I Am Unvaccinated
We’re publishing an original essay today by Cory Zue, an American software developer in South Africa, that he posted on his blog last week. This is one of the best pieces I’ve read by someone who has chosen to remain unvaccinated for entirely rational reasons – and it resonated with me because I’ve decided not to get vaccinated after having had the same argument with myself as Cory. Here is an extract from near the beginning:
For most people my vaccination status is surprising. For many, it’s incomprehensible.
How could an MIT-educated, well-meaning, rational (hopefully), Massachusetts-born, Democrat who works in public health still not have a Covid vaccine?
I’ve been asked this question many times – sometimes in good faith and sometimes less so. And each time, I’ve struggled to fully satisfy people with my response. So I thought maybe I’d try writing it down.
This essay is my attempt to explain my vaccination status as best I can. It’s a complicated answer, which touches on family, science, policy, and morality. It’s a topic that is simultaneously very personal and very broad; difficult to talk about, and yet also important – perhaps, now more than ever.
What follows is likely to anger some of you, but I hope that it makes more of you curious, or even empathetic, to my position. We’ll see if I can pull it off.
Not only does Cory pull it off, but he does so with a good deal of humour and panache. This is very much worth reading in full and if, like me, you’ve chosen not to get vaccinated, it’s worth sharing with others who find it hard to understand that decision.
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…….or……because I don’t trust the bloody jab, or the people pedalling it; and because we only jab people for individual benefit, not for the greater good, and therefore I have the right to decide what does, or does not, into my body.
Yes, you have put your finger on it – so many indications over the course of 2020 that this was a shameless racket. This article is slight delusional – the author is wrapped up in his own status and essentially it is a class problem. How can someone like him be an anti-vaxxer he asks himself? Maybe people further down the food chain – less influenced by the social signposts – are the rational ones.
That’s it, so true. I think people who are still very invested in the establishment are definitely at a disadvantage in spotting bullshit/lies/propaganda, just like it says in the Bible! lol 🙂
There’s an enormous false superiority complex engineered to keep people in their places with their “superior” beliefs, failing to believe these things is linked to loss of status.
It’s a cult, but who’s funding it?
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The article was VERY long – I scrolled through a lot of the author’s personal angst.
Much more simply, to borrow the words of GB News Mark Dolan, the virus isn’t bad enough and the jabs aren’t good enough to justify mandating them.
That, and natural immunity is a thing and is the gold standard of immunity (imagine having that as opposed to having to turn your deltoid muscle into something resembling a pin cushion for ever after) and no risk of side effects or adverse events.
It’s remarkable and a sign of the distorted reality which we now live in that the onus is on the unvaccinated to account for their position. The opposite should be true; and when in conversation I’ve tried to ascertain from others why they chose to be vaccinated, they invariably give extremely weak and poorly thought through answers that display a real failure to do their own research or critical thinking. There is, as far as I can see, no reason whatsoever for anyone who is not extremely clinically vulnerable to get one of these gene-based prophylactics, and even if I was in this position, I would still say no. Recent revelations about Pfizer’s downright criminal ‘clinical trials’ only serve to underline what most of us could see instinctively. These products were developed to meet political objectives, not to benefit our health.
Good way to look at it. I’ve been reticent to get into those arguments, but feel prepared now on all fronts. I think the next time anyone asks “why not”, I’ll ask “why”.
Yes, and all of this is extraneous information when the central response should really be “none of your fucking business.”
Precisely. Why should anyone have to disclose their medical status to some good who is not medically qualified?
The part of the whole Djokovic case which really irks me is the fact that he didn’t want to publish his status, and by virtue of having to appeal their decision to deny him entry the Australian govt has publicly disclosed that he is unvaccinated. His business.
I have never worn a mask (through choice, not exemption) and have never been challenged until one occasion recently. 2 old biddies were behind me in Boots. One said to the other “I get so angry when someone doesn’t wear a mask” and the other replied “Yes and it’s worse when they don’t even wear a badge”. So I turned round, gave them my best smile and said “And I get very angry when 2 extremely ignorant idiots seek to pass comments on my decisions knowing nothing about my medical status”. Damn me but it felt good, seeing the shock and embarrassment on their faces 🤣🤣🤣
Your choice is your exemption; you’ve declared it. No one is allowed to ask why, except on pain of being done for harassment etc. P.S I’ve done the same sort of thing!
You’ll get the line “to protect myself and protect others” parrotted at you
Then they can’t explain how it protects others!
Exactly – your thoughts gel with mine. Getting jabbed can only be justified on practical grounds – in order to avoid persecution.
that is the truth!
The short, honest answer is that they are only following orders.
The people who orchestrated this worldwide hoax are laughing all the way to the bank.
sax to be them!
Just when you think things couldn’t possibly get any madder ….
safe sax (sorry!)
Without thinking about it.
Don’t forget, people had a year of psychological warfare inflicted on them in the form of lockdowns etc, so the vaccines were seen to be the “saviour” and way out.
For travel to the UK:
‘Fully vaxxed’ – no quarantine, pre-purchased LFT required.
‘Not fully vaxxed/unvaxxed’ – 10 days quarantine, 2 PCR tests to be pre-purchased from a ‘Government approved’ scammer.
Actually, I just made that up, because, really, “it’s all over”.
I don’t buy the ‘poor abused population’ narrative.
People went into lockdown far too willingly. Suspiciously so, in fact. What they thought would be a couple of weeks off work in the middle of winter seemed very appealing at the time.
They’re greed and short sightedness ended up opening a can of worms that two years later we are still very far from putting the lid back on.
If you let your government put you under arbitrary house arrest, you better make sure you are in real mortal danger, not just in the mood for a couple of weeks of downtime.
Fair enough. But at the time, we didn’t know what we do know. We saw 1,000 deaths a day, a threat of hospitals being overwhelmed, and a media insisting that something must be done. The fear narrative helped to stoke the vaccine narrative later on.
It’s interesting how bad our memories are. On the 23rd March when Boris Johnson placed the nation under house arrest, there were 76 deaths.
