Dr Robert Malone Tells Joe Rogan America is in a State of “Mass Formation Psychosis” Over COVID-19

A key contributor to mRNA vaccine technology Dr. Robert Malone – whose Twitter account has just been permanently suspended – told Joe Rogan in a podcast released on Saturday that America is in the midst of a “mass formation psychosis”. The Epoch Times has the story.

Toward the end of his interview, Malone suggested that people are in the midst of what he called “mass formation psychosis,” drawing parallels to the mentality that developed among the German population in the 1920s and 1930s.

In those years, Germans “had a highly intelligent, highly educated population, and they went barking mad,” Malone said.

“When you have a society that has become decoupled from each other and has free-floating anxiety in a sense that things don’t make sense, we can’t understand it. And then their attention gets focused by a leader or series of events on one small point, just like hypnosis. They literally become hypnotised and can be led anywhere.

“They will follow that person. It doesn’t matter if they lie to them or whatever.”

Several years ago, he said, people were “complaining the world doesn’t make sense” and that we weren’t “connected socially anymore, except through social media”.

“Then this thing happened,” Malone said, referring to the COVID-19 pandemic. “That is how mass formation psychosis happens and that is what has happened here.”

Worth reading in full.

As readers of the Daily Sceptic may recall, the “mass formation” hypothesis was first put forward last October by Dr. Mattias Desmet, a professor of clinical psychology at the University of Ghent in Belgium. You can watch a YouTube video of him laying out the theory to Aubrey Marcus here and read a summary of Desmet’s ideas in the Daily Sceptic by Kathrine Jebsen Moore here.

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BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

Well, he’s not wrong is he. The parallels are obvious with 1920s and 1930s Germany. And of course the loss of faith and the transcendent has amplified matters considerably. Everything that gave us a sense of who we are, what we are, and where we are going, has been mercilessly attacked (see Yuri Bezmenov). The void had to be filled with something. That ‘something’ is insanity, and it comes straight from the top.

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago

Joe Rogan’s TRUTH BOMB podcast might well have torpedoed what was just about floating… rotting hulk left of any MSM integrity. It was sinking anyways as a growing bunch of NORMIES defect away and are refusing hand-in-pocket to keep paying for the blatant lies, gaslighting and UK Govt Pravda style BBC parroted propaganda. The summary of the above [worth listening to in full] interview is as follows, with a US bias: Calling the Govt. “out of control” and “lawless” in their COVID response Proclaiming mandates for “experimental” vaccines which are non-immunizing is “explicitly illegal” Noting that India had great success with treating COVID early with drugs such as Ivermectin Calms “half a million” excess deaths have occurred due to deliberate government mishandling actions Science clearly shows those with natural immunity have higher risks of vaccine adverse events And finally, Dr. Malone alleges that globally people are living through a mass formation psychosis which then Google in real-time tries to kill-off as a SEO play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOV17TNybAY So expect more to be red pill swallowers…and finally wake up to as we have been stating here on DS for over a year – this lockstep global COVID response is a product of a well-orchestrated cabal… Read more »

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Bellingcat
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

‘Calms “half a million” excess deaths have occurred due to deliberate government mishandling actions’ – It can be argued the increase in excess deaths due to dementia / alzheimer’s https://staging.dailysceptic.org/tag/excess-deaths/ could be evidence of midazolam euthanasia that started as part of Govt COVID policy.

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

For sure BellingCat… then we have the catastrophic willful destruction of 1st world western economies due to lockstep lockdowns the costs of which… well not in my lifetime will that debt ever be paid back….or the hidden number of deaths and miseries counted.

As to mass formation psychosis… look no further than here:

https://twitter.com/KimIversenShow/status/1476940893147918339?s=20

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

I already posted about her last week. I’m sorry to say she can only be mentally ill and I have no idea how someone like that can ever be helped out of that state

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Good post – but who precisely will do the “reckoning” that you are so certain is coming and will be brutal? will it be in my lifetime?

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

For sure Milo, I am not an accredited scholar of history…

However I’m fairly certain over the aeons of time… most, if not all despots do eventually end up enjoying a personal physics lesson of their very own.

