After Boris Suffers Largest Rebellion of His Premiership, is ‘Plan C’ Dead in the Water?

After nearly half of Conservative backbenchers revolted against ‘Plan B’ yesterday, Boris has agreed that if any further restrictions are imposed between now and the New Year Parliament will be recalled. But it is probable that if he attempts to impose ‘Plan C’, i.e. a national lockdown, not only would he face an even greater rebellion, but it would trigger a leadership challenge. That means ‘Plan C’ is unlikely – for now. MailOnline has more.

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps confirmed this morning that the premier has bowed to demands that Parliament must be recalled for a vote before any further restrictions are brought in.

During the pandemic most curbs have been introduced by ministers and then only approved by MPs retrospectively, something that has added to the fury of sceptics.

One Cabinet source warned that the only way Tory MPs would support a tightening now was after “very clear evidence that Omicron is leading to hospitalisations and deaths”.

The mutiny suffered by Mr. Johnson was close to the record insurrection that hammered Theresa May’s Brexit deal in 2019 – and greater than the biggest rebellions faced by David Cameron, Sir John Major and Margaret Thatcher.

Thirteen MPs who have attended Cabinet under four premiers defied Mr Johnson, including Dame Andrea Leadsom, David Davis, Liam Fox and Chris Grayling. Some 26 Tories first elected in his 2019 landslide victory revolted.

Louie French, the newest Tory MP who was elected in a by-election less than two weeks ago, also went against the government whip.

The numbers were more than enough to wipe out the government’s huge 80-strong majority had Keir Starmer not ridden to the rescue.

The vote came less than two hours after the PM made a last-ditch attempt to quell the rebellion by telling a meeting of the 1922 Committee of backbenchers that he had “no choice” but to impose new curbs.

The grim week for Mr Johnson looks set to get worse, with the Tory struggling to cling on to the previously rock-solid seat of North Shropshire in a by-election tomorrow, triggered by the resignation of Owen Paterson in the sleaze furore.

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Otacon
4 years ago

Just like Plan B (really ‘Plan A’) was unlikely, eh Toby?

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  Otacon

“The BBC and MSM news this morning might not be so therapeutic….for the globalists fave UK fat boy”

https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1471069047156617219?s=20

Dial in the looming threat of the Jan 5th lockdown which continues to destroy the international travel industry, just as the bonkers global governance zero covid – zero carbon evangelists want.

If they continue to push this coercive restrictive plandemic bollocks through here in the UK your private car comes next into target.

[For the greater good]

https://www.fleetnews.co.uk/news/environment/2021/12/13/transport-minister-wants-to-end-culture-of-car-ownership

And Delingpole nails last night’s voting debacle:

https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2021/12/14/democracy-is-dead-in-the-uk-and-everywhere/

The icing on the cake of their current strategy is dear old smoking gun Rishi Sunak. He abstained from the Covid ID vote because he allegedly has principles. PMSL. When BlowJo gets sacrificed, watch for how Sunak will be slotted-in to take his place.

Meanwhile more medics are speaking out:

https://twitter.com/Chris_80F/status/1470748824008380425?s=20

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Menckenitis
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Best meme in ages!

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  Menckenitis

I agree, it made me laugh out loud – until I remembered it’s actually true.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Never mind, laugh anyway.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  Menckenitis

And there’s more…

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smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Of course they want rid of your car. Cars are the one of the greatest facilitators of personal freedom and mobility which is why governments loathe them.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Yep – this is all about keeping people in one place where they can be milked. Travel restrictions.
Everyone living in an open prison – free to move around a bit – but not too far!

Lister of Smeg
Lister of Smeg
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

They want all us plebs on public transport, or not flying abroad so that the Chelsea tractors and private jets can get to their shopping, holiday and business destinations without hassle from the unwashed (unjabbed) and less crowded if we are all forced to stay at home whilst they pay a relatively small (for them) premium to increase their carbon footprint for that 4th annual holiday.

