Is there Any Evidence that the New Lockdown Measures will Work?

There follows a guest post in which ‘George Santayana’, the pseudonym of a senior executive in a pharmaceutical company, asks if there is there any evidence that the new lockdown measures will work? After examining the impact of similar measures in Scotland and Wales in the last six months, he concludes that they will not.

Last week, the Prime Minister announced that England would be moving to implement stricter mask mandates, work from home orders and vaccine passports in certain situations to try and do something to limit the rise of the Omicron variant. This is the so-called ‘Plan B’ and, although nowhere near a full Lockdown, involves the U.K. Government flexing its authoritarian muscles and imposing a range of restrictions on England in the name of saving us from viral Armageddon. But is there any evidence that these measures will help?

Effectively since ‘Freedom Day’ (July 19th, 2021), we’ve been doing a real-world experiment in England, Scotland, and Wales because, while England dropped mask requirements and had never implemented vaccine passports, the other two nations maintained the requirement for face coverings and introduced vaccine passports in some settings. In effect, Scotland and Wales all went to versions of ‘Plan B’ and, as a result, we can compare the effect that these extra restrictions have had on SARS-CoV-2 infection and Covid-related deaths to those in England as a way of understanding the potential impact of ‘Plan B’ in England.

Let’s start by thinking about what we might predict would have happened if ‘Plan B’ measures had had any significant effect in preventing the spread of SARS-CoV-2 in Scotland and Wales. Firstly, we would predict that, looking at levels of infection within the general population, we should see a clear difference between England, as the control group, and Wales and Scotland, with England performing worse with respect to the number of infections per head of population or perhaps showing worse trends in things such as more rapid increases in rates of infection or slower recovery from a ‘wave’ of infections. Similarly, if we consider Covid-related deaths, we’d expect that ‘Plan B’ would help Scotland and Wales avoid a larger number of Covid related death compared to England, which would again be at the bottom of the league table. Finally, as the non-pharmaceutical interventions (NPIs) implemented by Wales and Scotland in their ‘Plan Bs’ are similar, we might expect that any trends we observe in looking at infections and deaths in these two countries are more similar to each other than to England, corroborating the idea that these improvements are due to ‘Plan B’.

Let’s first look at the infection data, which we can pull directly from the latest ONS survey that can be found here.

In Figure One, I’ve reproduced the results from the ONS coronavirus infection survey for England, Wales, and Scotland. The arrows on the graphs on the left-hand side indicate the approximate position of July 19th (‘Freedom Day’).

Firstly, as you can see from the graphs on the left-hand side of Figure One, there does appear to be a general difference between Scotland and Wales compared to England. Scotland and Wales both start at lower levels of infections post ‘Freedom Day’, but neither nation sustained this lower level, with both showing increasing levels of positive test results throughout August and into September. Scotland then appeared to partially recover from a ‘wave’ and returned to a more constant, if higher, level of infection, whereas in Wales infection levels went up and stayed up. In contrast, although positive test results started higher in England, they remained relatively flat throughout. There is a weak similarity between the infection graphs in Scotland and Wales because both suffered significant rises in positive results after July 19th, rises that haven’t yet returned infections to pre-August levels, but it’s difficult to see a common trend here. The important observation is that overall neither country obviously out-performed England with respect to preventing or reducing SARS-CoV-2 infections in the general population following ‘Freedom Day’. A point that becomes even clearer if we look at the more recent data on positive test results presented on the right-hand side of Figure One. Now Wales appears to be the ‘worst’ performer, with Scotland the ‘best’ and England somewhere in the middle, although there really isn’t much to choose between any of these as considering the margins of error (the grey shading) they are not significantly different to each other.

If the graphs in Figure One weren’t labelled, would it be possible to say which region(s) had introduced ‘enhanced’ coronavirus ‘Plan B’ measures? Probably not, but I suspect if pushed to select one country as the most likely candidate many people would choose England because, despite starting at a higher level of positive test results, it looks as if here ‘Plan B’ has ‘flattened the curve’ compared to the other two!

