Sajid Javid Says the U.K. Is “Nowhere Near” a Return to Full Lockdown Measures

Sajid Javid has said that the Government is “nowhere near” bringing back full lockdown restrictions in the U.K., saying that the measures “carry a very heavy price”, such as economic damage and negative mental health outcomes. The Health Secretary also said that “people should continue with their plans as normal for Christmas” despite the emergence of the Omicron variant. The Sun has the story.

Health Secretary Sajid Javid has said “we’re nowhere near” reintroducing working from home or social distancing measures to combat Covid.

He told Sky’s Trevor Phillips on Sunday: “We know now those types of measures do carry a very heavy price, both economically, socially, in terms of non-Covid health outcomes such as impact on mental health.

“So, if one was to make decisions like that they would have to be done very, very carefully and we’re not there yet, we’re nowhere near that.”

He added that people should plan for Christmas as “normal”.

“I think it’s fair to say that the nature of this pandemic is it would be irresponsible to make guarantees,” Javid said.

“As for Christmas, I think people should continue with their plans as normal for Christmas, I think it’s going to be a great Christmas.”

It comes as compulsory mask-wearing is set to return next week in a bid to save Christmas from a super-mutant coronavirus.

Boris Johnson ordered the move after at least two cases of the fast-spreading Omicron variant were found in the U.K.

He also urged people to get booster jabs, saying: “It’s more vital than ever.”

Mask-wearing will again be compulsory in shops and buses, trains and taxis in England from Tuesday.

Overseas travel and self-isolation rules have been tightened after the first two cases of the super-strain were detected in Britain.

Scientists will explore how the booster programme can be extended, including to those as young as 18 years-old.

Omicron, discovered only days ago in southern Africa, has been declared the worst variant yet by one expert, while there are fears it might reduce vaccine protection over time.

The Prime Minister’s measures, outlined at a Downing Street briefing, aim to slow down its spread until scientists know just how dangerous it is.

But Johnson stopped short of imposing a devastating shutdown of pubs and restaurants in the run-up to Christmas.

He insisted that if the public stick to the rules and get their jabs, there will be no need for another last-gasp festive lockdown…

Despite the reassurances, the mere prospect of fresh Covid curbs will send shockwaves through the hospitality industry which saw takings fall by almost 80% in the festive period last year.

Johnson refused to give any guarantees but he is clear that there will be no lockdown like last year, and people were not being asked to work from home.

In a further move, he announced plans to step up the pace of the jabs programme.

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RickH
4 years ago

Trans. : At the moment, we only need enough Scary Faries to keep the gullible in their place. (But watch this space)

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

The cabal’s puppets realise they overstretched the order-followers seemingly unlimited bounds of credulity by asserting a whole load of made-up ‘scientific facts’ within hours of this supposed variant emerging – 50 mutations, 100 times more transmissible, juice only 40% effective or whatever. Now they have to turn the heat down and once again boil the frogs slowly either by ramping up fake testing to create more bogus cases/deaths or finding another means to generate the requisite levels of fear.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

And it’s working. I went to a festive fair this morning. Quite a large event in a public school in the south west. Notice on the entrance saying that you only needed to wear a face covering if you felt it was necessary. In I went, maskless……to be surrounded by the masked up donkeys! I would say 95% plus masked. About half the traders were masked, and very few of the visiting customers. Spotting a free face was a job of work. Nobody said anything to me, but I could see their beady, rat like eyes, peering at me from above their masks. Thank God I didn’t sneeze, I may have been lynched. Same in Tesco, where the traffic light system is back, and trolley cleaning going on space. I am very downcast, seeing this. I cannot see how we can ever escape. All those people, all of them, I am betting, would enthusiastically support the segregation and marginalisation of the unvaxxed, or of anyone who did not comply. When you hear people say, as I did this morning, that they “are glad they’ve brought masks back as it’s much safer”, you realise just how far down the pit we… Read more »

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

The facepantied zombies you saw woukd have been facepanties anyway.Disregard them. Just hold on, show your face, and history will catch up with us.

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Many of them would happily help load us on to trains….

PaulMac66
PaulMac66
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Been in Newcastle city centre this afternoon and I’m happy to report hardly anyone had their masks on. Us Geordies sticking it to The Man.

Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Yeah, they’re saying this so they can later claim that we went from “nowhere near” to “lockdown now!” in a week so they were completely overwhelmed, hence the lockdown. They don’t want to announce a lockdown ahead of time because they know there will be people in the streets. If they announce it overnight, people won’t have time to coordinate, and when they do go out to protest, the police will be out in full force, because it’s a lockdown.

And the psyop continues.

Jo Starlin
4 years ago

Lockdown incoming then.

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

For the unvaxxed who’ll be blamed for the winter death uptick… for sure Jo. And as the right-wing, climate change denying anti-vaxxer extremists accurately predicted – as Xmas fast approaches we’re reaching peak COVID madness regarding BlowJo’s anti-pandemic policies. Why so? Because this increasingly flimsy, clown world narrative has only been kept alive so far by “approved” science, jumbled data, mass MSM 24/7 fear-porn and propaganda. Critically the grubbermint actually knows the cracks in the agenda are becoming clearer. The magic behind the curtain is no longer hidden as everything remotely associated with pandemic logic is currently falling-apart and exploding in their faces, Savage Jabbid blatherings included. “When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty” [Bertolt Brecht] This Convid1984 scam only ends when the UK masses, wake-up and realise the loss of their bodily autonomy, personal freedoms and chance of a decent life and income are permanently trashed via this long planned bio-digital totalitarian public health dictatorship looming, this becomes increasingly more obvious week, by week.  And a timely warning message from Eire… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u11I8Jh-CsM The magic of resistance begins to take effect when pushback becomes visible and like-minded people recognise each other, at freedom marches and when unmasked in places its mandated to be.… Read more »

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cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Well said.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Excellent video – should be shared as far and as widely as possible.

For anyone thinking ‘it is never going to happen’ and that old normal will make a come back she dispels those notions.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

Don’t forget, Javid, Johnson, Zahawi, Whitty, Ferguson, Patel, Van Tam, Gove, Drakeford, all the members of SAGE, Sridhar, and Sturgeon will all be locked down too.

They are making great personal sacrifices for Your Health.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Like they all did on their EU revels?

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Ironic? 😉

martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
4 years ago

So in other words… lockdowns incoming then. I don’t believe a word that comes from any of their mouths.

WokeWatcher
WokeWatcher
4 years ago

Omicron is closely related to the truly dreaded Franco-Irish variant O’Macron.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  WokeWatcher

McOmicron the Scottish variant

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Omicon. The work of fraudsters

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Reply to  Cecil B

cOmicon

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

O’Moron the irish.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  WokeWatcher

OMICRON = MORONIC = yes apt and a laugh, but..

OMICRON = ONCOMIR = a much more sinister anagram. It’s microRNA associated with cancer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oncomir

And just by chance, Israel on Thursday held a “war game drill” OMEGA in case of an outbreak of a new lethal variant of Covid-19. Just a coincidence of course..

OMEGA goes live and then OMICRON appears worldwide a day later..

https://www.scmp.com/news/world/middle-east/article/3155763/israel-holds-war-game-case-lethal-new-coronavirus-strain

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

From that article in the SCMP:

“The exercises, which simulated the outbreak of an ‘Omega’ Covid-19 variant that bypasses vaccines and sickens children, prompting mass hospitalisations”

“The ‘world first’ drill covered different aspects of a crisis, including mass inoculation, ordering curfews and imposing a flight ban.”

They already have mass spiking. Presumably what is meant is compulsory vaccination, quite possibly with a new injection for everyone (or everyone they can catch).

On the symbolism: omega is the long “oh” sound (as in “lope”) whereas omicron is the short “o” (as in “lop”).

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

The Israeli’s have been one those in the lead on this from the start..

As for the o -O’s Omega is the big one.. the big O.. watch this space..

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

so far the moronic scariant has only been found in the vaccinated and is so deadly they barely know they’ve got it, so could this mean that Geert Vanden Bosche’s worry about the vaccine letting new variants through the gates isn’t happening?

John001
John001
4 years ago

Possibly the Scary Mutant is on a par with a common cold.

(I didn’t realise until this period that severe colds can kill frail elderly people. For the rest of us, they’re almost nothing and we can eliminate them if we want by eating a healthy diet and taking vit.D supplements.)