Lister of Smeg
Lister of Smeg
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Abstaining – the cowardly way out. Not the actions of a potential future leader. Court jester, maybe.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Otacon

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cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  Otacon

Its well known, and thoroughly evidenced, that the curve of death follows the curve of injection. This is why they darent discuss post injection deaths and injuries in the first two weeks.Now they are pushing a third shot, we can expect the death count to rise and for all the deaths to be blamed on covid ie omicron. Jethros post-‘booster’ death categorised in this way is but one of many to come.

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TheApesOfWrath
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

At least his Grandkids will be going to Majorca now.

nickbowes
nickbowes
4 years ago

Plan C was a “conspiracy theory” too a couple of months back.

Jabba follows what Sturgeon/Drakeford/Labour/bbc and guardian demands. It is now time for the fat fraud jabba to go.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

And be replaced by who?

Note that most Tory MPs just followed their orders from Davos.

The next Dear Leader will be worse.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

That is a sad, but probably correct view. In NL we apparently will have a real cabinet again, they’ve reached an agreement to get the coalition going. It’s already been made known that the moron who is the current Min. of Health won’t be returning to that position – but who will? Someone said it might be a member of coalition party D66 (aka Demons666), who are the ultimate EU whore. Brussels is driving the apartheid app, so indeed, getting rid of one of these useless pricks may land us with one who is even worse.

Aletheia of Oceania
Aletheia of Oceania
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Better the devil you know, eh?

DickieA
DickieA
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

It would need to be someone who has a track record of slavishly voting through every Government Bill put forward by Boris, would be guaranteed to continue current Tory policies and who can demonstate a ruthless success in whipping followers to vote for the agenda. Kier Starmer would seem to fit the bill.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Let’s keep Fauci and Klaus Schwab, Devi Sridhar, Sturgeon and Drakeford – if they go… someone worse could get in!!!

Oh please Dr Fauci, don’t go! Don’t go Bill Gates! You’re probably much better than anyone who will replace you… cuddly Boris, dishy Rishi. Even Michael Gove just wanna have fun!

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

The difference is that it’s almost certainly the case that any realistic replacement of the PM would be as bad, or more likely worse. That’s not just an idle hypothetical.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

How about making the CEO of Pfizer the Prime Minister of the United Kingdom?
There – everyone happy. No need for the middle men.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

We’re talking about Johnson, I asked who would replace him, and whether they would be better, or worse.

Do you have an answer?

Pete Sutton
Pete Sutton
4 years ago

Plan C is expectation management – a threat to make Plan B look benign. Which doesn’t mean they won’t do it, of course…

jc83
jc83
4 years ago

“very clear evidence that Omicron is leading to hospitalisations and deaths”…… I mean, it’s not like they’ve ever fudged these figure before!

actually spoke to a guy the other day. He was saying he’d been wiped out for a couple of weeks but had PCR tested negative twice along with numerous lateral flow tests. His doctor concluded that he had flu but at the same time as COVID! I just said, are you sure it wasn’t just flu as having had COVID, it doesn’t feel all that different!

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  jc83

Well that highlights the amount of research our GPs have done. Both flu and rhinovirus supress coronavirus so you can’t have both at the same time.

SallyM
SallyM
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Of course you can have them at the same time. Read this, for example.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  jc83

Covid has cured flu! It has almost disappeared completely!

Free Lemming
4 years ago

“…is ‘Plan C’ Dead in the Water?”. In short, with Labour as the ‘opposition’, the answer is a solid ‘no’. It’s also not a coincidence that we’ve got the least conservative government that’s ever existed. Tory in name only. Plan C will go ahead, of that I’m certain.

jc83
jc83
4 years ago
Reply to  Free Lemming

Keir’s wet dream team!

itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
4 years ago

If only this were true. The country is now run by the wets in the Tory party and labour. Between them they have a huge majority in the Commons so can push whatever they want through. There’s no longer any point in looking at this along normal party political lines.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

So we need a new party, a new movement. All it takes is for the rebels to secede and form one. Then watch the tide turn as they gain support! Sweet! 😋

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Didn’t 75 MPs vote against the last lockdown? Same bunch, I don’t see how its news.