So, unless there is something radically different about the ONS screening in England, meaning that the results significantly under-report the prevalence of SARS-CoV-2 within this population compared to Wales and Scotland (extremely unlikely as all three nations use the same methodology), then the obvious conclusion from the ONS data is that ‘Plan B’ has had no measurable effect on coronavirus infections: it didn’t stop either Wales or Scotland from having an increase in coronavirus infections, nor did it help either to really outperform England.

Maybe screening results are not the best way to measure the effects of ‘Plan B’ measures? Perhaps a better way of detecting the positive impact of ‘Plan B’ NPIs is to look at Covid-related deaths within the different populations? After all, this is what is important and perhaps the lack of an effect on infections in the general populous is not the effective way of measuring ‘Plan B’, despite this being the stated aims of these NPIs!

Going to the coronavirus dashboard on December 8th, 2021, I downloaded the figures for Covid-related deaths in each nation. As many have pointed out, death within 28 days of a positive coronavirus PCR test is not the same as dying of Covid, but because England, Scotland and Wales all use this same method to categorise Covid-related deaths using this data does at least mean we are comparing like with like.

Figure Two is a plot of Covid-related deaths in Scotland, England and Wales normalised by the total population of each nation and expressed as the number of weekly deaths per million people for each week since ‘Freedom Day’ over the same period as the ONS screening data. Population figures were taken on December 8th, 2021, from the ONS here.

Interestingly, unlike the ONS data in Figure One, Covid-related deaths in Scotland and Wales appear to be very similar to each other and both are dissimilar to England. Is this the effect of ‘Plan B’? Let’s hope not, because although Scotland and Wales both started at lower levels of Covid related deaths in July and August both saw a rapid increase in the numbers of deaths in September (probably following on from the rise in the number of infections in August). However, unlike positive screening results (Graph One) which dropped in October, Covid-related deaths in Scotland remained high and very similar to Wales throughout this period. England, by contrast, has shown a relatively flat level of Covid-related mortality (again reflecting the ONS infection data), a level that has remained below that of the other two nations since September.

This is even clearer in Figure Three, where I have compared the Covid related numbers of deaths between England and those of the ‘Plan B’ countries combined.

We can again play the game of “Who Implemented ‘Plan B'” and imagine looking at Figure Three without identifying which region is which. If we did this and asked someone to identify the country that had put in place the enhanced coronavirus controls of ‘Plan B’, I’d bet that almost everyone would erroneously identify the blue line as the place where Covid NPIs were implemented. It’s obvious, isn’t it?

And so, there you have it. There is no evidence whatsoever that ‘Plan B’ will do anything to either reduce the numbers of SARS-CoV-2 infections or prevent Covid-related deaths. Unlike other cross-country comparisons which are fraught with potential confounding factors, the geographic, demographic, genetic and cultural similarities of Scotland, Wales, and England, together with their commonality of health service, screening provision and interpretation of Covid-related results, mean that comparing England with Scotland and Wales is a pretty good way of understanding the likely real-world impacts (or lack thereof) of ‘Plan B’ NPIs. The infection figures from England since ‘Freedom Day’ are no worse than those of Scotland or Wales and the Covid related mortality data since September appears to be better. As a result, one might even conclude that not only is ‘Plan B’ useless, but that it might even make things worse.

Unfortunately, showing that ‘Plan B’ is useless, or more specifically does not produce better outcomes than no restrictions at all (or very light touch ones) is unlikely to result in a sensible rowing back of restrictions. No, if noticed at all, it will be likely be used as evidence for the need for stricter measures; ‘Plans C, D, E’ and beyond, none of which are likely to help stop the spread of omicron but all of which will impose increasing levels of misery across the general population with all of the impacts on health and wellbeing that come with those. So, as Mr. Johnson announces the implementation of ‘Plan B’ in England, let me leave the last thought to the real George Santayana:

Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.