If the nation was so scared people would have stayed at home all by themselves.
As it happens, there is a stunning correlation between those who benefited from lockdowns (health care workers, teachers, white collar workers who could work from home, furloughed workers) and those who supported them.
I have no doubt that we will end up as dishonest about our “guilt” with respect to lockdowns as the Germans were about the treatment of Jews. “There was no way we could have known…” Yeah, right.
Yes I agree. How come some of us could see through this bs right from the beginning? I suspect it is more likely to be those of us who are perhaps more cynical about human nature generally…. a trait I was led to believe was unbecoming but actually has served me very well through the last two years.
As Stewart points out, we never saw 1,000 deaths from Covid a day – not even in the most fertile of imaginations.
I’m talking about psychological warfare for the first year. In that regard, they were reporting over 1,000 a day several times during April 2020.
https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths?areaType=overview&areaName=United%20Kingdom
Of course, in hindsight we can ask whether those were deaths from coronavirus, etc. However, this was part of the psychological warfare waged against the nation before the vaccines. If you saw through it from Day 1, more power to you. Most people did not.
Many of us gave them the benefit of the doubt. Personally when, two days after I had a blood test at the pharmacy showing a full covid antibody count, the government banned these tests, even threatening the pharmacy with closure if they didn’t comply, I knew it couldn’t possibly be true because it made no sense whatsoever.
The excuse given – “if people know they’ve had it they might stop wearing their masks” was utterly astounding. That was it for me around 18 months ago.
This has been my thought all along … someone ages on here talked about a philosophical truth that basically boils down to “if in doubt, do nowt” and it just makes so much sense to me.
Always say No before you say Yes.
I was asked by someone today why I “always had to do my research – why don’t you just go and have the thing?”
It is called due diligence. Would you buy a car without looking under the bonnet?
Yes indeed. That’s the influence of The Guardian, who have run a series of pieces on the stupidity of people who ‘do their own research’ predictably equating it with being a tin-foil hat wearer. An absolute inversion of reality.
It’s very time consuming – you should see the list of stuff I STILL have to research. But what is the alternative? Not doing the research and making a bad decision you can’t undo all the while saying your yourself “wish I’d read around the subject a bit more…
The reason to vaccinate is that if you are in the 65-74 year old age group, your risk of death is 65x higher than if you are in the 18-29 years old group (based on CDC numbers).
So if at that early senior age you wish to participate in a 2.7-4.9% death lottery (when you catch it, which seems pretty likely as well), then yes, there is absolutely no reason to vaccinate against it.
That fact is something which you claim not to see (probably because you’ve been successfully blinded to it).
You don’t need to explain yourself. You have a very low risk of Covid and an unknown risk from the vaccine. That’s enough. If you care enough about the approval of lesser people that you have to excuse yourself for not taking unnecessary medication then you’re already half lost.
“I don’t want the jab because fuck you”, is the only answer that needs to be given.
Exactly.
My response has always been the same: Your health is not my responsibility and mine is not yours. Never has been, never will be.
Simple. as. that.
Actually, “I don’t want the jab because fuck you” is the only answer that needs to be given even if the risk of covid is high and the risk from the vaccine low.
You either believe in bodily autonomy or you don’t. It’s not conditional on risk or efficacy.
Indeed – the risk factor is my own reason and my own business. Fuck you is my public stance.
“You either believe in bodily autonomy or you don’t. It’s not conditional on risk or efficacy.” This is key indeed and how it is embedded in international law. But people tend to forget that. Making bodily autonomy conditional opens up the risk discussion, but risk is often confused with the perception of risk. If perceived risk is then used to inform policy, the concept of bodily autonomy may be lost forever.
If you get jabbed to ‘protect others’ and you have a life changing adverse event where do you think the ‘others’ are going to be when you cannot function and need care, help etc.
It should be nothing other than a personal decision taken by each individual having assessed their circumstances and the risks and benefits to them – as it would be for any other medical procedure.
Your neighbours wouldn’t deign to ask you how your procedure for your piles went so they have no business asking you if you are jabbed or not.
These things have only been taken out of the ‘fiercely private’ arena and into the public one because the government has taken those matters there and has done so deliberately to create societal division and to hive off and isolate the unjabbed
Fair enough, but then be prepared to hear a reply “I don’t want you to enter my shop/travel on my vehicle/work for me because fuck you“. Which is pretty much the point we are at now.
Im not injected with their poison because I dont take health advice from war criminal scum completely devoid of a moral compass – HMG – and I dont let criminals inject me with experimental shit with a history of ONLY failure in animal trials. Also Pfizer has possibbly the worst criminal record of any company in history – including the biggest criminal payout ever – 2.3 billion dollars. Only a fucking moron lets criminals like this experiment on them. If Pfizer was a human it would be spending the rest of its life in jail.That HMG have hired such a lowlife outfit to inject the population is testament to how treasonous and good for nothing they truly are, and how our ABSOLUTE PRIORITY now is to get these criminals out of office once and for all, then put them all in jail for the rest of their lives, along with all their corrupt agents in the courts etc
Brilliant response. No messing, and so true.
Except when you are 65 years old, your chances might be more like “95%” safe not “99.8%” safe. I’m sure it’s a small enough difference to many/most dissenters though. They may be pretty dumb gamblers, but so are most people.
Excellent response, and so true.
(Just one thing… the word ‘odds’ is spelt the way I’ve just typed it, and not ‘ods’ – the way it’s spelt in your post above. Sorry, but correct spelling [and punctuation, grammar, etc] is important)
Too bad your risk from Covid is about just as “unknown” as from the vaccine.
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Absolutely love this. So sinister.
‘The Pied Piper of ‘Jabelin’…
I’m unvaccinated because
1) I don’t need it 2) other people apparently do and there isn’t enough to go around
so it would be selfish for me to have it
Why is an explanation necessary?
Exactly……
I’m Not vaccinated, just decided to wait and see, its experimental and has no liability, that makes sense to me.
