individual liberties and actual destruction of otherwise viabl job creating businesses and enterprises.

Not only that, almost all the profits went to Chinese providers of Lateral Flow tests; why only one UK company proved capable of supplying such tests is not yet clear.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Top Research Chief for India: Merck’s Molnupiravir has ‘Major Safety Concerns’” – The Head of the Indian Council of Medical Research has warned that the approved Covid treatment “can cause teratogenicity and mutagenicity and cause cartilage damage and be damaging to the muscles” and can also harm unborn children, reports TrialSite News.

The side effects of this very dangerous drug have been known about for months and months, if not longer. If I knew about it, then so did governments when they rolled its use out. This is a crime against humanity.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

There have been so many instances where harms have been reported on sites such as this and become common knowledge among its readers; no doubt with some engaging in actual fact checking.
Eventually one of our MSM spies might reveal something of it and only then does the government, academia or the medical world admit to its possibility following “new research”.

I can recall a number of times thinking

‘hold on, I remember reading about that months ago at lockdown/dailysceptic’.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

BBC broadcaster Nigel Rees quit after 46 years over ‘diversity drive’” – Presenter of Radio 4 show Quote… Unquote said he felt pressured to invite diverse speakers who were not necessarily most suitable guests, reports the Telegraph.

I’d love to read those emails.

“Nigel, we love your show, but notice you haven’t had any avant-garde homosexual beat poets of colour on yet.”

“Boss, after a desperate search to fulfil the politburo’s quota requirements, I’m sayd to report I can’t find any avant-garde homosexual beat poets of colour.”

“Nigel, your failure to find an avant-garde homosexual beat poet of colour or other similar higher caste guests may indicate a troubling latent racism on your part. The Party no longer requires you. Clear your desk. Thnx.”

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

As though the beeb care, just another Gone Gammon.

btw Boss, ‘avant-gard’ and ‘homosexual’
both reek of honkey, kindly replace with boomshacka and battyman.
“Beat Poets” is too redolent of 1950s-60s Britain which of course was sadly lacking in todays creative explosion of cultural diversity and is thus to be avoided.

Top Boss.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Best to completely ignore the BBC. It’s a lost cause.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

That’s no way to talk about Alan Ginsberg 😉

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

A virtue signalling scuzzball, Emily Sheffield, said in the London Evening Standard (LES): 1.      “The time for gentle coaxing is over — the unvaccinated of this city need to pay with their freedoms, not ours.” 2. “The booster programme is estimated to cut the risk of hospitalisation by 88 per cent… and our incredible vaccination programme has ended mass deaths.” 3. “In Italy, they are making it law to be vaccinated if you are over 50.” 4. “A mix of willful ignorance, obstinacy and selfish stupidity is causing real harm …”   Some would think Sheffield is an eager little Communist, Fascist, Collectivist or Totalitarianist.   They’d probably be wrong. Sheffield most likely is just a super-dumb girlish brat that simply doesn’t know the demonic implications of promoting and endorsing the kind of doctrine that the likes of Stalin and Hitler rose to power on.   One result of the Long March through the Institutions is formerly worthwhile newspapers like the LES employing dumb-asses like Emily Sheffield and allowing them to virtue signal by publishing dangerous tripe.     (The dumb-asses get to virtue signal to their cronies, and the Cabal achieves its sought for humiliating propaganda and indoctrination.)   Another result… Read more »

john ball
john ball
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

I have stopped picking up the ES even though free, but my wife succombed on Friday so we read the appalling article,but she will not make the same mistake again.With similar articles in Mail Telegraph Mirror Express I have complained to Independant Press Standards Office https://www.ipso.co.uk/complain/ but cannot for ES as they are not a member of IPSO

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Quick little search on Emily Sheffield revealed, amongst other things, that she’s the daughter of Sir Reginald Sheffield, 8th Baronet. Her mother has remarried, to an Astor, and Emily’s sister is Samantha Cameron.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

THE ANTI-VAXXER ARMY as the daily mail puts it.

  • Alpha Men Assemble organise military-style training sessions for anti-vaxxers as part of ‘war’ on Government
  • Daily Mail reporter infiltrated the group where former members of the Armed Forces drill its own volunteers
  • Group has more than 7,000 subscribers on its Telegram social media app and 100 members attended training
  • Senior member insists the training and drills are ‘non-combative and are in no way to be linked to extremism’

Mixed reviews by readers.

“Why does the DM never do one of these stories/infiltration jobs on Extinction Rebellion and other far left wing cells that, you know, actually contribute to the downfall of society?”

