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Username1
4 years ago

Just reposting a comment I made a few days ago:
Please purchase a Balaclava
Please wear one when asked to wear a face covering on public transport/supermarket or even better local bank.
They are using psychological tricks on us, so time to fight back in kind!
See if anyone asks you to take off the face covering….because they can’t identify you….

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Some of us already own balaclavas!

A stocking mask is good for a visit to the bank. Viruses can pass through it easily, but they can through ordinary cloth masks too – so it’s a way to make that point.

🙂

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Now that is a grand idea. I’ll forward it when I can.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Here in Germany balaclavas don’t qualify as medical devices. And anywhere in the world, have fun getting banned from various places such as your local supermarket by their house rules based on your clowning in a balaclave (yes, they can ban you from their premises if you make trouble for whatever reason – and it is not you who will decide it, and it was also possible before the pandemic, for a good reason).

Username1
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Thanks for dropping by with your humourless reply 😁

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Yes, you’re right. We mustn’t rock the boat or cause trouble and inconvenience the tyrants. We should just submit to whatever they say.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Ah, he’s in Germany. That explains a lot.
A German joke is no laughing matter, and we’ve got one right here.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

40 plus years ago newly arrived in Santander off the Plymouth ferry I parked my motorcycle, very big by Spanish standards of the day, walked into a bank to get some pasetos(sp?) and immediately two uniformed security guards pointed their pistols at me.

Since it was Easter so still chilly in the morning I was all leathered up with full face helmet and inner nylon balaclava.
It took a few seconds to realise that at 6’2″ in Basque country I might look a bit threatening so gingerly removed my helmet and leather gloves to produce my UK passport after which everything was peace and light especially, as one of the very few English speakers explained, because I was not German.
Being so close to Gurnica Germans were still not popular even then which was a lesson I remembered as I started my tour of the Pyrenees.

This is not intended as a dig at humourless rayc, my very first solo trip abroad was to Germany and very pleasant it was too.

paul smith
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

I remember (because I’m old…really, really OLD) when wearing a mask was illegal in New York.
Now, of course, it’s mandatory.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

How can they ban you if they can’t identify you? You do know, shop owners have no legal authority.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Unless the law has changed recently in UK it is still not the shopkeepers responsibility to enforce mask wearing, only the Police can do that and even then cannot question your claim to be exempt until it gets to Court which it won’t, ever.

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Go away.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Super idea! Beat them at their own game.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

Using a pair of boxer shorts was my first thought back when the the ridiculous idea of using a cloth face covering to ward off The Covid was first touted.
As it happens I’m exempt so never had to test the idea.

I did meet a chap who had initially been trapped in Slovenia at the outset of The Covid there; they went full on Max Mask even though there were few available so people turned to T-shirts and pillow cases to go shopping or for a walk in the park.
Muggers wet dream.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

I’ve thought about making a string vest into a “face covering”

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago

I’m going to see if I have a bit of old net curtain anywhere. Or if I can get hold of a bee keepers hat and veil.

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

“face covering” literally means anything to the letter of the law, some celeb was wearing one out of lace last year lol

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago
Reply to  Username1

All the kids wore one when I was at school. Time for a revival.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

Without wanting to put a downer on things we were making precisely the same jocularities in June of last year (when masks in shops become mandatory) yet here we are back in precisely the same place.

isobar
4 years ago

Some sense from the Daily Fail.

Prof ANGUS DALGLEISH: Why is Omicron variant being treated like Ebola 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10255937/Professor-ANGUS-DALGLEISH-Omicron-variant-treated-like-Ebola.html

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Here’s a stunning analysis of Omicron by Mail Commenter Woke_Voice from that link.

The new strain looks absolutely terrifying, when you compare the pictures the new variant has lots more bits sticking out of it and looks like a much more dangerous germ. FACT”

Tell me that’s not a false flag planted by an anti vax supporter.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Wit ha name like Woke_Voice it’s pretty obviously someone dialling the panicdemic up to 11 for laughs

stewart
4 years ago

The torture of school children mist stop immediately.

