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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Peking Piffle calls for national debate on mandatory ‘vaccination’ “.

I call on a national debate for Peking Piffle to go on trial for crimes against humanity.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Just when the US mandates start falling apart, and Austria and Germany are finding out how difficult to impossible they will be to implement in practice.
My advise to him, beyond the usual GFY etc. is: don’t go there, if you don’t want to have to make another embarrassing U turn again.

chunky lafunga
chunky lafunga
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Hi JB could you elaborate on your Austria/Germany point at all, i.e. what is the basis for that? Not being a dick, scouts honour, it’s just that have you read that Lithuanian guy’s experience he’s being documenting (https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1456627584586944514.html) they seem to have rolled out their apartheid there pretty darn well, and I feel awful for that chap and others being oppressed to that extent. Do you think it’s because of the size of the respective countries (Lithuania population about 2.6m)?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Now and then local authorities will allow a debate ‘consultation’ about a proposed new road scheme which, not only does every driver know will create havoc, they have already decided to implement.
One such debate, about an attempt to lessen the negative impact of a much wider scheme, was advertised in the local press as taking place giving the previous days date.

I pointed this out to a couple of people who reacted with
“blimey, that’s strange, did you see Eastenders . . ?”

HumanRightsForever
HumanRightsForever
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yup. No one really cares, as long as they can mind numb with online shopping and series watching. That’s where we’re headed: sitting at home, consuming and waiting for the end. Sorry if I’m pessimistic today, it’s just the newest development dragged me down a bit. It will pass: I grew up in communist regime, nothing can break me.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

someone has Boris on a Dually headcollar

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

His national debate is a domestic abuser blaming his victims for his locking them down.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Judge orders 11-year-old girl to be ‘vaccinated’ despite father’s objections”.

Is there no limits to the evil of these people?

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago

The Scots, who have dutifully worn masks all year in all settings now have their reward. Postpone their Christmas parties/get togethers with loved ones until ‘some time’ next year. The Twelfth of Never perhaps? Maybe, if they’re lucky there will be a couple of weeks in the summer when they can ‘celebrate Christmas’ with loved ones, at arm’s length, outdoors.. They voted for Sturgeon so maybe they deserve it. But many did not. But where is the FUCKING RESISTANCE?

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

We lost our Easter in 2020 and told to celebrate at Christmas instead. Then Christmas was stolen so “celebrate at Easter instead” Still locked down then (if anyone was still complying) and.told yet again to celebrate at Christmas. And here we are again….Happy deja vu!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

No longer being a Christian I did not feel the loss of the religious aspect of Chistmas or Easter but noted the irony if folks spending the Bank Holidays in lockdown.
This year, of course, the English Xmas Bank Holiday extends over 4 days. Enjoy folks.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

The SNP has never, not a single time, won a majority of votes in either kind of parliamentary election in Scotland. That said, your final question is very sound and apt.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

It’s not about votes, as electoral systems are now rigged. It’s really about whether people are going to put up with being treated like pieces of sh*t by governments which are totally beholden to ultra wealthy depopulators. You can’t use a crooked system to fix a crooked system.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Agreed.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Agreed, especially when the Opposition doesn’t even pretend to oppose.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

No UK government has ruled on the basis of an absolute majority of votes since at least the beginning of the 20th century, with possible exception of inter-war and WW2 coalitions.

For Andy’s final question, the answer is not at the ballot box. Our best course of action is probably to follow the examples of the Suffragettes and Suffragists.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

In the eighties there were real Scots who sent Thatcher’s poll tax on the scrap. What a set of pussies they now are.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

We English have not yet had the opportunity to show what a set of pussies we now are.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

That’s what I keep wondering – where is the spirit to say No and to fight for what is right? My entire family just rolled over and are on their third jab. They don’t even know why or ask why. They think their arms going completely numb and useless is normal ffs!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

The Scots had the opportunity to vote for a party other than Labour, what a waste.

Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

not so Mr Pandy. I’m a Yorkshire refugee living north of the border and haven’t worn a mask at all. Unperforated, ignored all the restrictions, never locked down. All it needs is a simple I do not consent or comply and I do not recognise your authority.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

Fellow Yorkshireman also not pandering to any nonsense whatsoever🫖 ✊

thefoostybadger
thefoostybadger
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

You wan’t to have a wee think about your broad brush generalisations mate. I have pointed out before on this site that more people vote against Sturgeon than for her.

No member of my family have “dutifully” worn masks; or clapped, avoided loved ones etc, etc.

Maybe next time something unpleasant happens to you, I’ll pop up and insult you by saying you deserve it.

Idiot.

HumanRightsForever
HumanRightsForever
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy
HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

“Prime Minister reluctant to consider compulsory jabs but wants talks on how to boost uptake, saying U.K. cannot keep introducing restrictions indefinitely”

Bit like saying that broken legs should be amputated…because crutches and walking sticks can’t be used forever.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Exactly.

“We can’t keep imposing NPI’s” says our top clown and “disrupting people’s lives.”

I’ve got a solution Bozo – don’t impose ANY NPI’s then, they don’t work. Just call this whole thing off and some of us will try to reinstate our country. And when we have done that we will decide your fate.

PS. It won’t be pretty.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Stop testing, withdraw unsafe pharma, treat symptoms early & give the vulnerable the option & support to isolate themselves & live your life.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Or maybe test the over-60s who develop serious respiratory symptoms.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

You got an accurate test in mind?