Many thanks to Will Jones for help with this article.

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Norman
4 years ago

It is good to see them following “The Science™”

JeremyP99
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Thanks to “climate change” we now know that “The Science” means “anything but science”. Clever eh?

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

An interesting follow up to this will be to see if England starts to match Scotland and Wales *after* the introduction of Plan B.

If it does, then the actual scientific conclusion is that doing what England did in the summer is a superior approach.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

I think the scientific conclusion must be that plan B is too lax. We need to go in with compulsory full-head coverings made of tight-fitting polyethylene, worn 24/7. That is the only way that society can be made safe.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

Well, if all the Cabinet and all the Labour Party and all SAGE members and all BBC tsars wore them, the situation would certainly improve dramatically.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

Don’t give em ideas!!

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

How about just shooting everyone who tests ‘positive’ for ‘Covid’?
That’ll get ‘cases’ to vanish pretty damned quickly!!

tom171uk
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Same way they beat foot and mouth disease.

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

yes, the evidence is clear, lockdowns are very effective at harming the nations health, children, the economy,…………, and everything else except viral spread

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

In my area a group has set up over the weekend and specifically to allow those who believe in freedom and liberty to operate without all the onerous impositions that the Johnson regime wishes to enforce upon the population and small businesses. It already has over 2,000 associates and including like-minded people and small businesses. Because of its success I believe a similar movement is to be set up in a neighbouring county.

Be awake not woke!

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Last week, the Prime Minister announced that England would be moving to implement stricter mask mandates, work from home orders and vaccine passports in certain situations to try and do something to limit the rise of the Omicron variant. 

After three weeks, it’s looking like omicron is causing 25 times less death than delta with similar case loads. Jury still out on whether vax might be more susceptible to it, because South Africa is only 25% vaxxed.

TSull
TSull
4 years ago

It depends on what your definition of “work” is. How is that being measured? Is it a reduction in the number of so-called “cases”? Or is it the number of business pushed into bankruptcy, the number of people out of work and on the brink of poverty? Maybe the number of people who succumb to depression? The number of children not receiving an education?

Boomer Bloke
4 years ago
Reply to  TSull

The number of people denied a GP or other medical specialist appointment? The number of people denied an operation or other treatment?

Drew63
Drew63
4 years ago

Confession: A moment of cowardice on my part today. I walked out of church when it became apparent that masks were expected to be worn. Let’s not get into the insanity of the restrictions. You are legally required to wear one while in the building, but apparently are allowed to remove them while singing. The science on the precise respiratory mechanism by which covid is transmitted is admittedly sketchy, but it does appear that singing is one activity that makes transmission more likely. I’m simply not going to sit in church for an hour and a half wearing a mask. I’m not willing to make a scene or cause anyone distress, and certainly not in a place of worship. I felt very sad walking away. For me, the act of celebrating worship with my fellow parishioners is an integral part of my Christian faith. But I have balance that with the knowledge that by participating in an act of mass delusion with those same people, I would – at least tacitly – be sanctioning the madness. I doubt my departure, or the reason for it, made much impression. The collection will be £20 less. I suspect that will be the… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Indeed very sad, though I tend to the view that if I can avoid it I don’t much fancy spending time with masked people. It might be worth explaining to the vicar/minister whatever you have as to why you’ve done it. It will probably make no difference, but we can only do what we can. Perhaps others will do the same. Is there anyone who goes regularly that might feel like you, or that you are close enough to that you can speak about it honestly?

thirts
thirts
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Earier this year I was due to go to a private event (about 30-40 people) in the North of England and out of nowhere the organiser decided that to attend everyone should be double vaxxed.