Teachers and politicians who call for the muzzling of students should be reported immediately to the authorities as a matter of child protection.

I encourage parents to flood social services and the police if necessary with reports of child abuse.

This must stop. If they won’t stop the system must be made to collapse.

Mark
4 years ago

Yeah, a new strain of covid could be “as dangerous as ebola”. Just like Frank Ulrich Montgomery could be an honest man. But let’s face it, he ain’t and it ain’t.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

To be fair it could be even worse than that!

GroundhogDayAgain
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Ebola eats your flesh, is very transmissible and kills you quickly and in pain. It has a CFR of 25%+, and if you get it you damn well know it. The ‘moronic’ variant has a long way to go to be anywhere near as bad. Throw this idiot’s hyperbole back in his face when his hysterical assessment proves to be hot air….

…but of course, nobody ever goes back to analyse prior media mistakes – just plough-on; most of the idiots are still following.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The guy is an interesting case, he used to be fairly moderate in the beginning of the pandemic, but then suddenly he flipped and has been producing a never ending stream of panic bs since.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Bought and paid for just like most of the others, rentboys the lot of them.
Is Rentgirl a thing or should we just stick with whore for the female variety of sellouts?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Ghislaine Maxwell trial just a coincidence?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

There were quite a few like that. Suddenly realised, either by way of a conscious or unconscious awakening or by having it mentioned to them by influential people, which side of the pandemic bread had all the butter on it, for their funding, career and future prospects.

OliveTrees
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Ha. Curiously, at the same time this was one of the headlines:
Carrot that ‘kills’ Covid
https://news.am/eng/news/674709.html
I don’t know how true it is, but it wouldn’t surprise me if there’s something simple in nature that destroys proteins encased in a lipid bilayer.

OliveTrees
4 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Wait, I should point out that the carrots are, apparently, deadly… so don’t go eating one just to cure your covid 😉

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Since it’s quiet this morning. The idea that eating carrots improves eyesight was put about by the chaps at counter-intelligence during WW2 to hoodwink Jerry about why British night bombing was so, allegedly, accurate.
The real reason was the development of night goggles but that particular piece of wartime propaganda lingers on to the present day, 80 years later.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I thought it was ground looking radar not any image amplification night vision kit

karenovirus
4 years ago

Could well be right but it was definitely Spook psy ops, point is how long the myth has hung about, probably by mums using it to get their children to eat their veggies.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Carrots? You mean ‘donkey food’? I can just see the headlines now: Anti-vaxxers now eating animal fodder to ward off Covid!

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

“Uhh…. What’s up doc?”
Bugs Bunny

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Omicron = The New Ebola ! ? ! Frank Ulrich Montgomery is a bandstanding scaremongering tosser of the first order. Some years BC, I had a casual conversation with Mr & Mrs Professor Infectious Diseases, as you do. From this it emerged that IDs have three main characteristics 1.Propensity to kill its host/victim. 2.Transmission rate. 3.Robustness outside of a living host. Mr & Mrs ID went on to explain that virus (single and plural cf ‘sheep’) do not hate you, they are not out to get you, they do not care, they have no brain to care with, they exist simply to reproduce and have done so since long before more complex life forms emerged. We are merely vessels to further their long term prime directive. 1. Ebola is extremely deadly and will kill most of those that it infects which means that, when confined to its natural source habitat, it soon kills off most of its potential hosts. 2. Ebola is not particularly transmissable, it requires up close and personal bodily contact between humans to pass on 3. Ebola is not very robust outside a host in the absence of which it quickly withers and dies, especially in sunshine.… Read more »

John
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

That was also my understanding of Ebola, which is why it develops and then disappears in a relatively short time.

