A Third of ‘Covid’ Hospital Patients Are in Hospital For a Different Reason

Data published on Friday shows that the proportion of ‘Covid’ hospital patients in England who are in hospital for a different reason and only test positive for Covid incidentally has increased to 33%. Mail Online has more.

One in three patients hospitalised with Covid in England aren’t actually being treated for the virus itself, official data revealed today.

NHS figures show the proportion of so-called ‘incidental’ admissions – patients who happen to test positive after seeking care for a different ailment – is continuing to tick upwards.

Just 5,578 of the 8,321 virus-infected patients receiving hospital care in England on December 28th were primarily being treated for Covid, equating to around 67%.

This is down from 71% from a week prior and 74% down from the start of December, in another sign the Omicron wave is milder than previous surges.

These cases are from patients taken to hospital for an unrelated reason, such as a fall or broken bone, who just happen to then discover they also have the virus.

It means thousands of patients who are being counted as coronavirus admissions – suggesting they are severely ill with the condition – are not actually suffering seriously with the virus.

Many only tested positive once they were on wards – and may have simply caught the virus while there.

It has raised concerns that the headline statistics – which drive Government decisions on restrictions and lockdowns – are overestimating how many people are dangerously sick with Covid.

Worth reading in full.

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realarthurdent
4 years ago

Any step which might result in prolonging the pandemic and increasing public fear, like exaggerating the scale of the problem via manipulated statistics, has been enthusiastically taken by the government.

Any step which could result in shortening the pandemic and reducing public fear, like putting statistics in wider context has been rejected by the government.

Tells you all you need to know, really.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

“Data published on Friday shows that the proportion of ‘Covid’ hospital patients in England who are in hospital for a different reason and only test positive for Covid incidentally has increased to 33%. ”

Of course they have been dumbing us down for years.

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bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago

Exposing the never ending plandemic BS, mendacious lies and worst of all IMO the factual counter narrative science denial – Rogan talks Dr. Malone – worth listening to in full.

https://unityprojectonline.com/news/dr-robert-malone-md-on-the-joe-rogan-experience/

So why would lockstep G7 Govts destroy their economies purposefully and kill thousands of its innocently naive and too compliant citizens?

We here reading at the Daily Sceptic know exactly why.

https://twitter.com/emmakennytv/status/1476195690661527563?s=20

It’s never been ever about health or ‘normal’ people’s well-being.

Happy New Year folks and more than ever my friends HOLD THE LINE!

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David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

We are part of an ongoing carefully planned Pharma experiment – they have plenty more vaccine variants to try out on us and years to do it!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

Where do people go when they take down Telegram

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

@realarthurdent. Your observations are correct, but unfortunately this doesn’t tell us all we need to know – in particular it doesn’t tell us what the planned next step is.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

I’m not sure they know what the next step is, I think they’re in a bit of a holding pattern, wondering how they get from here to their destination.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Why would there necessarily be a next step? Coronas has been hugely convenient for all kinds of cranks, enabling them to force their arbitrary lifestyle choices onto others, and by now, a huge Corona support industry has sprung into existence which depends on continued government handouts and continuing political support to be profitable. Hence, it’s pretty likely that there isn’t much of plan beyond Keep it going for as long as possible.

Even the vaccine assport is just business: A web-based app has been developed and the enormous data centre infrastructure to roll it out nation-wide. The more extensively it’s mandated, the more £££ are flowing to the people living from it.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

A vaccine passport does not need an enormous infrastructure. I could store vaccination status of the entire Earth’s population on a single mid-sized server. The pretending that some sort of “enormous infrastructure” is needed for this trivial application is another way to grab public money.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Considering that 2 bit per person ought to be sufficient, about 1.8G of storage would be enough for that. But this doesn’t mean a cheap laptop on WIFI would be able to handle the WWW part of this, where one can reasonably expect millions of requests per night for London alone.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

No they are in motion …..every step is planned. We are like Beagles smoking cigarettes.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Eventually, aftew the cull, humans will be bred into two completely different species. There will be the elite composed of 0.001% of the population with all the wealth, human augmentation and AI, and the remaining 99.99% will be low IQ remote control worker drones implanted with RF chips, nano technology and neural lace.