Altough I am double jabbed I decided not to attend, and I let the organsier know the reason why, as I will not support any activity that makes vaccination a condition of entry. Unfortunately this requirement has been gaining momentum and I think has created vaccine passports via the backdoor. For example my wife has attended several events where they made vaccines a condition of entry (she does not feel as strongly as me about such conditions). I understand many theatres makes vaccines a condition of entry, so through relentless fear campaigns the Governement have more or less already introduced vaccine passports through stealth.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  thirts

Yes, it is being introduced by stealth and voluntarily. They cannot introduce them in places of worship in NL due to the constitution (the number of people complaining about that makes me despair – complaining about constitutional protections against the overreach of tyrants). The church my mum goes to discussed it but will not use them. However, a few months ago there was a private do at the church in the evening, for parishioners. My mum had been very much looking forward to it, then found out on the day itself (helping to get the church ready) that they would be using qr codes. The person who was going to be at the door knows my mum doesn’t have a qr code and said he would let her in, but she refused to go, simply because she believes the apartheid app is wrong and to cooperate with it lends it legitimacy. So good for you for taking a stand. I have no intention of getting vaxxed, but if I got the lurgy, once ‘recovered’ our masters would allow me to use the apartheid app for a certain period of time – even then I would refuse to use it, it… Read more »

Jon Garvey
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Good for your mum. “Have nothing to do with the deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.”

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

You should claim exemption. They cannot lawfully stop you from doing so. As a Catholic I sympathise with you. But most churches have been too chicken to ask questions despite most worshippers wearing masks. So I am exempt. Otherwise stay home and watch services online. If they bring in passports for churches I wont be able to go at all, of course.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Perhaps you could ask the priest to give a sermon on the part of the bible where Jesus refused to walk among the lepers unless they showed their leprosy vaxx pass. Isn’t that sort of how the story went?

Or do Christian churches consider the teachings of Christ irrelevant in times of corona?

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

I’m afraid you are right. Most churches have been among the most ardent supporters of covidianism at least in a passive way. But they are in the wrong on this issue. We needed a great pope not the one we actually have. Yet quite a few resisters in the UK are also Christians. The lack of decent relevant preaching reflects wokery and spinelessness too sadly.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

It is very sad. If there is anyone who should be standing up against the exclusion and ‘othering’ of others as is currently being advocated, it is Christians and Christian churches. That is the very fundament of Christiantity, to be open to all, to seek to help all, even if this involves personal risk.

I am not a believer myself, but do like the teachings of Jesus as guidance for trying to make the world a better place.

Yes, il papa – I haven’t liked him since day 1. When he smacked that woman a couple of times for zealously grabbing him (yes, she was wrong, but I don’t think she realised what she was doing) and then waited a long time to give a rather insincere apology, that said enough.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

How many will remain faithful when Christ returns?, asks Jesus in the Gospel… it just shows that any kind of person and every sort has and does support this covidian nightmare. It doesnt exempt the rest of us from doing all we can to resist though.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

The organized religions (all of them) in Europe have pretty much done themselves in due to Corona: Their functionaries cannot possibly believe in the truthfulness of their own teachings.

Drew63
Drew63
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I did consider that. But even if no one challenged me, what would be the reason for my exemption? That I’m allergic to bullshit?

What about the Peace? Do I stand there with a visible warm smile of goodwill in a crowd of masked faces, looking into a sea of eyes filled with silent reproach at my “selfishness”?

Maybe I am being selfish.

The earliest Christians bravely faced very real risks. Like being crucified or thrown to the lions. Later Christians risked the rack, Hitler’s concentration camps or Stalin’s gulags.

My Christian faith is important to me. But I’m acutely aware that there is much, much more at stake. Like the fundamental existence of human society.

We are social animals. We simply must have the experience of seeing other human faces as we go about our business and our daily lives.

And I’ll be damned (literally and figuratively) if I let that disappear from the earth without putting up a good hard fight.

I’m just struggling right now trying to figure out the best way to fight that battle.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Severe distress = exemption, it’s even explicitly listed on the govt guidance. Anyway, none of their business.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes. To be honest in a tyranny there is no place for false guilt.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Many modern Christians even the orthodox kind ‘shop around’ for services and ‘community’. Covid has exacerbated that. You are not being selfish by removing your mask, that is the enemy’s false logic. You need to take heart from your faith while remaining true to reason too. They are eminently compatible.