What good is a leadership challenge? Who’s going to challenge him, Gove?

Nothing to see here. I mean tory sleaze, corruption & cronyism isn’t news to anyone.

Otacon
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

What about IDS? He’s led the party before. Far as I’m aware he’s voted against all the covid measures.

See, this is the problem with our system. The politicians pick who gets to lead us. A Trump-like outsider could never appear in this country because the politicians pick our leaders and the politicians would never, in a million years, pick someone who isn’t owned by the corporate interests and establishment elite

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Otacon

Frankly, I’m getting tired of Tory leadership challenges.

Outsider or no doesn’t really matter, the likes of trump can’t change anything anyway he was only the president, its the deep state that runs things.

It’s the deep state that makes all the important decisions, Boris was just a puppet.

Otacon
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

If Trump couldn’t change anything they wouldn’t have worked, they wouldn’t still be working, so hard to get rid of him.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  Otacon

Trump was just another pawn in the game.. along with the Q nonsense..

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Otacon

It doesn’t matter who gets voted in, they can’t implement real change to the system unless it’s approved by the deep state & no one can dismantle the deep state.

Don’t be so sure they wanted to get rid of trump, he was a useful idiot. It helped push the globalist agenda, (Americans like to have a boogeyman) he was an ideal anti candidate to use as reverse psychology to advocate neoliberal policy.

All these Draconian surveillance/terrorism/hate bills aren’t the brain fart of politicians, it’s deep state influence. I’ve heard some very in the know political pundits say Trump didn’t win the first election, but he did win the 2nd, which goes to show how much our vote is worth.

Otacon
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I’ve heard some very in the know political pundits say Trump didn’t win the first election, but he did win the 2nd, which goes to show how much our vote is worth. Sounds like complete nonsense. Don’t suppose you’ll tell me which political pundits said this? As for their draconian surveillance bills etc, Trump let the PATRIOT Act expire. He had to go. The idea that the Deep State can’t be fought is a myth, and one that they perpetuate in order to prevent any challenges to their power. Fact is, they can be fought and toppled. All it takes is a few people with a strong will. The Deep State is very vulnerable. I’m reminded of Manhunter. The Hannibal Lecter film with Brian Cox as Hannibal Lecter. The protagonist wants to employ Lecter’s expertise in catching a new serial killer, and they have the following exchange: Graham: I thought you might be curious to see if you’re smarter than the person I’m looking for Lecter: Then by implication you think you’re smarter than me since it was you who caught me Graham: I know I’m not smarter than you Lecter: Then how did you catch me? Graham: You had… Read more »

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Otacon

You carry on voting, dude, good luck with that. 😉

Otacon
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I don’t think I actually said that I vote.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Otacon

So what’s your point?

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Some people think that ‘voting’ is going to make the Covid fraud go away.
Delusional. The Greens and LibDems and Heritage Party (what that? steam trains?) are going to sweep to power and rescue us!

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I agree with this. And if all this madness was planned years (decades?) in advance, then Trump as president was a must. And following it with an ‘in your face’ election steal was an even bigger must. The frothing at the mouth activists at the bottom all fighting each other. With the most likely Covid sceptics all focussed on ‘election integrity’.

Trump is pro-vaccine as well. While he did some good short term things as president, he failed to tackle anything at it’s core. And all his work was left to be easily undone.

To me, Trump was a puppet. Though a willing one. Just like Bojo.

clem
clem
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Unfortunately I agree.
Unless someone comes in who is willing to disband SAGE, get rid of Witty, Vallance and Van Tam et al and be able to face the inevitable press onslaught that would follow head on, then it probably won’t change much.