That was my take initially – the Phase 3 trials were due to end in 2023 and I was going to wait until then at least to review the evidence. Now that I’ve seen the underhanded way Pfizer conducted their trials, and the abject failure of the drugs to contain the virus in any meaningful way, I can categorically say no – no need to wait until 2023.
Not to mention all cause mortality of the jabbed was higher than the placebo group (which was covered up!).
A sign to stay away from whatever it is.
Then they jabbed the placebo group to further obfuscate things.
Very sinister.
It’s such Wild West criminality and impunity that it’s almost as though they’re not expecting there to be a functional society left to hold them accountable when this is over.
And there may indeed not be. I was mulling this over the other day. I can remember at the outset of the ‘pandemic’ walking through my neighbourhood and wondering how many of the houses would soon be unoccupied when the people all dropped dead in the streets [as we were being led to believe at the time]. No one I know has died from covid in my area. But I’d wager that almost 99% of them are double jabbed and lining up their booster shots. Because it is for the common good. (this seems to be their reasoning). Now I’m wondering in maybe 5 years time, or even sooner, how many of these houses might be unoccupied because their owners have died from say cancer, or a stroke, or a heart attack after their 4th or 5th jab.
The thought has crossed my mind too. I think we’ll probably live in an era of generally declining health. The S1 spike protein is a perfect weapon because it can attack so many disparate parts of the body.
Four previously healthy people I know have suddenly developed strange “health” problems….. from skin problems to food intolerances that they have no explanation for. None of them have thought or suggested that it could be connected to the x3 jabs, but I am having my doubts – yet when I have mentioned it I am just met with a blank stare!
The only fly in the ointment might be that you are confusing your deluded beliefs (produced by years of reinforcement in echo chambers) with actual reality.
Here is some actual reality: https://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/media-resources/the-pfizer-inoculations-for-covid-19-more-harm-than-good-2/
Everyone involved in this vaccine’s development, roll-out, and subsequent coercion to take should be in prison. Take a look; it’s fully referenced and refers only to Pfizer’s own data. I’m not delusional.
It is not reality, but another extremely biased source, see my earlier remark about “echo chambers”.
You certainly absorbed that info pretty quick. Or didn’t you really need to? I said it was referenced; it’s not conjecture it’s from the horse’s mouth and shows clear evidence of fraud. In what way is an alliance of Canadian medical doctors inherently biased?
The drug cartel deliberately destroyed the control groups. They cannot be prosecuted for mass murder, so why bother wiith safety trials?
It could be argued that Phase 3 will never be reached, as they are not following the sequence. This explains why: https:// http://www.canadiancovidcarealliance.org/media-resources/the-pfizer-inoculations-for-covid-19-more-harm-than-good-2/ (about 39 minutes long).
Me too. Decided to wait and see, didn’t like what I saw and decided not to get it.
Then I got a nasty case of Covid a few months ago (delta presumably), recovered, had an antibody test which confirmed I’d had it and got the antibodies.
So I now have even less desire to get vaccinated for a bug I survived, and have some form of immunity for.
But apparently naturally acquired immunity doesn’t count for anything in this topsy-turvy world.
I’m a pure blood and have had colds/flu over the past 2 years. I don’t test, but how do you get an antibody test?
Superdrug do them – if you feel like taking part in this psychotic social experiment.
Either antibodies, or T-cell assessment can be done – not cheap, but organisations like this https://www.independentinformation.co.uk/resources/t-cell-immunity-testing offer it. I did use them, which was actually via the Oxford Immunotec firm ( http://www.oxforddiagnosticlaboratories.eu ). Whether it’s meaningful to you, it’s up to you.
Makes me laugh how people are convinced the had ‘covid’ and not other respiratory disease. Just shows the level of brainwashing – even among sceptics.
They KNOW they “had it.”
Sorry to disappoint but I do believe I had a novel respiratory virus in July 2021 – the (only!) lateral flow test I have ever taken said positive and I only took it because of the oddness, not severity, of the symptoms. Profound loss of taste and smell was decidedly strange. I do think there is a GOF enhanced virus in the world, and I can’t ignore the brave and eminent scientists on our side who believe this too. I think its lethality has perhaps failed to live up to expectations…
> failed to live up to expectations
Failed to live up to design perhaps? Which may explain the panic on the part of states expecting something actually dangerous…
But the danger was the over-response.
Someone gamed it out.
Best to wait until the experimental details are published in full.
In 2076…
They’ve got to provide them in 8 months now, following court ruling.
Which must mean they’re giving western civilisation roughly seven months.
“The first thing you need to know about my mother is that she is one of the smartest people I know. And not in the typical ‘my mom is amazing because she’s my mom’ way, but in the ‘my mom was one of the first women in the world to get a PhD in computer science from MIT’ way.”
Yawn.
You’re easily impressed with shit writing, Toby.
Quite agree: it might be helpful on the Guardian, but why should anyone here be interested in a self-obsessed piece of half-baked writing.
Because it might perhaps possibly be effective material for waking up some fence-sitters, who may appreciate and warm to the almost deferential tone, the respectful and apologetic stance, etc, the reassuringly “nice” non-combatative attitude, the pedigree, ( MIT ), etc.
Anyone who is still sitting on the fence at this point is not worth bothering with.
This may be true. I thought about posting this essay to a fervently masked, vaxxed and obedient member of my family, or on my nearly dormant Facebook page, but on reflection couldn’t see it changing anything. It is perhaps almost too soft-focus to be of use.
It is perhaps just important comfort/reassurance for unvaxxed people who are feeling horribly at odds with the normal/herd etc, helps them to feel ok, because someone else clearly “acceptable” and rational/sensible is doing the same thing.
Unless you get paid for removing splinters from arses
How many fence-sitters come here, eh????
I’ve started sharing DS articles with friends and family recently and they’re actually replying or sending stuff back. So the answer is “definitely more than 1”. Maybe you could try making that number higher?
I fully agree Tee Ell. More and more people are moving towards the fence – let’s help them
War criminal Netanyahu went to MIT.