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Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Middlesbrough is like that already

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Can’t guess the next step but all you need to know is the end game.
Digital ID =Control.
That’s why the bastards jab kids – tis the future.

It ain’t about a virus.
Never was, never will be.

May they rot in hell forever.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

End Game? You forgot populatiom reduction.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

The carrot and stick is how they get so many to be compliant with their dystopian plans.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

“Fear” – as Goering said, with total a control of the Media all Government Agencies and the NHS as an enforcer.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago

As they were last winter too. So when are people going to realise they’ve been lied to and stop obeying stupid and pointless restrictions?

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

Based on the bloke I just saw walking through the woods with a mask on, it may be a while

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

😂😂😂 Made me laugh out loud,….. it shouldn’t but I’m beyond caring about the ‘truly lost’ now.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Same here.

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

And me! I’ve actually started barking CUNT at such people. It’s theraputic and it gets a clear message across

Hopeless
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Probably intent on the sort of things that people do when concealing their faces in remote places. Or, perhaps, hayfever seasons have changed?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Fauci and others took part in an investigation of the causes of death in the 1918 Flue epidemic in 2008

People wore masks.Fauci concluded that wearing masks was the principal cause of their developing bacterial pneumonia from their reduced oxygen intake and retained and constantly re- inhaled breath -a condition which followed on from the flu virus and was the principal cause of death.

Fauci has been the chief advocate of multiple mask mandates and their wearing in all circumstances at all times – in spite of little evidence of their efficacity.

Michie has made similar demands for mask wearing in the UK.- saying that they are here to stay!

paul smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

Ask yourself the following – how many people like to admit they’re suckers?

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

“(H)ow many people like to admit they’re suckers?”

That’s the principle of the salesman’s technique known as the “low ball”.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  paul smith

Better admitting you are a sucker than ending up as a “medical experiment” statistic in a project devised by deranged psychopaths.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

‘It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.”

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Backlash

It is common for victims of conmen not to report crime to the police because of all the shame associated with admission of having been taken in. I think the same phenomenon can be translated into public reactions to uncovering the grand pandemic scam.

Another comparable experience is priests who abandon their faith – a very rare occurrence despite many having doubts – because of the associated stigma and loads of cognitive dissonance. Generally, the longer you are entrapped by a false idea, the more difficult it is to get rid of it. That is what our pandemic managers are counting on.

Plus, of course, there are so many direct beneficiaries who have no personal interest whatsoever for bringing back the old normal.

mishmash
4 years ago

Is this a re-published article from 2020?

cornubian
4 years ago

Professor Norman Fenton put this on his twitter account. Sums up the scam nicely.

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realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Brilliant. Sums up the scam perfectly. And no one in the MSM is calling them out for it, even now.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

The NYT is part of the problem. Editor makes a video boasting about having his ‘booster’ and calling anyone who doesnt have it a prick. Next day he collapses and dies of a heart attack. No joke. This really happened.

Vxi7
Vxi7
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Name? Link to video?

chris-ds
chris-ds
4 years ago
Reply to  Vxi7

NYT confirmation of death
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/12/22/business/media/carlos-tejada-dead.html

Alex B screen shots of booster boast

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/a-ny-times-editor-has-died-of-a-heart/comments

Instagram page of booster boast has been removed

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

Also

https://thenationalpulse.com/2021/12/26/ny-times-editor-49-dies-one-day-after-moderna-booster-shot/

“Carlos Tejada, a New York Times Deputy Asia Editor, has died at the age of 49. He suffered a heart attack less than a day after posting to social media that he had received a Moderna booster vaccination.”

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  chris-ds

Whay cant people look up this information themselves instead of ordering others to do it for them?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Lazy – they seek out material which confirms their decisions and fixed opinions – all advertisers know an play on this!

They seek cognitive consistency so as not to feel “uncomfortable” with dissonance.

