Sajid Javid Says The Unvaccinated Are Having a “Damaging Impact” On Society

In an interview with Sky News, Sajid Javid criticised the unvaccinated for “the damage they are doing to society” by not coming forward for the jab. The Health Secretary also mentioned that further Covid restrictions, including the imposition of a post-Christmas lockdown, are not off the cards, and that the Government “will do what is necessary”. Sky News has more.

When pushed on reports that ministers are drawing up plans to introduce more restrictions after Christmas, the Health Secretary told Sky News‘ Trevor Phillips on Sunday programme the Government will “do what is necessary”, but that any change must be “backed up by the data”.

He added that ministers are discussing the latest Covid data “almost on an hourly basis” with scientific advisers.

“We’ve shown in the past as Government in dealing with this pandemic that we will do what is necessary but it’s got to be backed up by the data,” the Health Secretary said when probed on any possible plans.

“We are watching the data and discussing it with our scientists and our best advisers almost on an hourly basis. And we will monitor that very carefully. We will keep the situation under review.”

Javid then reiterated that various factors, including vaccinations for Covid, mean “the situation today in terms of our defences is very different”.

He also confirmed that Parliament would be recalled if the Government believed introducing further restrictions was necessary adding that “it would have to be a decision for Parliament”…

The Health Secretary also told Sky News that 10% of the population (more than five million people) have still not taken up the offer of the vaccine, and that around nine out of 10 of those needing the most hospital care were unvaccinated.

“They must really think about the damage they are doing to society… they take up hospital beds that could have been used for someone with maybe a heart problem, or maybe someone who is waiting for elective surgery,” Javid said.

“But instead of protecting themselves and protecting the community they choose not to get vaccinated. They are really having a damaging impact and I just can’t stress enough, please do come forward and get vaccinated.”

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Mark
4 years ago

So Javid’s an arsehole as well.

Is there anyone at cabinet/leadership level who is not an utter arse on covid?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Can we ask the Yanks if we can borrow Ron DeSantis for a while?

dismalswamp
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

We need to clone him

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Well there was, But Frost has resigned of course!

AloysiusCocksnaffle
AloysiusCocksnaffle
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I just want a simple list of what’s wrong – without technical detail and without what some people would regard as conspiracy theories. I realise that some of these numbered points cover more than one thing: 1. Asymptomatic transmission isn’t a thing 2. Absence of informed consent 3. Average age of death – 82 yrs  4. Children don’t die of covid 5. Negative vaccine efficacy – you’re more likely to catch it  6. Lockdowns – mental health, educational and developmental damage, domestic abuse 7. Lockdowns – cases have begun to fall before lockdowns implemented 8. Lockdowns – what about countries without them  9. Lockdowns – economic damage 10. Civil liberties – body autonomy; privacy; free unless breaking the law   11. Civil liberties – suppression of free speech and dissent  12. Following the science 13. Vaccine nomenclature 14. Vaccine development – trials; timetable; safety and efficacy data  15. Vaccine efficacy – declining over time; variants 16. Vaccine safety  17. Vaccine – follow the money; immunity for pharmaceutical companies 18. Vaccine passports – you can only travel / enter this place if you’ve had the vaccine  19. Vaccine mandates – you are required to have this vaccine in order to keep your job… Read more »

AloysiusCocksnaffle
AloysiusCocksnaffle
4 years ago

Or … I just want a simple list of what’s wrong – without technical detail and without what some people would regard as conspiracy theories. No more than 20 words per point and each one either undisputed or relatively easy to demonstrate. I realise that some of these numbered points cover more than one thing:  1.     Asymptomatic transmission isn’t a thing 2.     Absence of informed consent 3.     Average age of death – 82 yrs  4.     Excess deaths – quantitatively not beyond relatively common ranges 5.     Children don’t die of covid 6.     Negative vaccine efficacy – you’re more likely to catch it and transmit it if you’re three months post-vaccine than if you’re unvaccinated 7.     Lockdowns – mental health, educational and developmental damage, domestic abuse 8.     Lockdowns – cases have begun to fall before lockdowns implemented 9.     Lockdowns – what about countries without them  10.  Lockdowns – economic damage 11.  Lockdowns – undiagnosed and untreated illnesses 12.  Lockdowns and vaccines – no cost/benefit analysis conducted 13.  Civil liberties – body autonomy; privacy; free unless breaking the law   14.  Civil liberties – suppression of free speech and dissent  15.  Following the science – refusal to welcome critical enquiry 16.  Changing narratives, moving goalposts   17.  Vaccine nomenclature 18.  Vaccine development – trials; timetable; safety and efficacy data  19.  Vaccine efficacy – declining… Read more »

mishmash
4 years ago

“without what some people would regard as conspiracy theories.”

How can I paint a house without paint?

PartyTime
4 years ago

Biontech vax developer and their staff are unvaccinated on “safety grounds”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsiOJvUb184 (interview with German MSM TV, in German) – doesn’t that say everything?

happychappy
4 years ago
Reply to  PartyTime

Been removed by the uploader…

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  PartyTime

Same fake news interview from December 2020, I guess?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  PartyTime

The UK “Elite” are not vaccinated either.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Would you produce a comprehensive summary for us to use as a pamphlet/aide-memoire?

You can self-publish booklets/major treatises on http://www.lulu.com.