🙂 I imagine a lot of criminals/mass murderers have been to places like Oxford and Cambridge too, but I just meant that as an “opener” the ref to MIT helps the author to display credentials etc which prove that he “belongs”, is “one of the good guys (” not a “deplorable”, ) to people who are normal/part of society/generally loyal to the establishment etc. It helps to reassure, to allay fears, in the sort of people who are swimming against their usual social tide/currents by remaining unvaxxed.
Writing seemed fine to me. Enough to make me want to read all of it.
I thought it was over long and rambly. He could have made it much shorter and possibly more effective by doing so.
Thanks 7 friends for reading his draft, lol! Apparently, none had a red pencil.
The whole drivel about mom was unimportant, but the article gets better in the later part.
It’s great to see more people coming out against these experimental drugs. But it doesn’t need to be so apologetic! These drugs are: rushed using brand-new technology; inadequately tested (the RCTs were abandoned and ran far too short); liability-free for the manufacturers; have VAERS reports orders of magnitude larger than the sum of reports for all vaccines in recorded history; produced by companies with extensive lobbying capability and a history of abusing relationships with clinicians to push drugs; produced (in the case of Pfizer), by the company with the largest health care fraud settlement in history! $2.3B in 2009 https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-announces-largest-health-care-fraud-settlement-its-history. The drugs are not worthy of your trust Adding to this: there is blatant propaganda and censorship surrounding the drugs; the recent formal redefinition of what a vaccine actually is; no generally published / accepted health guidance (Vit D, outdoor exercise); no widespread use of early-stage treatments that are well-proven, and indeed active suppression of those treatments; finally there is immoral (and possibly illegal – Nuremberg) coercion by governments, especially to the young who do not need them. These are not vaccines by any measure of the established, pre-2020 meaning of the word. These are experimental drugs with well-recorded, appalling… Read more »
Brilliant – thank you.
‘The drugs are not worthy of your trust’
Excellent summary.
If SARs COV II was manufactured, why doesnt the gene sequence appear in humans? Why did a virtual reality gene sequence need to be generated on a computer?
It did.
https://www.mja.com.au/journal/2020/212/10/isolation-and-rapid-sharing-2019-novel-coronavirus-sars-cov-2-first-patient
Center on “Methods” section. If it doesn’t have you scratching your head … you may be captured.
yeah? lets ignore the 7 million+ isolations done worldwide on nextstrain too.
Go to Andrew Kaufmans shop, he’s took down the $1500 1hr consultation with a medical disclaimer since being called out as a grifter by biologists he refuses to debate, now he sells magic resin at 40x the amazon price, and a magic wand to make your water magically healthy, then you mite be able to see the grift these people push.
When you get your day in court to avoid the mandated transfection, you better take some biology with you, because if you stand ther repeating the nonsense Kaufman and his circle jerk of patrion grifters spout, they’ll lock you up and take your kids. Good luck, you have been warned.
I can do without Kaufman’s coffee enemas. But there’s nothing terribly medieval that he recommends, having disavowed modern demonology, AKA: virology with it’s 17,000 papers alleging isolation of demons.
Also, if Kaufman is a grifter, we’re going to have to find a pejorative a whole ‘nother magnitude to define the massive wealth transfer accruing from the belief that other people are disease vectors. Kaufman is to boil as virologists and their ilk are to flesh-eating bacteria.
I’m giving you my ‘post of the day’ award. You said it FAR better than Toby’s guy did!
Drug free is the right description. Legal proceedings underway in USA to challenge the jab mandate on the grounds that it isn’t a vaccine it is a ‘medical treatment’ and as such cannot be mandated.
What is he talking about the vaccines are safe? The rest of the article is fine, but this element is just bizarre. I really cannot comprehend how anybody could do a sincere open-eyed deep-dive into the question of safety of these so-called vaccines and conclude that they are safe. They are not safe they are catastrophic by any measure. So for all the length of that article, it could have been much simpler. Why have I not taken this medical intervention? Well: is it safe, necessary and effective? No to the first, so stop right there.
As for the Trump-supporter anti-vaxxer sideswipe, it’s one or the other these days.
Agree. It’s as if the author knows that’s a subject that will frighten people, people who’ve already been vaxxed particularly, and fear often triggers/increases hostility and closes minds.
Good point. The problem with watering down the message so that it doesn’t trigger the intended recipient is that it becomes insipid and misses the point. Really, it’s the first and best argument for not taking the vaccines. Leave this out and the argument is really just waffle, as this one is. I mean, if the vaccines are perfectly safe, as this author has decided, well why not just go ahead and take it on the off chance that some good will come of it. Or to get into the cinema or whatever.
I think what he’s really dealing with is his relationship with his mother and his relationship with science. He’s got a unique twist on it there by the sounds in his own personal situation. So good luck to him. But I do think he is trying way too hard here, and his mother is basically right on it. Don’t take the vaccine what are you crazy. You literally don’t even know what is in it, let alone the effects of what we do know that is there.
So yeah, in this case, mother knows best.
I think you’re right. It’s interesting that he may have disguised his very rational but socially too dangerous to admit fears about the vax dangers as “taking a stand” because that sounds better/is more socially approved of.
This is the problem for me. The only person I’ve talked about this with is my best mate (I don’t have any close family). He was surprised/worried I’d declined the injections (I’m deaf, so much of our communication is facial expressions – I’d estimate that his facial expression was a mixture of surprise and worry). Anyway, he asked why I’d declined. “Because of the vaccine pass?” “Yes,” I replied. “That trumps everything. Regardless of anything else, I’d say no for that reason. But …” And I had to hesitate here. “But this is hard to talk about with someone you know has had the vaccine – I am genuinely worried about it.” He nodded, and we left the subject. I mean, we’ve been friends for over forty years, and that doesn’t happen without recognizing where there are hazards there’s no point steering investigating. But as I said, this is the problem. The last thing I’d want to do is convince him of the dangers of something he can no longer do anything about. If these injections do reduce life expectancy, it’s not going to do him any good worrying about it through the preceding years. He means too much for… Read more »
You are right Paul. Wise advice.