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

D Dimer test for DVT/capiliiary clotting/ inflammation. – too small to show up on other testing regimes; Dr Ryan Cole started to do this (his medical peers in the US too I understand) and found alarming elevations post jabs.

Background can be followed here:

https://www.pulsetoday.co.uk/news/clinical-areas/neurology/gps-to-do-blood-tests-for-non-acute-suspected-covid-vaccine-thrombocytopenia-patients/

and most importantly, here:

https://www.nice.org.uk/guidance/NG200

Now is it not strange that the NICE guidance does not appear to have got a lot of MSM coverage – call me a Baby Boomer cynic if you like – but just like a lot of revelatory “factlets” – such as the recent disclosure by two NZ Doctors of the deliberate skewing, admitted to be exactly so by the CDC, of post Pfizer EUA mandated trials into pregnant women who are jabbed, to massively understate the incidence of miscarriage within the first 20 weeks (originally stated to be ~12%, but in fact >82% of the tested cohort for miscarriages which can only occur in the first 20 weeks otherwise these sad events are denominated “stillbirths”) – this does not fit the Number 10/Carrie/Cabinet Office/SAGE etc driven narrative…does it?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

As should have been done after 2-3 weeks Squitting on the Sombrero

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Plus spend the money saved on Thwack and Thrace buying billions of Vit A, B, C, D, plus Zinc Magnesium Potassium Quercetin Turmeric Ginger….. …..Ivermectin, HCQ and current monoclonal antibodies – treat folks who get it early, day one, and only admit to Hospital once early treatment fails, rather than allow someone’s blood oxygen levels to drop to dangerous levels ( isn’t that called allowing viral load to spiral , or in other words fucking stupid) and put highly infected people with no ear intervention into a setting where loads of infections have occurred.

But then, “Vitamins don’t work”….I wonder which part of the pharmaceutical crime family sponsored that “Fact Check” world class insightful reporting?

CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2021/12/stunning_facebook_court_filing_emadmitsem_fact_checks_are_just_a_matter_of_opinion.html

Fact check = ‘protected opinion’:

“…Meta’s attorneys assert that the “fact check” was an “opinion,” not an actual check of facts and declaration of facts….So-called “fact-checking” is a fraud used to cover up the censorship of
opinions that that differ from those of the powerful Silicon Valley
oligarchy.  
And now we have proof attested to in a court filing by one of the richest companies in the world, represented by some of the most elite lawyers in the world.”



Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

My mate taught me to tie a hangmans knot when I was a kid. I’m a little rusty but a few necks will get me warmed up nicely.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

A hangman’s knot is designed to kill quickly to prevent unnecessary suffering, I want them to suffer, so a granny knot will do.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

After several hours spent in the public stocks, a penalty that is still on the books apparently.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

I said it yesterday, its politicians manufacturing a typical catch 22 in an attempt to scape goat the public for their disastrous management of health care.

Its, lockdowns vs mandatory quarterly vaccines, the only options THEY put on the table, to enrich themselves & their cronies. NO cock-up about it, it’s criminal.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

It’s not just criminal it is purposely genocidal.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I spent 6 Months following Lockdown Proper last year wondering WTF carrying on with Lockdown Lite and then Tiers was all about.
That was with the advantages of not being exposed to the MSM (much), not being personally affected by lockdown and being able to chat about it here at lockdownsceptics and the many people I came into contact with as an out and about key worker.

It took a while to stop dismissing crazy conspiracy theories about social control and Big Pharma profits, at the very least.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

If he genuinely doesn’t want to use restrictions then it is very simple: don’t. I’d also advise him to read up on how leaky mRNA works and hope he realises that constant boosters are now in place forever.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Very good HelenaHancart.

Last year bozo was “reluctant to consider limiting family and friends time together at Christmas”.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

He doesn’t remember what he said 5 minutes ago, have a heart!!

On second thoughts, you steam right ahead – go for the thrombotic, S1 spike protein invaded jugular.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

If I could be bothered to dignify that conversation he wants to have with a response I would start with the Lancet study which demonstrates that covid is spreading in the vaccinated. Ergo what is the point of having a jab? He himself went on national TV and said “it doesn’t stop you getting covid or spreading it to other people”.

But that would then credit the whole shit show with some kind of medical validity, which I don’t want to do.

So my response would simply be 3 words. My. Bodily. Autonomy.

I was born to 2 parents not the state. Until I got to age of majority they consented to medical treatment on my behalf. As an adult I get to make those decisions – not the state.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“The failure of spiritual and religious leaders”.

Meanwhile, here is a link on the “vaccines” provided by one religious leader – they’re not all bad.

lumenfidei.ie/conscience-vaccines

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago

Excuse me, but what has happened to the ‘I will not comply’ people, who barely a week ago were saying enough is enough, I’m going to live as normal from now on, you can stuff your masks etc.. Not blaming people on here but the country appears to have collectively gone full panic mode, and we are back to masks outdoors when there is no one else around, lone drivers in masks, old people shuffling to the supermarket looking like they about to drop dead in fear, and doing a dance to avoid going within 2 metres of another person. I don’t wear a mask, because unless some people resist this bullshit it is going to be forever. And that ain’t the norm.

CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

The masses are asses. That’s all I can think of now.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

The wearing of masks above and beyond what they believe to be legally required is inexcusable but anyone hoping to cheat their way out of digital Track’n’Trace this time is probably going to be disappointed.