Equally…. I’m already way more than sure that the technonerds currently plotting to destroy our lives currently have also already found out that roaming public streets and venues without PSOs 24/7 in place is a no go. Then there is the further fact of the inherent vulnerabilities of their wives and children.

Now let’s take a leap of imagination… no matter how good the personal security measure seem to be for someone like Gates… sooner or later fucking about with the wrong people too much of the time… I promise you this… the chickens do eventually come home to roost.

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beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Years ago I was on a school field trip in Amsterdam and I happened upon a state visit by Caecsescu, President of Rumania. As I recall he specialised in tearing down people’s homes and rehousing the prols in concrete towers, a common folly of socialist planners. As you may recall the people of Rumania eventually dealt with this thicko in the time honoured way, with a few bullets. I love the quote from Shakespeare about the best laid plans of mice and men, and this provides me with an assurance that these globalist eggheads will go the way of all other megolamaniacs with grandiose ideas, in the due course of time. To every action there is a reaction – and the ‘awkward squad’ is an expression of that law.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  beornwulf

It is naive to assume that “the people” dealt with it. In reality “the people” were just instrumentalized to do the bidding of their new foreign oppressor, replacing one outdated form of dictatorship by another, updated one.

beornwulf
beornwulf
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

There may well have been shenanigans going on behind the scenes in what happened in Rumania and in Berlin when the Wall came down. However, what counted above all was a lot of built-up anger driving people (mostly young ones fo that matter) to openly defy the forces of oppression that they were faced with day by day. They weren’t concerned about what might follow. Thinking ahead would have stifled the spontaneity of the moment. Besides, the future is unknown territory – no-one (apart from Nostradamus and Mother Shipton) can assume to know how things will actually pan-out. Again, I repeat ‘the best laid plans of mice and men’.

T-Centralen
4 years ago

The full 1980s G Edward Griffin Bezmenov interview is indeed fascinating viewing.

Black Flag
4 years ago
Reply to  T-Centralen

Haunting

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

“Everything that gave us a sense of who we are, what we are, and where we are going, has been mercilessly attacked (see Yuri Bezmenov). The void had to be filled with something”

But that could also apply to me, yet I didn’t buy the big lie.

Why did other intelligent seemingly sane and very connected people buy the big lie and others like me did not?

I see evidence of mass psychosis everywhere and I see the parallels with 1930’s Germany vividly, yet other simply cannot see those same parallels.

I am currently reading a novel set in Germany during the second world war. With each page I turn I am literally saying to myself ” it is precisely the same playbook – why can others not see this?”

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

What is the name of the novel?

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

It is called “A Woman of War” and the author is Mandy Robotham – this is the second of her novels I have read and I cannot put it down. At times it is so closely mirroring the present day – in terms of propaganda and discrimination that I think to myself I should be taking survival notes!

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

I recommend reading ‘Ominous Parallels ‘ by Leonard Peikoff.

The books looks at what was taught widely in Germany and concludes that Hitler was the result of that.

He also observes that the same teachings are taught in America (and worldwide), achieving the same results.

It is a much more rational and intelligent idea than the moronic conspiracy theories put forward, theories that have no evidential justification and deny man has a mind.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Yes, the ideas of Weimar Germany have merely been recycled and rehashed since then.

Aleajactaest
4 years ago

Kathy Gyngell’s TCW site hits 14MM views, a 52% increase year on year.

Now there’s a conservative, or should I say, libertarian blog that doesn’t source from left wing rags.

https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/what-a-brilliant-start-to-tcws-new-year/

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

Meanwhile in the US T- Mobile has blocked the texting of links to Gateway Pundit by its private subscribers. The attempted digital closedown of Opposition views is obviously programmed for 2022.

Black Flag
4 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

It’s the good old fashioned British classical liberalism, a tradition which we should be proud of.

Hopeless
4 years ago

Back in March 2020, I thought that the UK had gone bonkers, along with the rest of the World. The madness hasn’t disappeared, but merely changes focus, form or intensity from time to time. The ties that bound our society were latterly at best tenuous, but have in many ways been destroyed. I can’t quite see how they can be rebuilt, when it seems every effort is being made to divide, conquer and subordinate by our so-called national government.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

Not madness – the only word is manifest Evil directed against Humanity!