Dr Chris Martenson at Peak Prosperity seems to think the genetic structure of this variant is highly suspicious and that we shouldn’t rush to conclusions yet. He’s been right on most things since Jan. 2020, a pretty good track record.

I should add that Vallance and Whitty seemed right on most things virus-related before mid March 2020, then they did a sudden U-turn. Funny, wasn’t it.

mwhite
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

How the established the genome of covid 19.

The COVID-19 Fraud & War On Humanity (Part 1) (odysee.com)

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

Dr Chris Martenson at Peak Prosperity seems to think the genetic structure of this variant is highly suspicious

It did occur to me that there seemed to be an exceptionally large number of mutations.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

Nothing to do with shares in vaccine companies?

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

On daily vitamin C against the common cold, see the work of Linus Pauling.

ChristineJ58
ChristineJ58
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

And Vitamin D3. And Chlorella is excellent, too.

Bellingcat
4 years ago

This is more about by-elections and You-Gov’s dodgy polling than any scariants

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realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Bellingcat

Exactly. Get a narrow win in Bexley; lockdown thereafter.

caravaggio57
4 years ago

I had hopes that Sajid Javid was not a weak innumerate lying coward.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  caravaggio57

And then he woke up.. 😉

paul smith
4 years ago
Reply to  caravaggio57

Never ‘hope’.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  caravaggio57

Sajid Javid is a cardboard cutout bullsh*tter, in the mould of Tony Blair.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Yeah.. and ex Goldman Sachs to boot..

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago
Reply to  caravaggio57

Well he’s not Innumerate, he’s perfectly capable of counting how many shares he has In big pharma and how rich they are making him.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Lockdown is absolutely guaranteed this year, next year and every year with these bastards.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Is the ‘O’ thingy a cover story for ADE?

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Probably. I’m starting to think the variant names are a joke that symbolise: “ἐγώ εἰμι τὸ Ἄλφα καὶ τὸ Ὦ”.

We’ll get to Ω in about 2030.

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Considering they skipped a load of Greek letters (presumably because they thought omicron sounded scary/exotic) they’ll be on omega by the end of next year. I wonder what the next naming convention will be, perhaps the Palpatine and Vader variants?

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

Easy to see why they jumped nu and xi, at least for a variant they were going to talk a lot about in front of the sheeple.

But…omicron as the little version of omega – there may be something in that.

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago
Reply to  TheBluePill

The ‘made up ‘ variant is a lot easier to say.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

Only one person is Alpha and Omega, and it isn’t the covvie devil.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Indeed, but as far as they are concerned they are Α & Ω and we are their flock.

Noumenon
4 years ago

If we were “nowhere near” lockdown measures we wouldn’t be going into “compulsory” muzzling.

realarthurdent
4 years ago

Mr Jabbit, I don’t need your or the government’s permission to carry on as normal.

No love,
realarthurdent

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I second that and forward it to Dungford and the Dung Gang.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Yet you do if you want to leave or re-enter the country.

thinkcriticall
4 years ago

‘If you get the Pfizer vax, you’re more likely to get COVID’: Industry analyst flags FDA study.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/if-you-get-the-pfizer-vax-youre-more-likely-to-get-covid-insider-leaks-fda-study/

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

He insisted that if the public stick to the rules and get their jabs, there will be no need for another last-gasp festive lockdown…

Or, if you comply with the removal of your freedoms you will one day get your freedoms back

Yeah along with the cheques in the post and……….

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

“If the public stick to the rules and get their jab . . . there should be no need for a festive lockdown”

Only yesterday I told of my vaxophile neighbour being instructed to get his boost from a village surgery several miles out of town, with poor public transport links, instead of 500 yards up the road where he got his first two, he refused but won’t be able to say it wasn’t offered.
It’s almost as if they want the booster programme to fail.

Hopeless
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Not being a pseudo-scientist, a hopeless modeller or a lying politician, I really do not see how pushing the “booster”, as the concoction previously cooked up for the original version of C-19, is either helpful or appropriate. As usual, in the morass of lies, evasions and half-truths, it is impossible to find any cogent explanations or rationales about concerns such as cardiac problems, ADE and the other “vaccine” possible upshots.