If a venue is not permitted to allow entry to those who cannot prove fully vaxxed status then they ain’t getting in.

No signing in as Donald Duck, 1 Westminster High Street; vaccines.fail@gmail

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

I go around the supermarket maskless and my local supermarket (lidl I like the prices) and most of the staff aren’t wearing it either.

FrankFisher
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

I see plenty of unmasked people in shops. I’m not wearing one, as much to encourage others as anything.

HumanRightsForever
HumanRightsForever
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

People are getting broken by the psychological tricks that have been directed at us: it’s a war on minds, isn’t? A lot of misery, a scrap of hope-and like this intermittently forever. I was headed to Xmas dinner: half of guests cancelled because they had positive test. They all followed the advice to take the test BEFORE leaving home… Would you imagine something like that in January 2020? A test that decides for you if you can leave your house…..! Meanwhile, in certain country people live with their phones telling them if they can go to work or come back home. How far did we get in a year, hah?…..

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

Spot on – the governments are waging psychological warfare on the people, slowly grinding them down with their relentless solid wall moving approach. The thing is that their whole narrative is a complete lie and is based on fraudulent science, sleight of hand, intimidation and coercion. There is no justification for anything they are doing on any level. Even if you give them the benefit of the doubt, that they implemented these things for honest reasons – which I do not believe at all – but if we give them that benefit of the doubt, all we are left with is a bunch of extreme measures which produce zero benefits but which cause enormous harm. They frame it like this is the ONLY option, but thats another lie. There are many viable options, the best of which is to draw a line under this and dismantle this criminal fraudulent deceit ridden antihuman agenda. There is no justification for destroying our lives and the culture of this country in the face of what is openly admitted to be a low mortality rate virus, which when we drill down deep, may not even exist and is certainly not noticeable in society and… Read more »

Otacon
4 years ago

What the government are doing to the people really is no different to how most cults operate:
1 – Separate people from their families and friends. Basically anybody who might provide a contradicting opinion
2 – Blast them with constant propaganda
3 – Guilt and shame anyone who dares even think about going against the narrative

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

A satirical pandemic version of Fairytale Of New York its worth listening to.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

You’ll need a laugh after reading this Ministers draw up proposals to reintroduce masks in all indoor spaces, scanning in to pubs and restaurants and vaccine passports for more venues in the New Year – while PM continues to fight off rebellion from dozens of Tory MPs over Plan B plan B hasn’t even started, already its sliding into plan C.

  • Even tighter restrictions are being drawn up to tackle the spread of the Omicron variant
  • Top of list is reintroduction of rules requiring hospitality venues to collect the contact details of all customers 
  • PM announced Plan B restrictions for England on Wednesday including masks and work from home orders
  • Tories and business have vented anger that the curbs do not make sense and will hammer struggling sectors
  • Sajid Javid insisted that the move is proportionate given the threat from the fast-spreading Omicron strain

All for a common cold.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Fat man not reaping what he sows It’s time to punish Britain’s five million vaccine refuseniks: They put us all at risk of more restrictions, says ANDREW NEIL. So why shouldn’t we curb some of their freedoms? I’m stunned for words at this man’s idiocy, why is he allowed out of the care home?

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

There was a sense of safety in knowing that all the other diners had proved themselves to be fully vaccinated

Of course, it’s not foolproof. Nothing is. People who have been vaccinated can still contract and pass on the virus.

I still struggle to comprehend the absolute idiocy of these people.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

They’re not even pretending it’s about health any more, it’s about punishment.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Not so much punishment, more about control accompanied by coercion; punishment comes later.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

Indeed. It is staggering that this guy says that we are the ones who suffer from stupidity.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

Examples too numerous to list of fully vaxxed and isolated groups infecting each other.
Australian gym 1-2 months ago that had to close after 15 fully vaxxed caught it off each other.
The press tried to blame the unvaxxed for sneaking in surreptitiously.

HumanRightsForever
HumanRightsForever
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

“It’s just three weeks”
“It’s just a little prick”
”It’s just a minor inconvenience”
”It’s just so we can separate people who don’t listen to the orders, punish them and put on the margin”
”In just so every single one of you left will not know how to live because everything is going to be decided for you, from birth to death”
”It” just takes a little step at a time…

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Thanks for this link. So Andrew Neil may be suing Jennifer Arcuri but where the government’s fight against the resistance is concerned he’s hardly at loggerheads with Boris Johnson. There are still 5 million unvaccinated British adults, who through fear, ignorance, irresponsibility or sheer stupidity refuse to be jabbed. In doing so they endanger not just themselves but the rest of us. Andrew Neil overeats, doesn’t get enough exercise, and boozes. Just look at the picture of the guy. His BMI could easily be 35. And that’s somebody else’s fault other than his own? He writes: There is something very unBritish about compulsory vaccination. I don’t understand how you’d do it in a free society. Are we really going to round up the unvaxxed, strap them to a chair and stick needles in their arms against their will? Yes, that’s what forced injection means. What else does anybody think it means? You will also have to hunt us, you will have to shoot some of us, and you will have to allocate resources to protecting yourselves, because some of us will seek actively to obstruct your achievement of your goals, using legitimate force. I like this bit: But the over… Read more »

Winston Smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Heydrich = Neil

He needs to be dealt with.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Winston Smith

He’s dealt with himself, his career is down the pan. Luckily for him he won’t have to face the contempt and derision from his fellow journoes since there won’t be any Xmas soirees to go to, allegedly.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Sneaky way he implies that it’s the unvaxxeds own fault if the have to be unBritishly forcibly injected because they would not allow it voluntarily.