John Dee
4 years ago

I’ve never entertained having a Twitter account, but learning that these woke boneheads see fit to cancel a bona-fide expert because he challenges their favoured mainstream narrative makes me wonder as to Zuckerberg’s and his cohort’s state of mind.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

you know you must be hovering over the target when you get taken down – almost a badge of honour

Free Lemming
4 years ago

Robert does seem to be getting credit for the phycological state theorised by Mattias Desmet. Don’t suppose it matters as long as the notion gets out there I suppose… although Mattias might disagree!

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

All good pre-publicity for Desmet’s book, which is due out in a few months, I think.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

So… arguing about copyright of ideas while humanity injects towards extinction – nice to see priorities are in the right order.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

You beat me to it David. Bloody pointless arguments on this thread and the GBD rebuttal thread is even worse.

People on here are letting each other down and that’s sad.

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Am I arguing anything here? I’m just pointing out that more people have taken notice since Malone started talking about this issue.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

Interesting to watch how these things gain wide attention. I was aware of it in late September, and as noted above it was linked on LS in October, but that circulation amongst sceptic dissenting groups caused barely a blip. But in December it clearly started circulating more widely, and presumably Malone was part of that.

As I noted below, you could connect this with David McGrogan’s points in the piece published here a few days back:

:Why Have Our Points Landed After All?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Under the circumstances ( the planned destruction of Humanity as we have known it) no, it doesn’t matter in the least.

GimpbusterMSc
GimpbusterMSc
4 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

you obviously didn’t watch the full pod cast, he didn’t claim the idea as one of his own thoughts and did credit it as Dr Desmet’s work

Free Lemming
4 years ago
Reply to  GimpbusterMSc

Jesus f*ckin Christ, the hate on here is unbelievable. Yes, I did watch the entire 3 hours of it actually, and no, I wasn’t saying Robert was taking the credit – I know he referenced Mattias, I said he was getting the credit. It was just an observation for f*cks sake, and I also said it didn’t matter. What the hell is going on when we’re starting to attack each other so viciously?

Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Toys pram.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Malone gives Desmet the credit. Who cares!

Black Flag
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

The medium is the message.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

I hardly think it can be credited to one person. People have been suggesting similar ideas for months now. Academics are like average height people on the shoulders of many dwarfs.

Mark
4 years ago

The amusing thing about this (for those of us here who have been aware of Desmet’s very plausible theories on this for months) was the way it kicked off a huge social media thing, with #MassPsychosis trending on Twitter all day yesterday (and the usual leftist suspects trying desperately to redirect the tag against Trump and Trump supporters (of course)).

I think this is another case of sceptical arguments now landing, where previously they just bounced off the public awareness. Hopefully it’s made a few people stop and think. Rogan has huge reach.

I was amazed that Rogan hadn’t heard of Gettr, and it was nice to see that the mention, combined with Twitter’s overreach in banning Malone, triggered a big jump in Gettr signups (which in turn spurred me to get around to signing up, which I’ve been intending to do for months).

refusenick
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

And Rogan now has a gettr account

Proveritate
4 years ago

Peter McCullough has said much the same for quite a while.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

I think he name-checked Desmet on his Rogan interview too.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

A total hero in my book for his whole stance from early on in this farce

rtaylor
4 years ago

The Covid-19 spells 19 years after the 9/11 spell is working a treat for some.

twinkytwonk
4 years ago

I listened to the whole 3hr interview on Spotify and I learnt a lot. The first thing I learnt is that this guy isn’t just someone who made a chance discovery as a PhD student and then failed to get a PhD as the MSM points out. He is an extremely well qualified scientist who runs his own scientific research company and has a track record of working with government scientific agencies. Furthermore, he goes on to talk about the trusted news initiative. Want to find out why”safe and effective” is parroted everywhere then read this : https://www.bbc.com/mediacentre/2020/trusted-news-initiative-vaccine-disinformation.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

One of the best long interviews I’ve seen on all this I think.

Malone is uniquely qualified to talk about these things, as knowledgeable about the “vaccine” science as anyone on the planet, and well connected both in pharma and the US biosecurity state, and also has excellent underlying ethics:

There’s two hills that I’m willing to die on. One is stopping the jabs in the children. And one is resisting the erosion of free speech, which is the fundamental principle on which our democracy and our society, civilised western culture, is built on.”