Trivia:
Apparently in Classical Latin virus is neutral and is it’s own plural, viruses is the anglicised plural, viri(i) was the manufactured plural in the 90’s for computer virus. Alternatively, vira is acceptable and in “modern” Latin it is vira.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virus#Etymology

Jess
4 years ago
Reply to  John

“Apparently in Classical Latin virus is neutral . . . Latin it is vira”

Thanks for this – should help sort hoi polloi from the hoi polloi.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  John

I was just going by what Annie said here some months ago.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You could add the pre-covid panic basic rule that (as a result of the issues you mention) infectious diseases tend to evolve to be more infectious and less dangerous – it’s just a more successful strategy for the pathogen.

Often, when we talk informally about a disease “as dangerous as ebola” (for the purpose usually of discussing hypotheticals), what we mean is one with the virulence of ebola and the infectiousness and persistence of colds and flu’s. A kind of theoretical “worst case scenario”.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I haven’t looked at it yet but that appears to be the subject of the second of todays articles posted after Roundup.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Ritchie2

She said that part of the increased rate of admissions may reflect extra precaution on the part of parents given the new concern about the mutation. A pediatric report due later this week should provide more information.

“People are more likely to admit children as a precaution because if you treat them at home something can go wrong — especially very young children because there is a higher proportion of death,” Jaffat said. 

Nothing-burger then.

Lilacblue
Lilacblue
4 years ago
Reply to  Ritchie2

Better vaccinate those babies, just to be safe.

Adamb
4 years ago
Reply to  Ritchie2

Bloomberg is horrendous, lockdown-loving vaccine fanatics.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Ritchie2

‘Could’, ‘should’, ‘may be’, ‘can’, ‘might’, enough caveats to shake a stick at in that short article.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

In my experience they’re all MSM code for WONT

Lilacblue
Lilacblue
4 years ago

Really struggling to make sense of this. It was totally warped from the start, but the last day or so has been demented. Is the panic real (for them), is something not going to plan? A lot of people seem very rattled.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Lilacblue

To channel Oscar Wilde: they were realising that they were in danger of not being talked about.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Lilacblue

Maybe they realised how close they are to going to trial for crimes against humanity.

Encierro
4 years ago

Portugal probes local transmission of omicron at soccer teamhttps://www.mysanantonio.com/business/article/Portugal-probes-local-transmission-of-omicron-at-16659073.phpEU’s most-vaccinated country, Portugal,announces new COVID restrictionshttps://www.politico.eu/article/portugal-announces-new-covid-restrictions/
The EU could change rules of Covid certificatehttps://www.thelocal.es/20211123/how-the-eu-could-change-its-covid-certificate-for-travel/

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

I would drink a glass of salt water before believing anything in thelocal.es or .anywhere else come to that.

David.in.Italy
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

@K In this case, thelocal.es did a fairly reasonable job, the actual planned EU rules were hinted at here
https://ec.europa.eu/commission/presscorner/detail/en/ip_21_6185

although that helpful Comission press release did let a kitten-out-of-the-bag when it mentioned “the virus can sometimes break through immunity
and I didn’t notice that fact being repeated in much media, anywhere

Encierro
4 years ago
Reply to  David.in.Italy

Thank you posting that. The Local is not so bad as some so called newspapers I could write about here.

Mark
4 years ago

“sjonesy1999  5 hours ago People can someone write me a short statement that I can use at work. They are having a consultation to update the H&S policy. Though they have no plans for mandatory injections they do want to make twice weekly LFTs mandatory. I do not intend on being injected or tested ever. I work for a social housing charity as a Painter of empty properties. Any advice would be appreciated.” Anyone help this fella? Posted to yesterday’s Roundup after it had settled into the dead zone. My first thought is that the guy you want was AwkwardGit, who used to post here last year, but no longer does. Anyone know if he frequents one of the other Sceptic sites? He was red hot on HnS policies (and on hassling local council busybodies generally). I’m not expert in this area, but from my vague recollections of his techniques, one useful tactic is to point out that they will be responsible for any consequences suffered as a result of using the tests repeatedly, and ask them if they’ve carried out an appropriate assessment of the safety of regular LFT testing. Can they prove there will be no long term… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I remember Awkward Git and regret his departure, almost as much as Biker who refined the art of being aggressively rude to its very pinnacle.