Lucan Grey
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

In doing so they endanger not just themselves but the rest of us.

It’s this lie that is the worst. The current set of vaccines do not inhibit transmission by any significant degree. If they did then we would not be seeing the case levels we are.

Arguably the unvaccinated may endanger themselves, since they are more likely to die of Covid without a vaccine, but they can’t endanger anybody else if the vaccine works as advertised. The vaccine protects against severe illness and death.

It’s such a self-contradictory statement. Amazed that Andrew Neil falls for it.

TheTartanEagle
TheTartanEagle
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

The flaws in his position are:

There is no evidence of a deadly pandemic.

The so-called vaccines don’t work, and worse than that they sicken and kill people.

Forced medical treatment is unethical.

He’s put himself on the list of war criminals. Well done, sir, hope you get time to savour your future.

chunky lafunga
chunky lafunga
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

“By all means exercise your rights. But beware of the consequences”

Michael Corleone: Well, when Johnny was first starting out, he was signed to a personal services contract with this big-band leader. And as his career got better and better, he wanted to get out of it. But the band leader wouldn’t let him. Now, Johnny is my father’s godson. So my father went to see this bandleader and offered him $10,000 to let Johnny go, but the bandleader said no. So the next day, my father went back, only this time with Luca Brasi. Within an hour, he had a signed release for a certified check of $1000.
Kay Adams: How did he do that?
Michael Corleone: My father made him an offer he couldn’t refuse.
Kay Adams: What was that?
Michael Corleone: Luca Brasi held a gun to his head, and my father assured him that either his brains or his signature would be on the contract……. Thats a true story.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

For a moment, I was staggered that members of his inner circle and the Cabinet do not/have not seen straight through the inept contradictory “rools” – but, after all, they all cannot see through the mirage of “The Kings new clothes”…and the I thought, they don’t give a shit.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Read the comments? Neil is a busted flush and the readers know it.

Sadly too many comments are about getting rid of bozo because of sleaze but that won’t alter any of the government’s mismanagement.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Methinks he should have stuck to the day job…but then again look what happens when Dr H Jones does that.

Out of the mouths of …..

TheApesOfWrath
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Andrew needs to get back in the good books after he went to GB News, he’ll say anything they want if they promise to let him back in the club.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

All for a common cold.

It’s also about the control and murder of their own citizenry. Jail is too good for these people.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

The open and admitted by everyone deaths caused in direct conflict between the government and the resistance look set to start quite soon, whether in Austria, Germany, or the French Caribbean. I am trying to find out what happened to the resisters who were shot by the police last month in Rotterdam.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

A striking resemblance..

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karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

As an out and about key worker I wasn’t much affected by lockdown last year, I was still meeting interesting people face to face but missed not being able to lunch out when working and spent my evenings, as I usually do, indoors enjoying my own company.
When pubs and cafes reopened I quite brazenly gave falls pencil and paper Track’n’Trace details.

This time it won’t be that easy but, hey ho, I’m more or less medically* housebound and have been since March so their restrictions will again mean sweet FA to me personally.

* various things, none anything to do with Covid and all pre vaxxes.

zners
zners
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

the narrative is almost a copy paste of the Indian Variant released at the same time last year. Unluckily for the BBC I don’t think South Africans cremate their dead in the open.

TheApesOfWrath
4 years ago
Reply to  zners

“People in India are gasping for breath and dying with terrible fevers and headaches”. Maybe something to do with the massive open air cremations taking place in city centres, or dumping corpses in the same river they swim in and drink from? Just a thought.

Old Maid
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

It’s not for a cold, though, is it? It’s because they now know that the jabs are likely to have completely wrecked people’s immune systems, hence the need to re-jab on a regular basis. Otherwise all those jabbed are going to fall like ninepins once they get any germ whatsoever. I can think of no other reason why they’re panicking so much.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The judges belong in jail.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

On the list he goes: Michael John Fordham. Became a High Court judge last year. Blackstone chambers.

People right now are in detention without trial, without even a charge, and not only that but they are being made to pay for their detention – and this wretch of a “judge” wouldn’t even allow a case against such detention, such internment, to go forward.

There used to be something called “habeas corpus” in this country.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Scratching my head here but it is against international law to compel detainees to pay for their own detention.
The extreme example being the CCP practise of billing the victims family for the cost of the executioners bullet.

Lucan Grey
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

There’s no such thing as international law, because there is no law without enforcement.

Laws are man-made and man-enforced. What men give, they can take away.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

I take your point but in extremis the guilty can be forced to appear at the international criminal court at The Hague.

FrankFisher
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

What happened to that judicial review of the careworkers vax coercion? I can’t find any follow up on that

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Nobbled – no idea how the Bernician thinks he is going to get ANYWHERE with his private prosecution

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

3 minutes well spent.
“Laughter, the best medicine”
Should be on Yootoob for greater exposure but it wouldn’t survive long there.

Noumenon
4 years ago

Saying “do it or I’ll force you” isn’t providing a choice. We effectively already have mandated vaccinations for this reason.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Saying “do it or I’ll force you” is a crime. 