I’m collating my blog-posts, poetry, and occasional outbursts for pseudonymous booklets for distribution.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

26 – rigged vitamin D trials for the government: completely different to what the Orthomolecular Medicine News Service (representing nutritional doctors) recommended.

RickH
4 years ago

Also – contravention of accepted civilised ethical standards following Nuremberg etc.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago

You missed Natural Immunity far superior, known to last at least a year possibly longer but time needs to pass to have evidence. But … it generally lasts many years as per SARS-1

JeremyP99
4 years ago

1. Asymptomatic transmission isn’t a thing”

It is for the already vaxxed…

https://palexander.substack.com/p/33-studies-that-show-that-the-vaccine

5) From Wisconsin, Riemersma et al. reported that vaccinated individuals who get infected with the Delta variant can transmit SARS-CoV-2 to others. They found an elevated viral load in the unvaccinated and vaccinated symptomatic persons (68% and 69% respectively, 158/232 and 156/225). Moreover, in the asymptomatic persons, they uncovered elevated viral loads (29% and 82% respectively) in the unvaccinated and the vaccinated respectively. This suggests that the vaccinated can be infected, harbor, cultivate, and transmit the virus readily and unknowingly.”

“9) Reporting on a nosocomial hospital outbreak in Finland, Hetemäli et al. observed that “both symptomatic and asymptomatic infections were found among vaccinated health care workers, and secondary transmission occurred from those with symptomatic infections despite use of personal protective equipment.” “

Any number of other studies agree… post following with a link to my mediafire cache of Covid medical papers and articles, started last February

TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Last two words are not needed.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’m a bit surprised that you express surprise – his track record is entirely consistent in the arsehole stakes.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

You might (reasonably) have inferred surprise. I did not express it directly, or intend it.

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

..

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

He channels his ‘Dr. Evil’ quite convincingly.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

He always reminds me of one of those little green men thing in the childrens toy dispenser in Toy story

Bill Grates
Bill Grates
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

You mean you didn’t know that ?

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

No …possibly with the exception of Lord Frost, who can no longer stomach this stuff.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

You meant to say; “Is there anyone at cabinet/leadership level who is not an utter arse on covid?”

No there isn’t because they are not leaders, they are power mad bureaucrats. Maybe let Frost off.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

No

lorrinet
lorrinet
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

He’s a shameless liar too. They’re obviously failing to reach the number of deaths needed to make their ‘Great Reset’ work.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The thing damaging society, isn’t the unvaccinated, or even covid, it is politicians, mostly TY’s eton buddy Bozo depifffel johson.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The unvaccinated are damaging their agenda!

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

TY didn’t go to Eton.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

And with 14 million under 18s, this is around 10 million adults, or 1 in 5.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Encouraging news on “vaccine” takeup – seems only 32.4m out of 47.7m eligible (over 12) in England were cowardly or gullible enough to take the experimental novel treatment, and there has been significant dropoff for the second jab and, especially, for the “booster” nonsense.

That means fewer long term medical complications from the novel treatments to deal with, and suggests the overall population are not quite as cowardly/gullible as I’d feared.

And hopefully, as more and more people see that the treatment they were endlessly propagandised about neither solved the supposed problems nor came without costs, there will be a general loss of credibility for health “experts” touting pharma products.

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I had the first two but never again. I Had pain in my neck so bad I couldn’t get out of bed for three days and then for 2 months after I had random shooting pains in my legs and I still have unexplained chest pain. I was vaccinated 6 months ago

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Once bitten, twice shy…

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Exactly. I knew when the astrazenica needle came out I was in for trouble

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Annoyingly I have all those and no jabs.

Sitting for 2 years has had a terrible effect on my health it would seem.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

You’re not wrong! Many little health niggles have cropped up for me over the months (but still no colds or flu!) I put a lot of it down to stress. Look after your physical and mental health everyone!

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

It’s hard not to get stressed when so much government interference is affecting people so severely. Whilst some have done well cash wise no one has escaped the effect on their daily life and for some it has been too much to bare and they have taken their own life.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

This is no accidental ‘side -effect’ it is part of the plan!

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Lockdowns are in part designed to make people insecure isolated frightened and ill!

sam s.j.
sam s.j.
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

me too is the stress! glad to find out so many like me and didnt fall for it and so glad too so many wont get booster and wish hadnt got any

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

You know what that is exactly what I was thinking and as my sample size is one I can’t be sure of anything 100%

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The realistic conclusion regarding the injections is that we, the non injected, are the ones saving rNHS.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Still the Media and the Cabinet pump out their vile lies and Covid hysteria!

GBNews: ONS stats man calls out Nadine Doris for totally misrepresenting the number of un-vaccinated in hospitals to stir up anti the un-vaccinated hysteria.

mRNA inventor Robert Malone says stop the vaccine roll out now!

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

A third of the population! This is what threatens them.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Plus millions more who have only had one dose – many having experienced severe adverse reactions and millions more having had two and who will refuse the booster .

Surely people must realise that the whole purpose of the Global Covid Scam is to force mass vaccination of the planet with Gene Therapy mRNA in accordance with Gates’ vaccination Master Plan?

Is this even a secret?

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

If true that is great news!

Jo
Jo
4 years ago

The irony – one of a clutch doing the most damage to society, certainly in our lifetimes.

Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

And note how the narrative has adjusted – first you were selfish because you could infect other people – now you are selfish because you could take a hospital bed.
Sportspeople = selfish. Fat people = selfish. Smokers and drinkers = selfish. Drivers = selfish. Anyone who might get ill of anything = selfish. Being alive = selfish.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Voting = politicians

Mark76
Mark76
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

How are sports people selfish?

Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark76

They’re not. But there are a lot of rugby/horseriding/skiing injuries etc.
I was extremely selfish 12 years ago when I was walking my dog and slipped on ice and broke my arm. I feel so guilty now, I was overwhelming the NHS. If I’d just stayed at home it wouldn’t have happened.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

My niece, aged three, fell out of bed and broke her leg, the selfish little bitch.

Mark76
Mark76
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Or not owned a dog 😀

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark76

Everyone has a dog since covid. At least that is how it seems

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

Motorcyclists, anyone with an STD,

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Or motorcyclists with an STD (who should be ashamed of themselves).

porgycorgy
porgycorgy
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

This one had us rolling around 🙂

Bartleby
Bartleby
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Surely that’s what the helmet protects against?

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

People who take the vaccines and, as a result end up occupying a hospital bed, are selfish.

Dave
Dave
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

So my cousins husband, a fit thirty something who is now blind and in a wheelchair as a result of the vaccine must be really selfish

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo

A mountain of ever-changing BS and lies!

We see now why Johnson was chosen to front this Evil Cabal !

Zionist
Zionist
4 years ago

Yet another reason not to get my booster.

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  Zionist

My doctor contacted me about booking my booster and just to shut them up I let them book it but didn’t go. They have rung me twice this weekend which surely must be a miracle for a doctor’s surgery in 2020!

A Sceptic
A Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Yesterday I got a letter and an email telling me I need to get my second and third jabs. I had one AZ, never again, am still suffering the consequences 9 months on. Amazing they can’t arrange a prescription, give me my blood test results or arrange anything else promptly but can harass me about jabs.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  A Sceptic

NHSS now no longer interested in your ‘health’ – just acting as Globalist Covid Jab Agents

Mark76
Mark76
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

If they’re calling from 2020 it is, indeed, a miracle. Time travel is real! 😀

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark76

Wow it’s more magical than I ever imagined 😹

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark76

Call was from the NHS’s Delorean ambulance.

attilathemum
4 years ago
Reply to  John Dee

Great Scott!

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

I have had about a dozen letters about boosters and flu jabs. I have already told them I have not having the flu, but that doesn’t stop them badgering me.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Get yourself an answerphone – you can then monitor your incoming calls – I wouldn’t be without one now.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

I got a text from my GP surgery earlier in the week ago inviting me to book a ‘booster’. Presumably they don’t bother to check their records or they’d have seen that I have refused all their previous ‘offers’ and asked them not to contact me again (which, unlike NHS England, they have done until now).

Sent them a message via their online contact system reiterating that I am not interested in the Clotshots and please don’t contact me about it again. A few days later I received another text inviting me to book a ‘booster’. FFS!

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Wife and I had lots of texts and letter invites for the jabs. All ignored. Eventually went quiet for a while, until we then were informed that we were eligible for vax cert (iirc) and booster!

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Let’s not forget this pestering is all done using taxpayers’ (= your) money.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

The £30 they get per jab is our money too!

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

Fifteen quid actually.

OliveTrees
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Instead of ignoring them, why not ask them some question, but make the questions a kind of “word salad” so the reader has difficulty understanding them? Would probably be time consuming for them. Just an idea 😉

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Or even 2021.

John Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

They don’t get their payment unless you get the jab.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Just think – they could have been treating one of their long suffering patients who needs urgent attention instead of touting for their £30 per Covid jab

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

but they are NHS heroes of course.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  twinkytwonk

Amazing how much a GP will risk your health to get 30 quid of taxpayer’s money.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Zionist

They’re showing their desperation now. Hold the line people. When slander becomes the tool of the abuser, the debate is lost!

Liberty4UK
Liberty4UK
4 years ago
Reply to  Zionist

“The eldest Oyster looked at him,
   But never a word he said;
The eldest Oyster winked his eye,
   And shook his heavy head—
Meaning to say he did not choose
   To leave the oyster-bed.”

isobar
4 years ago

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black! Leaving aside his snide and unwarranted comment about the unvaccinated, what about the catastrophic damage this government has caused to society through its hideous lockdown strategies? And we thought that hand on cock was bad!

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Well they need a scapegoat.

And the YouGov poll showing no appetite for lockdowns means they need to direct public anger away from them and towards someone else. So it’s the healthy, I mean the unjabbed.

Deep down they envy us.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Yes, I do believe there is an element of envy among some vaxxed. Some people were and are still happy to be vaxxed, so good for them. Some people were reluctant and did it for a variety of reasons, travel, good citizen, ‘freedom’. Of the latter group, some will say they’re done and join us, but some will be petulant and pissed off with themselves, but rather than have it out with themselves for being pushed into doing something they didn’t really want to do, they find it easier to blame those of us who stood our ground.

Fortyman
Fortyman
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

I had AZ for the first two in the naive trust that it was for the public good. I have refused the many attempts to have the booster and wish that I had not been suckered into the first two. Kipling’s “.. If you can keep your head while all around you are losing theirs…” seems particularly appropriate.