Also the discussion was wide ranging enough to bring in issues like Desmet’s mass formation, TNI, and also the abusive hounding of dissenting scientists and doctors. All vital issues.

Proveritate
4 years ago

This is an accessible presentation on mass psychosis:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
4 years ago

He’s bang in the money and for proof just walk down the average high street. People OUTSIDE with masks on. People in cars on their own – with masks on. Or at the start of lockdown – people stood on their doorsteps gormlessly clapping the useless NHS like zombies. This phenomena is all around us sadly.

JayBee
4 years ago

Here you go:
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/what-does-2022-hold
Why do I think this? Although there is a slight change of tone in the press, for a large chunk of the population, these positive news reports go in one ear and out the other.
Secondary school children have just been told that they will need to be masked the whole day when returning to school and 99% of people are adhering to the indoor mask wearing rules. Even in hospitality venues (where masks are not required) almost everyone wears them, dutifully putting them on to walk to their tables, taking them off to eat and drink, before then replacing them to go to the toilet or leave the building.
The anti-science brigade is growing, not diminishing, even with more and more data showing the true situation. These people have lived a lie for two years, they’ve used lucky charms (masks, face shields and vaccines) to make themselves feel safe and they don’t want to let them go or admit they were wrong.

The Dogman
The Dogman
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

I am afraid I am equally pessimistic. For every good news story, like the Malone interview, there are a hundred stupid stories. Yesterday the Daily Express was running with their horror that some people might have to wait up to nine months before they can have their fourth jab. I fear that the idea that you have to have a jab every couple of months is becoming normalised, as has already happened with masks and all the other guff. I don’t see the NPCs waking up in numbers yet.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  The Dogman

If it wasn’t so sad it would be funny. We have people on here desperate to dodge the jabs at all costs and out in the real world there are people worried they might have to wait too long for their fourth.

Black Flag
4 years ago
Reply to  The Dogman

If you think that’s bad, I’m going to have to wait over fifty years until Pfizer release their data so that I can exercise my fully informed consent per the Nuremberg Code and diverse foundations of bio-ethics.

50 years!

By then I’ll have 5000 jabs to catch up on too.

5000!

Crikey.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  The Dogman

“I am afraid I am equally pessimistic”

That’s because you are a character in a grimdark world….

TheBluePill
4 years ago

There is a huge difference now – they don’t actually believe it anymore. They just go along with it. But most importantly, people are not terrified of the covids because they know so many people who had it and it was just a cold. The operation is dead, so now it either finishes or they unleash the next wave.

Jane G
Jane G
4 years ago

It goes some way to describing the strange, zombified look people have if you point out the illogical nature of the things we are required to do, or suggest the vaccines don’t work very well, etc.

Trouble is, I’ve become so sceptical of everything over the last couple of years that I have to ask myself if I’m not also guilty of confirmation bias, and if I’m not also in a kind of hypnotic thrall to anti-lockdownism.
I guess the answer lies in being always in the minority, and looking for hard science to back things up, rather than behavioural science.

‘s okay; I’ve just reasoned some sense into myself….

OliveTrees
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

I think self-awareness is part of the key to avoiding being enthralled to mass psychosis. Or at least it helps.

The Dogman
The Dogman
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

Exactly that Jane. We HAVE to keep researching because we have to continually challenge our own biases. We would feel very stupid if we were wrong. That means we do far more research than people that accept the narrative (most of whom do none at all).

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  The Dogman

Yes-ironic that what we are actually doing is “following the science” (paying attention to scientific work that has been done/is being done, attempting to find and then investigate data/evidence and then applying logic and reason to try and gauge what is likely to be truth), something the Bozo&co haven’t done from the moment he first said it!

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago

(and some conformation bias in sourcing these is necessary due to the overwhelming bias towards the prevailing narrative that is all around us. That is to say, we DO get both sides of this issue, unlike most, who are unable or unwilling to think past the propagandists and censors to seek out alternative views)

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

The clue is in what was morally right in 2019. The same set of answers are also right today.