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

One sympathizes Geronimo DIDN’T have TB: Tests show slaughtered alpaca that captured the nation’s hearts was wrongly put down by the Government… Something he had in common with many covid cases, except most covid deaths didn’t get a postmortem.

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

we need to follow the scientific evidence and cull animals people that have tested positive for bTB covid to minimise spread of this insidious disease and eradicate the biggest threat to animal health in this country.

wouldn’t surprise me.

pre-Boomer Marine brat
pre-Boomer Marine brat
4 years ago

[(This is a re-post of most of a reply to Jon Most at the end of the previous thread.)] I live in a suburb of a US “flyover county” metroplex — between-rather large and damned-huge. In August, I had an annual checkup with my MD, whose offices are in a major hospital complex. Chatting with her staff, and with one of the hospital’s surgical staff in a corridor afterwards, the mood I picked up on was that they too thought the Chicken Little reaction was bull. The hospital (itself part of America’s largest chain) has put a few movement-restriction measures into place (which the internal staff say are half-baked and irrational.) Hanlon’s seems to suggest that immediate profit motive is behind it. The more covid the hospital corporations can detect, the more money they get from the US gov’t. There’s no overcrowding. Some folks are putting off treatments because the panic-demic has frightened them. Our local “news” media is of a tabloid mindset, every one with a LATEST COVID NEWS link front and center on the website. (I began watching the press in the mid-80s, and have known a few Old Guard journalists. Today, the average on-the-street American journalist is… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago

It seems like the US is close to the last rich country on earth that still has some semblance of libertarianism in its culture

karenovirus
4 years ago

There were several examples on yootoob early last year of US Nurse Whistleblowers telling of hospital management deliberately mixing covids with non-covids on open wards with the intention of attracting government funding.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

Yeah, about 38 minutes ago when I posted above 😉

Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Oops! I missed that. Sorry, A_S.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

But TY said it’s just a cock-up….

Star
4 years ago

Here are some extracts from the Daily Telegraph article that is linked to in the header but behind a paywall. (I copied it by going Ctrl-R to reload, Esc while reloading, and then Ctrl-C very fast – had to try several times – to grab the text before the paywall fell on it.) Emphasis added. “Boris Johnson calls for ‘national debate’ on mandatory vaccination to protect UK from Covid (…)”“(H)e said the country could not ‘keep going indefinitely’ introducing restrictions ‘just because a substantial proportion of the population still sadly, has not got vaccinated’.” F***! So the resistance are responsible for emergency government clampdowns now? “(H)e said that if the vaccines are found to be effective against the omicron variant, discussions about how to drive continued uptake may be required.” Sic. Yes you did read that right. ” ‘I don’t believe we can keep going indefinitely with non-pharmaceutical interventions, I mean, restrictions on people’s way of life just because a substantial proportion of the population still sadly, has not got vaccinated,’ he said.” As if “vaccination” and restricted socialisation are the only two ways to strengthen our immune systems. This guy is as full of sh*t as his health secretary.… Read more »

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

“(H)e said the country could not ‘keep going indefinitely’ introducing restrictions ‘just because a substantial proportion of the population still sadly, has not got vaccinated’.”
This is:
-fact-free
-a deliberate lie
-deliberately incendiary and divise and as such:
HATE SPEECH!

FrankFisher
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Just turn off javascript in developer tools to get around the Telegraph paywall.

JayBee
4 years ago

“What we saw yesterday is that authoritarianism is now no longer a last resort where Covid is concerned. It is to be deployed just in case, on a whim, and perhaps for even more ignoble reasons than that.”
Just as us lockdowns opponents predicted from the start.

” No one can say for certain whether Boris Johnson imposed these punishing measures – which one economist believes could cost the economy at least £4 billion a month – purely to distract attention from the No10 Christmas party scandal.”
The most expensive Christmas party/wine&cheese ever.

pre-Boomer Marine brat
pre-Boomer Marine brat
4 years ago

IMHO, the Leviathan Governmental Boot is an outgrowth of that which formed the Council House Culture in the UK, and America’s post-WWII housing projects and LBJ’s Great Society. Look at the words to “Rule Britannia”, and the generalized parenting behavior in your Council Houses. Go look at yourselves in the mirror – we in America have to.

The Sixties mindset was both revolutionary and authoritarian. Anyone who objected to it was demonstrated against. It was and remains, ultimately about “control”. That same attitude underlies the mindset of Donald Trump’s core political base here in the States. Anyone disagreeing with it is a Communist.

Derrick Bell and Herbert Marcuse were ramrod-straight controllers toward everyone who disagreed. They live on, seen in measures being taken to control certain political bases.

IMHO, it’s not about a Cromwellian Leviathan seeking global conquest. It’s merely about ideologues who knee-jerk think they are right. Oxford and Cambridge are synonymous with Marxism. Classical Marxism is dead, but the hunger for power still lies inside individual human souls.