Catee
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

You can always say with a very downcast face that you’re exempt because you have CS….. Don’t let them know it stands for Common Sense.

SteveHoffmanUK
SteveHoffmanUK
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

(See my post above). Just attend without a mask. I doubt that you will be challenged, but if you are, either ignore it or just say you’re exempt. You don’t have to say why you’re exempt – that should end the discussion (see UK government website Face coverings: UK Gov).

Willybolly17
Willybolly17
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

I agree total madness.

The CofE Covid guidance runs to 13 pages!

The group is led by the Bishop of London who was a health professional before she took to the priesthood- I emailed her about this mask madness with a number of links to papers but so far have not received a reply.

I am a churchwarden and am not prepared to quote a non existant exemption – so what do I do?

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Correct. Many people do not understand the nature of ‘exemption’, including it’s legal meaning. Of course, a lot of that is caused by deliberate malfeasance by the usual suspects and their agents, typically with bottom of the barrel text that admits the truth, after all the rest of it in their ‘leaflets’. You should declare exemption from the so-called ‘passport’ scam as well. It is not possible to legally enforce something contradictory to inalienable/indefeasible legislation, such as the H R Act 1998 – although they could try it on in the hope that they won’t be sued. What we need is some high profile legal cases to put a stop to it.

Javy
Javy
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

We were looking forward to going to our village church’s Carol Service this evening but, with the return of masks, we will stay away. We do not want to sit with faceless people, neither do we want to witness the ludicrous charade of masks off when singing and back on when the music stops.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Javy

It’s time to organise carol singing out of doors. Muzzled Christmas services are a ghastly travesty, and as for services subject to Nazipapiere … how the Devil must be laughing.

dorset dumpling
dorset dumpling
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Our village carol service is being held outdoors around the clock tower later this afternoon.

David101
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Excellent idea. Even if it’s raining, it’s more friendly and communal than being around people hiding their faces. I would put up with all manner of weather than sit stifled by a face muzzle.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Javy

Utter madness – like how the virus doesn’t circulate while you are eating but you have to mask up to leave the table in a restaurant or cafe.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

God bless you. I did the same thing many months ago, after being hectored from the pulpit for having a face. I now conduct my own worship outside, under Heaven.
I think we need a new movement, a sort of Christian SiTP, so that true Christians can congregate outside and worship Jesus Christ in his and their humanity. Maybe we could call it ‘the church outside’.
Golgotha was outside, too.

Jon Garvey
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

My church has imposed masks for singing too, but I hear that my old church has not, on the basis of “new government research” that suggests masks don’t help when singing. I’m all for that finding – though accepting any official research without studying methodology is what got us here.

But if masks really don’t help when singing, it’s a bit hard to see why they should be thought to achieve anything whatsoever whilst sitting quietly in the pew.

I could live with masks more easily if churches – any churches – explained that though they are the law, the imposition of vaccine passports and the discussion of compulsory vaccination has taken them beyond their God-given mandate to rule, so members should feel free to decide whether they will indicate their agreement with the other measures by wearing the masks.

But I’m not holding my breath for a rapid and angry response to anti-human laws from the denominations.

Pete Sutton
Pete Sutton
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

I think the CoE parted company with Christianity a while ago. One Cathedral – Durham, I think – now denies entry to anyone without a covid pass,
https://www.durhamcathedral.co.uk/whats-on/festival-of-nine-lessons-and-carols-22-dec-2021

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Pete Sutton

The church is a tool of the state and the over-arching power structure. Redundant brainwashing centres for closed minds.

Pete Sutton
Pete Sutton
4 years ago

You’ve been there, then…?

SteveHoffmanUK
SteveHoffmanUK
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Like you, I will not sit in church for an hour and a half wearing a face mask, so I don’t. I may possibly be the only unmasked worshipper at the service. I don’t “make a scene”. If I cause distress, it is not evident: I converse with others and people respond normally as if I were wearing a mask. After the service I go to coffee time and chat with others normally and they respond normally. I can detect no shying away from me, no reproachfulness or anything like that.