Honing in on individual responsibilities is often a good way to get a reaction from local authority bod. Stare at their ID lanyard, write their name down and use it in conversation. Can be quite intimidating without being illegal

Sorry but your link produces as attached on my Android browser.

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Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Was only a link to the original comment. Not sure why it isn’t working – perhaps a copy/paste error.

https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2021/11/28/news-round-up-264/#comment-649233

sjonesy1999
sjonesy1999
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Ok thanks. I will put together something. We have been back to work since May 2020 and now they want to introduce this to keep me ‘safe’. I have had words already stating my views but am as usual fixed with the 1000 yard stare.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  sjonesy1999

If you want the real good stuff, see Julian’s post where he tells you where Awkward Git can be found, in the Reddit group.

I have a personal dislike of Reddit (the setup, not the sceptic group there) so I don’t go there, but nothing stopping you doing so.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

AwkwardGit still posts here: https://www.reddit.com/r/LockdownSceptics/ where a lot of those who used to post on DS before the “toxic swamp” incident have gone. It’s worth posting the question there in the top comments section which is created daily (previous comments remain accessible too).

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I would simply state the fact that I have serious conscience issues regarding the entire Covid health policy and I feel compelled not to co-operate with any of it. We regularly hear statements (e.g. around Poppy Day) that if more people had resisted various elements of Hitler’s tactics, things would have been different. It may sound extreme, but that is how dictatorships take hold, by removing or restricting our freedoms bit by bit. In conscience (I would say) I cannot risk assisting in what appears to me to be a power grab by politicians, an attempt to switch from democratic governance to a system of governing by diktat.

By the time you’re finished, they’ll be worn out and say “OK, fine…” (smiley face if I new how to post one on Disquis!)

Mark
4 years ago

Always nice to track panickers’ public assertions and see how they stand up.

https://twitter.com/Kateandtheboys/status/1465396909607202817

How’s that one going for you Tom?

Harwood.jpg
TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

0 out of 3, but he’s now re-modelled reality and gets 3 out of 3 correct.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

“Lockdown looms and our liberties are in tatters” – We have normalised the extraordinary and let fundamental British values be trampled by Covid, writes Tim Stanley in the Telegraph.

As with so many historical events, it takes large shocks to the system to see things the way they are. Since the dawn of the internet age, unpleasant people have been using it to undermine the nation-state and create what they see as a borderless utopian world but is in fact a totalitarian nightmare surveillance state. Those same people have mercilessly exploited the coronavirus pandemic to further their agenda, with help from their little pet monkeys in various governments and also various ignorant gimps in the media.

Now, the agenda is clear for all to see and it’s decision time. Do you want to leave a democratic nation-state based on your ancestors’ traditions, to your children, or a Chinese Communist style surveillance grid and permanent prison lockdowns? Be under no doubt, this time in history is even more critical than the 1940s for the future of this world.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Sorry Horse, your ancestors’ traditions were left behind long ago. That’s why tptb are able to pull off this scam.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

They can pull off the scam because of the gimps they own in the media. End that, and it all comes down.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Times muppets?

Oliver Wright probably does know better of course, but doesn’t appear to be let loose on big pharma corruption these days.

In fact, have any of the msm reported on corruption in the pharmaceutical industry lately? Certainly you used to get something coming up every so often.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

It may only be a hiccup in history but thus far the ‘pandemic’ has done little to help the cause of an Ever Deepening Union for the EU.
Cracks are appearing around the edges and at member-member borders.
No doubt Ursula will find an excuse to introduce a new raft of laws to drag everywhere back into line.