I similarly don’t slag off the safety of the jabs to the triple jabbed people I know because they cannot undo it. And a part of me wants to because if it stops them going for jab 4 or 5 and ramping up the harms with every jab they get then I would like to alert them to the research. It is hard to have to sit back and watch loved ones queue up to harm themselves.
But I wish they would similarly respect my need to protect my bodily autonomy and not have it.
Agreed. Unless you think that they plan on having boosters, etc, and that if you can persuade them to not have any more that could make a big difference to their health?
Agree. More apologetics, not far from ‘I’m not an antivaxxer but……’
My experience is that explaining vax risk is the *only* way to change what people actually do. They may take on board all the arguments about C19 risk, vax efficacy against infection and transmission, early treatment etc but they still go off and get their booster. Vax risk is the ultimate taboo subject, so sometimes it’s necessary to warm people up with the other stuff first. Hard work I know. But if we don’t do it, who will?
Well, he is comparing safety of vaccine to safety of covid infection, and in that respect they are indeed “safe” for most age groups.
The trouble is related to the weak, or deliberate, misuse of common language. “Safety” is not binary in the real world, at least not in proper safety systems in engineering. Look up the term “Safety Integrity Level (SIL)”. Maybe medicine is a foreign country, though.
I think many of the long standing readers of this site will find the essay a wee bit patronising.
For most of us, when governments and public officials started behaving like a terrorists not just for our own good but BECAUSE it was supposedly for our own good, all the alarm bells went off and we didn’t need to do a scientific deep dive to realise something was terribly wrong.
Congratulations to the author for eventually getting to where many of us have been since March 2020.
This. ^^^^ It’s probably a good article to give to fence-sitters and covidians, and might perhaps have some salutory enlightening effect on a few of them, but yes, it’s still remarkably fence-sitter ish itself about vax-safety, ie the now well documented dangers of them, etc.
PS. Perhaps because the author knows that the vax lack of safety is a subject that will frighten people, people who’ve already been vaxxed particularly, and fear often triggers/increases hostility and closes minds.
Yep, for most of us on here, there is nothing new in this article to surprise us but it was written for your average normie who feels they have the right to probe you about your vaccine status, and who take it upon themselves, on behalf of humanity, to be shocked and butt-hurt because you WON’T take the shots!
Exactly Helena, he wrote it for his own blog for his friends and acquaintances/followers, so it’s a bit hard to complain that it’s patronising just because this site is full of people who are already onboard with the scam.
Precisely.
Robert Malone being interviewed tonight on Dan Wooton’s GB news show. Should be worth a watch.
Thanks – noted!
Stewart, you are right that at heart of this vaccine rejection are trust issues, but you have to consider that it may simply be that a small fraction of individuals simply have inherently low trust (as an extreme example, think paranoid people). So invoking lack of government trust as the main decision factor is a very weak argument against any government measure.
Finally, those same people who declare deep lack of trust as the main reason for their rejection, paradoxically often trust the same regulators in other ways (e.g. they trust regulation concerning food safety and don’t insist on growing by themselves everything they consume).
My point is that we should argue not about trust, but about morality/ethics: “Is it ever right to ever an unconsenting individual into undergoing a medical treatment? Under what circumstances? Should it at all depend on reasons for the lack of consent? Does the current situation warrant such extreme breach of hitherto universally agreed moral code?”
the jury is still out on the pyramids.. i think her mom might have been right about that too!
Didn’t they find a boat near the Pyramids recently?
Everybody knows the Pyramids were the landing bases for the Goa’uld spaceships.
🙂
The suppression of treatments was enough to turn me off the vaccine.
Yes it was one of a hardware store’s worth of nails in the coffin for me too.
‘I’m unvaccinated too!’
I’m a 60+ old man with severe heart disease.
I’m the global lead in training of complex, high-value defence lifecycles and have trained over 25,000 practitioners in advanced risk management techniques.
Simply, for the vast majority of us, the high risk of injury from vaxxing heavily outweighs the benefits.
It’s very simple for me. The virus is no big deal – it has been grossly inflated by the media and politicians. When people lie to me, they never so so for good reasons. I do not trust them, I do not trust their motives, so I do not trust their “vaccine”.
I could go into more detail – eg the Pfizer trial data – but it isn’t necessary. I reached my decision on principles, not data.
An interesting read from an individual’s perspective.
A couple of observations that are revelatory for our current tumultuous times.
1/ It’s now apparent that you, as an individual, are expected to explain your inalienable right to your bodily autonomy and the considered decisions that you make as a sentient being in relation to that autonomy.
2/ Despite copious amounts of relevant qualifications, university degrees, PhDs and confirmation of your cerebral capacity that you can stick on the wall, it’s now blindingly obvious that the vast majority ( who seem to exist in a critical thought desert) need fucking check up from the neck up!
Very good, and horrible/alarming, point ref having to justify bodily autonomy.
We are still in the middle of the war and it is difficult to pierce the fog At lunchtime on the first day of the Somme it was reported that the battle had been a huge success with most objectives taken The Indiana Insurance Actuaries report a 40% increase in adult deaths. I’m going to assume for the moment that those death are largely attributable to the ‘vaccines’. I may be wide of the mark on that one but we may not know until the war is over What if that increase also applied to the UK? In the UK we do not yet have the total figures for deaths for 2021. In the UK we have not yet had a full year of ‘vaccination’ I have taken 2019 as a baseline when there were 531,000 deaths from all causes. A 40% increase on 2019 would amount to an additional 221,000 deaths. In my opinion ‘covid’ deaths are monstrously over recorded whilst there is little or no recording of vaccine injury deaths Italy initially recorded ‘covid’ deaths similar to the UK An Italian University has since revised that countries ‘covid’ deaths down to 13,000 Still can’t see the big picture… Read more »
Not sure your figures are really valid as the Indiana Insurance report, as far as i understood it, was related to the deaths of people aged 18-65, ie the working population since these are life insurance policies taken out by companies on their staff. So you’d need to categorise the ACM numbers by age to make them comparable.