Remember how before Sajid came in he was saying all the right things, even doing the right things for a time. And now he looks like a scared child, afraid of his own shadow,

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  clem

“Unless someone comes in who is willing to disband SAGE, get rid of Witty, Vallance and Van Tam et al”

That would be a good start. And not just disband them but sling the lot in prison. Crimes against humanity for starters.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Otacon

Colonel Bosi in Australia? This new movement must think outside the box as well as inside it. Civilians or non politicos should be integral to the organisation and leadership.

The Rule of Pricks
The Rule of Pricks
4 years ago

Time for them all (though I cant see the likes of Abbot and Corbyn joining their ranks) to resign the whip and form a new party. Give it a little time to organise so its lasting and then build a Conservative party based of the values of freedom, integrity, personal responsibility, minimal government (with no nannying or protecting people from their own actions and stupidity) and accountability.

Hoover in anyone and everyone who has expressed or just holds such opinions, and attract everyone else by pointing out we have a Labour government with a ‘Tory’ cabinet which isnt what the vast majority voted for.

Id join like a shot.

George L
4 years ago

And who do you think would be the first people on the phone to said new party.. I’ll give you a clue. One of his ancestors said something along the lines below..

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

Once a fraudster, the history is interesting

artfelix
4 years ago

I would join and campaign for them. I haven’t voted for 20 years because there was no choice and voting only legitimised the stitch-up. If a proper Tory-rebel led freedom-loving party committed to a fundamental overhaul of our democracy came along I would be out knocking doors every day from now until the election.

beancounter
beancounter
4 years ago

Cornish comedian Jetro has passed away, aged 73.

Headline from the Daily Fail “Comedian Jethro dies aged 73 from Covid despite having had two jabs and a booster two years after he battled cancer”
So that presumably confirms that the jabs are totally useless, or they kill people. Even though he had cancer his manager stated that this was in remission, and he was otherwise in good health before he “caught” Covid 10 days ago. But the headline is he died from Covid.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  beancounter

I personally know three people whose cancer was in remission for a very long period of time. All had the shots and are now really ill with cancer that’s come back vigorously..

Otacon
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

All by design. I’ve mentioned before the American doctor who’s studied the blood counts of patients who’ve been jabbed and found that their Killer T-Cell counts are dropping. Killer T-Cells are instrumental in preventing cancer

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

My aunt died a few months ago with exactly the same history.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

I know two people who are seriously ill with cancer. One was diagnosed last year, but everything was held up because, you know, covid; she had to quarantine for 2 weeks before every hospital appointment and treatment. This year she was double jabbed on medical advice, and since then, her cancer has accelerated and spread through her body.

Another one wasn’t even ill last year, his illness was diagnosed recently, he also is not expected to live too long. Again, double jabbed.

I completely accept that this might have happened anyway. Both are in their sixties, but that’s not old these days; and both were active and energetic until earlier this year. If it’s all a coincidence, it is one HELL of a coincidence.

Liberty4UK
Liberty4UK
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Are you aware of the whistleblower nurse who claimed that the first numbers on the Moderna vaccine after Covid were 01, 02 and 03 with:
01 meaning saline (control group)
02 meaning just the coronavirus vaccine
03 meaning the coronavirus vaccine plus a soft cell cancer carcinogen.

No idea how this works, nor if, but she left her job to say it.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  beancounter

Same thing happened to my brother, he died last NYE, was doing well and then got a brain tumour unconnected to his cancer.

snipola
snipola
4 years ago
Reply to  beancounter

Oh no!! Big fan of Jethro – had the pleasure of seeing him live in Cornwall

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  beancounter

He would be more dead if he hadn’t had the vaccines.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  beancounter

https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/13/10/2056/htm
the SARS–CoV–2 spike protein significantly inhibits DNA damage repair, which is required for effective V(D)J recombination in adaptive immunity. Mechanistically, we found that the spike protein localizes in the nucleus and inhibits DNA damage repair by impeding key DNA repair protein BRCA1 and 53BP1 recruitment to the damage site. Our findings reveal a potential molecular mechanism by which the spike protein might impede adaptive immunity and underscore the potential side effects of full-length spike-based vaccines.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Was the windfall Pharma bonus going to be Johnson’s Brexit bonus?