AllieT
AllieT
4 years ago
Reply to  Fortyman

Same here!

tarfu
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Another reason you have missed comes under the heading ‘domestic harmony’ or ‘domestic harassment’. Living in a divided household with a totally brainwashed BBC-viewing Daily Mail reading partner is draining

Dermot McClatchey
4 years ago
Reply to  tarfu

Living in a divided household with a totally brainwashed BBC-viewing Daily Mail reading partner is draining

It certainly is. Keep the faith.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  tarfu

hey I read the Daily mail. I embrace its insanely schizophrenic coverage, and the rising fury of the comments pages.

It’s a good pulse check on where broader society is at: totally mental.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  tarfu

That must be very difficult for you – thank goodness I don’t have that problem because I don’t know how that would pan out!

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

He, along with all politicians across the western world, know full well the catastropic damage they have inflicted, which is why they need a scapegoat, the unvaxxed.

Is there no human rights lawyer anywhere with the cajones to go after these scum for hate speech, as that is most certainly what it is. Particularly the heinous implying that some people are more deserving of treatment than others. I have always believed that treatment should be based on medical need, not some individual’s views of who is morally deserving.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Why doesn’t everyone contact Bromsgrove Police and report Javid for Hate Crime?

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!

My thoughts, exactly.

djmo
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

It’s the pot calling this kettle black.

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isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  djmo

I like that! Demonstrators brewed up a storm in London yesterday!

Squire Western
Squire Western
4 years ago

I’ve had my doubts about the wisdom of allowing a Muslim in the cabinet for a long while, and Javid has confirmed my prejudice against this. He is another lockdown fascist, along with Whitty and SAGE.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

So you also have doubts about white Christians being in the cabinet then?

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

Squire Western never mentioned race, so it’s a bit odd that you use the phrase ‘white Christian’. FYI the majority demographic of the Anglican Church is black and female in her mid-thirties. Muslims can be any colour, though reading the most respected hadith, it should be noted that the prophet of Islam is described as being white and the owner of black slaves. I’m not trying to start a thread on another topic, but the sooner we stop equating the ‘religion of peace’ with ethnicity the better.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

It’s not odd.

He states that Jabbit’s stance on Covid justifies his own prejudice against Muslims being in the cabinet. I fail to see any link whatsoever…unless you’d care to explain?

He then goes on to mention Whitty and SAGE sharing the same views. I assume Whitty and SAGE are mostly white Christians so I was asking for clarity, based on his own logic, that he also has doubts about the wisdom of allowing white Christians in the cabinet.

I could equally have said “middle class academics” as it was designed to highlight the ludicrousness of the comment, not to get bogged down in pedantic tittle tattle about what is classed as race, religion…yawn.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

No, you conflated religious affiliation with race. Squire Western is entitled to view Islam as incompatible with Western liberal democracy and you could debate him on that. What you can’t do is imply a racist motive to his criticism. Islam is an ideology not a racial characteristic and it is not pedantic to point that out. So what is the Islamic position on democracy? Here’s a link to an Islamic web-site which addresses that very question. In view of the answer given, I would say that Squire Western’s observation is worth debating. https://islamqa.info/en/answers/98134/concept-of-democracy-in-islam

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Oh dear.

Read his comment again and this time take your hobby horse out of the equation.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

You have all the characteristics of a politician: you misrepresent what someone else says and attack a view they have never advanced (straw-manning); then when it’s pointed out to you, you double down on that attack and compound it by having a go at the person who pointed out your attempt to strawman. I have reread Squire Western’s comment and I still fail to see a single reference to race. Certainly he’s critical of Islam, so I guess it’s that which bothers you, but rather than mount a defence of Islam, which you know will be as solid as the Newcastle United back four, you play the racist card. I don’t know Squire Western or his views on race because to date he hasn’t (to my knowledge) expressed them. And yes, facts are my hobby horse, so I think I’ll retain them, but thanks for the suggestion.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

And you have all the characteristics of a pedant.

Across Europe and the Americas, the “leaders” and “experts” imposing Covid-related lunacy are distinctly non-Muslim and, in most cases, white Christians.

We then have a Muslim expressing the same views, but according to the poster, this is because, and only because, he is Muslim.

If you cannot see both the divisiveness and utter lack of logic in this argument then there’s no helping you.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

On 31 August 2021, Indonesia, the largest Muslim country in the world reported that it had given 100,000,000 ‘vaccine’ doses, so the drug pushers aren’t exclusively white or Christian are they? And from my experience I would suggest Christians in Europe are in the minority.

But in any case, why ‘white’ Christians? Squire Western never referred to Javid’s skin colour – his reservation, from what I read, referred to Javid’s religious affiliation which (and this is supported by the Islamic web site I directed you to) does not view democracy as Islamic. I guess you think that’s pedantic – I rather think its something that needs to be addressed. People opposed to democracy, whatever their colour, ought not to be in Government, don’t you agree?

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Indonesia is not in Europe or the Americas and at no point did I say “exclusively”.