I am afraid I found Zue’s argument unvonvincing. There is no scepticism other than of the motives of governments (not a bad thing in itself) and his final argument seems to be based on pig-headedness, not rationality.
His final argument is about principle rather than ‘pig-headedness’. I could understand if your criticism was that he has moved from pure rationale towards an element of ideology but it seems to me that you’re not being rational in your brief assessment. On balance taking a stand on sound, well reasoned principals is completely rational.
Am I irremediably over-critical? But I sense here a sort of guilt expiation at doing the bleedin’ obvious against the trend. An over-compensation.
The fact is that there is no reason to get vaccinated – which is why I, as an old fart with lots of co-morbidity am not.
In fact – there is every rational reason not to do so, ffs! – starting with
(a) the risk from Covid is moderate to low (despite the contrary propaganda) – even for old farts.
and
(b) sticking a novel experimental therapy in the arm after abandoned/curtailed safety testing is a ludicrous idea.
and
(c) especially when scant ARR data shows a risk reduction of ~1%
and
(d) absorbing a clotting agent when on blood thinners
… need I go on???
One might also mention that Pfizer has been outed as a criminal enterprise, being handed the largest fine in corporate history. J&J is similar, and Moderna has never produced a mass distribution drug before.
Many of the victims either know this, or wouldn’t be surprised to learn this was so. Such is the mass formation and fear response. They are wilfully acting against their own interests.
I haven’t come across anyone who knows these details other than blogs like DS where they are freely aired.
Me neither, most are blissfully ignorant of even blindingly obvious vaccine injuries even in their own social circle.
And yet whenever I hear that ‘X’ has got ‘Y’ condition – I’m thinking “jab injury?”
My wife and I generally shoot a glance at each other every time one if our friends or relatives mention someone they know with an inexplicable and sudden medical problem. Which happens a lot!
It is bleedin’ obvious – and we shouldn’t be gaslighted into providing worthy explanations. They don’t make sense even on their own terms.
I’m unvaccinated! Searing for data on a possible pandemic virus from the beginning, I was lucky to find DRASTIC early on, the search for the source of the virus put me in the middle of a very interesting detective story. This exposed me to all the coronavirus research that had been done over the last ~20 years. I couldn’t get enough of it, 10+ hours per day reading, I didn;t expect I’d still be at it 2 whole years later! They had been trying to develop a pan-corona vaccine for 20 years, nothing they tried had worked. Some promisng candidates were trialed in animals, it protected them from the virus and looked very successful, but when these animals were exposed to the virus again, they all died, this was the first time I’d ever heard of ADE. ADE was a deep rabbit hole, I read paper after paper trying to understand it, it’s a very complicated area. At the time I was following Jonathan J Couey, a broad based PhD biologist who was specialising in neurobiology at UPitt. He had a Youtube channel (JC on a Bike – short for Journal Club not jesus Christ) where he would talk about… Read more »
Excellent – many thanks
Thank you.
I think you’re being optimistic putting it down to a mistake.
You are right. I was being over generous, but it was getting a bit long already.
It’s clear from reading all DRASTIC research they have been looking for an oppertunity to convert immunological science into the church of mRNA treatment for years.
I’m more convinced it came from the work at UNC (see “vaping disease” in NC with remarkaby similar symptoms to covid-19 including chest x-ray pathology ~sept 2019) with the World military games as the super spreader event, at the same time they were tabletopping the response during event 201, than it came from the WIV.
This is also punctuated by the ovbious coverup by Fauci et al of their intellectual, financial, and regulatory involvement in GoF research from day 1.
And this vocalising of the globalist eugenics mindset undelines all of it
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/tyranny/the-stupid-will-believe-it-and-ask-to-be-treated-pandemic-to-depopulate-1981/
The “Mistake” is that we allowed them to do it. Another mistake is that we will allow the to get away with it.
Is it now possible to follow JC?
Sure, he did a long 2.5hr stream last night, he’s also covering news items etc. so you can skip forward to the point he has actual papers on screen using the scroll bar, if you register a twitch account and subscribe you get an email when he’s live, the streams are only archived for a week or so.
JCs website, his review paper is very good https://gigaohmbiological.com/
last nights stream: https://www.twitch.tv/videos/1258665333
twitter: https://twitter.com/jjcouey
since he’s been sanctioned on youtube he’s a bit more careful about what he’s going to post on there, but here’s some of the early videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/JConabike/videos
Thanks for this. A long read, but worth it. Regarding your surprise at the attitudes in the US:
I use a VPN to access the internet via the US (chosen through a process of elimination, ie the US was the least bad option). With a UK IP address I’m constantly asked to agree to terms and conditions before I can continue. In Canada I’m bombarded with woke ads that evade the ad blocker. The downside of the US is extreme polarisation of opinions.
For example, I decided to answer a questionnaire one time on Covid, but ran out of stamina as the questions were all about politics. Basically before continuing I had to state whether I agreed or disagreed with Donald Trump.
Even on a topic like Covid and vaccination, answers have to be pigeon-holed into political affiliations. The UK is on a similar path, but hopefully we’re nowhere near as polarised as the USA.
install ‘uBlock Origin’ and ‘AdBlocker Ultimate’ to your browser (firefox seems to work best) to stop all that annoyance.
uBlock can be quite complicated beyond the default settings, there’s a privacy focused youtube channel called ‘The hatedone’ that can walk you through it and help you control your metadata as well as the annoying shinanigans of big tech
I’m using Firefox 95.0.2 at present.
What a load of waffle.
He also said, “For kids Covid was as dangerous as the flu”.
Nonsense. Influenza is far more of a threat to children. Of course, he probably used ‘flu to mean a cold, which lots of people do, like people saying they have a migraine when they mean a normal/bad headache. If you have either, influenza or a migraine, you are virtually incapacitated.