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I just wish they would report on what the government is actually doing & not parroting what they’re telling them to write.

DS99
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Maybe it’s time to put our focus where it belong, on alternative media sources (recent viewing/reading figures suggest a massive move from mainstream to alternative media across the board) rather than mainstream media. A recent quote I saw likened it to wanting to hear “I love you” from the lying bad ex boyfriend rather than focusing on the nice guy who values us and treats us with respect.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  DS99

Oh I don’t read the DM, i’d be suffering PTSD if I did.

Each morning, I visit a handful of websites to see the headlines & to get a feel of what’s happening. I utterly detest the DM, but it tends to collate the most headlines. There are news aggregator sites, but I hate trawling through all the leftist detritus.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I don’t read newspapers. Or buy them. Sports reports is all. MSM long ago lost. Places such as here are where I get my news. The rest can all fuck off. Junked the 15 years ago. BBC radio sport only, R3 dumbing down at a rate of knots, all fucking “mixtapes” whatever they are.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Simon Heffer once described the BBC as being worth it because of the Proms. Probably not even that these days though.

hail
hail
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Many are now saying the Kazakhstan uprising was partly or even mostly against the brutal health-pass social-credit-app dystopia system that government embraced. The tipping point that let the protests boil over were new measures in which citizens no longer had access to their own bank accounts without the government health-pass (social credit) app. The KZ government went too far, overreached. Corona-tyrant hubris. Anyway, after Kazakhstan, one can only wonder about similar scenarios in Western countries… Escalation scenario: At one of the mass anti-vaccine-mandate protests in some provincial city, a few of the rowdier protestors spot a local official known to gleefully and savagely enforcing the mandates; ta few hotheads move to “arrest” him and other officials involved in the Vaccine Pass system, and in effect take him hostage. They then issue demands including an end to illegal and immoral vaccine-mandates or vaccine-passes. Then what? This is low-probability, but still plausible scenario for an escalation; and as I see it MORE plausible than what happened in 1989 in Eastern Europe. Once a “citizens arrest” movement against VaccineMandate-associated persons starts, it could go in unpredictable directions, including a Kazakhstan-style uprising, followed soon by mayhem, looting, followed perhaps by shootings of protestors. Dark… Read more »

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

Many are now saying the Kazakhstan uprising was partly or even mostly against the brutal health-pass social-credit-app dystopia system that government embraced.

I don’t doubt, but I’d put a tenner on the 5 eyes, deep state, a.k.a. the Clinton mafia stirring the pot to provoke civil unrest on Russia & Chinas border.

This is probably bigger than covid.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yup.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

Thanks for that hail, I asked yesterday if there was any confirmation that the Kazakhstan uprising was about more than just doubling fuel prices, as we have been told.

An unrelated YouTube comment said it was about introducing Social Credit passes of one sort or another without which people could not access their bank accounts.

If the Build Back Better crowd wanted a country to try it out on then why not Kazakhstan which few people care about and where, if it all goes tits up, Russia can willingly step in, which it has and they have too.

hail
hail
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

There are no doubt always some baseline reasons to protest or revolt, but the introduction of a brutal and dystopian kind of social-credit pass system, the realm more-or-less of science fiction even as of 2019 (except in China), that causes enough anger to push things over the threshold.

It does seem the initial protests in the far west were related to long-simmering tensions (the site of protests in about 2010) but when they spread, the people in the big cities and the capital let out their rage about the vaccine-passports and social-credit system that came out of nowhere with the Corona Panic-pushers.

People are tossing around the term “color revolution” which seems knee-jerk to me. They imagine a phantom army of CIA agents active in all corners. The real “color revolution” seems more like the Corona-Panic itself, dictatorship by health authority, the health-pass system, and precedent for ‘lockdowns’ over flu viruses.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

This is geopolitical obfuscation, you can be sure if there’s an advantage to be gained on causing trouble for Russia/China, the CIA are all over it like a flea on a dog.

Kazakhstan is a Muslim neighbour of a mainly Christian Russia, it’s from the Syria/Libya play book. Sucking Russian resources into a civil war it can’t ignore is hybrid warfare 101.

This is empire at it most destructive.

