Sajid Javid Confronted Over Mandatory Vaccination by Unvaccinated NHS Consultant: “The Science Isn’t Strong Enough”
Health Secretary Sajid Javid has been directly challenged by an unvaccinated hospital consultant over the Government’s policy of compulsory Covid jabs for NHS staff. Sky News has more.
During a visit to King’s College Hospital in south London, Mr. Javid asked staff members on the intensive care unit about their thoughts on new rules requiring vaccination for NHS workers.
And Steve James, a consultant anaesthetist who has been treating coronavirus patients since the start of the pandemic, told the Health Secretary about his displeasure.
“I’m not happy about that,” he said. “I had Covid at some point, I’ve got antibodies, and I’ve been working on Covid ICU since the beginning.
“I have not had a vaccination, I do not want to have a vaccination. The vaccines are reducing transmission only for about eight weeks for Delta, with Omicron it’s probably less.
“And for that, I would be dismissed if I don’t have a vaccine? The science isn’t strong enough.”
Mr. James also revealed another of his colleagues held the same position.
Mr. Javid replied: “I respect that, but there’s also many different views. I understand it, and obviously we have to weigh all that up for both health and social care, and there will always be a debate about it.”
The consultant suggested the Health Secretary could use the “changing picture” of the Covid pandemic during the Omicron wave to “reconsider” the rule.
Alternatively, Mr. James suggested, the government could “nuance” the rules to allow those who have antibodies – but acquired from infection and not vaccination – to not be required to have a jab.
He told the Health Secretary that it “didn’t make sense” to dismiss doctors who already had Covid antibodies, but who did not want to be vaccinated.
“The protection that I’ve got from transmission is probably the equivalent to someone who is vaccinated,” Mr James said.
But Mr. Javid told him “at some point that will wane as well”. He added that the government takes the “very best advice” from vaccine experts.
“I respect your views and more than that I respect everything you’re doing here and the lives you’re saving,” the Health Secretary told Mr. James.
I respect everything you’re doing – but I’m going to sack you for not getting vaccinated, even though you’ve got antibodies and the vaccines don’t prevent infection or transmission.
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Well that’s Savid Jabhead having to dial it back a notch.
What a disgraceful, disgusting arrogant reply from Javid. Apart from anything the NHS does not deserve our respect. It wastes obscene amount of our hard earned money, when we need it for anything other than Covid we are either turned away or made to wait for a disgracefully long time, lazy GPs are spending all day at home well refusing to see patients, nurses are always demanding to be paid more money and on top of all that this organisation has the cheek to say it needs yet more of our money.
My dr has been excellent. I rang up in the morning and I had my issue sorted within 2hours. Yes he charged me £50 to sign my insurance form but we are in a global pandemic 😉
FFS! License to rip.
I have been unable to even enter my doctor’s surgery for two years, until I needed to get a medical report for my firearms cert renewal. GP charged 60 quid, cash, no cheques, had to come in to hand that over. No problem entering the surgery for that. Cold hard cash is like kryptonite to a virus.
I handed my weapons in at the pig shop the gp wouldn’t even entertain filling the form in..
Should have gone private – there are plenty who will sign you off.
Why the down ticks I’m 55 and Drs and the cunts on the desk have always been useless I’ve had 3 ops and had to pay private for them all.
Javid has ruined the “benefit of the doubt” given him by the British people- fortunately for him he is a Banker Millionaire.
Nice rhyming slang
Just remembered ,Javid i believe worked for ‘Deutsche Bank’ – the Bank pursued by the excellent Lawyer Reiner Fuellmich and convicted of a massive fraud involving a massive payout fine.
Obviously no connection – just ‘coincidence’ – like all those footballer deaths
Alok ‘offshore turbine bird-chopper lover’ Sharma, Rishy ‘Wishy-washy’ Sunak too.
Wishy-washy worked under Knight of the Realm Sir Christopher Holm, the Hedge-fund Manager who funds Extinction Rebellion to the tune of £50k. Peanuts. Father-in-laws is the Indian Bill Gates type, so he will do as he’s told. Take kids out and all that stuff.
You do realise the GPs are getting a fee per vaccination? Biggest transfer of wealth in history so far……
The slave expected a different response from his master?
