Triple-Vaccinated More Than FOUR Times As Likely to Test Positive For Omicron Than Unvaccinated, Data Shows
According to early data published on Tuesday by the ONS, the triple-vaccinated are 4.5 times as likely to test positive for a probable Omicron infection than the unvaccinated. The double-vaccinated, meanwhile, are 2.3 times as likely to have a probable Omicron infection.
The data from the ONS Infection Survey, while provisional, adds support to the claim that the Omicron variant has significant vaccine evading ability.
Note that this is the probability of an infection being Omicron given a person is infected, so it doesn’t tell us how likely a person is to test positive in the first place. This means it doesn’t tell us that the vaccines are making things worse overall, only that they are making it much more likely that a vaccinated person is infected with Omicron than another variant. In other words, it is a measure of how well Omicron evades the vaccines compared to Delta. The fact that the triple-vaccinated are much more likely to be infected with Omicron than the double-vaccinated confirms this vaccine evading ability.
The data also doesn’t tell us anything about the severity of Omicron, or how well the vaccines continue to protect against serious disease.
It does mean, though, that the current Omicron outbreak is largely an epidemic of the vaccinated and is being driven, not by the unvaccinated, but by those who have been double and triple jabbed. Combined with the fact that Omicron has quickly grown to be the majority of new infections, it suggests the vaccinated are playing an outsize role in the current outbreak.
The complete table, with modelled data from the ONS Infection Survey, is reproduced below.
Thanks to Daily Sceptic reader Nick Rendell for producing the graph at the top.
Postscript: This article was factchecked by Reuters, which disputed many of its findings. You can read that fact check here.
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When you hear of an unvaccinated person becoming ill with covid, the overwhelming odds are that they caught it off a vaccinated person.
But they are not being selfish – the archbishop said.
👏🏾 Klaus tells Welby what he can and can’t say🤫😉😉Welby is an odious WEF shill
What does this mean? I don’t do twatter.
Apparently Archbishop Welby has stuck his foot in his mouth again. He has strongly implied that Jesus would have wanted us all to get vaccinated.
That said, as far as I can tell the Heil are lying when they say he “suggests” that Jesus himself would get vaccinated.
They quote his words:
Welby is a former oil company executive and an Old Etonian.
His greatuncle was Rab Butler, who as well as being at various times Foreign Secretary, Home Secretary, and Chancellor of the Exchequer was also master of Trinity College, Cambridge.
No prizes for guessing which Cambridge college Welby went to.
Ugh, Welby mate. That basic old reductionist argument? And if a new treatment based on the maiming of minors were the only way to reduce your already incredibly tiny risk? Would that be loving one’s neighbour too? I shouldn’t be angry really. I should be entirely unsurprised that the Arch Blasphemer is spouting blasphemy at the head of his apostate “church”. For his position on this, and the continuing total Globo-woke destruction of the CofE, Christ would shake his head and say “I never knew you.”
Welby is a Davos / reset plant.
This has beem obvious from the day he was appointed.
I’m told that Jesus wasn’t fond of the ‘moneylenders’. So if he were alive today he would hardly agree to take their poison.
Jesus? I think the Archbishop is working for the other side.
Who can possibly doubt it?
Welby is a classic good old fashioned Fifth Columnist.
In the good old days we had firm deterrents against their deviant machinations.
He is ‘only obeying orders and they certainly do not come from the Almighty!
Jesus was pretty tight with Lepers, so he might just might empathise with unvaccinated people…Welby..what a shill.
He was appointed to destroy what’s left of the wobbling C of E and has dome a fine job!
“Arshbishop” of where? Nowhere is this Realm – he is just a Davos Friendly ex ‘oil trader’ isn’t he?
Is that the Archbishop that just insulted ang judged millions of unvaccinated people? If course it is! We are the new lepers……. unclean……… Unclean…….. UNCLEAN!
I am pretty certain I caught COVID from my vaccinated other half. The whole family had mild illness about the same time back at Easter. She tested negative but I tested positive (but did not register the result as per my policy of non-engagement), and we didn’t test the kids.
(I didn’t really want to test myself but thought it might shut everyone up about getting vaccinated if I could demonstrate I’d had the coof)
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415v1.full.pdf
Results: SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees had a 13.06-fold (95% CI, 8.08 to 21.11) increased risk for breakthrough infection with the Delta variant compared to those previously infected, when the first event (infection or vaccination) occurred during January and February of 2021. The increased risk was significant (P<0.001) for symptomatic disease as well. When allowing the infection to occur at any time before vaccination (from March 2020 to February 2021), evidence of waning natural immunity was demonstrated, though SARS-CoV-2 naïve vaccinees had a 5.96-fold (95% CI, 4.85 to All rights reserved. No reuse allowed without permission. (which was not certified by peer review) is the author/funder, who has granted medRxiv a license to display the preprint in perpetuity. medRxiv preprint doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.08.24.21262415; this version posted August 25, 2021. The copyright holder for this preprint 7.33) increased risk for breakthrough infection and a 7.13-fold (95% CI, 5.51 to 9.21) increased risk for symptomatic disease. SARS-CoV-2-naïve vaccinees were also at a greater risk for COVID-19-related-hospitalizations compared to those that were previously infected.
I do wish they’d write these scientific papers in plainer English
But they don’t and won’t.
Anybody who really understands something can explain it simply.
Moreover, someone who really loves a subject (i.e. they are an amateur) is likely to enjoy explaining things simply to those who don’t and who ask them questions and who seem genuinely willing to learn and investigate.
Unfortunately under present conditions many who are paid for working in this or that professional occupation (and who probably haven’t asked any interesting questions for decades, possibly since they were undergraduates) love to puff themselves up and be as obscurantist as they can. As far as I am concerned, the lot of them can do one.
It behoves those of us who have worked to understand this or that aspect from a critical point of view to summarise quick explanations and to spread them in the critical community – and of course, to be ready to be called out on them, but that’s unlikely to happen if we’ve put in the work, and if it does happen, no problem, just learn and recalibrate.
What is an absolute TRAP is to try to compete with the obscurantist “scientists” using their obscurantist technical language. Unfortunately it happens a lot.
Shall I summarise the above paper and this article itself?
The ‘vaccine’ does not work.
Quick explanation – people who have had 1, 2 and 3 shots are still getting infected, still passing on infections, still getting ill, still ending up in hospital, in some cases still dying.
The ‘vaccine’ does not work.
But it would have been much worse if….
It will be much worse…. this is ‘work in progress’!
I don’t understand. The vaccine is both highly safe and highly effective; how does ‘not working’ fit into that??
Hey, if people could so easily accept the lie that this sludge worked in the first place, it should be even easier for them to accept the truth that it does not. At some point even the densest mind will have to say “you know, I’ve had 5 booster shots on top of my primary series of 10 shots and I’ve still had covid 6 times and ended up in hospital twice – this stuff obviously doesn’t work”.
The proof will be in the toxic pudding.
In a twisted way I’m rather looking forward to people having this horrible realisation. It’s not going to be fun to watch though. I suspect the cognitive dissonance will carry a lot of them through at least another three boosters but this doesn’t end well, does it?
They are not going to wake up for some time yet.