I have some friends who said ‘I had covid really badly’. When I ask if they went to hospital they say ‘no, but I did feel rough for a couple of days’
Another fried says ‘its just flu’. I say “were you bed bound?” – “no just a bit tired” etc
My daughter was hospitalised for a chest infection for a week as a baby – that was ‘really bad’
If you aren’t in hospital with supplemental Oxygen – you got ‘it’ mildly – whatever ‘it’ was.
People have no sense of perspective
Yes, it’s quite weird how distorted many people’s perspective on illness is, so not that surprising that so many people seem to genuinely believe that they need to take LF tests etc in order to “find out if they are ill”. As if people can’t accurately or usefully assess their own bodily state anymore.
Quite. I think I had it over Christmas. Felt rough enough that I stayed in bed for a couple of days, then it began to tail off. This is basically what you would expect for a heavy cold / mild flu. In no way does it justify all the paranoid hype, nor does it justify any action other than ‘stay at home until you feel better’. People need to get a grip!
I had flu, then my immune system crashed and I got quinsy, which nearly killed me with sepsis.
Intravenous metronidazole in 5 mins, after a 6 hour wait in A+E…
NHS is mostly shite.
I was talking to a passing acquaintance a few days ago. He sombrely told me that (whisper) his neighbour had covid. “He’s at home but he’s not very well”. I didn’t react with the look of shock that seemed to be expected. I just said “Oh, presumably if it’s Omicron it’s no worse than a cold”. At this the chap said “Not sure about that….I understand the new variant affects the throat and nose”. “That’s what I mean, it’s nothing more than what we used to call a cold” was my retort. The look on the chap’s face as his brain tried to compute this truth bomb was priceless.
This ^^^^^ I noticed that aswell, and thought if that’s what he says about dangers of co19 vs flu to children he doesn’t know as much as he seems to think.
The nonsense is that covid is the flu. Look at flu figures over the last 18 months – it all but vanished, yet mortality rates stayed the same as usual, except for the spike due to midazolam murders and lockdown deaths.
I’ve been taking the piss on social media for a year about the bashful scientists that have cured the flu hiding their respective light under a bushel. That said, there IS a very different respiratory illness in circulation. in 2013, roughly at this time of the year myself and the other half were both struck down with a very nasty flu. it was absolutely horrible for us both (except for farming out the kids to relatives because we couldn’t look after them), but as we’d both had lesser flus before we knew eventually we’d get through it but it took us around month to shake it off. boxing day 2020- i started to feel a bit off, over a few days felt worse and developed a constant cough.24/7. I didn’t sleep at all for 16 days because of the constant coughing giving me a constant headache, couldn’t eat for a two weeks.I wasn’t especially ill beyond beingpissed off by the effects of that bloody cough. At my lowest point I was actually researching buying an Oxygen cylinder and mask and I was worried that the fucking cough would never get better. During that time the Mrs developed all of the… Read more »
I ‘came out’ to a family member last night, he just assumed I was one of them, shock horror
Yes, a vol work colleague was talking triumphantly about how the driver of a bus she was on had turfed someone off/refused to carry someone not wearing a mask because they didn’t have an exemption badge and when I said that was discriminatory and cruel she said that he should have had a badge, and then added, “he probably wasn’t even vaccinated”, to which I replied that the vax doesn’t prevent transmission etc, as declared by B Johnson himself, at which point she muttered that she wasn’t one to argue about this sort of stuff and walked off. But I was struck by her saying that the person “probably wasn’t even vaccinated” as if that was the very least/the minimum required of anyone respectable, and that she may have assumed it about me too.
The replies are strange, my relative went into an explanation of, have to say none of his family had had any bad reaction to the jabs, he had a cold but that happened after the flu jab too, almost like they have to justify being jabbed.
I watched my own well-read, highly educated sister perform similar cognitive gymnastics in her attempts (unprompted) to account for her choice. It was a depressing sight.
100% ditto ^^^^
My SO is having major cognitive dissonance about the medical issues with clotting that occurred post jabs!
Oh god – I’ve seen plenty of that too!
Boris Johnson on boosters – YouTube
Save the link and show them!
Doesn’t stop you catching
Doesn’t stop you transmitting
Doesn’t lower viral load
Now doubles chance of testing positive!
Put a drawing pin on her chair.
I liked this essay. But this declaration of principles towards the end was disappointing: “The world I want to live in is a world where we make and enforce rational, evidence-based policies based on the good of the population. A world in which we defer some autonomy to individuals to make their own decisions regarding their health, and don’t keep them from going out to dinner or getting on an aeroplane if we disagree with them.” Should we “enforce” the advice of doctors? Sweden advised but did not enforce and most people took the advice. It seems to me that, with very few exceptions e.g. quarantine for serious diseases, governments force health policies on the public when other ends are intended or bureaucrats are scared. If the advice is sensible, or even overly cautious, and the public trust doctors, which they do, then the public will follow advice without being forced to. That’s small fry compared to this: “we defer some [!] autonomy to individuals to make their own decisions” What vision of the world is this? Sadly, it seems very close to the present, where the British and American people are managed by benevolent (we hope) public health experts,… Read more »
Sweden advised but did not enforce and most people took the advice.
That’s a key point – Sweden didn’t need to enforce because it has a population who revere their government. Nations have acted according to the cultural and sociological nature of their population. The outcome and endgame are unfortunately the same.
So right. Sweden is a proud technocracy.
Yes, indeed, very woke-lefty-liberal agenda/philosophy! No wonder he says he’s unvaxxed because he’s taking a stand” and not because of possible dangers thereof.
I’ve concluded that the article is in the wrong place.
It needs to be posted in a site that is read by people who think that those who went to university are clever and those who didn’t aren’t; people who will be really impressed by someone who went to a place like MIT and agree it’s a prerequisite for deep critical thinking. Somewhere like the Guardian.
I’m assuming most readers of the DS know by now that if you have a bachelor’s or master’s degree, the chances are you have an inflated sense of how clever you are, a depressed ability to think independently and very little awareness that the main ability you’ve demonstrated is the ability to jump through hoops.