Oh indeed. Imagine someone talking back to him.
The nerve.
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Do you really think sajid gives a toss about you? Newsflash, he doesn’t. Just doing a job. Lot of dirty work involved. Don’t envy the poor guy, but hey we all have to earn a living.
The cunt is taking money out of our pockets rope lamp post
You could always send him an e-mail?
UMMM Sky using the “vaccine hesitant” descriptor in the same vein they and others use the “non Muslim” descriptor….very telling imho.
“very best advice” from vaccine experts.
If you take the very best advice from salesmen, you’ll be spending a lot more than you need. I suppose javid’s on a kickback for all the taxpayer’s wasted cash.
Banker…friends in Davos places.
“javid’s on a kickback for all the taxpayer’s wasted cash.”
Probably has ‘his men’ go round to the likes of Faisal Shoukat to turn him upside down and shake some of Faisal’s ill-gotten gains out of his pockets.
RT Diagnostics, in case you were wondering.
‘Bin bags Faisal’.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/15614601/covid-testing-firm-dumping-kits/
What he meant was “I respect your views, but I will destroy your life if you don’t bow down to my pharma pals, and I don’t care about your patients who will suffer along because of it as long as I get the fat paycheck.”
That’s Javid -look how his approval rating has crashed – hopefully never to return
Throw him in the canal.
The alimentary canal? He coukd join Dungford at the far end of it.
Approval rating irrelevant. He’s part of, or signed up to the Davos Deviants. End of.
And a knighthood. Arise “Sir” Jabber!
Not enough jabs yet – the Porker is counting!
The Doctor did brilliantly. How he kept his cool I have no idea.
Exactly what I thought. They Dr is a jeffing hero.
Brave man – kicking back against the wall of lies sustained by the Media.
Forced vaccinations remain a crime against humanity under the Nuremberg Code – never forget Javid!
Hammersmith Police have a Crime Number and are investigating. a long list of very serious alleged offences.
Thanks due to campaigning hero, ex-Policeman Mark Sexton and heroic Dr Sam White putting themselves on the front line!
Yellow Card ‘official’ deaths after the jab now nearly 2,000 – many more suspected.
You’ll probably be aware of the item below, but for anyone who’s not seen it, here it is. It was posted yesterday, 6th January.
“Update 05/01/2022 from Mark Sexton”, at:
https://philosophers-stone.info/2022/01/06/update-05-01-2022-from-mark-sexton
I hadn’t seen this if it was posted elsewhere so thanks for posting.
GB News might run with this – Sky and BBC wouldn’t want to speak out against TPTB
Please stop this infantile silliness. The Nuremberg code is a set of suggestions, not laws, international or otherwise. No court will enforce it.
If you believe otherwise, the onus is on you to evidence it. Please astonish me by doing so without the usual tiresome rage-downvoting.
There are laws here in the UK that explicitly state that vaccines cannot be mandated. This is worth watching …
Anna deBuisseret – No Jab, No Job – Senior UK Lawyer – NHS – Employment Law (bitchute.com)
A lot of dead nazis will probably disagree with you
Kudos to the consultant for challenging Savage Jabbid. And, although it pains me to say it, kudos to Sky News for publicising the exchange of views. I do hope that the chickens are finally coming home to roost and the so called ‘vaccine’ experts that Jabbid refers to are thrown to the wolves. They deserve no better!
Exactly, usually this sort of discussion would be simply censored away. Most political “debates” are like that – only pre-approved questions allowed, and anyone from “opposition” usually holding back in their own self interest (because they do not want their own bollocks to be torn down to pieces during a next round). There should be more interviews when a stupid politician is squirming to answer normal people’s questions without an opportunity to end the interview and flee, as they are usually fond of doing.
When (or if) we see it on Al Beeb, it’ll be a breakthrough.
Holding breath.
Never. The BBC works exclusively for Globalist ends. not for the British people.
That’s why it looks very staged. Sky would never air it. The nurses do not answer so in steps the courageous Doctor.
People seemed to know the encounter would happen in advance, why would you have a media staged encounter if you wasn’t certain what they were going to say? The consultant didn’t really say anything controversial, certainly wouldn’t make people think they shouldn’t have got the jab.