As for your last comment, yes I agree, but neither you or the OP have clarified why Jabbit’s religion has anything to do with his Covid-lunacy, especially as the whole narrative is being driven by a non-Muslim demographic.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

Oh thanks for the geography lesson, though why you want to exclude the largest Muslim country in the world in your defence of Islam is beyond me.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

Perhaps this will help, though you ought to have read it if you followed the link I provided: “Democracy is a system that is contrary to Islam, because it gives the power of legislation to the people or to those who represent them (such as members of Parliament).”

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Dear oh dear.

Indonesia is a democracy. Hardcore Islamist parties are not very well supported either. Any other great arguments?

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

Indonesia is a multi-ethnic Muslim majority country that has drifted in and out of democracy, but if you disagree and wish to argue that it is a bastion of uninterrupted liberal democracy, go ahead, make my day. I do admire your dogged attempt to steer this discussion away from the fact that you have conflated Islam with ethnicity, though. In that you have much in common with Boris Johnson and his very successful attempt (so it seems) to move the public’s attention away from the Downing Street Christmas Party. Why don’t you just admit that in your rush to virtue signal, you conflated religion with race (well they both begin with ‘r’)?

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

a) It was you that brought up Indonesia and even when I tried to steer away from it, you said it was strange that I would want to do that

b) It was you that thinks a single web link gives you the right to represent the views of nearly 2 billion people

c) It was you, via this web link, that tried to claim democracy is anathema to Muslims, even though the country you’d referred to is in fact a democracy

d) “bastion of uninterrupted liberal democracy” – this is the height of silliness amongst the many. I didn’t argue that, I correctly pointed out that if a country is 90% Muslim and they’re apparently taught that democracy is anti-Islamic, then they wouldn’t even have the pretence of democracy

It seems that your main issue is the word “white” which suggests that you’re actually just the opposite side of the same coin as the wokesters – obsessed with identity politics, pedantry and divisiveness.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

Nah – the only religion any of them follow is the Church of self-interest!

twinkytwonk
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

That’s the top rated comment right there!

Deborah T
Deborah T
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

To anyone new to The Daily Sceptic, this racist comment is NOT typical of the comments made here!!

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

To anyone new to The Daily Sceptic, this racist comment is NOT typical of the comments made here!!

How is it “racist”?

If you want to smear him, then surely “islamophobe” would be the smear term applicable here?

If it is your position that it is never acceptable to imply that religious beliefs might affect behaviour, would you expect abortion advocates to have to refrain from opposing Catholic politicians for fear of being”racist”?

Though admittedly I’m not sure I see how muslim beliefs could be relevant to covid lunacy – perhaps if one views them as inherently more authoritarian?

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Deborah T

What ‘race’ is Islam?

Backlash
Backlash
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

There are two others in there too of note, the worst Chancellor since Gordon Brown who left three million self-employed out of work with no aid, and a home secretary who herself benefited from immigration who has done nothing to stop migrants flocking to the land of milk and honey.
One might wonder where their loyalties truly lie?

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

Nah, it’s just he’s an evil, lying, power-grabbing little shit, like the rest of them, There’s an absolute equality of wickedness.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

This comment is plainly based on spurious assumptions given that it is a well known fact that injection take up is poor in the Muslim demographic.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

Downticks from the ‘Refugees Welcome’ brigade, who, strangely, never have room in their own house to put one up.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Much like the wealthy “socialists” who somehow never see any need to contribute the money they spend on luxuries for themselves to help address the supposedly morally vital causes they want taxes increased to pay for.

Hypocrites, basically.

FlattenTheCurve
FlattenTheCurve
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

Hi. Please could you explain how Javid has confirmed you prejudice about having a Muslim in the cabinet? I’m not sure I can quite see how his religion comes into it.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago

Please see my reply to Draper233.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Nope, you’ve still not clarified why his religion has anything to do with it, especially given the fact that the poster compares Jabbit’s Covid stance as being the same as Whitty and SAGE who, unless they’re very good at hiding it, are distinctly non-Muslim.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

Whitty and Sage are distinctly undemocratic, so they each have something in common with Islam. And both (see the leaked SAGE documents from 2020), like the prophet of Islam, (see the Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari 2977) believe they will be victorious with terror. Did you actually look at the link I provided? SW is suggesting that because SJ is a Muslim, he too will view democracy as unIslamic. It’s got bugger all to do with the man’s colour. You seem somewhat ignorant of what Islam actually teaches, much like your typical woke SJW.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

As per my answer above, Indonesia is a democracy. Hardcore Islamist parties are not very well supported either. So maybe you’re the one that is ignorant?

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

So we’re cutting and pasting now are we? OK. Indonesia is a multi-ethnic Muslim majority country that has drifted in and out of democracy, but if you disagree and wish to argue that it is a bastion of uninterrupted liberal democracy, go ahead, make my day. I do admire your dogged attempt to steer this discussion away from the fact that you have conflated Islam with ethnicity, though. In that you have much in common with Boris Johnson and his very successful attempt (so it seems) to move the public’s attention away from the Downing Street Christmas Party. Why don’t you just admit that in your rush to virtue signal, you conflated religion with race (well they both begin with ‘r’)?

FlattenTheCurve
FlattenTheCurve
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

None the wiser, sorry. Am I missing something?

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago

Yes, but I can’t be arsed explaining it any more.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

I think it shows that demons can possess people of any religion. And of no religion.

mishmash
4 years ago

A quick look at the latest UKHSA data confirms he is lying out of his disgusting face again about hospitalisations.
Stop spending tens of millions everyday testing healthy people and the NHS will be just fine.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

Yes, but if the testing stops the “plandemic” ends.