Maybe you are more sensitive than I am, but I don’t feel uncomfortable and certainly don’t feel intimidated at all. You must do what you’re comfortable with, but I can only urge you to reconsider, return next Sunday and participate maskless. You might even find Christian love and acceptance! Now there’s a shocking prospect!

neilhartley
neilhartley
4 years ago
Reply to  Drew63

Did the same at Arundel Cathedral Carols on Saturday – well didn’t bother turning up for the same reason.

Julian
4 years ago

Plan B has nothing to do with “stopping covid”. It’s not worth the effort of even trying to analyse it, or anything else, in those terms.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes but Daily Sceptic has to do its bit to keep the bullshit train running and help to destroy the counter narrative by penning articles about how great the injections are at saving lives and pondering how lockdowns can be effective in the face of a contagion which doesnt exist

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

When the new lockdown measures do not work, that is evidence that they have not worked. When the new lockdown measures do not work, that is evidence they have worked. As long as they pull the wool over the eyes it makes no difference. ‘Rising’ covid or ‘falling’ covid is just evidence of whatever the underlying goal of gov is. The goal isn’t the end of covid or this tyranny.

George L
4 years ago

Is there Any Evidence that the New Lockdown Measures will Work?
How many times do you have to ask a question before it starts to grate. FFS we already know the bloody answer, stop repeating the bloody question. Literally, a million word salads of absolute garbage have been written about this fraud by fence sitters like the author of this one.

Get off the fence, grow some balls and start talking about the massive vaccine damage, the implosion of economies, tyranny exploding across the West, the destruction of our societies, and the upcoming plans to inject a toxin into our little children..

All those who have the ability to write column inches but don’t talk about what I’ve mentioned above are doing no more than fiddling while Rome burns..

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

I was thinking deckchairs and Titanic – perhaps it’s too much of a cliche, but then again, isn’t ‘do lockdown measures work?’ becoming a cliche too?

David101
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

I disagree: The whole point is to draw up enough logic and analysis to discredit anyone who would impose lockdown on the fairytale that they are effective. That we need mass-awareness of the destructiveness of vaccines applied to unnecessary age groups, implosion of economies, etc, is also obvious to most sceptics. But honest studies using reliable data are part of an increasing arsenal that equip the critic with the means to refute any justification for lockdowns.
Evidence is indeed a powerful thing rightly applied.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  David101

while you have a point have you not yet grasped the fact that the government isn’t at all interested in any evidence which runs counter to their lying narrative and that the bulk of the population are now so completely brainwashed that they would not be able to get their heads around it even if you explained it to them???

martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
4 years ago

The whole world has been trying this shit for almost two years. LOCKDOWNS DONT WORK! They never will. It’s not about health! It’s about control.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

“It’s about control.”

-and making money! Anyway, what is to be done about it? How about running round supermarkets pulling face masks off the sheep and slapping them in the face with a wet fish to wake them up?

JohnK
4 years ago

‘through the looking glass’ control, maybe. In the real world, they’ve lost it. Perhaps they’ve lost something that they never really had; an illusion. Ask someone who works in hedge funds and so on.

texluh
texluh
4 years ago

‘Fanaticism consists in redoubling your efforts when you have forgotten your aim.’