Comcast Corp will be unhappy with their SKY underlings – they are for the Great Reset
The politicians employing the “vaccine experts” are the first lot which should be thrown to the wolves.
Well, all this time us sceptics have been told we must listen to the ‘experts’. They just never said which experts.
Now, medical consultant who works in ICU (the very sector we are all being crucified to protect) and has been on the front-line – if Sajid Jabbit tells you your views on infection-induced immunity are pointless, he is speaking as an expert.
As a money-man, he knows there is no money to be made from natural immunity. Vaccine-induced immunity on the other hand … and the more temporary it is and the more jabs it requires, the more money to be made.
When will the medical profession and those scientists with any integrity and scruples realise that the only expertise at issue is that concerning the raking in of huge, huge amounts of money?
By the way, did you ask Mr Jabbit if he teaches his granny how to suck eggs as he, a financier, explains to you, a medical expert, about waning immunity?
“As a money-man, he knows there is no money to be made from natural immunity. Vaccine-induced immunity on the other hand … and the more temporary it is and the more jabs it requires, the more money to be made.”
A blind man on the street should surely be able to see this – why can the general public of the UK not see it?
Hope that GB news covers this tonight and over the weekend
Quite.
It is very apparent that the government want you to listen to their selected experts, rather than other experts (which are panned by government agencies as spreading misinformation).
I think they’ll run out of experts that agree with them soon. Well, I suppose if they paid enough money they’d get some to continue to push the party line.
…or with a promise of a gong or two…
That would never happen, oh errrmmm
“there is no money to be made from natural immunity”
You’ve nailed it!
I remember distinctly one day when an important local politician visited our research institute. We, the young researchers, who were supposed to present our research, were briefed beforehand by our principals on how to explain things to him (“imagine you’re speaking to an idiot kid”). We were also advised to forgive, not act embarrassed and quickly change topic if he acts stupid or starts asking ridiculous questions (“Mr. X is a very busy man, but a lot of our grant money depends on his decisions”).
Later on I understood that this is the general healthy relationship between experts and politicians. The expert helps the politician cover his complete ignorance of any subject and shift blame if need be while the politician in turn helps the expert get (lots of) money from public pocket.
there is however money to be made from immunity testing, and I’m bemused that no one is jumping on that yet.
This is a huge positive folks. An expert in his field with over 20 years experience talks to a man who had been in his job a year and tells him he’s making a mistake.
More telling was the start of the clip where Javid asks the nurses, who are universally silent. They too think this is a bad idea.
Mark my words, SJ will scale this back in very short order. When senior medical NHS staff are telling him he’s making a mistake, he will change tack.
O man I hope so but I fear things need to get darker first.
They will – Immune Deficiency ( an Acquired Syndrome) from the jab following the destruction of the immune system is predicted.
No he will not – he is Banker a creature of the WEF and Schwab.
They all believe their time has come!
Its really not a good look is it?
I wish you were right.
What I think will happen is that the sawbones will be gone by Monday, and the senior nurse too, just to set an example.
I’ll be delighted to be wrong about that.
Javid’s eyes full of fear and anger!
Truth versus Lies – any odds?
Sajid Javid’s medical knowledge: A visit to Deutsche Bank’s first aid box.
Mr James’ medical knowledge: 4 years medical school followed by 2 years as a hospital houseman then specializing for 7 years then 8 years working in ICU’s.
I an “equal” and “diverse” ‘Mafia Model’ society, specialist knowledge doesn’t count -only bullying the weak, money and powerful friends at the top.
Therefore I have decided to ignore all the other views and not have any sort of debate about it and trample all over your human rights and shove this vaccine down your throat whether you like it or not, and whether it does anything or not.
Very unbiased and rational.
The man is a lunatic and should be locked above, along with most of his colleagues in government
They are deranged by their Absolute Power trip stupidly granted them again and again under the Covid Emergency Regs rubber stamped by our craven MPs!
Medical Science is not a “view”- it is based on facts. Javid is not fit to argue with the Consultant . He is an arrogant, self-important disgrace peddling fake propaganda science.
Let him debate with Mike Yeadon and last two minutes. These fraudulent ‘New World Order’ politicians need cutting down to size and should be forced to spend more time in Denton not Davos!