Rogerborg
4 years ago

There’s no need. The vaxpässen have been imposed. That was the end game all along, everything else, even internment, was just leading to them.

They’ll now be extended and extended and extended by Ministerial fiat, with no need for further primary legislation.

Even if Fattaturk is deposed, the number of Tory MPs that just voted for eternal despotism will ensure that his replacement is an even more biddable puppet of Davos.

Game over, man.

Game over.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Game over for us & freedom, this technology will never be abolished, the only chance we have now is non-compliance.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I intend to hold out as long as I can, but the genius of social credit score apps is that the tyranny can be outsourced, automated and scaled up until it is ubiquitous, and all that will be pitched as “increasing convenience” for plusgood citizens.

Cyprus, for example, have already moved to remote scanning of vaxpässen, so there’s no need for Day-Glo Derek to even inspect your papers directly.

I am expecting “vax arches” that will sound an alarm whenever a pureblood tries to sneak through. And once vaccination submission status morphs into the full social credit score system, minimum scores for entry can be imposed anywhere and everywhere.

This is another of those conspiracy theories that I fear is going to rapidly become a spoiler.

artfelix
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

That’s why slowly but surely an alternative economy, and society, is developing. I’m not giving up – never will. And we’ve still yet to see how those timid and cowed masses react when they realise how all this is going to destroy their savings, make their mortgages rocket and generally empty their pockets.

People only revolt over two things: religion and money. The Poll Tax (twice) in the U.K. being the obvious example. Inflation and interest rate hikes will clear the minds of even the hardest zero-Covid zealot. I remain hopeful not that we’ll just be rid of Johnson and Starmer but that we’ll be rid of the whole rigged system. We need to tear it all down – top to bottom – and they’ve spent the last two years stocking up all the ammunition we need to do that.

This could still go either way – but what won’t happen is a return to politics as we know it. That’s over – whether for good or bad is still to be decided.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

I hope to God that you’re right, although I do have to note that the top of the system isn’t resident in the UK, and doesn’t much give a damn about what happens to any particular puppet here, or even if we burn down the whole puppet theatre.

Changing the puppets won’t change the puppeteers, and if they’re allowed to slink off to reap the rewards – like Treasona May raking in millions from the “lecturing” her paymasters even after her mostly abject failures – then the next lot is likely to follow orders from above just as eagerly.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

You want to destroy them?
You need Adam Smith capitalism, i.e. tax is a charge for government’s product i.e. title.

Land, Patent and Copyright, and stop taxing OUR work.

Liberty4UK
Liberty4UK
4 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

They revolt over anything that matters to them. Christianity doesn’t mean much to most any more, sadly. (It does to me.)

Science is a god to many but it isn’t as black and white as they imagine, and when they see some scientists have let them down they will be angry.

But I would think the revolt will be over material goods and possessions and family. I think the attempt to take people’s cars off them will go down really really badly. They may think they can do it by degrees- bad expensive petrol, lower speed limits, lots of roadworks, idiots allowed to glue themselves to the road, cyclists and pedestrians being given priority over cars, cameras everywhere, punitive parking fines, and so on, then electric cars, followed by days when the grid is down. We have to warn people and warn them of the authoritarian danger behind green mask.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

And if you want to complain about your social credit score you’ll be directed to a call centre in India operated by Rishi’s billionaire wife.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Never give in, never give in, never, never, never, never—in nothing, great or small, large or petty—never give in except to convictions of honor and good sense.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Not so. We need a Colonel Bosi as in Australia now. The future is Anarcho-Bonapartism. A just emergency dictator a la Roman Republican theory. Come on, work for the return of a messianic Bonaparte, now!