Whoops….

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

Yes, but if the testing stops the “plandemic” ends.

Whoops….

Hopeless
4 years ago

As usual, facts and telling the truth are alien to this creepy terrorist. More hyperbole, more propaganda, more threats.

Old Maid
4 years ago

The man really is a pillock. But then, so is whoever was interviewing him. If there ARE unjabbed in ITUs with covid, then it’s likely that they cannot be jabbed because they are too old, too frail or already badly immunocompromised. If I, as a mad bint with a gin predilection, can see this, then so can Jabbit and so can the interviewer.

Probably, an increasing number of the viewers now know this too, so will be wondering why Jabbit is lying and why the interviewer doesn’t challenge him.

Chilli
Chilli
4 years ago
Reply to  Old Maid

Precisely. My 87 year-old mum has decided to pass on the jab because last time she had a flu vax it nearly killed her. I could do without this merchant banker demonising her for making an informed decision about what’s best for her own personal health. If she does catch CV and needs hospital treatment she’s 100% entitled to it having paid taxes her entire life working in the NHS.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
  1. Science is clear that vaccinated people transmit as much as or in some cases more virus than unvaccinated.
  2. The hospitalisation case rate per 100k is higher for vaccinated than unvaccinated in every age group over 30.
  3. Sajid Javid has sacked hundreds of thousands of healthcare workers including doctors and nurses from April 2022, massively lengthening waiting lists.
  4. Sajid Javid has ordered GPs to ignore appointments with people over 75 years old in order to give unnecessary and dangerous third and fourth doses of untested gene therapy to young people who do not need them, further lengthening waiting lists
  5. Sajid Javid is lashing out against a hastily prefabricated untermensch, hereafter called the “unvaccinated” in a futile bid to deflect people’s attention away from the fact he has committed terrible and disgusting crimes against humanity, including the murder of children and unborn babies, through his lockdown and vaccine policies.
  6. Arrest Sajid Javid.
amanuensis
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

I’d note that the relationship between infectiousness and total cases isn’t linear — it is closer to exponential (certainly at the start of each covid wave). Thus a 50% increase in infectiousness in the vaccinated might translate to a 3fold increase in case numbers.

(this also means that the vaccinated are very much putting the unvaccinated at risk)

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

This is very helpful, thanks, I’m going to include some of it In a letter to Prime Minister Nut Nut, and Assistant Prime Minister Doris The Clown. I’m thinking Three Jabs Javid’s little outburst amounts to ‘Hate Speech’ against an easily identifiable minority.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Doris has been called out by an ONS statistician for totally misrepresenting stats on the number of un-vaccinated in hospitals in an apparent attempt to encourage ‘hate’ .

Have they all been primed by A. Neil I wonder?

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

You’d think all those thousands of protesters in London yesterday could easily have gone round to Javid’s house and arrested him for these (alleged) crimes.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Unlike the Governmet, they are Law Abiding.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Point one” the official science ( not THE science) is as clear as mud.

How can unvaccinated people who are not infected with the ‘virus’ infect anyone with a virus they do not have?

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  David Beaton

They can’t, but even when you’re triple jabbed and in possession of a ‘vaccine passport’ if you’re infected you can spread it.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago

I invite Javid to provide any evidence of the damage that I have done to society; in return I’ll provide evidence of the damage that he and the rest of the crooks in Parliament have done.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

Start with the Billons of our money they have wasted on furlough and the “nice little earner” PCR and ‘Lighthouse”contracts they passed to their ‘friends’. Then there are the Lockdown lives and ruined businesses, the midazolam mystery, the sick untreated by the NHS, and the total lack of any interest in the unprecedented number of vaccine injuries and deaths – all just for starters!

Not happy with this – they now plan to do it all again!

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago

The only advice I would take from a banker, would be financial advice. At which point I would do promptly the opposite of what the wank banker says, as whatever financial advice they hand out is intended to benefit their pockets, not mine.

Why would anybody with at least one functioning brain cell wish to listen to the medical advice of someone with a background in finance?

In this case his desire to get everyone vaxxed is predicated either on pocket-lining courtesy of a grateful phama industry or an urgent need to eliminate the control group to cover up the existing and coming adverse events and ADE. Whatever it is, it will be for the benefit of his (financial/political) health, not ours.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

The only advice i’d take from a banker is how to hang himself & i’d ask for a demonstration first.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

This man is a disgrace. Resign you mindless imbecile.

It’s not the unvaccinated who ripped our society to shreds. It’s not the unvaccinated who crashed the economy. It’s not the unvaccinated who caused the massive waiting lists in the NHS. It’s not the unvaccinated who killed thousands of elderly people in Spring 2020.
It’s not the unvaccinated who have destroyed education. It’s not the unvaccinated who shut down businesses and destroyed jobs

It was the likes of you Javid, you and your cronies, you are the people who have caused such destruction over the past two years. And you and your ilk will be held accountable for what you have done.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Yes. We’re going to need to start talking about how to conduct the crimes against humanity tribunals. A lot to be organised. Arrests of politicians and complicit media goons. Location of trials. Tone of investigation. Type of sentencing. With the casual way Ursula von der Leyen tried to dismiss the Nuremberg Code, we’re going to need something much more substantial going forwards, including updating it to factor in abuses of modern biotech, transhumanism, etc.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

“And you and your ilk will be held accountable for what you have done.”