To freely quote American songwriter Billy Edd Wheeler, they have to walk that lonesome valley…

Laurence
4 years ago

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE VACCINE PROGRAMME On the 21st November, 14 days before the last day covered by the latest UK vaccine surveillance report, we passed the incredible target of over 100% of the eligible population above 80 in England being double vaccinated: 2,821,355 out of a total eligible population of 2,814,674 or 100.24%. The first vaccination numbers achieved an even more impressive 103.2% of the population over 80. So the unvaccinated will now be permanently condemned to higher rates of just about anything, as it is difficult to show a lower result with a denominator of zero. I know certain statisticians have been angling for these figures not to be published as they don’t show results in line with their prejudices – maybe a better reason is that they don’t make a huge amount of sense, at least for the older population. On a more serious note, how much damage are we going to do to newborns with further lockdowns and restrictions ? Isn’t it enough that we have damaged their cognitive abilities by around 22%, ruined their educational and social development, completely wrecked their facial recognition skills and most likely damaged their immune systems permanently. All to protect against… Read more »

CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Re: https://odysee.com/@theflyingsorceror:b/Get-this-out-all-over—The-doctor-in-the-interview-with-Joh:1 I’m now 2/3 way through this and there are some excellent points e.g. at random: O’Looney @19m14s …up to 70% of the kids are going to be sterilised and many would die from heart inflammation…. White @27m46s …people after the jab [may] have elevated levels of d-dimer as a result of developing blood clots… they [may] have exertional shortness of breath quite suddenly after having the jab; and what that can lead to is something called [inaudible] hypertension and essentially heart failure… But then White refers @48m27s to 1666 Cestui Que Vie Act ….we are incorporated at birth and traded on the NY SE… no no no no no no No No No No No No No NO NO NO NO NO NO NO!!!! Right there, imo he’s just blown a significant amount of his credibility. Why? Here’s why – I doubt whether any lawyer has ever heard of this and I conjecture that those who have know it is nonsense because it does not represent a fair reading of the provisions of the Act among other things. I quote – again at random – some of many sources for that statement, some (or all) of which sources… Read more »

Mr_Human
4 years ago

The difference between a “conspiracy” and the truth being acknowledged by msm is about 6 months. For those of us that can see, we have been infinitely patient in trying to get through to people, who for the most part have continued to embrace the “ostrich effect” by burying their heads (in their arses, not the sand) and closing their eyes to the tyranny and the mission creep. Actively choosing not to see it. Now we have good morning Britain doing polls on mandatory injections, trying to shape thought, behaviour and actions, then deleting the poll that showed 89% opposed this. Now is the time to make a list of all those complicit in crimes against humanity, including media figures, celebrities (& their twitter rants advocating medical apartheid). Too many are too far gone and cannot be salvaged or redeemed in their stubborn refusal to acknowledge or live in objective reality. Personally, I will still try to reach people each day through 1:1 conversations, with “captured” friends, strangers on the streets and at fresh markets, taxi drivers, people in the service industry and so forth. I will simultaneously be acutely aware of those that cross over the Rubicon from being… Read more »

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr_Human

More on Good Morning Britain removing the poll.

Boris Johnson and the Daily Telegraph, Andrew Neil and the Daily Mail, ITV and Piers (“Even His Friends Think He’s a C***”) Morgan and Good Morning Britain – all part of one campaign.

Mr_Human
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Thanks for the link. Their time will come.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr_Human

We should share notes on what resisters can say that might possibly hook some of the sheeple who have not, as you say, crossed the Rubicon to become kapos, suki, délateurs.

“I do about 10 things every day to keep my immune system strong” is a sentence that might be capable of hooking attention. But mostly I keep shtum nowadays, and sometimes even pretend to have been vaccinated, where my identity is known or could be found out.

Mr_Human
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

When asked “why won’t you take the v@x?”, I alternate between:
1) I am an infidel (stumps them…they say “um….you’re a non believer?” penny drops
2) It’s not my thing (causes nervous laughter)
3) It’s much more dangerous than Covid (segue into selective truth nuggets)
4) Which one? I’ve had many in my lifetime…
5) I don’t want to get Guillian Barre syndrome, or bells palsy, or myocarditis, or die from micro bloodclots, or destroy my immune system and only have 7 years of life before I succumb to antibody dependent enhancement (this answer is reserved only for the cruel, the hostile, the aggressive ones)

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr_Human

I like 1) (LOL) but am now so pissed off I’d be tempted to lead with 5) – not doing anyone any favours now by protecting them from the truth

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Boris Johnson calls for ‘national debate’ on mandatory vaccination to protect U.K. from Covid” – Prime Minister reluctant to consider compulsory jabs but wants talks on how to boost uptake, saying U.K. cannot keep introducing restrictions indefinitely, reports the Telegraph.

I’ll make it simple for British Prime Minster and world-famous Churchill impersonator Alexander Kemal, better known by his stage name Bojo Johnson: We’re not ever getting the gene therapy, ever, under any circumstances, firstly on health grounds and secondly out of political principle. If you force us, those who survive will turn into a kind of French Resistance and repay in kind. Simple enough?

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

What the current crop of deranged, psychopathic, obese gimps who currently sit in parliament are getting wrong when dealing with the British public, is what the police are also getting wrong these days when dealing with the British public.

And that is that these little gimps think they’re in charge of us. YOU’RE NOT. A British person is freeborn and entitled to do as he or she pleases as long as it’s inside REASONABLE LAW. Previous governors have understood this for centuries, except for a handful, Cromwell springs to mind.

To recap. You are NOT in charge of us. You do NOT tell us what to do. You are in the Commons to represent our wishes and you are temporary stewards of OUR freedoms. You do NOT decide if we take experimental drugs or not, for example. Don’t forget we’re the people who built the USA and then threw you out of it for similar abuses. Don’t keep pushing us.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

We’re going to have to have a “national conversation” about how Westminster needs to be totally changed in its entirety. It represents big tech, big pharma and big global government, but not the people. In casually talking about forcing experimental drugs on people who do not want them, it is rotten to the core. Westminster traitors. Westminster tyrants. Westminster murderers. A stain on our history.