As to the rest of your accurate observation, I’m just pleased I haven’t left any children to live In the f*cked up world created by the internet generation.

It must have been more than five years ago when an older teenager said wistfully to me
“I wish I’d been born before smartphones, there’s just no getting away from them”.
He was just talking about a girl not taking no for an answer, I wonder how he’s getting in in the big wide world of mass monitoring and tracking?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Hence the german push for even more “federalism” onto the peoples of Europe (i.e. german control VIA the EUSSR bureaucracy)

Teddy Edward
4 years ago

Useless Cunts I’m on the verge of pulling my Boy out of School.They gave him a yellow exempt badge last year that went in the bin followed by a strongly worded phone call to a useless waste of protein.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Other schools doing the yellow badge thing too?! You’d think they’d know better.

UNGEIMPFT

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

Home-schooling is a must now, for parents who wish to protect their children from an awful lot of evil, including the health propaganda.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Epidemiologists have already said that Omicron has the potential to be massively infectious, displacing Delta and inducing robust, long-lasting, broad-spectrum natural immunity with just mild symptoms.

Meanwhile, war criminal Sajid Javid stands up in the Commons and tells people injections will now be given out every three months, due to the appallingly short length of time Dose 3 protects for, or ubermensch status will be revoked.

Get the courts and jail cells ready.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

‘Omicron will displace Delta with massively infectious version with only mild symptoms’.
Yeah, I read about virus doing that in ‘O’ Level Bioligy. It’s how they fade away, usual timescale too, 18 months to 2 years.

Can we change the channel now please ?
Brixits had its final Season; nobody’s interested in climate change, bored to death after 30 seasons on BBC and Netflix.

Find something new for us to worry about.
The terrorism Channel has been a bit quiet recently, see if they’ve got anything new.

Jess
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The Royal Family Channel is always babbling on, for them wot wants it.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Germany shuts down nuclear capacity”.

Because of a red-green alliance again, I suppose. The last I heard, Germany were reliant for energy on nuclear dependent France – rather like Britain being reliant on coal burning China. What an utter shambles. These types are going to cause a real energy crisis at this rate, and guess who will suffer.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

A lot of electric power in Germany comes from coal. Loads more than in the UK now. https://www.carbonbrief.org/how-germany-generates-its-electricity Not only that, quite a lot of it is lignite (brown coal); one of the most shitty fuels you can get.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

NHS bosses are scrambling to put the Covid vaccination booster programme “on steroids” after 13 million more people were made eligible yesterday amid a looming wave of the Omicron variant. A million more people a week will be given booster jabs to protect the nation against a threat likened by Jonathan Van-Tam, the deputy chief medical officer for England, to a coming storm.

The Times, 30 November 2021

Chair of the South African Medical Association Dr Angelique Coetzee told Ben Fordham “there’s no reason to panic” based on the evidence so far.

Panic stations it is then. We have a political pandemic to maintain, after all.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

On the bright side it’s still ‘voluntary’

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

For now.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

All the remaining human beings will be in prison, making it the best place to be.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The problem is, once you are in the system as a “criminal”, in confinement, they can pretty much do what they want with you under “health and safety” rationalisations.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Total capacity of Austrias prison estate 8,000 is already overcrowded.
Temporary Alpine ‘camps’ would not look good on Google maps.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Hanging after a short trial needed for those who force injection on people.

Annie
4 years ago

Nice DT comment on Turdgeon’s up-your-nose idea:

“I’d want a rabies test if I met Nichola Sturgeon.”

Aleajactaest
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

or as she was known at Uni, “Seaweed”

Even the tide wouldn’t take her out.

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

As a Scot, I really CAN’T take offence at that…

ThomasPelham
4 years ago

Tom Slater can’t seem to write an article without the inane claim that the vaccine is safe and effective. It’s hugely irritating.

It’d also false, we don’t have long term safety data, and it’s clearly a relatively unsafe vaccine compared to the flu shot. And it’s not wholly effective else why boosters after 6 months?