Proveritate
4 years ago

The vote came less than two hours after the PM made a last-ditch attempt to quell the rebellion by telling a meeting of the 1922 Committee of backbenchers that he had “no choice” but to impose new curbs.

Of course he had a choice. Measures like introducing vaccine passports and firing health workers who are no ‘fully vaccinated’ have huge ramifications, not just to the individuals immediately affected but to society as a whole. Without any benefit to public health, or a benefit so small that it is unconscionable to implement them in the face of such profound adverse ramifications.

But ministers have made it abundantly clear,: nothing, absolutely nothing, is more important than getting booster jabs into arms of the majority of the population by the year end. That means everything else can be sacrificed on the altar of the biosecurity god.

That is not conservatism, nor is it historically Conservatism. It’s the road to hell.

8bit
8bit
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

sacrificed on the altar of the biosecurity god.

There’s no ‘bio’ and no ‘security’ involved whatsoever. Those terms are a shrinking fig leaf the despots are hiding behind. When that leaf vanishes the only thing visible will be a Davos swastika. This is tyranny, plain and simple.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

My feelings too.

Didn’t have a choice?? He’s the PM for goodness sake, of course he had a choice! What he has brought about has been his choice. It certainly wasn’t mine, or yours, or next door’s cat’s…..it was Johnson all along.

Unless he is implying that someone else is in control? Nah, can’t be – ain’t that just a conspiracy theory?

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

Did he open his eyes wide and make urgent gestures as he said he had no choice?

As if trying to give a sign that he wasn’t free to speak his mind because the people he really works for would have him suffer another bout of “COVID” and that he wouldn’t make it out of hospital alive this time?

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

A trip round the block in the van with the men in black balaclavas is all that’s needed to persuade someone to change their mind.

sceptic_scot
sceptic_scot
4 years ago

Desmond Swayne did in fact vote against (as per the update on the Rebel Alliance post) and reported elsewhere.

snipola
snipola
4 years ago

Is there a list of those who voted and who never bothered to vote? Would be interested to see where our MP stood – emailing him has always been pointless as i never got a reply! Tory MP Sir William Cash

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

I’m disgusted with Labour. They like to portray themselves as human rights champions and yet can’t wait to push and shove their way to the front in taking human rights away from everyone except terrorists and illegal immigrants!

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Keir Starmer is basically just Tony Blair with a squarer head. He is another Globalist weasel.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

And without the charisma – it was that which enabled Blair to get so many people to support him, until he came well and truly unstuck over Iraq.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Oh come on – he’s Foxman by night!

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

Do Labour genuinely not see they could have brought the Government down last night simply by being on the side of the people? Johnson would have had to resign, a new leader would be stuttering through for the next year or so and, eventually, have to call an election. Labour win by being on the side of the people. They really are unelectable.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

All Blairites have been for years

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Why would they want to bring the government down?
They get to see the policies they themselves support, implemented by someone else without all the hassles of actually being in government.

Huge increases in public spending
Higher tax
Unlimited money for the NHS
Universal Benefits (coming soon)
An open door for unlimited immigration
Climate emergency nonsense
Concreting over the green belt
Dumbing down of education
More power to the public sector
Draconian COVID legislation and state control of the population
Media and internet censorship

Obviously the Conservatives say they are against these things. But you need to focus on what they actually do whilst in office.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I was about to write the same. Politics is not about holding titles, otherwise, the UK would be a monarchy, but about having the power to change things. If someone else holding a title ends up being formally accountable, all the better.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Kim Jong Johnson has been doing what Labour were going to do anyway, he had to support it.

FrankFisher
4 years ago

Plan C has now been legislated for. It’s simply winding up B via regulation. The Rubicon has been crossed..