Not all, obviously, but on the whole…
lol This! 🙂
I’ve resisted because I could see that the people working the fear porn machine 24/7 were the same people promising salvation through the jab. Well, two jabs, actually, And you may need – whoops, no, you WILL need a booster… Familiar story to all here, I dare say.
But I believe the awakening may be further along that we suspect. Youtube hiding dislikes; mainstream media deleting comments – when they allow comments at all; even those stadiums full of Americans shouting FJB. We can’t see the size of the wave because we’re a part of the wave. The other side can see the wave, and it scares them.
Reminded me of being in a casino in Las Vegas; don’t know why – but if you’re familiar with such places, the lack of daylight, no clocks etc, the temptation carry on, might make sense.
I followed the three standard questions you should ask before accepting any medical intervention
I couldn’t answer yes to any of those, judging by the clinical trial data.
You and Zev Zelenko (and probably many others with brains left)
I’d put “Do I need it?” as the first question and I’ve found that you rarely need medical treatment if you give it long enough for the body to heal itself.
Paranoid conspiracy rant warning: I see the so-called vaccines as a tool of destabilisation. They are inherently polarising thanks to years of baiting with reductive terms like ‘antivaxxer’, so they are natural creators of division, which is what everything these past 5+ years in our culture has been about. They seem designed to put us in opposing and firmly entrenched camps. I wouldn’t be surprised to see the propagandists flip the script sometime soon and admit they have caused terrible harm, leading to a flood of hostility and lawsuits thus bringing down governments and paving the way for global governance.
I think you could be right.
The push to boost and withdrawal of slave privileges for those that don’t want to creates more and more on ‘our side’ so that by the time the floodgates open, society will be a roughly 50/50 split. Job done.
I think your conclusion is short sighted tbh. I think they will never admit it, they will normalize the joint flu-corona vaccine and advise everyone gets it at least annually.
If you want to go down the ‘conspiracy’ road, you only have to follow the words of the globalists themselves to understand their eugenics mindset, and their ultimate agenda.
https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/tyranny/the-stupid-will-believe-it-and-ask-to-be-treated-pandemic-to-depopulate-1981/
OK – might be. Can’t quite stretch to the depopulation agenda. A ‘crowded’ world was providing all the earthly riches any self-respecting billionaire could possibly want, why open themselves to the extreme risk of exposure by implementing a plan like this? I fully acknowledge that this might be denial!
Rent-seeking does depend on artificially raising population density, so depopulation does seem against their own interests.
The ‘virus’ is the excuse, the jabs are the method, they can avoid the jabs. Make them annual and they can control the numbers with adjustment to the recipie. It looks like they’ve been studying dosage already with Pfizers 5% of batches being rolled out in stages of toxicity. This is the data gathering stage of depopulation. The ‘Billionaires’ are underlings, the real men behind the curtain at the BIS don’t need money. They’ve been peddling the ‘overpopulation’ meme since Malthus in the 1800’s. Eugenics got a bad name from their men in the early 20th century so they renamed all the ‘eugenics societies’ into more familiar names, ‘planned parenthood’ in the US, and ‘The Welcome Trust’ in the UK (who have their hands on the control strings of 2% of global scientific research). Fauci et al control 70% of global science research funding! CBDC with a central private ledger is not the same as regular crypto currency, it’s programmable money that can be programmed to have a use by date, negative interest rates without the possibility of bank runs, ringfenced with GPS, and linked to a social credit system to keep the cattle in the right field. A global… Read more »
There was a video of the presentation where he equated the surplus to “rats” (to much applause and sniggering from attendees) but I can’t find it, here’s a WEF article discussing the presentation.
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/01/yuval-hararis-warning-davos-speech-future-predications/
It’s sobering stuff.
It’s the demographic time bomb. It’s no longer in the future. It’s already exploded. If They want their agreeable way of life to persist, then life expectancy everywhere – China, Germany, everywhere – has to be reduced, starting yesterday.
There seems to be a push on the concept of a joint flu-corona vaccine. So even if the ‘pandemic’ is declared to be over there will still be advice to take a generic vaccine to prevent a recurrence.
The irony is that it appears to be the case that the jabs have destroyed people’s immune systems to the extent that they may well need some sort of booster once or twice a year in order to reduce the risk of serious illness caused by all sorts of common viruses – even what used to be relatively harmless for most. It’s a win/win for Big Pharma and, sadly, a hamster wheel for all the vaccinated people.
Indeed. I’m sure the push to ‘vaccinate’ absoloutely everybody, is to eliminate the control group.
I completely agree.
“There seems to be a push on the concept of a joint flu-corona vaccine. So even if the ‘pandemic’ is declared to be over there will still be advice to take a generic vaccine to prevent a recurrence.”
There certainly is.
I was talking recently to a friend who works in NHS. They told me that they were being advised to get their covid booster and flu shot together because getting them both at the same time gives “extra” protection against covid.
I very much doubt that that medical professional did any research off their own bat regarding that advice, but since the jabs don’t stop you getting or passing covid on I don’t see how combining it with a flu jab would have that effect.
I’m actually vaccinated because I caught Delta.
You cannot get vaccinated (real definition) with the jab!
You know what, I don’t actually care why, his mum seems incredibly ordinary, in regards a “naturalist” liberal.
To vax or not to vax is his business, I wouldn’t dream of trying to influence his CHOICE, it’s only a shame he doesn’t reciprocate.
Thankfully I realized this early on at the start of the book, so I didn’t read it all because it really wasn’t worth reading in full, maybe iv’e just got a short attention span, but don’t expect pro-vaxxers to read it either, it’s way too long.
I think the people who’ll read all of it and be grateful for it are the unvaxxed who are feeling unconfortable and isolated amongst their “normal” vaxxed families and friends.
Yes, it’s all very middle class liberal, the need to justify one’s every move in the ant farm. It is one of the main reasons I hate socialism.
The article oozed schizophrenic liberalism. The irony was calling himself a contrarian, the definition of contrary appears to have significantly changed recently, another thing liberal’s like to do.