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

I think they have to say it’s safe and effective. It’s the 2021 equivalent of Heil Hitler. Failure to state it raises serious questions in nasty places.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

“Good morning Horse, before we get down to business what news is there of the fabulous safe and effective vaccines today?”

Something like that?

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

So much for the (false) image of the courageous, ground-breaking, outspoken, investigative journalist. Yeah right.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

From the very outset it was plain even to people like me who have no knowledge about vaccines or testing thereof that claiming there are no long term negative effects had to be a LIE since clearly there had not been any ‘long term’ to measure against.

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You make the assumption that there is such a thing as “common sense” in play here. It ain’t necessarily so, as the song goes.

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

This is exactly the problem with even the alleged best of the commentators in media outlets. They have been fooled themselves by the propaganda so they are of very limited use altogether.

Margaret
4 years ago

The CEO of Moderna says vaccine effectiveness will likely be lower against Omicron variant, “there is no world where the effectiveness of our current jabs is at the same level as against Delta. I think it’s going to be a material drop …..all the scientists I’ve talked to are like….this is not going to be good”. Stephane Bancel.
Not good for whom Stephane? Those who’ve already been triple jabbed or the pharmaceutical companies themselves?

Isn’t this what some scientists were saying at the very beginning anyway? Jabbing during high incidence of a disease can cause mutations to escape, particularly with leaky jabs?

The fact that these jabs focussed on the spike protein and not the rest of the virus, this was bound to happen. Thirty two mutations on the spike protein?

Oh dear, oh dear.

Margaret
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Painter and decorator arrived this morning. The first thing he said to us was, without any prompting, “I wish I’d never had the jabs. I haven’t felt right since”

Stevey
Stevey
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

I’m hearing and reading that more and more.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

O well, here we go again, same old,same old,etc,etc, ad infinitum.
I’m 73 next month and I honestly don’t think that I shall live long enough to see an end to this never ending insanity.

ThomasPelham
4 years ago

I’m 34 and I also doubt that I will outlive the disaster that this government has visited upon this country.

Better a worst case Imperial situation, if I’m honest, than this continued disregard for good governance and our historical freedoms.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

Better a worst case Imperial situation, if I’m honest, than this continued disregard for good governance and our historical freedoms.”

Undoubtedly. At least it would have been over and done with in a couple of grim years, without the long term social, economic, political and cultural harms of the panic response. (Some would argue, of course, that those harms were the objective all along.)

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago

And this is just the beginning of what they have planned for us. Check out Australia.

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago

Obviously I’m not going to wearing a face covering, never have never will. But out of curiosity, does anyone know if this has been rewritten back into law please? I keep seeing it being referred to as mandate, rules etc but have the actually reinstated the law they abolished back into July?

Julian
4 years ago

I can’t find the new law, just this

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own/face-coverings-when-to-wear-one-and-how-to-make-your-own

Which says guidance will be updated soon following change in law from 4am today

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Thanks. I sense a bluff!

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’ve been checking regularly since yesterday and apart from that nothing seems to have appeared. In addition to the link you give, relevant sites are:

https://www.gov.uk/coronavirus

and (for the actual legislation):
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/coronavirus

I’ve had a look on Hansard, and these pages are relevant:
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-11-29/debates/D925097E-3B2F-4E65-9AD0-BEA5A41911AC/Covid-19Update
https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-11-29/debates/4A170B20-B6AB-452C-B4E2-CF280898A753/BusinessOfTheHouse

So far as I can see no statutory instrument has been published, and it’s unclear from the Hansard report whether the new ‘rules’ are actually law today. Telling the public that something has the force of law before it actually does is of course something they have form on from March last year.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

They imposed this “legal requirement” back then, without going through Parliament, without peer-reviewed, scientific studies to PROVE that masks ARE beneficial in a public setting and do not cause harm (hence the exemptions) and by imposing fines to threaten people with they took their compliance as consent. I suppose they’ve just dusted it off and slotted it back in🙄