As soon as the lawyers riding their unicorns arrive.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago

“… they [unvaccinated] take up hospital beds that could have been used for someone with maybe a heart problem, or maybe someone who is waiting for elective surgery,” Javid said.

Now that is taking the piss. That is downright f’ing taking the piss. Shame on him!

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Once a tool, always a tool

CynicalRealist
4 years ago

but that any change must be “backed up by the data”.

Well that would be a first!

I think we all know by now that the “data” is tailored to suit the decisions, not the other way round.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Unfortunately he means the data from a model, but only a worse-case model of course

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Draper233

The worst-case ase model HE ordered.
As was just confirmed by the modeler.

realarthurdent
4 years ago

Lies. Lies everywhere.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

And not a drop to think.

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago

Savage Jabber and the rest of the cabinet must immediately provide indisputable evidence that they have had all three jabs themselves. If they’re going to level this sort of criticism at the public….. Pot, kettle…..

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

Yes … the real deal… not saline solution (with toothy smiles for the cameras)!

stewart
4 years ago

Fat people, heavy drinkers, smokers take note. This is the thin end of the wedge and you’re next.

Because if we are really going to start targeting bad habits and bad health decisions that put a burden on the public health care service, and their going to be going on the data, then.. I’m afraid you are in the line of fire.

On the other hand they just SAY they are going on the data but actually, they’re just trying to deflect the blame for their measures being ineffective and catastrophic to health and the economy. So you might be ok.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Next we will be told that the old are being selfish in not taking up the offer of free extermination – think of the resources and carbon emissions – think of your grandchildren. It’s the kind thing to do.

Liberty4UK
Liberty4UK
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

And the handicapped will be told they are being selfish if they jib at mandated sterilisation- just like Germany in the ’30s and ’40s. Eugenics never fully went away, and is definitely part of the green agenda.

David Beaton
David Beaton
4 years ago
Reply to  Liberty4UK

It is part of the Johnson and Gates family agenda too, going back decades.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The thin end of the wedge was the seatbelt and smoking laws. This is just the widening wedge stretching us some more.

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It was bicycle helmets for me. People putting a helmet on to ride a bicycle because the government told them they might die otherwise. A helmet to ride a bicycle, for God’s sake!
Voluntarily!

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul_Somerset

I’d agree on the helmets – I grew up road cycling, slip-streaming buses on the way to and from school and cycling 50-100 miles a day for pleasure, and would never have dreamt of wearing a helmet.

But I gave up cycling in the 1980s. I don’t think they ever actually made helmets compulsory did they (though there’s been plenty of pressure for it)?

You could add motorcycle helmets to the “thin end of the wedge” with seatbelts and smoking, though.

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I’m sixty and I’ve been a lifelong cyclist (never learnt to drive, and my parents couldn’t afford a car). It feels like a lifetime ago, but this is one of the very reasons I voted for him:

Boris Johnson says he “won’t be bullied” into wearing a cycle helmet Mayor of London rejects calls to provide helmets with hire bikes and says he doesn’t always use one himself…https://road.cc/content/news/80771-boris-johnson-rejects-calls-provide-helmets-barclays-cycle-hire-bikes-video

Whatever happened to that man…?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul_Somerset

Well, we can be pretty sure he didn’t choke on his torn up ID card.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul_Somerset

It’s not the law though right? I never wear one when cycling.

Maybe I will get a fatal head injury, but I could also get one falling over on the paving outside and whacking my head against the wall (as I did last winter).

Maybe I should wear one to take the compost out

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

The compost will proide a soft landing if you fall into it!

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

good idea Sophie. Think ‘how selfish’ those NHS types might think you are if you end up in hospital after falling when you take the compost out and you weren’t wearing a helmet for protection…taking up valuable resources that could have been spent on jabbing people with booster clot shots

TSull
TSull
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

They can have a go at the heavy drinkers and smokers when they remove the significant excise duty they make on these products. Until then….

Alkanet
4 years ago

Bonus payments to unvaxxed who are not taking up a hospital bed? I thought not or the lie will be exposed.

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago
Reply to  Alkanet

How about they return the national insurance contributions of all the ‘unvaccinated’, and they can go and make their own arrangements for medical support outside the NCS. They’ll probably get better care anyway.

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

Only about 20% of the NHS budget comes from NI, the rest being from general taxation. They owe us way more than the lifetime NI contributions.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Boomer Bloke

Bring back clapping for the heroes!

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sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

I like this idea. I’ve had covid already so I’ll be glad of the refund.

amanuensis
4 years ago

It is now becoming clear that the vaccinated are more likely to get infected and pass on the disease. The huge case numbers we have at the moment are very likely to be due to the mass vaccination campaign. I have a feeling that the government knows this and that’s why they’re going crazy about boosters.

The actual data on hospitalisation coming from the UKHSA still says that the majority of those hospitalised with covid are vaccinated. His statement about ‘9 out of 10 are unvaccinated’ suggests that he is either misinformed or lying.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

The smart money is on lying.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

How about putting notices on church doors saying: “As, according the the UK health Minister Sajid Javid, the vaccinated spread Covid, only the unvaccinated may attend services as of today.”