Unless they start dropping like flies immediately after being jabbed they simply can’t bring themselves to believe that the government and institutions they have trusted could be doing this. Even when they start taking us away, even when they have lost all their property and money, even when they are dying 20 years early and totally dependent on regular jabs, even when they are utterly miserable they will be blaming the unvaxed. I used to think 20% of the population was naive and stupid, now I think it’s 80%.
Maybe when they see the effect on their kids, just maybe.
If they do drop like flies , the MSM will not be reporting it …so how do we find out?
In fact ,it may be happening already…how would you know?
How can you find out if your wife is really her and not a clone put in her place by aliens? Gosh, it may has happened already and you will never know for sure!
And you think this is a smart response to the fact of an MSM, bought out by Gates ,saturating the country with omission, lies and propaganda for 18 months?
Deaths and injuries from these vaccines reported under the Yellow Card system are officially assessed at only a maximum of 10% of the actual figures. That would put the number of deaths at around 17,000 and the vaccine injuries at 12 million.
Where have you seen that reported?
Not very amusing really.
What is not very amusing is your outlandish claims that do not in any way take into account the normal death rate that with or without vaccination. And given how much publicity this pandemic has gotten, and that the majority of (death-prone) population has gotten the jab, it is no wonder at all that the systems are swamped with reports.
It is happening already. They are just being classified as Covid cases/ death! I now have 4 colleagues who have had the Booster all of which ended up in hospital one having to have 3 months off work because it affected all his nerves and joints.
Yes – Omicron has been hyped to conceal rising vaccine injuries and deaths.
They will be putting Omicron on the death certificates – just as they did with Covid last year when Flu disappeared from the stats.
Omicron is a smoke screen. Apparently stocks of midazolam have been raised again.
Brilliant statement.
I’m currently on the receiving end of being excluded by lots of jabbed people because I am unjabbed – I would imagine the exclusion isn’t on health grounds precisely, but because they consider me to be “selfish” or “socially irresponsible” because I won’t get jabbed to “save other people”. I also have to get through 2 full days of christmas festivities with 2 households of fully jabbed, full on covidian people. It isn’t going to be pleasant.
And I agree with you CG, by the time we get to more boosters, those same people excluding me aren’t going to be in a pretty state. It isn’t going to end well.
Oh my god, do you have to spend Christmas with them? It won’t be much fun. I have a covidian relative who told me I was going to die (and it was said with relish) because I have refused a booster and am not playing the government’s game anymore. However, I have just spent a few days with some unjabbed friends and it was so good to have a laugh about things and generally piss take. Have you noticed how bloomin’ serious the true believers take all this? It was a breath of fresh air to chat with the like minded. Sadly, it is driving a bit of a wedge between me and my husband because we have different points of view…I went to stay with my friends alone – says it all really, doesn’t it?
Milo at least you’ve got your health, your life and your sanity. Have faith and have courage. You seem to have it aplenty. I for one will say that, even if it is mandated, I won’t have it in any event.
Go out for a nice bracing walk each day ….. one that takes 5 hours.
Not looking forward to the constant talk of ‘I’ve had my jab/ when’s yours?/ can’t be too careful/ stay safe/ ooh- how many cases, they have to lockdown don’t they?/ where’s the sanitiser?’ etc. for days on end. I do hope they exclude me- I’d much rather spend the time with my dogs than endure another Christmas like this. If people can’t see the self-defeating argument for what it is I really don’t want to spend time with them. Or listen to their children whinge about the climate crisis/ emergency/ catastrophe or whatever levels it’s been ramped up to at the moment. The fact that this is all taking place under a supposedly Conservative government is the ultimate punchline.
when the world finds out they’ve been hood winked they will get compensation, the unvaxed won’t!!
“Compensation”? When Fiat currencies are abolished and all money confiscated by the Central Banks? Dream on! You cannot be serious!
Gates, Vanguard and Black Rock will have all the money by then!
“You will own nothing ( and being a vax-filled Zombie) will be happy”
See “Great Reset” video.
Foremost it won’t end well for the unvaccinated when the vaccinated’s frustrations are unleashed on them. All you need to do is invent a story of how the plan would have 100% worked if everybody got on board.
Post hoc rationalization of one’s own decisions and failure to admit a mistake is a very powerful force, as you can see by your own example.
So just as you invent new ways to explain to yourself how all vaccinators are evil poisoners, the vaccinated crowd will invent new ways to explain how you are the source of all misery. The trouble is, you are in minority… and they have all the guns.
The vaccinated are the Zombies …our Politicians are the White Walkers!
I don’t think and have never said that vaccinators are ‘evil poisoners’; I think they’re ignorant people who haven’t bothered to read up on the toxin they are injecting into healthy people. I think the people pushing them on us for opaque reasons are evil.
Please read RFK J’s assessment of Fauci’s 50 year career and Gates’ record in Africa and India and perhaps reconsider your position on ‘evil poisoners’?
But surely the “ignorant people” are to blame for their relentless “ignorance” as well? Which would make them at least somewhat evil in your crazy eyes?
Not at all. I know a few of them and don’t think they’re evil; just pawns in a scam they haven’t bothered to look into that has nothing to do with health.
People are already dying – now including helpless children — after accepting it into their arms.
People are already dying in significant numbers – now including helpless children — after accepting its injection into their arms.
Witless and Unbalanced have been saying since these vaccines were rolled out that they do not confer immunity neither do they prevent transmission. They just lessen the symptoms which might prevent hospital admission. So it’s all BS. ONS figures that show it is the vaccinated in the majority that are getting the alleged Omicrom variant. Yes ADEs are visible now. Will someone tell the truth now like the South African Govt?
I think some people will still be saying these vaccines work and it could have been so much worse, as they give out their last breath. A mixture of insanity, not wanting to lose face, and brainwashed stupidity. Given the posions that have been found in these vials by Scientists, I doubt very much that many people will survive beyond a certain number of doses unless they have been lucky enough to receive the placebo each time.
Er… people catch and transmit the ‘virus’ after being injected and others suffer shocking side-effects or die directly after accepting the injection ….or shortly after.
Seems to be working just fine!
Plan is going great then! Kill off as many of the population as you can by vaccination!! Bring out your dead
Yes … and then claim they were killed by Omicron!
Though I’m happy to entertain such a notion and wouldn’t put it beneath any of the suspects, I feel I have to exhaust all possible interpretations before I accept it. It does look like it though.
And yet it still works better at preventing severe illness than not getting vaccinated.
Yes, so I’ve been told many times. Been told, have not seen it demonstrated in the real world.
The primary reason here in NL for getting stabbed is to not burden the hospitals. Yet the official hospital/ICU admissions chart on the Dutch corona dashboard does not show any evidence of there having been fewer hospital/ICU admissions since the vaxx roll-out. Since November the country has had more infections than ever, excess mortality coming close to that of March 2020 and for a longer period of time.
So sure, it’s a great mantra, the data just doesn’t back it up. But never underestimate the placebo effect – someone gets a dreadful flu like illness and is down for the count for 2 to 3 weeks and wants to believe the jab juice saved them, by all means.
You are comparing apples and oranges. That the hospital admissions have not fallen since rollout is irrelevant. The only relevant part is the hospital admissions that can be avoided thanks to protection offered by the vaccination.