Vxi7
Vxi7
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

You mean today when everything is ‘factcheck’ results or completely barricaded off or removed from the internet? Many of the information only circulates on telegram… So it’s just easier to ask someone who already knows the story.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  Vxi7

Why not say please.. its good manners..

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

The world’s MSM are paid to keep quiet. How they are betraying us!

$314 million dollars from Gates goes a long way!

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

Norman Fenton is one senior statistician who has kept the faith, and spoken out.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Yes TOP MAN. One of the few who will come out of this with credit.

TheGreenAcres
4 years ago

It has raised concerns that the headline statistics – which drive Government decisions on restrictions and lockdowns – are overestimating how many people are dangerously sick with Covid

Well done at the back, only 12 months late but we got there at last.

Jon Garvey
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Only coincidental that, at the same time, Anthony Fauci is instructing the US that they ought to distinguish cases admitted FOR Covid from cases admitted WITH Covid. Silly, ignorant people for not realising for 2 years.

But notice the lockstep between governments again. That is more significant than the actual announcements, though directs one to asking why the message is what it is.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

I guess they’re just trying to look as if they’re still in control of the narrative. Not an easy task.

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

The lies will have to get bigger.
Sadly the sheep will swallow the lies.
Dear God, why do I have to share planet earth with these cretins.
And please don’t tell me the easy way to avoid this!

martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
4 years ago

Most of us knew this from the beginning

martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
4 years ago

What kind of pandemic is this? Deaths were recorded as covid if you’d had a previous positive test. That was reduced to 28 days which is still bullshit and they record people with covid hospital despite having a broken leg in the first place. How on earth are people still believing this bullshit?!!!

J4mes
4 years ago

Just watched as another football match was stopped to allow medics to attend a spectator who’d “suddenly taken seriously ill”. It was the Watford – Tottenham match.

Too early to know what the illness was or if they recovered, but this is now a regular occurrence.

NeilParkin
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

There appears to be evidence that the vaccine causes Myocarditis, but there is also evidence that the virus, that thing 10m of us have had in the UK, causes Myocarditis too.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

According to Dr Peter McCullough, the myocarditis caused by the virus rarely requires hospital treatment, unlike that caused by the vaccine.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  NeilParkin

I thought climate change caused myocarditis.

A passerby
A passerby
4 years ago

What’s more surprising is that anyone is ever surprised.

Star
4 years ago

Just 5,578 of the 8,321 virus-infected patients receiving hospital care in England on December 28th were primarily being treated for Covid, equating to around 67%. Lies! 1. Covid requires double pneumonia as a symptom. 2. Cretins who use the word “Covid” to mean a SARSCoV2 infection (or even a positive SARSCoV2 test) can’t have it both ways. Sorry. If you want it to mean just a SARSCoV2 infection, then that doesn’t necessarily mean the person even has a single symptom of anything, let alone a symptom that would, or even COULD, be “treated” in hospital. So the questions are these: A. What is wrong, physically, with these 5578 people who are supposedly being “treated for Covid”? You can’t be “treated” for having had a positive test result, because that’s not an illness. Those among them who are rushing to hospital because they’ve got runny noses, or indigestion after eating too much Christmas pudding, should be f***ing ashamed of themselves. Just tell me ONE THING that is physically wrong with SOME of them, to the extent that it is being TREATED IN HOSPITAL. B. Out of interest, how many of the 5578 became in-patients? Or does being handed a tissue by… Read more »

RickH
4 years ago

I think we rationalists have known this for a long, long time.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

In the United States there are huge financial incentives for hospitals to have patients registered as being treated for COVID-19, and to register as many patient deaths as possible as being a result of this disease. One person was taken to hospital with a gun shot wound to his head. He died in hospital, it being fair to surmise that it was the chunk of lead that entered his brain at the speed of sound which killed him. While his gunshot wound was being treated, he was swabbed for COVID-19 and found to be positive. This patient was then registered as having died from COVID-19. Dr. Robert Malone said, I paraphrase: Hospital’s get something like 3000 bucks ($3000) for each time they register a patient as having died from COVID-19, and also get a sum of money for each COVID-19 patient they treat. So, in the US, if you go to a hospital with a broken leg, while being treated for this injury you will be swabbed for COVID-19. If the proven high-rate false-positive PCR test shows you have COVID-19, the hospital’s administration has a financial incentive to register you as a COVID-19 statistic. I’d bet my right arm that… Read more »