And has Rees-Mogg resigned in disgrace yet for mocking the plebs who obeyed the mass house arrest orders he issued? If not, why not?

CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

And it represents primarily the shufflers of monetary tokens, who do not originate wealth – which is rather the product of innate genius, skilled work, and modest but necessary unskilled labour – not something got from visualising without action. Increasingly I believe the real opiate of the controllers is vast monetary wealth and the power kick it gives; they truly have swallowed “ye shall be as gods”.

CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
4 years ago

Sometimes in the deluge of news reports and the sheer emotional drain caused by increasingly (to me anyway) insane and disproportionate Government policy I feel beaten down by an imposed malevolent stupidity which disempowers and ultimately demoralises. Then someone posts a comment or link and a ray of light pierces the gloom for a moment… I guess this could qualify as one such and I’m sure the idea must have been floated before but… if Government is seriously considering making the experimental pseudo-vaxx compulsory, despite all the deaths and injuries caused by it, is it not the time to push for PERIODIC AND COMPULSORY DRUG TESTING FOR ALL MPs, SENIOR CIVIL SERVANTS / ADVISERS and MEMBERS OF THE UPPER CHAMBER? I assume this report is accurate: https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1467456443737645058Disclose.tvJUST IN – Traces of cocaine found near Boris Johnson’s private office and all over sites in the British Parliament.11:30 AM · Dec 5, 2021·Twitter I don’t think I’m particularly woo-prone but my firm impression is that persons who have heavy reliance on recreational drugs often (how often?) seem to lose self-awareness and become somehow influenced by external forces. Dr Shipman (200-300 deaths or up wasn’t it?) was iirc an opioid addict. Many of… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago

Prime Minister reluctant to consider compulsory jabs but wants talks on how to boost uptake, saying U.K. cannot keep introducing restrictions indefinitely, reports the Telegraph.”

Classic tactic – invent a fictitious “problem” which you are responsible for creating, then offer to “solve” it by bullying people into something they do not need and don’t otherwise want to do. And there are still deluded people who think the government is “incompetent”. Their performance in manipulating public opinion and behaviour has been masterful – some of the practical execution may have been shoddy but that doesn’t matter because no-one seems to notice or care much.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The “people” here are not homogeneous. He is saying if you want to avoid a smack around the head, help us beat the shit out of the 10%, giving them the chance to convert first of course, but there will be 1-2% who won’t see sense, and if we suffer them to continue to exist even after they’ve been given the opportunity to mend their ways then we will have to smack YOU around your heads again and you don’t want that, do you?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

I’m gradually trying to make this personal for people I know – whatever their views on covid, if they are in favour of vaxx coercion I make it clear I’m taking it personally and don’t want much to do with them any more. If you’re in favour of oppression, have the decency to look them in the eyes while you’re oppressing them, don’t get someone else to do your dirty work. It probably won’t make any difference.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

If the company you work for made it mandatory to have a not-vaccine would you comply? I’ve thought about this quite a bit, the Company I work for has been, largely, to the letter on Government advice (they are, however, allowing people to work from the office if they choose since The Fat Dictators latest edict).
I would look up employment Law and take that plus, of course, Human Rights Law and the Nuremburg Code to Court with me and claim constructive dismissal. I do not understand why so many have lost their jobs through doing the right thing and then fail to do the right thing by fighting it. Where are the Human Rights Lawyers like Cherie Blair when there is a real breach of human rights?

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

No point looking to human rights to protect you.

European Convention on Human Right, SECTION I, RIGHTS AND FREEDOMS:

ARTICLE 5

Right to liberty and security

(e) the lawful detention of persons for the prevention of the

spreading of infectious diseases, of persons of unsound

mind, alcoholics or drug addicts or vagrants

FrankFisher
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Every human rights NGO is funded by Soros, Gates, Ford, the UN, the EU. They are sitting on their hands, silently. Fucking odious people. Amnesty, HRW, Liberty and scum like that

CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

“claim constructive dismissal”

You didn’t say if you would first resign (and allege it was under pressure – you’d need to prove it) or sit it out and force them to fire you. My primitive understanding (check things out for yourself) is that one must do only the second. Any hint of consensual termination and that’s it, no compensation and no job.
You’ve got to hold the line. Oftentimes you may find it’s really only a game of chicken.
/No advice.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Boris Johnson is a menace to liberty” – The Prime Minister is stuck in a cycle of Covid panic and authoritarianism, writes Tom Slater in Spiked.

One of the great historical ironies is Alexander Kemal’s Churchill obsession, given that the latter fought so hard to resist un-British tyranny and the former has imposed it on the people more than other leader since Cromwell.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Do you really think he’s in charge or controls anything?

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

UK Health Secretary Says “Unethical” Mandatory Vaccination “Will Not Work”

Javid added, “If you’re asking me about universal mandatory vaccination, as some countries in Europe have said they will do, at a practical level I just don’t think it would work. Getting vaccinated has to be a positive choice.”

Remember zahawi saying vax passes or asking for vaccine status, was being discriminatory?

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Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Javid says it would be unethical. He also says it would be impractical. Can we guess what this banker-politician scumbag does when something is unethical but practical?

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

If they can jab me against my will, why can’t I jab them with something sharp against their will? It’s for their own good!