And we could of course see those numbers based on the proportions of unvaccinated entering hospitals (vs. vaccinated) at the beginning of each wave – those 90% unvaccinated admissions were precisely the ones that could have been prevented (but weren’t). We could also predict that they proportions will change toward the vaccinated, because the unvaccinated “dry wood” is simply burnt through. It still does not change anything about the fact that when the vaccinated become un-vaccinated because of their diminishing vaccine-induced immunity, they will become “dry wood” again. And the means to prevent this from happening is renewed vaccination.
It is really not so difficult to grasp when you look at it without prejudice, just considering the technicalities. And, before you start screaming again, it still does not mean that forced vaccination is ethically acceptable. What is objectively true and what is subjectively (un)necessary are two very different things.
First of all, in NL they have been claiming since approx. February that the vaxx worked because there was a clear drop in hospital admissions – there was no such thing. That was one of their main claims to the vaxx working. The other was that the vaxxed did not get infected and did not transmit – they had to let that one go in October as so many vaxxed were getting infected. They managed to hide just how bad it was by not drawing attention to the fact that the bulk of infections in unvaxxed were in schoolchildren who could not be vaxxed. Your argument of proportions changing makes no sense – whether or not the unvaxxed dry wood goes first, according to you the vaxxed would not go at all, not that they simply get to stay a little longer than the unvaxxed. The more likely argument is that the vaxx suppresses symptoms for longer, but does not protect those people who will not be able to overcome the virus due to age, unlying illness or genetic flaw. As for getting poked again – that may provide some temporary protection, but that must be weighed up against the… Read more »
Yep Israel is a good example. Just look at their death rates since they imposed vaccination. Sky rocketed. BTW I thought it was very funny that the CEO of Pfizer was refused entry to Israel because he was unjabbed (and refused to take it) but some political jittery pokery ironed that little anomaly out.
Of course the CEO of Pfizer was unjabbed – what does that tell you?
Another lie – the reason why he had to bend the rules was because there were travel/quarantine restrictions in place – NOT related to his vaccination status. But of course, keep on lying.
And what do I care what stupid politicians in NL have claimed? I watch the statistics and listen to sources that have never made such outlandish claims that you triumphantly declare as debunked. Tellingly, you do not have anything to say about the core issue, namely that had the vaccines not worked as you pretend, there would never have been a situation in which 90% of hospital admissions were unvaccinated regardless of the high vaccination rate in population. How do you explain that one in your crazy world where vaccines don’t work? Instead of pulling in other irrelevant claims / straw men to console yourself? Nobody has ever claimed that the vaxxed would “not go at all”. It was very clear to experts from the beginning that the immunity would probably wane with time – the only unclear point was how fast. And I do not even know a single dumbest politician who would go on a limb claiming that vaccines offer 100% protection. Yet this is the silly claim (apparently fabricated by the unvaccinated echo chambers) that you are barking at. As to the “possible longer-term negative effects to the immune system”, there are none known. You are simply… Read more »
These vaxxes are pretty important to you from the looks of it. Your normal ability to present a clear argument seems to go out the window. a) It was not politicians who claimed this, it was the medical experts on the OMT who said the vaxx’s effect could be seen in a drop in hospital admissions, which simply never happened – the numbers are clear. If they are not to be trusted on this point, why should they be trusted when they claim the vaxx is safe and effective? b) For over 2 months now in NL 50% or more of hospital admissions have been vaxxed, according to the official numers. As you should know, according to UKHSA since the summer over 70% of hospital admissions have been vaxxed, I believe similar figures have now been published for Denmark. That 90% number is a figment of someone’s imagination. In any event, the real determining point should be how many people out of 100 people who are infected end up in hospital. If 2 people out of 100 vaxxed people end up in hospital and 2 people out of 100 unvaxxed end up in hospital, it is clear the vaxx makes… Read more »
“And I do not even know a single dumbest politician who would go on a limb claiming that vaccines offer 100% protection. Yet this is the silly claim (apparently fabricated by the unvaccinated echo chambers) that you are barking at.”
“You’re not going to get COVID if you have these vaccinations”
-Joe Biden July 21, 2021 – Mount St. Joseph University, Cincinnati, Ohio
Good point JaneDoeNL. Firstly, Rutter needs to go. Secondly, of course you are right, the rhetoric doesn’t match the actual data.
No evidence.
No evidence whatever for this claim..
It does not work against their ‘enhanced’ manufactured bio-weapon virus …but it has certainly already ruined and ended many lives across the world!!
Makes a mockery of what the NHS are claiming of being overwhelmed with unvacinated people being in hospital with covid doesn’t it?
Part of the reason why papers are so unenjoyable is that the dry style is taught and required – papers likely to get rejected if they deviate from the expected dreary style too much. Some of this dreariness is justified because it’s intent is to keep the authors from engaging their ego and opinions and just stick to the reproducible facts. Another reason is that academics are by no means obliged to explain the basics to lay people whenever the communicate with each other – that would be very unproductive since the intended readership of their papers already knows all the basics. So obscure terse terminology is preferred over more accessible, but long-winded ways of describing things. The translation for general public is what “popular science” and “science journalism” are for. But for the most part, the boring style is used because – just like everyone – many authors are lazy, dislike publishing outright, really have discovered nothing and have nothing to say (but they are forced to by job requirements), or as may be, they would much rather focus on doing actual research than writing up. So anything that gets published and lets them “score” with least possible effort… Read more »
Read the conclusions:
This study demonstrated that natural immunity confers longer lasting and stronger protection against infection, symptomatic disease and hospitalization caused by the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2, compared to the BNT162b2 two-dose vaccine-induced immunity. Individuals who were both previously infected with SARS-CoV-2 and given a single dose of the vaccine gained additional protection against the Delta variant.
If they did, more people would be able to see through the lies!
The obfuscation and suppression of ‘real’ science for 18 months has been the method they used to force their evil agenda.
Why else would Johnson be “following” it into the Fauci – Gates darkness?
Covid-19 is a syndrome requiring double diffuse pneumonia after a positive SARSCoV2 test. No pneumonia, no Covid.
Covid-19’s former name was “NCIP”.
Probably for almost everyone, catching SARSCoV2 in all but an extremely high viral load is safer than getting vaccinated.
From memory, tests are supposed to have false negative rate (1 minus specificity) of less than 3% and false positive rate (1 minus sensitivity) less than 20%.
So if everything else were equal and assuming that tests only just meet the spec&sens requirements, then a positive result is less reliable than a negative one. On those assumptions, if you have THREE people with positive results, the probability is ALMOST A HALF (48.8%) that at least one of those positive results will be FALSE.
Well you should have way better immunity than the vaccinated. The vaccine primes you to attack the spike in 2 places whereas natural immunity attacks in 10-12 places I believe and not just the spike. Which means it should help with mutations just as SARS1 immunity helped against SARS2.
That’s ignoring possible OAS and ADE which makes the vaccine even worse than neutral if they are happening.
Just like MSM you are creating a false dichotomy. The reality is that you can both get vaccinated and infected, in any order, and gain (super)natural immunity that way.
Not if the pathogenic synthetic spike protein injected into you have their wicked way!
The cornerstone of every nutty theory is to quietly assume some things and then proceed to spin conclusions as if they were true, never verifying your base assumptions. If things do not develop the way you think they should have, you can just pile on further assumptions to explain away, but don’t you ever dare remove any of the old ones in face of facts.