Archie
Archie
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

No, there is good reason to believe that the Kazakh protests are genuinely of the people. This blog post is very good:

https://edwardslavsquat.substack.com/p/did-the-kazakh-people-expose-our

as is the rest of that blog. Ukraine had a plausibly democratically elected president in Yanukovych. Kazakhstan is not democratic in the slightest. Besides, the Russian government and the Kazakh government and the present Ukrainian government are all three for vaccine passports as harsh as the worst systems in Europe. Putin is not our friend. At all.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Archie

Putin’s neither MY friend nor MY enemy, whereas, i’m certain neoliberals like Biden & Johnson have certainly made me their enemy. They’ve terrorized & waged war on my values & life.

There is no our!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

While possibly more aware than many about post Soviet developments in Central Asia I need to do some serious updating of what’s happened in recent days and weeks.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

‘Miles Dilworth’, whose other rare contributions to the Daily Mail are about Grenfell Tower type cladding, lifted all of this from an article on Vice News a few days ago.

I read that particular comment about why the Mail didn’t infiltrate actual harmful elements like Extinction Rebellion but the one that caught my attention was

“No self respecting Ex British serviceman would wear the uniform on the street, bar Remembrance Sunday”. Incidentally the beret is that of the Royal Fusiliers, not the Royal Irish Regiment as stated.

On the whole the only ‘readers’ who seem to take this nonsense article seriously are the ‘worst liked’ commenters who equate
“Alpha Men Assemble” with Brexiteers.

‘Miles Dilworth’ also manages to put in an unsubstantiated link between this group, if it even exists, to the BNP (if they still exist!).

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Hats off to these patriots standing up to this treasonous piece of shit government and the bad actors within it. This government is waging biological and psychological warfare against the people of this country.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Excellent. Where do I sign up?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Like enough they’ll just end up getting banned (like National Action) and turning people against us. Probably an inevitable development when democracy fails though.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

“Boris Johnson has utterly failed to back up his anti-woke rhetoric with action”

What anti-woke rhetoric?

This all started with the Tories & David Cameron & the likes of the daily mail constantly pushing its agenda.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Source please.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

2010 election result.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup Evening Standard
“Military steps in . . .NHS staff absences jump 57%”.

Apart from not detailing what sort of military are stepping in; bomber pilots?, medics?, tank mechanics? drivers?

You have to wade through a whole load of meaningless statistics about variable staff absences before getting to

“A spokesman added that the booster jab programme meant there was not the same level of pressure on Intensive Care Units as seen in previous waves”

Ignore the first bit of course and there’s the truth of it

Adamb
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Ah but without the boosters it would be a bloodbath, remember.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Adamb

I think they closed the bloodbaths down some time in 2020.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I think the public sector has decided furlough’s for good…

jwills
4 years ago

Djokovic won! Victory for common sense!

hail
hail
4 years ago
Reply to  jwills

Big attention on Twitter to the Djokovic affair.

A lot of people cheering, but just as many enraged that he won the case, has apparently defeated the Vaccine-Maniacs, and has humiliated the Corona-fanatic Australian government. Why are people so angry about Djokovic’s human rights victory?

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

Because it reminds them of what a human being is like. Zombies hate that.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

Not quite the same thing but what the junkie community really hates is when one of their number ceases to be a junkie.
It reminds them of their own wretched excuses for existing as human beings.

Novak of course is not a junkie but as a ‘straight’ member of the wider community achieving great success without their beloved vaccines he is similarly a reminder of Covidian inadequacies.

hail
hail
4 years ago
Reply to  hail

Here is one Twitter-person’s justification for why he or she hates Djokovic:

“Nope sorry, public good, we’ve all been vaccinated against many diseases, what happened to the public good? I personally care about my friends and family.”

Bolloxed Britannia
Bolloxed Britannia
4 years ago

“Gov split on free LFT”…
Let’s park the fact that LFT tell you fuck all, are the tests free?
Do the manufacturers provide them gratis to HM Gov? NO! they don’t, shit loads of tax payer cash is shoveled into the pockets of the corrupt manufacturers, investors and middle men!!! FREE? F#CK OFF.

karenovirus
4 years ago

It tells us all that in the article, specifically that the vast majority of the money goes to Chinese providers.

It would have been a far more interesting article if it was about the government being split over whether to charge the public for LFTs 》》》95% reduction in tests 》 cases.

karenovirus
4 years ago

I initially thought that the Twitter map at the end of Roundup was a reference to the state of public conveniences which generally deteriorate the further east one travels.