And fanaticism it is. The daily belief is ‘Lockdowns are the right thing to do, and letting myself be persuaded otherwise would be morally wrong. `

texluh
texluh
4 years ago

Of course, the scientists in charge of advice are trying an experiment. The plans of 2011 and 2019 were not intended to be experiments, but were not followed. People interested in evidence based science would have used those plans. The current scientists clearly don’t believe in evidence as a way of going forward – they’ve conducted experiments knowingly or otherwise (regarding covid only), and the evidence / results do not support the hypothesis. Evidence based scientists are being excluded.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  texluh

This is what we need to remember, whenever we read anything in the press. The BBC and other outlets have been ‘gaslighting’ us (sorry to use that term but I couldn’t think of an alternative) to make us think that it is ‘normal life’ that is a dangerous experiment, while ‘lockdowns’ obviously work – it’s common sense, isn’t it? Just like it’s ‘common sense’ that masks must reduce transmission of respiratory pathogens.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Head brick wall banging.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Indeed. Sometimes it is necessary to retreat in a war, even an implausible ‘war on covid’. The lack of retreat just means all this theatre is masking a deeper agenda.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  JeremyP99

Very mature.

cornubian
4 years ago

I’m amazed that ‘sceptics’ are actually debating the supposed pros and cons of the regimes unending authoritarian diktats as if these ministerial utterances and governmental ordinances are actually a bona fide response to a health crisis. Face facts. Our society has been transformed into an open air prison with chimps running around in medical-looking masks believing that if they acquiesce to all the lies and take all the experimental drugs their oppressors will set them free.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

They also believe that having an apartheid app on your smartphone will somehow ensure that you do not breathe in airborne virus particles. That is some amazing app!

They also believe that a vaxxed person, who has tested positive and is sneezing, coughing and sputtering on everyone around them, cannot spread the virus that is in every sneeze and cough, but that an unvaxxed person were zero symptoms and a negative test will put them at risk of dying just by looking at them. Cognitive dissonance is the real pandemic.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

That’s it. That’s what we should call it. The Apartheid App. Brilliant!

And I agree with the rest of your comment too.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Yes, it is most apt. But I can’t take credit for it, I saw it in a comment on DS yesterday, so someone else came up with it. I’d say who, but I honestly can’t remember who said it first, just that it wasn’t me.

The alliteration is catchy and I think it might help it to sink in more with people who think it’s just a qr code on your phone, what’s the big deal.

Barbara Baker
Barbara Baker
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

‘‘Twas me …. long ago experience of actual apartheid sadly- really don’t want to experience it again🤯

Barbara Baker
Barbara Baker
4 years ago
Reply to  Barbara Baker

And yes, it does make people stop and think sometimes

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

AppArtheid

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

And quite a few are making a profit out of it.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  cornubian

 “an open air prison with chimps running around”

Brought this to mind… nothing at all to do with Covid, but excellently made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpW5vmeizCg

RickH
4 years ago

Is it really worth looking at the ‘infection’ data? Is it really worth going further than some updated graphs to confirm what we already know beyond any reasonable doubt?

… or to know that the whole sorry business has nothing to do with reality?

RTSC
RTSC
4 years ago

This has nothing to do with a virus.
The EU has had plans for a vaccine passport for at least 5 years. As this timeline for introduction shows, 2022 is the date for a universal vaccine passport in the EU. The pro-EU British Establishment has obviously decided that we will be part of it ….. regardless of Brexit. This is about digital ID; monitoring of populations and control.
https://ec.europa.eu/health/sites/default/files/vaccination/docs/2019-2022_roadmap_en.pdf

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  RTSC

Soviet Israel showing the world how to really screw its own population – people who were tricked into believing Israel is a sanctuary for them. I met a woman today who fled from there to come here because of the vaxxpass. Horrifying times. Rise up now. This whole agenda is complete bullshit and the purveyors are nothing but criminals

Israel Launches Positive PCR Test GPS Surveillance Grid, Citizens With High Spreader Scores Punished
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ajsjfV92SLdI/

Catee
4 years ago

Is there Any Evidence that the New Lockdown Measures will Work?..

Of course there effing isn’t, hasn’t been over the last 21 months so why would there be now?

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago

The author is still not drawing the most frightening conclusion from these figures – that masks cause Covid. They are the missing link which turns a mostly moderate virus into a disease, and a lethal one at that.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul_Somerset

Yes, I’ve been wondering about that since the first mandate. Strangely, no-one seems interested in studying it, despite prior warning and sound logical reasons why it could happen.