Are you a troll? Just so that we know.
By the way, your comment, based as it is on unsubstantiated assumptions and in effect a ‘straw man’ pitch, makes no sense whatever.
You have clearly swallowed the entire MSM diversionary narrative whole and totally missed the big picture!
That’s what happened to me in August. Went to a party which was to the best of my knowledge 100% injected me being the exception. Whatever I caught was two weeks nasty.
Might just have been the physical effect of partying with Normies.
shedding maybe???
“Shedding” of spike proteins in the bodily fluids of the vaccinated .
Can someone help me out here. This ONS data and conclusions are based on ‘modelling’ ie they do not exist in reality and are simply the mathematical product of a computer programmers mind. Likewise, we have the SARS Cov II ‘genome’ which does not actually exist in the real world but is again a product of a software package that exists not in the real world but in some abstract form floating in cyberspace. So it looks like they are constructing a fantasy world of virology and then portraing their algorythmic outputs as reality.
How else?
Their immune systems are not working properly anymore.
Yes and a vaccinated person probably caught from a vaccinated friend/ family member…madness!
Bang on the money- Chris Whitty- Government Daily Briefing 11/05/2020. “A significant proportion of people will not get this virus at all, at any point of the epidemic which is going to go on for a long time. Of those who do, some of them will get the virus without even knowing it, they will have the virus without even knowing it, they will have the virus with no symptoms at all- asymptomatic carriage, and we know that happens. Of those that get symptoms, the great majority, probably 80%, will have a mild or moderate disease,-might be bad enough for them to have to go to bed for a few days, not bad enough for them to have go to the doctor. An unfortunate minority will have to go as far as hospital, but the majority of those will just need oxygen, and will then will leave hospital, and then a minority of those will end up have to go to severe and critical care, and some of those sadly will die, but that’s a minority, it’s 1% or possibly even less than 1% overall, and even in the higher risk group..Uh..this will be significantly less than 20% i.e. the… Read more »
And then he was kidnapped, driven to an empty East London warehouse, and waterboarded until he agreed to follow The Narrative.
He more likely was initiated into the Freemasons along with the rest of the scum
More likely the “Brotherhood of Lucifer”.
He wrote the narrative …he works for the Gates run WHO.
A significant proportion of people will not get this virus at all, at any point of the epidemic which is going to go on for a long time.
Of course – there never was an epidemic, as properly defined.
Was that the last time anything sensible came out of Sage.
That depends whether you are Fauci Gates or Schwab.
No. There was an estimate in July 2020 of 75,000 deaths due to lockdowns etc. I think they had a higher estimate at one point too.
Since then, they have spoilt it by failing (or refusing) to draw the obvious conclusions from Sweden, Belarus, South Dakota etc.
Pretty accurate summary of the future there.
The Canadian data I posted earlier would definitely seem to suggest being jabbed makes things worse.
How else to explain this?
The jabs don’t work they just make things worse
to Masks say no and we’ll see your face again.
The jabs have their own agenda and our immune system is in the cross-hairs!
AND the definition of unvaxed includes those vaccinated within 14 days.
So in every statistic about vaxed and unvaxed, the unvaxed are being overcounted.
I am pretty sure you added together the rates of the full and partially vaccinated to get an overall rate (do correct me if I am wrong). This is invalid. For example, about 50% of the partially vaccinated were female and about 50% of the fully vaccinated were female. It doesn’t follow that about 100% of the combined set were female! See my response to your previous comment.
Surely we all know this by now?
It’s been known for several months now that the vaccine effectiveness is negative, i.e. there are more cases per 100k in the vaccinated 30-60 age range. Which is the argument for why vaccine passports are useless in terms of public health. I’m sure there are many debates why this is the case, e.g. natural immunity is better at fighting variants or the vaccine actually hobbles the immune system. No matter what the reason, the facts are clear worldwide and at some point the vaccine program has to stop as it’s causing more harm than good.
It’s as if the vaccine is causing the disease …
It might be.
If one rejects unproven, orthodox Germ Theory and allows oneself to consider broader causes of COVID than virus transmission then this may be true.
A Terrain Theory perspective sees viruses as exosomes; a result of toxins that the body creates to enable it to remove them and communicate internally between cells as a warning mechanism.
The vaccine contains toxins. It is perfectly logical on this view of the world that the vaccine is associated with higher readings of the so called viral DNA.
This is speculative, of course. But so are all the mainstream interpretations.
No question that transmissibility is unproven. But what is “Covid” ?
Perhaps a ‘Bioweapon’ manufactured in Wuhan with funds from Fauci and “gain of function work” by Daszak and Baric?
Just an idea …see RFK J’s book for confirmation.
Just face it…the vax is causing the disease!
Yes, because the vaccine was created to counter the alpha variant, which is no longer circulating, to the detriment of immune response to other variants. Broad spectrum low affinity antibodies are vastly superior for this virus. Always have been, always will be.
This is exactly what Geert Vanden Bossche said would happen.
For fuck’s sake.
Winner. To embrace the forever-war idiom, we’re still handing out enemy aircraft identification guides to our defences and telling them to watch the skies, long after the enemy has switched to panzers.
It’s such simple biology that there are only limited conclusions that can be drawn:
They know, and don’t care, because they are making tens of thousands of dollars a minute.
OR
They know and are doing it on purpose.
There is no possible way that vaccine designers do not understand the problem. Zero, zilch, nada.
I think the same about the way the economy is structured by tax and regulation to maximise rent-seeking.
These bloody injections were made to a preconceived recipe and the current failures were built in to the recipes.
Of course the designers know about the problems.
As the vaccines have been under development for years you would think so – in which case everything that is happening – including deadly myocarditis in the young- is deliberate.
What they needed was a ‘deadly virus’ to go with the vaccines that were being developed to justify the Mass Vaccination programme Gates wanted – all just as Fauci openly predicted! Elements of the Corona virus protein had already been patented by Fauci and just needed “gain of function” added to fit the bill!
Talk about “hiding in plain sight”!
This is true. What they can’t have known from the outset however is what the effects they’d seen in the lab would do to a population at large. Hence this is being run like an experiment. Big Pharma is being Big Pharma; and it’s been given the political headroom to operate in a lawless fashion (which is how it has always operated and always would given the opportunity. Big Pharma is owned by the big four investment firms and the only political motive I can make fit is chaos and distraction to hide an underlying economic emergency.
I tend as a rule to agree with you CG but on this not. I am convinced pharma brewed these recipes knowing exactly how they would perform. I am convinced depopulation / genocide is part of the brief.
In all probability a financial crash is being engineered but it will complement and assist the genocide.
It certainly looks like a genocide and I have to admit I’m running out of alternative explanations! However, this isn’t dissimilar from a number of past Big Pharma experiments (which they have had to pay out huge damages for) it’s just much, much bigger. So I think in this case it’s the political space they’ve been given to operate in. They’re just doing their thing: maiming and killing people for profit.
And if it’s genocide, we have to look for a motive. Bearing in mind the parasite class were doing extremely well for themselves in the old paradigm. So I believe that there has to be an underlying emergency that ‘they’ have no control over. This has CIA written all over it; it feels like a destabilisation writ large. And they destabilise when they’re trying to engineer new political realities for economic reasons.