TreeHugger
4 years ago

Carlisle United have reduced their stadium capacity to 9,999 so that fans won’t have to show Covid Passports and vaccination status to comply with government rules

A small but welcome gesture, now hoping other businesses find work arounds.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Awesome

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Given the legislation has been passed now, we now all need to move on to ensuring it is made unworkable and people just laugh at the government and the people implementing it.

TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I know a fair few season ticket holders who are asking for refunds as the T&Cs have changed.

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

If I had a venue with a 550 capacity you can bet you arse it’d be 499 from today.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

My new favourite football club.

Annie
4 years ago

All hail Sir Sneer Smarmer, saviour of tyranny.

Encierro
4 years ago

Answer is a simple no. Con-Lab alliance will ensurer it will be up and running.

NonCompliant
4 years ago

The Fat Controller is all geared up for a January 5th lockdown, make no mistake.

At this point, anyone who can’t see where this is going is a total moron lol.

Even Dan Hodges finally seems to have figured it out lmfao. The Cult membership is trying it’s best to get him back into the fold via Twitter mobs. I can here the planks being thrown onto the pyre from here if they fail !!

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

Ross Clark predicted this, just before COP26, that Kim Jong Johnson would impose a lockdown straight after it was finished and Johnson has been preparing the ground for one, ever since it finished.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  NonCompliant

For fun I brought forward this comment to Jan 4th. NonCompliant seems to have failed to see where this is going.

Stephanos
Stephanos
4 years ago

Is Plan ‘C’ dead in the water?
I can answer that for you Toby, and the answer is NO; it is not dead and it is alive and well and will be introduced and forced through at the earliest opportunity.
I would give it until January 15 2022.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

He knows. That’s why it says “for now”.

Toby’s conversion away from the “cock up” theory is almost complete. He has acknowledged that pretty much everything that us “conspiracists” have been warning about is correct and likely to come to pass. He’s just not quite ready to accept it’s been planned. He’s shifted to the “perfect storm” explanation.

Give him time. He’s almost there.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Plan C will be revived, Mengele Gove will find a way and Kim Jong Johnson will pretend he isn’t eager to impose it.

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

Its beginning to look a lot like fascism everywhere you go …’

The new Christmas number one …

https://twitter.com/beverleyturner/status/1470654199725756418

Anti-Matter
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

I have a whole album for you: Ten days to go and excitement is building for lockdown! Celebrate with a new compilation of 19 infectious Christmas tunes to inject some life into the non-event of the year * 1. Slade – Merry Xmask Everybody 2. Chris Rea – Staying Home For Christmas 3. Mel & Kim – Coughin’ Around The Christmas Tree 4. Aled Jones – Virus In The Air 5. Dean Martin – Baby, It’s Covid Outside 6. Pogues & Kirsty MacColl – Fairytale Of New Variant 7. Bruce Springsteen – Omicron Is Coming To Town 8. Wizzard – I Wish It Could Be Covid Everyday 9. Boney M – Mary’s Boy Child / O Mi Cron 10. Mike Oldfield – In Dulce Jabilo 11. The Beach Boys – Little Saint Prick 12. Mud – Lockdown This Christmas 13. Cliff Richard – Davidstow And Wine 14. Jonny Mathis – When A Child Is Born (Jab It Mix) 15. Wham! – Lost Christmas 16. Bing Crosby – Shite Christmas 17. Cliff Richard – The Saviour’s Day (Yes, Where Is He?) 18. Christmas Carol Medley – God Test Ye Merry Gentlemen/Hark The Herald Angels Ping/Furlough The Star/ O Come All Ye… Read more »

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Old Maid
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Matter

Lolz. Is it ok that I prefer Michael Buble’s version of Feliz Covidad?

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti-Matter

Good King Wenceslas Went Out – and caught Covid.

As shepherds washed their socks by night, all seated round the tub,
The Angel of the Lord came down – and handed out face masks.

Silent Night – everyone’s dead of Covid.

I’m Dreaming of a Whitty Christmas

Once in Royal Javid’s City, come on down to the vaccination bus!