GimpbusterMSc
GimpbusterMSc
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

whether or not the gun shot victim in the U.S. was an urban myth it was actually true in the Third Reich – sorry i meant New Zealand, early in November a man was murdered by being shot 3 times, with three people held with the view to charging them with murder. Yep, you guesssed it_Covid death, it was enough to make even the supine NZ media question it, I didn’t keep on top of the outcome but the initial story is here :
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland-shooting-new-lynn-victim-robert-hart-tests-positive-for-covid-19/J7GON3TOB44563L4WWJYTUZNCQ/

struggled to find the original news piece questioning his inclusion as a covid death but it is included in this piece from America
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/healthcare/new-zealand-man-who-died-of-gunshot-wound-to-be-recorded-as-covid-19-death-report

Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

This case reported in October highlights the nonsense of ‘covid’ deaths and that coroners are in on the fraud. It is debatable whether the patient, Mr Patel, was even in need of mechanical ventilation but, nevertheless he was placed on a ventilator at one of the London Nightingale hospitals. An incorrect filter was used and Mr Patel was essentially suffocated and suffered cardiac arrest as a direct result, causing his death. The coroner reported (my highlighting) that:

“Whilst Covid19 was the overwhelming cause of Mr Patel’s death, the cardiac arrest and renal failure caused by the blocked tube was a factor.”

” His death was in small part contributed to by a lack of HME filter in a wet ventilator circuit, caused by the use of an incorrect filter”

It was discovered that 10 other patients at the same hospital had the incorrect filter used in their ventilators. One can only imagine the true tally of similar ‘covid deaths’ nationwide.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10084815/Staff-Londons-Nightingale-Hospital-contributed-death-Covid-patient.html

Lilacblue
Lilacblue
4 years ago

Latest from the trust, over 1000 staff off “with covid*, ie positive test but not actually ill or contacts there of,10% of the workforce. Are they asking for retired or otherwise to return to help out? No, they want extra people to man the absence phone line because they can’t cope!

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

If DS wants to investigate research look into this Dr. Sam White, Dr. Wolfgang Wodarg | Intentional Killing in this Organised Trial 46mins

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

I’m sorry for their plight, but whenever in history did 5,500 people (mostly old, who will soon die anyway) hold 56,000,000 to ransom, with moral blackmail?

We are living in a topsy-turvy tyranny, perpetuated by a self-indulgent and perverse generation of policy makers and ‘experts’ beholden to antichrists they fear to displease.

It will not end well for those in charge.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I don’t think older people are holding 56 million to ransom. You have been watching too much MSM.

None of us older people enjoy seeing the lives of our children restricted, far from it. If the future even resembles my worst fears I shudder to think of the misery facing our youth.

Nobody should try to claim that restrictions are there to protect the oldies, that is morally reprehensible.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Maybe the older patients arent holding the country to ransom, but they are being used as pawns by other older people to do so. The political leaders and globalists are largely older folk. This is partly a generational crisis and it wasnt caused by the young or early middle aged. This crisis followed on from cultural decline instigated decades ago by heresiarchs who refuse to relinquish power. Not all older folk are to blame of course, but there is justice in castigating the Boomers nonetheless.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

There is little coherence to your above statement.

Older people are blamed because of the actions of the older people in power.

A generational crisis following on from a cultural decline caused by those who refuse to relinquish power? Eh, come again.

Not all the oldies are to blame but they can cop for the blame anyway.

Illiterate nonsense.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I know it’s hard to take the blame for your generation. Maybe you fondly remember the 1960s.

But it’s perfectly logical to assert that the old people in power now caused the screwing up of the society they rose through the ranks of.