Mike Yeadon struggled with all the contradictions for months …and finally drew his conclusion – there was only one explanation : “genocide”!
It’s hard to tell, the obfuscation is so comprehensive, but there certainly is an economic emergency, regardless of the many theories being floated. It’s been coming since Benny Bubbles started printing like a madman. It could be argued that it’s been coming since Nixon sanctioned funny money. Maybe even from the creation of the Fed on Jekyll Island. Maybe even all the way back to Andrew Jackson. Perhaps even since the fall of the Western Roman Empire.
( I just like to watch the numbers spin for funsies: https://www.usdebtclock.org )
You’re absolutely right to remind me that we live in a Blackrock Vanguard wonderland though. Always has to be part of the consideration of what exactly is occuring, because it’s likely at their behest or strong influence.
The people who funded the Bolsheviks also funded those behind the French Revolution and even Oliver Cromwell. They have been trying to bring down and replace European heads of states for centuries.
Who funded the Norman Conquest?
You tell me.
“Funded” by the forward promise of the prospect of rape, pillage Land and Titles … with no turning back…..sounds familiar.
The two downtickers – care to explain why?
There is a shocking suggestion- more than a rumour – that certain batches of the vaccine have unusually large numbers of adverse reactions and deaths attributed to them .
The batches can be identified by numbers and their allocation tracked, so this would be easy to verify and check against vaccine injury/death stats.
An an interesting example of this,
A couple of weeks ago we had the headlines saying that they’d discovered why the AZ vaccine had caused all of the blood clotting problems — it was to do with the adenovirus vector, and not the spike protein. Given this new information, those clever boffins were working out how to get around the problem.
However, the problem of clot-related problems following the use (testing) of adenovirus vector vaccines has been known about for over 10 years. There is absolutely no way that the AZ team would not have been aware of this complication with their product.
Even though this was a known issue, clot problems weren’t properly included in the list of side effects/complications. What’s worse, when people started to suggest that there might be issues they were ridiculed because the vaccines ‘were safe and tested’ — it took the problem to become overwhelming for the authorities to accept that it was an issue.
I also note that the incidence of clot related disorders following vaccination with Pfizer is actually higher than seen after the AZ vaccine.
excellent analogy
Quality post and responses explaining in layman’s terms what is going on. Thank you.
This is the most easily digestible presentation I have seen on the subject to date, it’s a long-ish video but the lay description at 39 minutes onward lays out exactly what is happening. If you only have time to watch a few minutes, watch that part:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGXpt9TrF3E
Cheers!
Yes …and he at least knows what he is talking about – thank God!
Which is of course why he is ignored and smeared by the Gates Funded MSM.
Hang on, point of order.
Viruses don’t “evade vaccines“.
Viruses evade – or aren’t stopped by – our immune systems.
Let’s not use this deceptive language that implies that vaccines are somehow hanging around doing guard duty.
All they can do is to train our immune systems.
Or to mis-train them.
Given what we’re seeing, the conclusion you’d have to draw isn’t that virus are “evading vaccines”, but that repeated doses of the same vaccine against the original lab bioweapon strain are harming our immune systems‘ ability to recognise or target the latest variant.
That’s the obvious conclusion. The advanced class might ask whether they are damaging our ability to fight off other diseases as well.
Maginot line vaccines.
The virus blitzkrieged elsewhere
Ah, jolly good, I also coincidentally used a wartime analogy while you were writing that.
The Maginot line was built to fail.
So, by the looks of it, was the vaxx
As a vaxx – yes indeed!
Bingo.
> The advanced class might ask whether they are damaging our ability to fight off other diseases as well.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8546144/
Large-scale COVID-19 vaccinations are currently underway in many countries in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Here, we report, besides generation of neutralizing antibodies, consistent alterations in hemoglobin A1c, serum sodium and potassium levels, coagulation profiles, and renal functions in healthy volunteers after vaccination with an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. Similar changes had also been reported in COVID-19 patients, suggesting that vaccination mimicked an infection. Single-cell mRNA sequencing (scRNA-seq) of peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) before and 28 days after the first inoculation also revealed consistent alterations in gene expression of many different immune cell types. Reduction of CD8+ T cells and increase in classic monocyte contents were exemplary. Moreover, scRNA-seq revealed increased NF-κB signaling and reduced type I interferon responses, which were confirmed by biological assays and also had been reported to occur after SARS-CoV-2 infection with aggravating symptoms. Altogether, our study recommends additional caution when vaccinating people with pre-existing clinical conditions, including diabetes, electrolyte imbalances, renal dysfunction, and coagulation disorders.
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/abs/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712 A total of 566 pts, aged 28 to 97, M:F ratio 1:1 seen in a preventive cardiology practice had a previously scheduled PULS test drawn from 2 to 10 weeks following the 2nd mRNA COVID shot and was compared to the pt’s PULS test drawn 3 to 5 months previously pre-shot. Each vac pt’s PULS score and inflammatory marker changes were compared to their pre-vac PULS score, thus serving as their own control. There was no comparison made with unvaccinated patients or pts treated with other vaccines. Baseline IL-16 increased from 35+/-20 above the norm to 82 +/- 75 above the norm post-vac; sFas increased from 22+/- 15 above the norm to 46+/-24 above the norm post vac; HGF increased from 42+/-12 above the norm to 86+/-31 above the norm post vac. These changes resulted in an increase of the pre vac PULS score of predicted 11% 5 yr ACS risk to a post vac PULS score of a predicted 25% 5 yr ACS risk, based on data which has not been validated in this population. No statistical comparison was done in this observational study. In conclusion, the mRNA vacs numerically increase (but not statistically tested) the markers IL-16, Fas,… Read more »
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.03.21256520v1
The mRNA-based BNT162b2 vaccine from Pfizer/BioNTech was the first registered COVID-19 vaccine and has been shown to be up to 95% effective in preventing SARS-CoV-2 infections. Little is known about the broad effects of the new class of mRNA vaccines, especially whether they have combined effects on innate and adaptive immune responses. Here we confirmed that BNT162b2 vaccination of healthy individuals induced effective humoral and cellular immunity against several SARS-CoV-2 variants. Interestingly, however, the BNT162b2 vaccine also modulated the production of inflammatory cytokines by innate immune cells upon stimulation with both specific (SARS-CoV-2) and non-specific (viral, fungal and bacterial) stimuli. The response of innate immune cells to TLR4 and TLR7/8 ligands was lower after BNT162b2 vaccination, while fungi-induced cytokine responses were stronger. In conclusion, the mRNA BNT162b2 vaccine induces complex functional reprogramming of innate immune responses, which should be considered in the development and use of this new class of vaccines.
https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/10/2056/htm
Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS–CoV–2) has led to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID–19) pandemic, severely affecting public health and the global economy. Adaptive immunity plays a crucial role in fighting against SARS–CoV–2 infection and directly influences the clinical outcomes of patients. Clinical studies have indicated that patients with severe COVID–19 exhibit delayed and weak adaptive immune responses; however, the mechanism by which SARS–CoV–2 impedes adaptive immunity remains unclear. Here, by using an in vitro cell line, we report that the SARS–CoV–2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair, which is required for effective V(D)J recombination in adaptive immunity. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site. Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines.