Fight fire with fire.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

when has that ever stopped them in the past?

they have a very socially distanced relationship with the truth and have done for oh, almost 2 years now.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

When you say “with Covid” do you mean they have tested positive in the PCR test they have been forced to take as a condition of their stay at the hospital, and that this has given them the Covid tag, or are you talking about people with respiratory disease, or blood clotting disorders – what does “with Covid” actually mean. The huge case numbers we have at the moment are very likely to be due to the mass vaccination campaign. Is this because the jabs actually cause symptoms consistent with a so called Covid infection resulting from the fact that they make people ill by destroying their immune system for example which can manifest as respiratory disease – or because they have ramped up the testing for the Omicron party extravaganza and now we have a bunch of false positives – keeping in mind that these PCR tests produce more than 90 percent false positives (its actually 100 percent because SARS COV 2 has not been proven to exist so believing in this is foolish, especially when you take in to account that its a bunch of criminals and known liars promoting it) and that the NHS is deliberately running… Read more »

stewart
4 years ago

Even if his stat about 9 out of 10 needing most care being unjabbed is true, which it probably isn’t, the reality is that the vast majority of unjabbed aren’t in hospital needing care. They aren’t sick at all, in fact they are probably extremely healthy.

So really, his statement is sort of like saying that because the majority of people in US prisons are black and hispanic, black and hispanic people are a burden to society.

We don’t condone this sort of crass generalisation for good reason when it comes to race or plenty of other human characteristics.

Monsters like Javid are engaging in disgusting, reprehensible stereotyping and incitement of hatred. He is a sorry excuse for a human being.

Jo Starlin
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

The claim is complete and utter bollocks.

No-one important
4 years ago

Apparently, by not doing up my shoe-laces I am in danger of causing my neighbour to trip up over his shoe-laces. Life is strange.

sjonesy1999
sjonesy1999
4 years ago

Him and Hancock two cheeks of the same ass.

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  sjonesy1999

And what do two halves make?

TheApesOfWrath
4 years ago
Reply to  Beowulf

An a-hole

Davke
4 years ago

Why is it so difficult for them to understand. WE’RE NOT FUCKING TAKING YOUR JAB.
Now cam we please move on.

OliveTrees
4 years ago
Reply to  Davke

They know this. They’re in the “scapegoating” phase, which will commence sincerely once they’ve convinced a sufficient percentage to take their 3rd jab.

dismalswamp
4 years ago

Fuck off melon head. Go play with a Glock.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  dismalswamp

Now this is what I call clear messaging.

nickbowes
nickbowes
4 years ago

I would not like to be in Javid`s shoes when some hardcore “extremists” track him down, Might not be tomorrow, next week or in the next ten years but one day this ugly f**k will get his just rewards.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

Looks more like Javid is the ‘extremist’, stirring up hatred within British society.

Nobody2021
4 years ago

“People getting ill are having a damaging impact on society”

“It would make my job so much easier if people didn’t get ill”

Says the Health Minister.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Nobody2021

Ah, but that’s the Health Minister for Deutsche Bank, remember.

Mark
4 years ago

Alistair Haimes
@AlistairHaimes

Surely until this wave has passed, a lockdown for the unvaccinated would be prudent, so that the rest of society can go about our normal free life?

https://twitter.com/AlistairHaimes/status/1472501714813128706

Wasn’t this arse one of your mates, Toby?

Goes in the nasty bin along with the likes of Piers Morgan and Andrew Neil.

wendy
wendy
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

In my own circle of family and friends I have now lost count of all of those people who have had 2 or 3 injections but have had or currently have covid with symptoms. Only one hospitalised – and that is a person in their mid 80s who has late stages of cancer, they are now recovering at home. I know of only 2 people who are not vaccinated, myself and a friend and neither of us have been clogging up their NHS.

Haimes must surely be in the same position, he must know of many vaccinated people who have had or currently have covid. Unless all his circle are WFH, most of mine are not.

X - In Search of Space
X - In Search of Space
4 years ago
Reply to  wendy

My daughter works in a shop. She says that her customers keep relating how they, or other 2nd/3rd jabbed they know, are getting covid.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

Damaged immune systems – Robert Malone talks about a “genetically reset immune system” in this presentation and he marks it as the most significant issue. If this is true for kids, its true for adults as well.

Dr Malone Inventor of MRNA VACCINES SAYS “Fight to protect your children” from the Covid-19 vaccine
https://www.bitchute.com/video/2xdv188kOr4M/

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  wendy

Post jab Covid – this definition seems to be the result of a “genetically reset immune system” as Robert Malone so powerfully characterised it. They arent catching anything, they are suffering from a broken immune system which is not functioning properly. Malone himself who took the jab has had respiratory symptoms ever since. He doesnt recommend it any more.

Chris_uk
4 years ago
Reply to  wendy

Similar experience in my family. The jabbed all got Covid and now seem to be permanently sick with one thing and another. My unjabbed daughter got Covid, recovered in about a week and is now as fit as a fiddle. I’m also unjabbed, been around the family all this time and never catch anything.

Draper233
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

But just like in Austria where they did a rapid U-turn, politicians know this policy is high risk as it would empirically expose their lies about the unvaxxed causing the problem. That’s why they’re so reluctant to implement it.