FrankiiB
4 years ago

Prepare for cases of starvation, due to panicked restrictions.

Omicron is nothing to worry about. Pingdemic II, Test and Trace due to over testing could quickly see the whole country in isolation for 10 days. That will have severe impact on food supplies.

Great planning, Boris. Probably law and order disturbances if we get to that.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankiiB

People who do essential things like drive lorries and delivery vans and collect the rubbish don’t get to hide behind the sofa. That’s reserved for digital communications managers, EDI officers and other such jobs…

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankiiB

Serco and Mitie are the virus.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

If course they will work, they will achieve the goal of destruction for the sake of destruction.

David101
4 years ago

There is no discernible logic to any of these measures if looked at from the vantage point of assuming our government and those corporate elite atop the pyramid have the best interest of the nation at heart. Assuming this will only leave one scratching their head forever. However, logic can prevail with perseverance. I would strongly encourage “George Santayana” to carry out this exact same study (comparing like with like over the same periods) once “Plan B”, C, or whatever has had time to take effect, to see if it actually has. Lets say that England decided to implement Plan B, rendering its severity of restrictions about level with that of Scotland and Wales. At this point, extrapolating from Santayana’s results, we would then expect England to then perform worse than it had been, and start to track the graphs for Scotland and Wales more closely. Nothing accomplished there. Let’s hope that from then on, the three nations (plus possibly Ireland too) implement and release restrictions (or increase or decrease their severity) asynchronously, because if they do, then similar comparative studies can be done similar to the above to get a better picture of what the real effect of increasing… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  David101

similar comparative studies can be done similar to the above to get a better picture of what the real effect of increasing restrictions is”

Well, there have been available comparisons since the start of this Big Lie, all of which point to all of the measures being useless or worse, and they have all been ignored. What we need is not more evidence, what we need is some powerful private and public bodies to put weight and money behind getting that evidence out in a simple message to counteract the relentless lies people have been fed.

John Dee
4 years ago

Top pic: ‘Fat Bloke Demonstrates The Size Of The Whopper He’s Just Told’.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

Had a phone call from a friend in England today.
She said Boris wants everyone to wear face masks but they can’t make people do that!!
I asked if she wears a face mask in the supermarket.
She said yes.
I said, well there you go, then.

Star
4 years ago

How can there be “evidence” that something will happen in the future?
Why TF do so many people want to wrap what they say in “scientific” clothes?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Well I guess the evidence would be if you’d tried it before and it was seen to work. But as we know, none of this has been seen to work, and the claims that it did work are at best using modelling projections rather than actual data as the baseline.

isobar
4 years ago

 BBC News: Covid: Vaccinated contacts in England told to take daily rapid tests https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-59628609 Extracts below describe how ‘fully vaccinated’ people can evade self isolation by daily testing, but this does not apply to ‘unvaccinated’ people unless they can provide medical proof for not having been ‘vaccinated’  ‘Fully vaccinated people in England who are close contacts of Covid cases will be told to take daily lateral flow tests for seven days from Tuesday.’ ‘Those who test positive, develop symptoms, or are unvaccinated should self-isolate for 10 days.’ ‘But people will not need to isolate if the tests remain negative and they have had at least two vaccine doses.’ ‘Unvaccinated adults are not eligible for this new policy and must self-isolate for 10 days if they are a contact of a positive coronavirus case – whether Omicron or not. ‘  ‘But daily testing does apply to people who can prove they are unable to be vaccinated for clinical reasons.’ Wasn’t it the Fat Pig Dictator himself who recently said that being ‘vaccinated’ doesn’t prevent you being infected or passing the virus on? If that’s the case, which it is, why are those that choose to be ‘unvaccinated’ not eligible for this… Read more »

LonePatriot
LonePatriot
4 years ago

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olaffreya
olaffreya
4 years ago

I have been following the real science for ages – so totally ignoring the nonsense spewing out of the Government (?) and MSM.