I haven’t got a clue what you medicos are on about.
The vaccine screws you! Is that easier?
Did you see the UKColumn recent symposium where the German pathologist showed a number of slides from recent autopsies that also demonstrated endothelium inflammation and antibody tissue invasion? It would appear that his findings go some way to corroborate the AHA:Circulation paper by Gundry that you linked.
When this paper first emerged it caused a stir, and almost as to open the door to discrediting the paper, it sat for weeks with an ‘expression of concern’ notice on it. I see that they have now updated the paper, and instead of challenging its findings, they have simply made some corrections to sentence structure and typos. Hilarious.
impact of which is irreversible. they also played everyone through flipping between the use of relative and absolute changes. Notice how they use relative percentages to illustrate vaccine effectiveness as well as statistics on hospitalizations and deaths when the absolute numbers are in reality really low.
Definitely be ultra wary if you have dysfunctional clotting (which you may not be aware of)
Clotting can be in the capillary veins the tiniest in the body and so hardly detectable by the individual. – until it is too late.
“Altogether, our study recommends additional caution when vaccinating people with pre-existing clinical conditions, including diabetes, electrolyte imbalances, renal dysfunction, and coagulation disorders.”
As someone who fits into the above category this is useful info – thanks for posting.
Wouldn’t it be ironic if the virus was more intelligent than us and in fact attempting to keep us alive by constantly mutating into something more benign
At this point it would make more sense to petition the virus to save us from the government.
Having discussed this thought with the virus I am now informed that they are not the slightest bit interested in talking to Governments, Officials or the BBC. They intend to mutate again after Xmas and suggest we pick a name more keeping with it’s nature.
If there is a novel virus and it was GoF engineered at Fort Detrick which seems likely, then ‘they’ would have no control over it once it was in the wild. This makes their crime all the more despicable. Luckily they’re most likely hubristic fuckwits and no match for nature. I’m sure our species will survive this and as a bonus we’ll get to purge some of the most malignant elements of our civilisation, like the CIA, Big Pharma, financial elite etc.
Interesting. Can I ask you a few questions? Is the nose constantly seeking out new viruses to keep the immune system upto date? During a bad bout of flu the body increases and the deceased ones temperature periodically, I assume to assist with the elimination of unwanted viruses etc. Could other rogue cells, such as those that have mutated and could potentially cause cancer, be reduced during this period of temperature increase? I have noticed that my body, during an illness such as flu, reduces all natural pain relief while it is busy dealing with a virus, I have also noticed that when I begin to recover, the natural pain relief is restored and is I would say, more effective than it was previously. So my question is should we embrace flu and colds and treat them more as a blessing in disguise? My final question is about blocked noses. It seems obvious to me that if your nose has become blocked there must be a logical reason, my thoughts are, to stop any new infection entering until the existing problem has been dealt with. Does this make any sense? We are bombarded, especially at this time of the year,… Read more »
I think you have arrive at your destination. There is no other explanation.
Also notable that the ONS state they are limiting analysis to results from PCR with cycle thresholds of 30 or lower.
a tacit admission that PCR (PRC before freudian correction?) testing was nonsense?
Do you think it would be worth a FOI request to enquire WHY this was done?
They state it is because distinguishing between variants based on PCR is not an exact science (even at lower thresholds) and would be too unreliable at higher cycle thresholds.
So why have they used higher cycle thresholds from day one generating the hundreds of cases – cases of what??? that they have used to bolster their fear narrative??
What are the cycle thresholds…I heard they differed greatly at certain times of the year eg February compared to August. Why are they not consistent? Anyone would think there was a agenda at play here1🤔🤔
The cycle threshold data is a State Secret.
FOI requests reveal the NHS using 45 cycles of amplification in Trusts from which the information was requested ( above 25 cycles is worthless as an indication of anything).
So…NHS Trusts deliberately hiking up the cycle rate to produce more ‘false’ positives ? Surely not!
A Ct of 30 is still a useless filter. ~20 is credible
Fauci is on record saying “get a cycle thresholds of 35 or more, the chances of it being replication competent are minuscule…”
I believe its to psychological prepare us for more lockdowns. Climate (or lack of energy) lockdowns will follow in 2022.
Fauci- ‘hiding in plain sight”.Who is protecting him?
Is that the same PCR test that was manufactured by Drosten “for use in public health laboratory settings without having virus material available.”
The same!
PCR = massive global fraud.
I ask as someone who hasn’t been vaccinated and just wants natural immunity; is it better to get antibodies from an early strain or a later one?
I.e., if I wanted natural immunity, is it better to get delta (an earlier strain) or omicron (a later strain).
I would be very surprised if you haven’t already been exposed to the virus and your immune system has dealt with it, to quote an old teacher of mine, “quickly, quietly and fusslessly.”
I’ve definitely not yet been exposed.
How do you know….you might be COMPLETELY asymptomatic. Have you been testing twice a day since March 2020?
I seem to recall reading somewhere an estimate that circa 15% of folk will never get it. May be wrong as I’ve now read so so much on this bad cold…. its getting very tiresome!
“Asymptomatic” Ah yes… in this context a term invented by Whitty for an early Fear Mongering press conference, as I recall.
I thought I hadn’t but antibody test said otherwise.
Not an expert but I think an IGM test is the best thing to show whether you have had it. It lingers in the body for a long time. The nurse told me that some countries like China even require your IGM to fall below a certain number for entry. She even told me some vaccinated people keep coming every two weeks to check they have antibodies but they come out with none!! She also told me to keep your kids away. No, this was not an NHS nurse.
I took a Roche anti-sars test for both IGM and IGG after getting COVID.
Antibodies to the spike protein, not the virus.
How can you know that?
The spike protein is designed to by-pass and neutralise the defensive immune system and enter the cells in order to reproduce itself to be expressed as an Antigen on the cell surface to stimulate the immune system generated antibodies – and so on and on!
You may be mistaken. You can sign up to the ZOE COVID study (https://covid.joinzoe.com) and then you are eligible to book an antibody test (https://www.gov.uk/register-coronavirus-antibody-test).
I don’t think you can go shopping for your preferred C1984 scariant.
I suppose Omicron would be better, I also suppose you’d be more likely to catch it now, at least in the UK/London- just take a bus or the tube.
But in reality, why do you ask?
It’s not as if you had a choice.
I’ve been tubing and bussing in London for the last few weeks. I still haven’t had this blasted thing. An antibody test this week confirms that. It’s a very difficult thing to catch, even if you’re not trying to avoid it.
Richmond Borough, for instance, managed to find 598 people to test positive on Wednesday last, and numbers are back on the way down already. That is about 0.7% of the middle class over-tested over-testing panicked population of the borough. where is this ‘terrible wave’? Because it isn’t in London.
This! I’m in “leafy”, affluent Shiresville and every other middle class “skinnicaffelattimociatosoyablend” arse has got it, as has their ridiculously named offspring. I’m aware the following is merely apocryphal but all my mates in W3, W6, W12 are now no longer worried about it, as they know no-one with it. My mates in London are mostly trade with a few TV execs thrown in for colour and diversity. The shutters are falling.
Some people are known to be naturally immune.
Who knows?
Get boostered. Get omicron. Yay.