Not everyone who is now ‘old’ was personally responsible for it, but who was if not those who agreed to and continued to permit the decay that ensued?

Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

The old people in power like Doris Handycock, Savage Jabber, Sunak ?
They’re not exactly pensioners are they?
So by your logic its the people in their 40’s & 50″s who are responsible, maybe you fondly remember the 1980’s.

The rational thing to do is to admit its a cabal problem, whereby 90% of the population of whatever age have no awareness of the decisions being made.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Nessimmersion

All I am saying is that the current mess goes back to the 1960s on a cultural level; which can hardly be denied.

Geriatrics like Clinton, Biden, Fauci, Schwab, etc. are at the pinnacle of the cabal.

Of course younger people are involved, but they didn’t cause the cultural malaise that precipitated this situation (they may well have participated or capitalised on the malaise and situation).

Those who don’t want to admit that their generation has SOME blame to answer for – like every other generation – are merely confirming my thesis.

When in history have the old had such advantages in money, power, property, and life chances compared to the young?

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Small-minded, illiterate nonsense.

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I am one of the old and have always advocated those among us who are frit shield themselves and let the youngsters (under 65s) get on with their lives. I would have locked down voluntarily at the start just to let others live normally, but the government in its wisdom? decided to make us the focus of their measures (although I never heard anyone mention shielding grandpas) and hence a degree of resentment from some who blame us.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

THEY are not holding anyone to ransom. How would THEY have known the result of those things that were thrust upon them? If they’d been given the choice, with the wisdom of hindsight, many of those who could have chosen, would have chosen to give what remained of their lives for their children.

I daresay you’ve got something bitter and small-minded to say about baby boomers too!

(Oh yes – I’ve just noticed you managed to get in a dig…..)

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

What?

They are cooking the books?

Who knew?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago

Only one third?

Apparently their next trick is to merge Covid with Flu to justify even more mixed vaxxes and coercion horrors. No doubt a reluctant Johnson will be “forced to act” to wreck our lives – yet again. ( Same co-ordinated patten around the world of course -Israel as the weathervain.)

Alarming reports now point to verifiable graphs illustrating that the numbered vax batches are not all provoking the same number of adverse reactions and deaths – certain identifiable batches have a much higher fatality rate associated with them – some batches even have no fatalities -so are they experimenting with us as they go along!

‘Bioweapon’ anyone?

Believe nothing any poltician or MSM journalist says.
Cancelling Robert Malone on Twitter – start of a new ‘propaganda offensive’?

Oh when will the sheepie wake up?

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

A really important question is “What proportion of those who are actually in hospital for Covid are jabbed?”. Since the NHS seems extremely unwilling to answer this obvious question I think we all know the answer, after all, if most were unjabbed they’d be screaming it from the rooftops. Since we are a relatively small minority if we were the only ones getting it we’d be in and out of hospital as though we were stuck in a revolving door.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

One of the worst deceits by health services is in Robert Kennedy’s book, The Real Fauci. Anyone who dies within 10 days of a jab, no matter whether it is the first or third, is counted as an “unvaccinated death”. This is important because it is deliberately covering up deaths caused by the “vaccines”.
I’ve read somewhere that this is happening in the NHS as well and wouldn’t in the slightest surprise me since they have falsified everything else.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Weren’t we aware of this happening in the UK a few weeks ago? It’s not a new concept.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago

The headline is from the file labelled ”Stating the bl**din obvious”.

LonePatriot
LonePatriot
4 years ago

There is an ivermectin panic on the big tech and MSM right now. Massive articles from MSM on Ivermectin trying to push a danger narrative and also negative press on Americans Frontline Dr’s, again, to keep the Covid narrative alive. Just go to the Goog and type ivermectin then look at all the panic news articles. We are over the target. Big-Pharma is panicking. This medicine has been widely used by humans without any problems for 40 years. It’s inventor won a Nobel Prize after 20 years of successful use and after 100 million people were cured of a broad spectrum of problems without any side effects. Get your Ivermectin while you still can! https://ivmpharmacy.com