Smelly Melly
4 years ago

Not that I have a Twitter account but I’d carry being permanently suspended from Twitter as a badge of honour and something to be proud of. Hopefully it’ll come back a bite Twitter hard. Like they suspended Donald Trump but let the Taliban continue.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

I was banned for stating that black people in the UK are disproportionately more responsible for serious crime and murder than their white counterparts, which I backed up with data from the ONS.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

That’ll do it.

Modern day blasphemy, against the establishment Church of Antiracism and Political Correctness in General

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

which I backed up with data from the ONS

Truth is no defence in speech- and thought-crimes. In fact, it’s an aggravating factor.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

Technically true, but black people in the UK are also disproportionately more likely to be victims of homicide as well.

So at face value it seems like you may have been using selected data to justify labelling them as criminals, whereas on the other side of the coin, you’d have something like the Guardian using selected data to label them as victims.

The truth is actually a lot more complex, and solutions even more so.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

It boils down to the fact that large swathes of them basically can’t behave themselves.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

You mean like all the sheep out there with their masks and vaccines?

Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

Why? Because of race, or because of other factors, like the circumstances of their great grandparents?

I can understand why you were banned. Your first comment sounded reasonable. Your more recent one sounds like you’re not making enough effort to clarify whether you’re inferring causation or correlation so you sound like a twat.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

If the stats show that blacks commit far more violent crimes than whites and also are far more likely to be the victims of violent crimes than whites it seems likely that there is a huge amount of black-on-black violence.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

I’d be curious to know if among the same social strata, how the rates of black on black violence compared to white on white and asian on asian.

I’ve a suspicion that it’s nothing to do with the colour of anyone’s skin and everything to do with living lives that appear to have few other options than going to a shit school, living on a shit estate, getting a shit job if you’re lucky, eating and drinking shit, going to shit places and generally everything being shit.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

Meanwhile white mass murderers get knighthoods and elite pedophiles are fully protected.

JayBee
4 years ago

Americans still have the largest number and proportion of sane people though. It’s EUropeans again leading the pack of those going barking mad and being outright evil. And it’s Germans and Austrians again leading them in both disciplines and being most numerous as such.

dopamineboy
dopamineboy
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

As an ex-pat residing in the US I do see that America is resisting the madness more than any other nation. Perhaps it’s the individualistic “wild west” mentality that prevails.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  dopamineboy

The oldest, deepest sentiment expressing the American mindset: “Give me liberty, or give me death!” (Patrick Henry at the Second Virginia Convention, swaying his compatriots to support the Revolutionary War, March 1775.)

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Let’s not forget where all the madness came from (namely Trump’s political games with China). US has a surprising talent for infecting the rest of the world with its own domestic problems, and yes, once exported they tend to linger much longer abroad than they do at home (cf. last financial crisis). One could even say that it is the strategy upon which USA’s power is built.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Not the Deep State colluding with China?

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Nah, I don’t think the orange madman had anyone colluding against him. He had a lot of his own business in China, btw, so maybe it was him colluding while playing tough guy in the public.

AloysiusCocksnaffle
AloysiusCocksnaffle
4 years ago

I note that the term CV-AIDS (covid-vaccine (induced) acquired-immunodeficiency syndrome) is beginning to be used more. I think we’ll see a lot more of this important term.

https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/01/02/german-gov-data-suggests-fully-vaccinated-developing-ade/

You’ve had the vaccine; you’ve messed with your immune system; you’re in danger of CV-AIDS. Which is horrific and very, very sad. But, I believe, true.

iane
iane
4 years ago

Well, if this is true and applies to a significant fraction of the vaccinated, then the world is in very BIG trouble. I always felt there was a significant risk of some dire consequences a few years down the line, but, blimey, it’s less than a year since they started rolling out the euthanasia doses.

Bill Gates will be SO chuffed!

Liberty4UK
Liberty4UK
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

But only in the short term. In the longer term he will be haunted by millions of ‘Banquo’s ghosts.’ He is not immune to the horrors that Faustian bargains always end in. He should have read more Shakespeare and Marlowe and thought a great deal more. The man is doomed. That he is immensely wealthy and doomed doesn’t alleviate the horrors of a tortured conscience. I pity him.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Liberty4UK

Bill Gates lacks a conscience, I’m afraid. Isn’t that the definition of a psychopath?