I wonder if the narrative pivot will be that the vaccine protects you from getting the delta variant, which is more deadly, and therefore the vaccines are beneficial. Health officials would have to embrace the omicron variant as a good thing, which I doubt they can do.
All convoluted, obscurantist BS!
But it would preclude the development of “new and improved” versions of the vaccine, to be sold quartely. It would not sit well with the general public and would certainly be very bad for business.
And the war criminal that is Tony Blair is calling the unvaccinated idiots! 😂😂😂
Probably at the behest of his paymaster Gates.
Soros has a stake in him! (sic)
He found a “nice job” for Blair’s man D.Miliband
If Tony Blair is on your team, you’re on the wrong team.
Tony Blair is to the Gates-Davos axis what Italy was to the Nazi-Japanese axis in WWII: at best neither helpful nor unhelpful, at worst, a liability.
What an awful thing to say about Italy.
That’ll make the vaccinated think, he’s hated by most people
Yep. Here’s another thing I don’t get. People hate Boris Johnson but cannot wait to do what he tells them. They’d sleep naked in the snow if he told them it would stop the spread!
Weird, isn’t it? And it includes many on the left who prior to this shitshow wouldn’t have believed anything Johnson said without checking it carefully.
It is astonishing that in order to find a way to criticise Johnson the left have had to accuse him of not going far enough.
The Money/Power/Greed Drug, “Globalism” brings them all together!
I might try that line on my covidian rellies over christmas – see what they make of it
The following was put to me the other day by a painter, walls not landscapes. “Did we ever trust politicians or big pharma? No? So why the flying f*ck do we believe them now?”
An answer came there none.
“Common Sense” was murdered by Wokism … and it was a ‘conspiracy”!
Blair is into the ‘Great Reset’ up to his scraggy neck and “Demon (bloodshot0 Eyes” ( Saatchi) and has been since 1997.
Still hoping for a place at the Top Table!
“In other words, it is a measure of how well Omicron evades the vaccines compared to Delta.”
Weird. It’s as if the virus mutates to evade the defences build up by your immune system, natural or jab induced.
It’s almost like that other thing that happened every year before Convid called ….. The Flu!
No, it’s not like this. That a statement straight out of the COVID-panic-playbook. Viruses don’t mutate at all. They are being mutated by an imperfect, cellular reproduction apparatus (or parts there of). Should such a mutated virus happen to be better adapted to its environment, it’ll probably start to crowd out less well adapted virus variants and will eventually become dominant. All of this is a result of essentially ‘mechanical’ chemical processes and does not involve any directed activity.
The Covid Vax will kill off our immune system – wait and see!
Compare this headline with the terror tactics in the Daily Mail today.
Thank God for the Daily Sceptic and all who sail in her.
Ooh! I think you might have accidentally hit on something here.
If we can get Toby to change the name of the Daily Sceptic to ‘Sceptic McScepticface’, then possibly many of the Noddy’s that thought such a thing funny would be tempted to read it and might accidentally learn the difference between truth and lies?
“The fact that the triple-vaccinated are much more likely to be infected with Omicron than the double-vaccinated confirms this vaccine evading ability.”
That avoids the confounding factor. Triple vaccinated people have recently attended a vaccination centre with bad ventilation. Other people haven’t.
Guess where Omicron is ‘in the air’?
I have at least one data point that strongly suggests this. Vaccinated last week. Off with Omicron today. Sick for Christmas.
I suspect quite a few people will be in the same boat.
Possibly a factor. However (anecdotally) the surprising number of triple “jabbed” labrats that I know of are all getting positive tests around two to three weeks after their most recent dose. That’s too long a period for the jabbatoir to have been the source. So it has to be down to the “vaccines” enhancing susceptibility.
Not if the theory of delayed symptoms from being jabbed is correct!
We had a big thing about the statistical effects of this on medical effectiveness statistics.
I’m shaking my head as I read you got vaccinated last week.
What are you doing?….
I stayed away, despite my phone getting spam texts from the NHS.
I’ll go when the dust has settled, both figuratively and literally – and the data shows there’s a benefit.
you did read the article above?
Ah, ok, not you.
The only one anyone should contemplate will be the Valneva one. Proper vaccine, properly tested, not rushed (unlike Sputnik and Sinovac).
Why not just ask Fauci for the antidote to the ‘virus’ he and his friends created with ‘gain of function’ research in Wuhan ?
Never then?
You’re wrong here. The analysis is of people who’ve tested positive, it’s then looked at which variant they have. So, both the vaxxed & unvaxxed have visited a test centre. The unvaxxed accounted for 30% of the ‘cases’.
The Drosten/ CCP devised PCR test is a total global fraud, spread by Tedros and the Gates dominated and funded WHO ( see Reiner Fuellmich’s extensive research).
Where does that leave you?
It’s hard to take you seriously when you pull something like that out of your arse.
Bad ventilation? Desperate stuff. You’re clinging on to this piss-weak narrative by the very last shredded shards of your fingernails now.
Do you suppose that you will suffer a psychological break when your weltanschauung finally implodes? It seems as if you will. I suppose we shall find out soon enough, this bitch is ready to blow.
Omicron is probably “in the air” everywhere.
If there is an increased prevalence amongst the just “boosted” it’s overwhelmingly; more likely to be as a result of the initial drop in immune response. They are as likely to have been exposed to the virus in the supermarket or on the bus as at the “vaccination” centre.
Omicron is probably “in the air” everywhere.
And it has likely been in this way for all other variants. Which implies that each and everyone of these chicken littles always crying for more restriction has probably long had that, probably multiple times with decreasing severity, and most likely, didn’t even notice. Another cold, shrug, BUT COVID WILL KILL US ALL, UNLESS … !!!
That’s one of the most maddening aspects of the situation: These people are fighting an always losing battle of their own imagination while they’ve long since won the real one. The experts obviously know this is well. Otherwise, they wouldn’t dare to come up with such ludicrous ideas as hospitalty curfews or masks to be worn while walking through a crowded room one spent hours sitting in unmasked.
“Evading ability” Is that why it avoids those sitting down in Restaurants with no mask on but violently attacks those who stand up… ‘maskless’ ?
I have posted this same information several times on MSM comments today. It has been assiduously deleted.
I was thinking about Eugyppius recent point about the origins of the virus. Has the Omicron variant has been deliberately engineered and released to patch up the damage done by the vaccines. In other words, was it engineered to preferentially infect the vaccinated with the mildest but most infectious possible form of Sars-Covid-2 to allow their immune systems to properly gain immunity from the a real copy of the virus. In other words, allow the vaccinated population to gain immunity to all aspects of the virus, not just to the Alpha variant spike protein which is no longer present in the virus population.
I presume that Governments around the world will not be dissuaded from pumping more and more boosters on those they can persuade or blackmail. Therefore the likelihood of a Geert vanden Bossche style breakout of a really nasty variant becomes ever greater. To try and mitigate the business risk, the pharmaceutical industry would need to prevent such a virus killing its target market for further booster shots. Dead people don’t pay taxes and can’t be made to take more boosters.
I’m struggling to come up with convincing reasoning for the release of “moronic” from a lab. Why would the villains want to end the Covid scam now? I suppose it could be fear that they will all soon meet lady guillotine, but it seems unlikely. Could a rogue state (rogue from Gates, Schwab etc) have developed this to end the scam? It doesn’t make sense.