Who needs them? What good do they do?
Oh no, not Denton. He will have nowhere to Hyde.
Frost will sniff him out!
Nails it. Jabid v Yeadon.
Knock out win for Dr Yeadon within 30 seconds.
Who needs them? What good do they do? …… We would all be a lot better off without the parasite class , they have done and continue to do tremendous damage to ordinary people, transferring wealth to themselves using a system of crony capitalism and lucrative tax payer funded “government” contracts . A recently reported drop in the ocean example : Michele Mone tory peer awarded £203 million PPE contract.
Malteser head needs to vacate the planet quickly
Is that the same as ‘eight ball?’
The consultant also said, according to the Telegraph, that all those in ICU with Covid were very obese and had several co-morbidities. We knew this right from the start of this shitshow!
The BBC and the Daily Mail knew it too …but didn’t tell!
Man I have a new appreciation for consultant anaesthetists!!! Well done that man – if anyone deserves a knighthood……
Who would wish to share the soiled company of those recently Knighted by Johnson?
Very eloquent Sir.👌
Well saiid, Brave guy. At a minimum he will probably get the sack, could be much worse. This is not right.
The ‘sack’ would at least keep him alive and healthy. He could join brave Dr Sam White fighting the pack of lies and fake science spewing from the Government..
Did you see the look he was getting from the guy (presumably management) to his right?
Someone managed to take a picture from behind the anaesthetist’s back…
He’s lying. He doesn’t respect his views at all.
The consultant underplayed his hand: he should have said that he had better immunity than a vaccinated person, because he has. And it’s an awful lot longer lasting than the five-day wonder of the vaccines.
Speculation in other channels that this was set-up, otherwise why would we be allowed to see it?
Which channels, out of interest?
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Javid clearly knows better than a consultant anaesthetist.
Don’t confue SJ with the facts, his Big Pharma friends have already told him what to think.
The government mostly takes advice from Pfizer, who are making fortunes from their stuff. Without a shadow of a doubt, there is some sort of financial quid pro quo for the pushers.
See ‘Share options’… Sir Patrick Vallance see “Sir” Whitty … WHO, Gates Foundation and GAVI see Ferguson and Imperial College …Gates Foundation and the CCP.etc etc
A pox on them all
I think we are at the stage now where the governments must simply push the boosters because they have already pre-ordered so many of them.
There is no other semi-rational explanation left.
The doctor put his finger on the crux of the problem. All the “experts” cannot be experts in dealing with Omicron because it has not been around long enough. They should be listening to the infomation that is coming out of South Africa. Actual quantitative research (done in a labotatory) shows that what the consultant said is correct about the reduced effect of all current “remedies” on Omicron infected patients.
Frankly, Javid is clueless as he showed when he tried disengaging and then trying to change the subject.
He is a disgrace to Western Democratic Government.
I prefer the shorthand – CNUT.
I’ll say now, it will be absolutely nuts if they sack health workers over this in April, when it will all be over (if it isn’t already).
Sacking Health workers wrecks the Health Service
….consider that this is deliberate policy – just like interrupting supply chains with pointless PCR testing to create fake shortages and consumer misery!
A failed Health Service can be blamed on the “Unvaxed” as they are already attempting to do.
Despicable divisive Lies from High Places.
They are playing another game sadly still apperently invisible to so many.
That’s about the top and of of it David.
My Trust in Leicester is full steam ahead with the sackings.
A senior exec told unjabbed staff on zoom that we “were choosing to no longer work for the Trust”.
There were 1770 of us (over 10%)… I’m a Consultant and it’s almost like they can’t wait to make an example of me.
(I’m good at my job, few complaints and was in a leadership role til now)
I hope you are planning to sue for unfair / constructive dismissal.
I really could cry for you.
All the best.👍
I am so sorry to hear this. I hope you manage to weather the storm.
Keep fighting pal.
Stand firm, hard as it might be. You have made the right decision not to have the jab, particularly if you have natural immunity, and to not be coerced by employer/govt bullying, telling you that you are “choosing” to no longer work for the Trust. You are on the right side of the argument – in time this might play itself out.
It will never be over. Until we drive these people from power.