Black Flag
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Pretty sure all of this is in retaliation for that time someone shoved a custard pie in his face. The nerd rage is real.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

The linked article makes for horrific, but somehow not surprising reading.

Considering the figures behind this I am sure that there are lab technicians somewhere working on a very expensive drug treatment which they will be able to EUA roll out [although that would be admitting they had caused the harms in the first place]

rayc
rayc
4 years ago

Eh, all it means is that the unvaccinated are much less likely to commit to the idiocy of frequent testing when they experience any light symptoms (because unlike the vaccinated they, correctly, do not believe that omicron poses much danger to them). Oh, and especially in Germany, they mingle less because they are pretty much not allowed to.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

For the 2017/18 flu season (or winter deaths) the BBC reported: “There were around 50,100 excess winter deaths in England and Wales in 2017-18 – the highest since the winter of 1975-76, figures from the Office for National Statistics show.” For this same period the Daily Mail reported: “More than 50,000 excess deaths were recorded across England and Wales last winter, official figures show.“Excess deaths refer to the amount of patients that died unexpectedly, calculated by comparing the mortality rate from winter months to the rest of the year.“The shocking figures have been partially blamed on the deadly strains of flu that swept the nations over the colder months of December to March.” Every now and then a more virulent strain of the flu virus shows up and people with weak immune systems and co-morbidities fall victim to it. This is what SARS‑CoV‑2 (with a survival rate of 99%) was in early 2020. It simply was a more virulent strain of the regular flu. Albeit, it had been made more virulent in a laboratory funded by the United States government.  SARS‑CoV‑2 was an attempted United States bio-weapon, the creation of which corrupt American scientists saw fit to share with China.… Read more »

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Was it flu in 2017/18? My mother, 86, died then, very healthy, planning her christmas in October, got her flu jab and 2 weeks later had a stroke and died.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Yes, I think it highlights how effective the controlled MSM have been this time around and also how politicians/experts were prepared to buy into the hype.

But the latter only did AFTER their usual “under the radar” approach (ie. Fauci, Whitty etc. on record favouring a herd immunity approach in early 2020).

The reason for the U-turns is a matter of conjecture depending on whether you subscribe to the cock-up or conspiracy theories (or both, a la Nick Hudson).

8bit
8bit
4 years ago

Desmet hasn’t said anything new. Cult psychosis is as old as history; Desmet has just highlighted it with a yellow digital marker. Nihil sub sole novum.

I part ways with Malone at the ‘mass formation’ point. Malone’s references to what occurred in Germany are inaccurate and ahistorical. Malone uses stereotypes and mass media memes as evidence of something. That is a no-no and unfortunately, puts him in the same place as media bosses who parrot disinformation to make a point. Malone should stop it. Those savvy media experts he says coached him before the interview should have warned him not to stray off his expertise.

I admire Malone and respect his science credentials, but he should avoid the ‘mass formation’ argument. His statements about how people were complaining about being disconnected in 2019 are hollow. I don’t recall anyone in 2019 complaining about being ‘disconnected.’

It’s an annoyance because throughout the interview with Rogan, Malone was scrupulous in not answering questions with speculation. Stick to the science, Bob, that’s where you hit hardest…

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  8bit

Over a three hour interview I doubt anyone could get through without stating some personal thoughts or opinions.

Black Flag
4 years ago
Reply to  8bit

I’m just a little inclined to agree, that it goes better for Malone’s credibility if he sticks with his area of expertise, but hopefully that is balanced by promoting Desmet’s message. Granted Desmet is standing on the shoulders of giants, but he frames the message well, and provides evidence and references Le Bon, who did most of the heavy lifting.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Black Flag

Yeah, but Le Bon lost his way after A View to a Kill.