There’s a few villain groups…
They all treat us like cattle but fight amongst themselves.
I am not so sure about this: if OAS is an issue, how will omicron help the vaccinated?
Maybe it will help some of them a bit…better than nothing type approach.
How does the test for Omnicron work? If someone does a lateral flow test, or PCR, are some samples then sent to a special lab? Or are there many labs that can perform this function? Which ones? How did the test become live almost the moment the variant was announced? Are the tests actually picking up on the ingredients in the jab? Seems like the more recent you’ve had an injection the more likely positive, and the 3rd or booster shots are more recent. This whole business is so murky, there is a huge gap in information. How does Covid actually kill? I overheard someone when out shopping saying….yeah I had it, had the mother of all headaches – the symptoms seem to be almost endless and fit with common ailments we all get from time to time!
According to Tom Cowan, it’s akin to a team of economists, who define an economy’s success by the number of millionaires it produces, suddenly defining down the definition of millionaire to one who earns $500k. That’s pretty much the long and the short of it.
So…what are your conclusions?
How they find Omicron for the layperson: non-specific symptoms —> “must be Covid” —> negative PCR test —> it’s Omicron.
We need to be careful we don’t get lured into how the main stream media manipulate numbers to serve a point. For example I imagine there is 4.5x as many Tripple Jabbed as there are unvaccinated, so therefore it’s just representative of the population coverage rather than anyone being more prone to infection.
This booster campaign makes zero sense, all that matters in hospitalisation and death. Half the population have been scared into jabbing up when in fact there original double jab protection was probably more than sufficient to serve the same purpose.
Read it again, this is a measure of which variant the positive have. It’s not dependent on the number of people infected but the proportion of which variant the positive have. The data table in the story gives you the detail. 30% were unvaccinated but that isn’t relevant to the numbers testing positive for omicron.
Yes, that was my first thought, especially as the headline is ‘More than four times more likely’. It should read ‘More than three times more likely’ or ‘More than four times as likely. A mistake the MSM usually make.
But, looking at the table, it says: of a sample of 536 unvaccinated, 14 had a positive result for Omicron. A reasonable conclusion, therefore, is that being unvaccinated seems to reduce the likelihood of having a positive result for Omicron (ie catching Omicron).
I’m still cautious about drawing a wider conclusion, maybe I’m too quick to assume a causal link, but for the smallish sample size, it seems to be true.
If Dr. Jones had any professional integrity, the headline should have read “Triple-Vaccinated n Times More Likely To Test Positive For Omicron Versus Other Variants Compared To Unvaccinated”.
But of course, that could not be as easily misinterpreted toward the intended false conclusion… and it would probably attract fewer clicks, too. So screw it, use the most misleading headline and enjoy all the sensation hungry readers piling in – if MSM can do it, so can the “sceptics”.
As Will said, ‘Note that this is the probability of an infection being Omicron given a person is infected, so it doesn’t tell us how likely a person is to test positive in the first place. This means it doesn’t tell us that the vaccines are making things worse overall, only that they are making it much more likely that a vaccinated person is infected with Omicron than another variant. In other words, it is a measure of how well Omicron evades the vaccines compared to Delta. The fact that the triple-vaccinated are much more likely to be infected with Omicron than the double-vaccinated confirms this vaccine evading ability.’
Tt seems that too many posters on here have been totally seduced by the MSM’s manipulation of lies and spend their time and mental energy struggling to make sense of them.
News: they are just lies …move on!
Perhaps vaccine passports are a good idea after all.
All the numb nuts that trusted the government need to be kept away from the healthy unvaxxed.
This has been apparent for quite some time now, along with other ‘vaccine’ induced ailments and massively compromised immune systems. When is the penny going to drop with some?
And this is why those who planned, legitimised, and who are knowingly complicit in these crimes against humanity, must be tried in a court of law, and where appropriate face the ultimate justice. Then hopefully they can face and explain their actions to the Almighty.
The same ONS report: https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/conditionsanddiseases/adhocs/14107coronaviruscovid19infectionsurveyukcharacteristicsrelatedtohavinganomicroncompatibleresultinthosewhotestpositiveforcovid19 estimates the likelihood by age of someone having the omicron variant. The hotspot is in the 20’s/30’s, these are the people who most recently got their booster. It also upticks with age, the people who got their boosters some time ago.
One of my big concerns for months has been informed consent with kids, will the kids get told this.
It’s also pertinent that the 1 dose crowd are higher than the unvaccinated & the 2 dose crowd higher than the 1 dose crowd. Dots that just need joining!
I’ve decided it’s best not to get involved
Hi Will. I wrote about this here
https://nakedemperor.substack.com/p/the-new-normal-pandemics-of-the-vaccinated
A good summary: “More shockingly, when you delve into the data itself, THE MORE YOU VACCINATE, the more likely you are to get Omicron.”. Thank you.
so your chances of getting covid match your scepticism? ie the people getting boosted are also far more likely to get tested at the slightest hint of a sniffle.
I have surmised that the jabbed are testing more frequently. Do we know that this is the case ?
Who cares?
Stop testing and the scamdemic collapses.
The objective is forced mass vaccination – not the virus.
Truth: 1+1+1 = 3. Covidianism: 1+1+1 = 111.
Well, well, well this is all a bit of a dilemma for “the science”. What is the collective noun for a catch 22?
A constipation of bulls.
Bulls’ what?
A viciousness of circles?
Steady on there…
Perhaps all this graph really shows is that the more neurotic a person is about covid, the more likely they are to be tested for it.
I am double jabbed (did so reluctantly back in the summer). I wouldn’t get a test even if I had symptoms. I suspect those with no jabs at all are similarly minded. Those with one jab are probably younger people who also can’t be bothered.
So it would be useful to know what numbers of each category have been tested. If it is 10 people who are not vaxxed vs 500,000 who are, is this data useful? Also, being more highly vaxxed might indicate other life factors, e.g. how healthy, how likely to visit hospital, how likely to have a public facing job, etc.
I suspect that its the vaccinated who are propagating all the new variants – as Robert Malone observed – you cannot vaccinate your way out of this pandemic – by jabbing everyone multiple times what you establish is a arms race between the vaccines and mutating viruses that are endlessly changing to get through vaccine barrier.
Seasonal respiratory viruses have always mutated in the past to overcome natural immunity ready for when they come round again the following winter season to infect us all once more (colds flus etc) – this is what winter viruses have always done to survive – but I speculate that this endless jabbing is just stimulating endless virus mutations.
This doesn’t end until we stop jabbing everyone and get back to what we have always done in the past – protect the vulnerable while letting everyone else get on with their lives and obtain natural immunity.
‘This doesn’t end until we stop jabbing and get back to what we have always done in the past’
This works just perfectly for the pharma giants, an andless cycle of jabs and disease, heaven.
…and it serves the Great Reset.
There are several heads to this Hydra.
The vaccine has its own agenda – the virus is just the means to that end.
Until this is understood, no progress among the sheepie can ever be made. Round and round we go!
Well, repeatedly jabbing for flu hasn’t worked. We still have tens of thousands of excess flu deaths and an NHS ‘at breaking point’ every winter.