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Yes morally I don’t feel any obligation to abide by these secondary laws or statutory instruments anyway. I don’t fully understand the legal shenanigans but I know enough to know that new laws should not be passed in that way. As Lord Sumption says, I could’ve coped with them using the Civil Contingencies Act as I think they have to debate it in Parliament every month and prove it’s an emergency.

karenovirus
4 years ago
See DS link in later article, secondary legislation seems a repeat of last summer including piss easy tet out clauses for 'mandatory' mask wearing.
bennyboy
bennyboy
4 years ago

So seeing the lock step panic around the world to this makes me think there are two options:
Medical.
A/. Its an escaped bio weapon and we’re all gonna die.
B/. Its a cover for A.D.E.

Control.
A/. vaccine passports to facilitate great reset/ green agenda.
B/. Massive financial crash and great depression and war with china
C/. This will lead to digital currency.
D/. Sturgeon gets her rocks off on it.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

“Benedict Cumberbatch needs to man up about toxic masculinity”

Let’s be clear, men have always been arseholes, speaking from decades of experience of being a man I can confirm that fact. But the men that are women are still men, which only strengthens my assertion. In general, the women that are women who’ve been as successful as men got there by acting like men (arseholes). I used to prefer the company of women until society became more equal & everyone started acting like arseholes, men & women a like, that may make me sound like a misanthropic arsehole, which to be fair only supports my argument all men are arseholes, including Benedict Cumberbatch with a middle class liberal arsehole name.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The smelly rat for me is that we have groups who criticise generalisations about sexes or races or whatever, but then themselves make generalisations. So their case against generalisations about certain groups is nothing to do with truth or principle, it’s just another case of people thinking it is they who should decide which opinions are acceptable.

Dame Lynet
Dame Lynet
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Bang on the money, Julian.

As ever, it’s an individual’s actions that matter.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Dame Lynet

Identity politics seems like such an obviously bad idea to me, and I believe history agrees with me

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

It always was a disastrous idea. The problem is that there is a Gresham’s Law effect here – the adoption of identity politics by one group makes it necessary to respond in kind or be trampled. This is why most of the social and political effort in this country for a couple of generations has been directed at preventing any such reaction from men, and from whites.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oncomir

Oncomir is also an anagram on Omicron



ImpObs
4 years ago

“The chairman of the World Medical Association, Frank Ulrich Montgomery,
believes that a new strain of the Omicron could become as dangerous as
the Ebola virus,” reports Armenia News.

Comparing cold symptoms to Ebola?

This man clearly needs sacking, this is a whole new level of deranged.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

It IS all theatre, (JHB) but how do we get them to stop? Muzzled slaves serving them, who just do the job without objection, they are unclean while the rest of them are clean enough to mix unmuzzled. What a strange society we’ve become, especially when Charlie is making a point about slaves.

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

No, it’s not “theatre” – it’s about control.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Patricia

I agree it is about control but theatre is being used to bring about the make believe of “playing your part” and “acting like you’ve got it.”

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Yes, but “theatre” is flippant. It does not drive home the fact that we are being controlled and the mask is a visible sign – in the same sinister spirit of the yellow Star of David which the Jews were made to wear in Germany in WWII. Indeed, Julia can’t stop smiling as she says “theatre”. I don’t think it’s funny.

DoctorCOxford
DoctorCOxford
4 years ago

Sorry, never heard of the World Health Association, but anyone saying any variant of Covid could be worse than Ebola is either a mad man or incredibly ignorant. And neither should be in charge of a shoe shine box, certainly not a health organisation.

And Germany what are you thinking? Nuclear not designed by bad communists or people who don’t understand tsunamis or backup protection are far safer than Russian gas and so called renewables. I’m all for leaving carbon based fuels behind (by definition limited supply), but only nuclear can provide mass populations power. The Telegraph had a scoop Merkel only backed Nord Stream 2 due to industry pressure. Too bad they didn’t fight for nuclear, then they would be enriching a former KGB leader’s insane follies.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

either a mad man or incredibly ignorant” Or in league with Satan

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

Look who’s leaving their job and look who former German leader Gerhard Schröder now works for.