Black Flag
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

So did James Bond.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  8bit

What rock have you been hiding under? His statements about how people were complaining about being disconnected in 2019 are hollow. I don’t recall anyone in 2019 complaining about being ‘disconnected.’ People have been talking about this subject for decades now. It’s been common for people to talk about it and the effects have been plain to see. You seriously never noticed? In fact, some would argue very convincingly that we are at the end point of a trajectory of alienation that even goes back to the industrial revolution! Hence why do many mass psychoses developed in the 20th century. I’d assert that this ignorance is precisely why we are here. So many people were too comfortable to notice that those around them were disillusioned or zombified. Particularly the older generations failed to notice that the younger generations were on a one way trip to cultural and social annihilation. It doesn’t surprise me that DS would attract many who are oblivious to this fact, in fact I’d assert that it attracts two polar opposites: Those who were doing reasonably or very well before and were fairly happy with things. 2020 was an anathema because it unreasonably put an end to… Read more »

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

And I think he was right to say it. A) he had a platform and B) when the man who invented the technology in the first place speaks out against the way it is being misused and offers the possible reason underlying it then people just might listen

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

What I observed is that the concept of freedom has long disappeared from political agendas – almost no parties using it in their programs since at least 9/11. So yes, people were ripe for the picking, but maybe not just because of the “isolation”, the anti-freedom agenda has been consequently applied for 20 years.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  8bit

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wUW1wjlKvmY

^^ Just the tip of the whopping great iceberg of disconnect. Note the date: 2017.

Tee Ell
4 years ago
Reply to  8bit

I can’t say whether your critique of Malone re. mass formation is fair, it seems quite vaguely articulated so I struggled to pluck out anything concrete.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

If I hear anyone say “stay safe” once more, I will flip

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

That and moronic restrictions being “justified” for the purpose of “keeping people safe”.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Or the vomit-inducing “to protect others”

Black Flag
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

In your best Wesley Snipes voice:

”The safety’s off motherfucker”

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I think “thanks to the vaccines” trumps that.

Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

The approved reply is “Stay Sane”

Victory Gin
4 years ago

I make Malone right – something certainly happened to western societies that definitely had elements of 1930’s Nazi Germany about it – deliberate segregation and targeting of certain sections of society which included barring them from shopping for anything other than essentials, also barring people from restaurants and travel and even meeting with family and friends, mandatory medical procedures being imposed and even a condition for keeping your job, endless fear-based propaganda by the msm, the censorship of any views that opposed the government narrative .. isolation camps in Australia and the forcing of aborigines into having vaccines they did not want with the same fascistic policies being implemented in New Zealand too – with the exeption of Sweden, Europe hardly painted itself in glory either where we got videos emerging of unvaccinated Austrian students pleading for help because they feared the fascistic policies of their authoritarian government. Are you going to tell me that this was normal behaviour for societies of western liberal democracies? I don’t recall reading about a similar and perilous change in society during the Hong Kong flu of 1968/69 or the Russian Flu of 1977/78. No, this sudden change in society was deliberately engineered just… Read more »

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John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  Victory Gin

I don’t remember ‘Russian flu 1977-78’ although Wikipedia says it was a real disease.

But I did have something very nasty in the UK in late summer 1977, age 24. I needed many days of bed rest.

I’ve had nothing like it since … only a few sniffles.

You’ve cleared up a mystery for me, thanks. I’ve always wondered if it was a very bad cold or flu.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

One of the criteria that needs to be fulfilled to bring about Mass Formation Psychosis in a population is to coerce the people to lose contact with reality. Another criterion is to make people’s lives meaningless. The Cabal have their ways of doing this. First off, they send in the clowns: “Boris Johnson picks Admiral Sir Tony Radakin as head of British armed forces.” Read it. Then observe Radakin in this video*. And weep. (And, of course, give Carrie Symons kudos for being a big influence on the clown in regards to this decision.) Oh, la la … this former First Sea Lord and Chief of Naval Staff … just loves the rainbow coloured chart on his office wall. No doubt, when Putin sees Radakin strut his stuff, he quakes in his boots. And what about China? One look at Radakin and they can quite rightly assume there will be no British navy sailing into the South China Sea, led by someone of Nelson’s calibre, to confront them. Radakin as head of the British armed forces is completely out of touch with reality, as well as instilling in those expected to follow his orders an unfathomable meaninglessness. It’s no wonder… Read more »

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Have a lookie at Biden’s pick.