A perfect example of ” give them enough rope and they’ll hang themselves”
This From LockdownSceptics subreddit …
The accidental Sky News doctor was not accidental in any way shape nor form. NHS set it up and Javid accepted it. It opens 2 avenues of retreat for both parties, first it sets up the NHS not to accept the compulsory vax and then it will allow the care workers to go back to work. Secondly for the government it it is a crack to open up to start to say the vaccines dont work so we need to get on with life.
BY no means was this just a chance of the cuff Q&A meeting. Totally set up for a new agenda of backpedalling
They’ll also be setting up scapegoats ready to take the blame if it goes pear shaped.
Whether it was set up or genuine, it was good to see (briefly mentioned on bbc news at 10, surprisingly).
In either case, if my health board employer is anything to go by, the consultant’s employers won’t be too happy with him for undermining their precious vaccination programme and propaganda drive.
that’s about the size of it. Whitty, himself said at the last select committee hearing that by next year we would more reliant on anti viral drugs.
Plausible theory , perhaps many of us are being a bit naive to think this could get past the governments propaganda and dezinformatsiya unit and that it was not all choreographed .
If this is true – which wouldn’t surprise me in the slightest, then it is interesting.
It chimes with what over the course of the last 7 days felt like “backpedalling” on a number of fronts by the UK govt as far as England is concerned [shame same cannot be said of the celtic fringe].
If the govt is preparing to say that the vaccines are not the solution and we need to get on with life then the only way they will emerge from that with any credibility is if they issue an immediate order to the celtic fringe nations to tell them to remove the vaccine passports. And a full dismantling of the covid apparatus plus the Coronavirus Act and all accompanying measures. By their actions will you know them.
Makes me wonder if someone somewhere on high has been disappointed with what Omicron is doing and yelling “abort, abort, abort” while they all run for cover.
I worked as an ITU nurse for 7 years and the anaesthetist is considered top of the medical food chain. If they get told their going to lose their livelihoods they won’t go silently. For some insight into how they can behave when threatened look at the case at Manchester Royal with Dr Homer and Kamran Abbas. https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/manchester-royal-infirmary-fight-doctors-3202676
Arrogant prick(er) he may take the “very best advice” from vaccine experts but they aren’t the very best vaccine experts.
But they are the very best Snake Oil salesmen from Pfizer!
They will be the ones thrown under the bus.
The “vaccine experts” haven’t got a clue about even how their own gene therapies precisely work.
They may have e degree of expertise in gene tec..aided by computer modelling but they know the square root of F. all when it comes to the innate immune system.
I was under the impression that most sports stars , celebrities and msm journos were vaccine experts , however after listening to the Consultant Anaesthetist Steve James , I may have to reconsider.
But we’ve been tolled that all the people who haven’t had the jab are fuckwitts that need educating.
This is the beginning of the walkback. They won’t do it all at once; just incrementally. That this was ‘allowed’ to (a) be discussed with the health secretary in the open (b) filmed and (c) broadcast speaks volumes.
I don’t agree.
No. It just means they were taken by surprise by somebody speaking “off message”. They are probably so hubristic that it never occurred to them that somebody might have a different opinion and also be brave enough to voice it.
A complete set up, a climb down by all in the making. No way was this a chance encounter
Did not add that caveat to my post alas. That went through my head as well.
Possible, but so long as the fascists retreat I don’t care if it’s because they choose to retreat or not. This fight isn’t over but delay suits us.
The consultant want to protect himself and his patients.
The politician doesn’t want people to realise that the government has spend gazillions on injecting everyone with a vaccine that by any measure has extraordinarily poor performance and probably has made things worse.
Steve James is hundred times the man Javid is. Mighty respect. This loathsome Government is as craven and vile as it gets. This is particularly poignant and brings into pure relief the insanity and evil that exemplifies this Government and Parliament.
This parliament is loathsome don’t think the red and yellow bastards would do anything different they all need gassing.
Is this staged you think. Making way for pill popping instead of jabs. Hugotalks.com
Would that be Cyanide then – only one is required (but do remember to crack it between your teeth to get the full effect – some normal adverse reactions expected ).
Savage Jabber will be chewing the carpet tonight.
I noticed the doctor ignoring the menacing manager in the background. He probably thought, “I’m going to be sacked anyway so what the heck!”