JayBee
4 years ago
Reply to  DoctorCOxford

The guy is a media presence obsessed idiotic functionary, a barely qualified and for some years only part time practicing radiologist.
A previous strong advocate of Pandemrix too, a total pharma shill and one of the most zealous Covidians there.
Bug here, he actually got misstated by the even more panic mongering lusting left newspaper SZ.
All he said is he feared a variant more contagious than previously and as deadly as Ebola. He didn’t say Omicron would be that variant, or that Omicron is as deadly as Ebola. The newspaper made that up.
Of course, the fear in itself is medically idiotic, but don’t expect anything else from him.
That he runs the WMA tells you all about the qualification and trustworthiness of that profession you need to know.

Garfy1967
Garfy1967
4 years ago

Just been to a Tesco superstore near where I work. I estimate 50% unmasked. The security guard on the door smiled and said good morning. Not a word about it. Retail are not in the slightest bit interested in this. Witless & Unbalanced can bleat all they like and the government can threaten fines, but it just ain’t gonna happen. People have had enough and they know that the lack of logic behind the rules and rank hypocrisy of the people that govern us has killed this one stone dead.

davews
4 years ago
Reply to  Garfy1967

Ours seemed the opposite. I was not the only bare faced but effectively 100% were. They have stuck a notice on their ‘continue to be safe’ board saying masks compulsory, saw security guard offer a mask to one., but I just walked in.

ThomasPelham
4 years ago

I have just unsubbed from the telegraph after a particularly egregious piece of mask propaganda. Can anyone suggest a good balanced centre right newspaper? Ideally one without constant advertorials from the government or gates.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

The Daily Sceptic?

It depends what you mean by “centre right”.

If you mean small-c conservative then I can’t think of any. Perhaps The Spectator gets closest.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The Spectator are full blown collaborators

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

The Telegraph is the least-worst of the MSM when it comes to Coronabollox, so I reckon you will be out of luck!

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

The Conservative Woman? It’s not just for women and it’s conservative with a small ‘c’, and it’s up there totally with the Daily Sceptic for its scepticism!

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Yes CW is pretty much the only right of centre publication left, now that The Spectator has mostly sailed leftwards.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  ThomasPelham

As others have stated, as well as the DS, there is The Conservative Woman (TCW) site – and also the UK Column.

Patricia
Patricia
4 years ago

I wish Julia Hartley-Brewer would stop saying that masks are merely “theatre”. They are no such thing. They are a visible sign of Government control over our lives and the idiots who are still wearing them need to realise that. A friend overheard a conversation a couple of days ago in a shop where a couple were being praised for having their toddler masked. Why? Because, as the commentator pointed out “it’s great that you are getting them used to it so early on [in their young lives]. Honestly, you could not make this crazy stuff up. So, give it up, Julia – you’re aiding and abetting this crime against humanity. Same goes for this business of being against coercion but telling the world at every opportunity that you have been jabbed, that YOU are no conspiracy theorist. Most of the GB News presenters do the same daft thing. It shows that they really do not know what is actually going on – that neither the masks nor the vaccines are “what they say they’re about” to slightly paraphrase Neil Oliver, the only presenter who doesn’t boast about his “conspiracy-theory-free status” OR his “vaccine status” – I suspect he’s much… Read more »

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago

A quick tour of the local shops and no problem with the Co-op and Sainsbury’s with no mask. Smaller shops not a problem either. Popped in to the local doctor’s to put in a prescription and none of the four receptionists behind the counter have a mask on. Perhaps they do a daily test, who knows?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  AndyPandy

Yes just say you test daily…

They don’t need to know your test is looking in the mirror.