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anon-mouse
anon-mouse
4 years ago

For anyone interested in watching the full interview, since YouTube banned it. It was uploaded to Rumble here

Joe Rogan interviewing Robert Malone

https://rumble.com/vrrkwz-joe-rogan-interviewing-robert-malone.html

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

It’ is fancy terminology to say people have fallen for age old tricks of manipulation, fear and propaganda but yes, basically. Today btw Malone has written that mortality for 18-64 year-olds is 40% up based on info from insurance companies

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/what-if-the-largest-experiment-on

Here it is already published as official European data. Scroll down to “excess mortality”:

https://www.euromomo.eu/graphs-and-maps

Susan
4 years ago

Thank God for this man!

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lordsnooty
4 years ago

ai what America is always in a mass formation psychosis.

RickH
4 years ago

A seminal insight into what is going on within the framework of social psychology – a caution against the simplistic ‘they’re just stupid’ or ‘it’s all communism’ explanations.

The interview with Mattias Desmet is a must watch.

jwills
4 years ago
Reply to  Black Flag

Thanks for sharing

Black Flag
4 years ago

Cometh the hour, cometh the man.

Truth H-Bomb.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Big thank you to Will Jones for making this a full-size article here at DS. Rogan has a huge audience, relatively mainstream, and has done us loony right-wing sceptics a huge service in getting this critically important message out there in front of normies.

It won’t be overnight… but this real medical viewpoint will have seep into mainstream consciousness now. A great viewpoint here on why this Rogan appearance is a stepping stone towards victory: https://quoththeraven.substack.com/p/the-mainstream-media-is-losing-the

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Thanks for the link – will be interesting to see what GB news makes of this and whether they cover it. Fingers crossed. It is all very well this being a full size DS article, but it is the normies who need to read it and hear what Malone has to say.

NeilofWatford
4 years ago

Steve Kirsch is on War Room right now, reckons US VAERs deaths under-reported by a factor of 40. I’m certain we’ll all hear much more on this. CeO of Big Insurance co in Indiana reported deaths up by 40% in 16-64 age range, very probably vaxxine deaths.
Shocking.
Major rally upcoming in Washington DC late January.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilofWatford

“CeO of Big Insurance co in Indiana reported deaths up by 40% in 16-64 age range, very probably vaxxine deaths.”

Yet the same CEO is saying they are putting their premiums up in counties with low “vaccination” rates!

Life Insurance CEO Says Deaths Up 40% Among Those Aged 18-64
Either he’s claiming there’s some bizarre unforeseen risk to being un-“vaccinated” that massively impacts the working population, or they are mis-allocating their premium increases.

Pretty bizarre, either way.

jwills
4 years ago

Great interview. I was disappointed when looking up the guy afterwards but it seems big tech or msm is out to discredit him? He did touch on this in the interview…

As for Germany the first book I bought when all this started to happen was the rise and fall of the third Reich. I knew something smelt fishy then with all my neighbours banging saucepans like Muppets. Remember how big the displays were in London, incl the emergency services which didn’t seem to stretched to my eyes.

Bungle
4 years ago

I’ll copy here the summary of the interview I put on the other part of this site. Part 1. “RM says he studied to be an MD and had an interest in retro viruses and immune-deficiency in monkeys. From there he went in to vaccines for AIDS, gene therapy and technologies for RNA, filing patents in 1989. He was more than an academic as he wanted to see what products could help people. At 9 mins, JR asks him why Twitter banned him and the next 10 minutes is a discussion of ‘Big Pharma/Tech’s’ dislike of those promoting ‘vaccine hesitancy’. RM says discussion of risks and informed consent was banned. RM stresses the cross-harmonisation of all these parties in Pharma, government, the media etc, particularly Thomson-Reuters and Pfizer. From 20 mins, JR asks what RM’s first reaction was back in Jan 2020 and RM tells him he was very worried, had a severe bout of ‘Wuhan’ with “burning lungs” and had 2 injections himself. Realising the inadequacy of ‘vaccines’, RM became interested in repurposing existing drugs like Ivermectin & Hydroxychloroquine, both on the WHO list of essential medicines. With SARS-CoV-2 these have been administered millions of times and are very… Read more »

AloysiusCocksnaffle
AloysiusCocksnaffle
4 years ago
Reply to  Bungle

Many, many thanks for this summary

Bungle
4 years ago

My pleasure, friend.