One in Three Covid Patients May Have Caught Virus in Hospital
Up to one in three Covid patients may have caught the illness in hospital, official figures show. That makes it hard to use the Covid hospitalisation data to justify new lockdown restrictions. The Telegraph has more.
At the peak this week, 31% of Covid patients included in the NHS’ daily admission figures for London had already been in the hospital for more than a week before testing positive, suggesting transmission occurred on the ward.
Separate figures show that of more than 6,000 patients in hospitals across England who have tested positive for coronavirus, 29% of them are primarily being treated by doctors for other conditions.
It comes as the figures for admissions in the capital edge towards the 400 a day mark, which the Government is said to be using as a threshold for introducing new lockdown measures.
Ministers have been carefully watching the picture in London’s hospitals before making any decisions, as its omicron outbreak is a few weeks ahead of the rest of the U.K.
But both scientists and MPs have called on the Government to consider the fact that many patients with Covid may actually be catching it in hospital. They have urged them to discount those being treated for other conditions from their calculations.
Ministers were warned that further restrictions would be “difficult to justify” if they did not look at the facts behind the data.
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Question is, can pure bloods be protected from spike protein shed and ADE?
What is meant be ‘caught’ ? Tested positive after admission ? And what does it mean to be admitted with Covid ? Admitted with what we used to call pneumonia + positive PCR ?
It’s quite possible people get exposed to the virus and test positive afterwards, and some might even be ill with covid before they come to hospital, and others might get ill with covid after they get to hospital, because of exposure during their stay. But the proportion of hospital patients this represents out of the whole who are in hospital for others reasons in unknown, and therefore as you rightly point out all of this data is meaningless.
The tests have a 90percent plus false positive rate (ignoring the fact that the whole thing is made up from computer formulated genetic code and Convid is a made up illness aka pseudo science aka complete and utter bullshit so the false positive rate is 100percent), so none of it matters anyway, we may as well get monkeys to pick names out of a hat and label people Covid positive that way and it would have about the same degree of scientific merit and integrity. Were talking about positive PCR tests here – the same trests that have been deemed not fit for purpose in multiple courts of law and by the inventor of the test. You dont have to have symptoms to “have” convid, its a bit more um…..nuanced than that – but its very real and nasty if you get it. Symptoms, schmymptoms, whatever, just take the damn test if you want the NHS to look after you, then pray you dont test positive and end up on a Convid ward, earmarked as an antivaxxer, to be wheeled off to the ventilator suite to be taught a lesson in the benefits of complying with with deranged antiscience. Trust… Read more »
Blah, covid, blah blah, covid, blah…..
Don’t test. Don’t comply.
Yes of course. Never have never will. But people who end up on hospital are vulnerable and there is a power imbalance and they get told that they cannot see a Dr/be treated/scanned/operated on/have visitors etc unless they comply. It requires strong mind and strong body to refuse.
Yes. I am not seeing a GP about a health problem, which requires hospital scans, for exactly this reason, and I will not be the only one. The avoidance of hospitals is not just from the sector which – rightly – fears getting Covid there.
That’s all useful collateral for the Faucists, Whitty, Vallance, Farrar, Ferguson, Michie etc
To quote Billy Connolly “more people die in hospitals than in any other building – if I get sick, take me to McDonalds”
From the boaters’ forum by someone who used to call me a super-spreader because I didn’t fancy getting jabbed:
“For the unjabbed, take care, just did 2 lfts both positive, with the supposedly non existent covid. Got PCR tests booked for tomorrow. Had my 2 jabs and booster so cross fingers… Couldn’t sleep last night, feel shite today.
Is it worth not getting the jabs cos you’ve listened to Tracey, Karen and Emerald Fox spreading irresponsible nonsense on the internet.”
My reply: “They worked well, then!”
“Well I quite like masks…
I have one with reindeer on
one with Llamas
2 with pretty flowers
A spotted one
and a few other randoms. All triple thick and when I went theatre in Brum wore a disposable as well..
The way I see it is I can mouth obscenities at all the idiots and not get clocked.
Nope yet managed to fully match up a mask with my boots but working on it”
All such fun, isn’t it? Silly cow.
What was the reply? The old favourite “it would have been worse otherwise”?
I’ve migrated from a polite “exempt” to ignoring them to more of a Anglo-Saxon based retort.
I lost a sister to lung cancer. Would it have been worse if she’d smoked?
Rub it in Foxy, rub it in.
Break through their cognitive dissonance.
Merry Christmas everyone. Stay strong, the story is starting to unravel now and we will triumph.
I was last in hospital when I had my tonsils out as a teenager. I’ll take my chances with Covid, thanks NHS!
I came to the conclusion quite a long time ago that well presented, sane and rational interpretations of actual data, like this report, while encouraging, are to some extent wasted. The government have decided on a path and won’t be budged. What led me to that conclusion? The very clear evidence and now well documented facts that the government are waging psychological warfare on the citizens of this once great nation, paid for by their taxes The coordination and apparent movement in lockstep of the European and English speaking nations, the developed world, if I can used that non pc phrase The readiness to give emergency approvals to novel experimental therapies with no long term safety data The readiness to condemn possible alternative therapies for no apparent reason, other than embarrassing President Trump The readiness to impose vaccine mandates, and the willingness of the government to incite division and hostility, perhaps even hatred towards those who choose to exercise their bodily autonomy not to be jabbed. The readiness to destroy the economy and destroy education for a virus that poses a risk mainly to older age groups and the vulnerable who are not working or at school The readiness to coerce… Read more »
This has been the case throughout all this. Part of the problem over the last couple of years is the media reporting just about everything as if it’s a revelation.
How dare the NHS demand that we are locked down when they are the biggest Covid spreader in the country! That organisation is disgraceful.
exactly, it seems based on the data, the NHS should be in lockdown, not the general public
The NHS is on lockdown
Has there been urgent funding of UV air treatment systems for every hospital and clinic? No. That would reduce fear. Reduce infection Reduce deaths..
Has England bought huge supplies of the new traditional vaccines? Which would likely be accepted by swathes of the pariah unvaxxed?
No. That would result in the rna products being shunned.
It is very clear what this is about.