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Million-strong rave planned after govt Covid lockdown Christmas party scandal

A massive rave at Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s residence with over a million potential attendees is being organised on Facebook in protest over an alleged Downing Street Christmas party last year as the country was locked down.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Funny how Russia Today promotes the CIA’s biggest website 🙂

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Would that the whole country partied all night while the dictator raves in a straight-jacket in a police cell in Belgravia.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

“potential” – and who is doing the organising? Downing Street has gates at both ends, a million people wouldn’t fit into Downing Street, and there are lots of policemen to scare them off.
Not happening, nothing to see here.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Million-strong rave planned after govt Covid lockdown Christmas party scandal — RT UK News

You are all invited

Mrs Ceausescu will be doing coffee and teas

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Lord Tyrannus now considering compulsory jabs.

Has he never heard of:

  • Jacques Clement
  • Francois Ravaillac
  • John Bellingham

History does not repeat itself, except for Covid restrictions, right?

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

NEIL: What do you mean, revolution?

RICK: Blood runs! Flags wave! Come on, everybody, throw down your tools and knock down the barricade. Come on, run into the Winter Palace. Run into the Winter Palace and stand on tables, waving bits of paper at each other! Yes! Yes!! Hello, are you the Czar?!

  • [jumps up and down, excited]
  • Yes, I am, actually. [points a finger] Bam bam! Tough luck, fascist!!
  • [Neil takes out a tissue and starts waving it around]
BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

‘When you hurt what’s mine, I’ll sure as hell retaliate’ – Massive Attack

It could anyone, any time, any place.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

There is evil in all this, but also altruism. Some believe that the financial system has come to the end of the road and before collapse which would lead to anarchy and deprivation for millions the ‘reset’ allows for a new system to take its place. This would require more of a control economy and control over the population. These people are convinced its all being done for the best of purposes. Freedom of course is a loser, choice becomes limited. Control is all important. Having returned from ‘freedom Florida’ to ‘prison state France’; its oppressive. But I look at the orderly line of people getting their booster jab at the local pharmacie, they are doing it because they don’t want to lose their ‘passport’ rights, but also in the main because they actually believe its their civic duty. They gladly follow the government instructions mainly because they believe they should in the spirit of Fraternity. How to judge this? Its not ‘black and white’ , its very nuanced. My overriding feeling is that the use of psychological warfare against its own citizens by most countries is evil , whatever the motivations or perceived outcomes. If there was true belief… Read more »

John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

IMO it would be perfectly possible to go back to exchange controls as we had before 1979. These days, your debit card would only give you £50 (plus enormous inflation since 1979) spending money on your fortnight in Greece.

Is this happening because the IMF, World Bank and other jumped-up elite bodies believe that they are now dictating terms to national elected governments?

Mervyn King, the last but one Governor of the BoE, supported Brexit (very unusual for central banks). I found his book on the 2008 financial crash and how to change the banking system hard going; I may try reading it again.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

You don’t have to go back as far as 1979 to find the IMF dictating to the UK government very openly. And the government did as it was told. I think we escaped imposition of exchange controls after 2008 by the skin of our teeth.
Total individual monetary control is the aim of the CBs with their direct digi-currency. We would all have our very own limits imposed centrally. This is not ‘conspiracy theory’ its actively being developed right now.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

It certainly is – but as far as I understand it, it’s nowhere near ready to be rolled out and they haven’t even agreed on a common platform. So why roll out the ‘pandemic’ measure now I wonder. It looks to me like math has caught up them and they are desperate to retain control in a system they can no longer prop up.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Timing is everything. A seamless transition might suit them best, but its incredibly difficult to arrange. So next best is to have a period of upheaval and disruption and then the ‘new deal’ rides to the rescue. Has the advantage of identifying the troublemakers in advance.
Boiling frogs and pulling teeth simultaneously, if that’s not taking the allegories too far.

CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

How refreshing to read – though rarely – a reference to the doing away with exchange controls around the start of the Thatcher era which fact I believe contributed to the later offshoring of much of British industry with all the attendant social disruption and chaos that have followed in its wake. I’ve never studied economics but even at the time I could tell that something momentous had happened.
Control and regulation of the money issue is ultimately behind all of this world disaster.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Some believe that the financial system has come to the end of the road and before collapse which would lead to anarchy and deprivation for millions the ‘reset’ allows for a new system to take its place.’

I’m not sure which one I would prefer. I suppose it’s our job as citizens of Earth to force a third way – truth and reconciliation; the arrest and prosecution of those responsible for the appalling covid deception; an honest global debate about how to rebuild the economic system and a global currency perhaps backed by gold.

But knowing humans, I suspect this process ain’t going to be pretty.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Yes I know its just theatre but I do like to keep up with the plot

(I don’t always pay attention as I tend to keep one eye on the door since the Lincoln thing)

Anyhoooooow!!!. Angels Shithead was one of Nut Nuts people and they did for Angels as soon as the labour pains started

Today they seem to be going after Doyle

Just like to know who’s zooming who, all donations gratefully received

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Angela Stratton’s blub-a-thon and sniff-a-lot-a-thon was rehearsed and staged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21DfJp82WNo

When she got back inside she collapsed laughing at how easy it is to fool the thickies.
She has a new job lined up.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Looking a bit porky round the edges

Too much tucking into the sausage rolls at the parties?

Come on gal, he’ll trade you in if you keep letting yourself go

No man likes to come home to some fat bird who can’t stop crying