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

resist defy do not comply … catchy!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1467529035593003012

George L
4 years ago

American Heart Association’s warnings deemed unsafe by Twitter..

https://www.rt.com/news/542078-twitter-heart-association-unsafe-vaccines/

I was going to say.. you just couldn’t make this up.. but its so obvious you can..

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2021-12-14/covid-propaganda-roundup-american-heart-associations-vaccine-warning-censored

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

I don’t know what a Computational Biologist is, but it sounds impressive.
The 5th Doctor – Ep. 12: Computational Biologist Dr. Jessica Rose Reveals Shocking VAERS Issues

With a Bachelor’s degree in applied mathematics, a Master’s degree in immunology, a Ph.D. in computational biology, and postdoctoral degrees in both molecular biology and biochemistry, In December of 2020, Dr. Jessica Rose started downloading and analyzing the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) weekly updates. (The system began rolling out updates only on December 17th in the U.S.) What followed was Dr. Rose’s descent into a rabbit hole of inconsistencies, missing data, loss of safety signals and an inexcusably inadequate data collection system with vastly underreported adverse events and deaths that stoked the fires of dissent against the official narrative of the “vaccines” and indeed, the “pandemic” itself…..

I’ve never heard of her before, but she’s fighting on the right side.

sophie123
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

She has been outspoken for a while. She has published with McCullough and done interviews with Trish Wood (podcasts) – well worth a listen.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Its like the BBC are gagging for Plan C, havent watched BBC for months, but the few minutes today were, to a Minister, are you going to implement Plan C and Where are out Boosters?

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

The jab junkies want their boosters. And their pushers are happy to comply.

jingleballix
4 years ago

Some recent four month periods of all-cause mortality in England & Wales.

> Dec-Mar 2014-15……….200,806

> Dec-Mar 2016-17……….205,450

> Dec-Mar 2017-18……….218,165

> Dec-Mar 2019-20………202,845

> Apr-Jul 2020……………230,039

> Dec-Mar 2020-21………234,016

UK started jabbing on 8th December 2020 – so, the deaths through our first winter with the jab were WORSE than the original four months of C-19.

Not that there is much difference between these periods anyway – mean average of the six = 215,220.

However, last winter only about 3-4m were jabbed – now it must be about 53m.
 
So, four points to ponder:

1. It is entirely likely that right from the beginning, we have made a massive fuss over not very much.

2. Jabbing doesn’t really help…….in fact it looks like it could be making things worse

3. The British government is now using Omnicron as a patsy for what may occur later this winter if millions of jabbed people catch ordinary cold/flu and the jab has compromised their immune system.

4. If Omnicron genuinely constituted a ’tsunami’ of death that Johnson claims, then why has the third jab been prioritised and NOT the reopening of Nightingale units.

The last question is the Toby Young vs James Delingpole debate.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

The vaccines were never going to change anything (for the better) for a disease that mainly effects (kills) the dying (aged & comorbidity) !

All statistics vaccinated v unvaccinated are worthless nonsense, no vaccine can cure death, no vaccine will fix obesity or cancer or immunosuppressed or old age!

And what’s the point of boosters if it takes 14 days before they are “effective” the infection rate will peak before then & kill anyone vulnerable.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The point being, as it has been reported by depiffel himself the vaccine doesn’t prevent transmission or infection, the vaccines only claim to fame is that it reduces severity of disease!

Reduces severity of disease in the vast majority of those jabbed, who were never going to be vulnerable to severe disease! People are dying mostly of old age with covid & nothing can prevent it.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

The jabs are a means to an end ie passports for us and a nice little investment for them

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

And depopulation.

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  jingleballix

So far the jabs have killed more people than Omnicron.

Noumenon
4 years ago

Over the months these articles read like a commentary on a sinking ship. You can take solace in the fact it hasn’t sunk yet, but it’s still sinking.

The WEF people think they can become captain, but it’s sinking for them too.