Phil Shannon
4 years ago

ITEM: “The Djokovic story proves just what we’re getting wrong about the unvaccinated” Exhibit A: The Australian federal government, led by ‘Liberal’ Scott Morrison. In the government’s thirteen-page submission lodged with the court on Sunday, the kernel of their argument is “Djokovic is unvaccinated and poses a risk to people and the health system in Australia”. Would this be the Djokovic who proved to two medical review panels (one hand-picked by the Victorian government of mad Dan Andrews [longest lockdown in the world and one of the harshest No-Jab-No-Job vaxx mandates in the world], that he had the antibodies/memory-T-cells to prove that he had been infected with SARS-CoV-2, recovered and thus had natural-acquired immunity which means he can neither contract nor transmit the virus to anyone (and that the ‘vaxx’ is contra-indicated and not recommended for such a naturally-immune person). Would this be the ‘vaccine’ that does not provide traditional sterilising immunity, meaning that the vaxxed can spread it as well as the unvaxxed? Would this be the ‘threatening’ virus that is now, Omicron-style, indistinguishable from the common cold? And, as manic testing associated with reopened internal borders heats up and is now clocking up 60,000 ‘cases’ a day (garbage stats… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Excellent analysis as always, thank you Phil.

“Dismissed as Serbs and anti-vaxxers”

Ain’t that a bit racist?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Djokovich wins appeal against decision to refuse visa”, according to GB News.

But ministerial powers may be used to bar him from the tournament after the successful appeal. I suppose his supporters won’t be allowed in even if he does participate…

Seriously, if the Australian government will not host sports tournaments properly and in good faith, they really shouldn’t have them.

And it’s absolutely nuts anyhow for the government to try and overturn this when he now apparently has natural immunity which is more effective than those “vaccines”, and for something with similar mortality to flu.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The Australian government are not interested in good faith, good medicine or public health.

Their only concern is to demonstrate their power, that they are in charge.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It’s very sad really, Australia used to be a great country and maybe can be again one day (I suspect the CCP will run into trouble before they can take them over), but it’s in a very dark place at the moment.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

I’m Polish. Historically we don’t do tyranny. Judging by the Polish ‘Stasi church’ in west London however, some of my compatriots have been hoodwinked to the point of psychosis about convid. The higher figures for so-called Eastern Europe are not higher death rates but greater covidian zeal tainting data collection and analysis.

Polak nie zawsze potrafi.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

That’s a pity, I rather thought our Polish Catholics were a cut above the homegrown version when it comes to resisting tyranny, as indeed you mention yourself.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The problem is with the Marian Fathers in Ealing. The congregation never wore masks until the good fathers clamped down hard. Yet the same priests were liberal on masks a few months ago. But psychotic in the first lockdowns. They have also publicly throwm people out of church for non masking, even ordering a godfather to masl up despite him being exempt. In Poland itself I’m not sure how things are playing out. Some suggest few wear them. The wider issue is th pope who has lost his senses, assuming he ever had any.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

MASS FORMATION PSYCHOSIS. All the rage worldwide it seems.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Yes, I suspect that people have been primed for this over many years by post abortion survivor syndrome and the other horrors that have been inflicted on particularly the working class over the past half century and more by elite liberal ideology.

debwestsussex
debwestsussex
4 years ago

Interesting that some of the most vaccine Sceptical healthcare workers are midwives. What do they know? Could be the increased risk of stillbirths they are dealing with?
Data came out some months ago from the Northern Ontario health authorities that there was a massive increase in still births following the mother’s vaccination.
Don’t drink alcohol or eat soft cheeses. But hey, have an experimental vaccine never tested on pregnant women- that’s ok,

RickH
4 years ago

Roundup seems to have become mainly cut and paste from MSM articles. The ‘meaty’ stuff – novel research or insight – now seems rare.

joenotjack
joenotjack
4 years ago

I have only just seen this ONS data about deaths by vaccination status. This is all deaths and not just Covid and makes very interesting reading. Seems like a huge spike after the 1st injection which lasts until weeks after the 2nd injection.

Have not seen any discussion of this or explanation for this spike.

Deaths by vaccination status, England.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  joenotjack

I’m surprised the ONS publish this information in such a damning way.

Idris
Idris
4 years ago

If the BBC is determined to put diversity before creating interesting programmes there is only one solution. They will have to make watching the BBC mandatory.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Idris

Not necessarily so, they only need to make paying for the license mandatory.

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Idris

Hard for us. Haven’t had a TV for over 15 years. Why the fuck would we fund that pile of crap?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

“Experts” now admit that the PCR test cannot distinguish Covid from Flu – so what “excess deaths”? Where are the 2018,2019,2020, 2021. flu death statistics?