Inevitably, the conclusion drawn has to be either a) no-one has the faintest idea, and all the reassuring noises from NHS stooges etc. is mere verbiage or b) they know darn’ well that this stuff can and will cause serious damage, and all the reassuring noises etc…..

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Sounds like another example of those in the “health” sector being required to go along with, and administer, obvious rubbish but not to “notice” in public. Which is a shift that can go a lot further.

Javy
Javy
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I wonder why G.P.s aren’t giving the booster ? I’d be encouraged if it was due to them waking up but somehow I doubt it.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Javy

Mine is but are ‘only commissioned to provide it for the over 75s’.
Perhaps they are being issued with the killer variant vaccine?

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

I may be overly optimistic here as these fraudsters have form….
But maybe these clowns don’t want further restrictions but need to be seen to be doing something so to mitigate criticism from the media and other covidiots – masks, their view, is the least worst intervention, it is indeed theatre.
Apologies in advance for my glass half full attitude this morning – my ski trip to spain in january has just been fcuked over – no pure bloods allowed – so I should be really pissed – but was deep down expecting it

steve_z
4 years ago

yes. masks in shops and on transport is theatre. it is to show they are doing something.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

I disagree Steve.. masks have always been about conformity. They want to see how many are going to re-conform with the new mask mandates.

Its a no brainer visual for them. If the the shops and transport are full to the brim with mask wearers they’ll know how to act re the next stage of the con. They’ll be watching for sure..

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

“They’ll be watching for sure..”

The whole country is crammed full of surveillance cameras, they can watch from a distance.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Absolutely..

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

With the added advantage that the unmasked will be the easiest to identify.

Don’t forget folks not a single person has yet to be tried in Court over Covid regulations because the CPS won’t touch such cases with barge pole.
Where commercial premises have been penalised it has been by using Health & Safety or Licensing laws which do not cover the general public.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

As mentioned in the roundup comments below.
Mandatory masks are indeed a cheap and easy way to respond to demands that ”something must be done” (about a situation of their own creation).

But it is always an excellent way of judging the general mood of compliance before deciding whether to introduce newer types of control (vaxports perhaps).
It is also extremely simple to police both by the Police themselves but also it empowers the public to turn into Enforcers on their fellow citizens.

Time for DS to host a permanent summary of what the exemption rules are.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

But it is always an excellent way of judging the general mood of compliance”

yes. we must hold the line. the more mask non-compliance the better. the more of us wear masks the more likely a lockdown.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Which is precisely why the will be monitoring compliance si carefully.

Last year people thought and hoped that mute compliance would save Xmas and lead to freedom. What it did was the exact opposite as was always intended.

Edmund Mortimer
Edmund Mortimer
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

Damn it, they have won, then. I went to Tesco this morning and everybody except me was wearing a mask, even though the restrictions don’t come in till tomorrow.

ChristineJ58
ChristineJ58
4 years ago

It’s horrifying that so many people are SO gullible.

It’s actually Tuesday that the ‘restrictions’ come in, not Monday.

Annie
4 years ago

Never mind, Major. There will be other ski trips and you won’t be surrounded by gibbering jabbering muzzleoids.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

I am closely following Spanish restriction changes which can be weekly.
As far as i can see the specific UK ones are unchanged, which allows entry with test rather than vaccine.
There has been one significant change this week affecting all those previously allowed to enter from ‘high risk’ countries , which is everywhere except a handful of nations mainly in the MEast, Oz, China etc. previously a vaccine certificate was enough, now it needs a negative test certificate as well. This applies to all EU/EEA countries as well. I think the outcome of this, whether they meant it or not is that vaccine certs are useless.
https://www.mscbs.gob.es/en/profesionales/saludPublica/ccayes/alertasActual/nCov/spth.htm

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Reply to  peyrole

hope you are right and this is wrong…

Only fully-vaccinated British tourists will be admitted to Spain from Wednesday as countries around the world tighten border restrictions amid concern at the new Omicron coronavirus variant.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/covid-omicron-spain-pcr-israel-border-b1965418.html

karenovirus
4 years ago

So Gibraltarians will be able to come and go with ease despite their rocketing ‘case’ rates.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

I apologise. When I checked again today its has indeed changed as you describe. Quite why Spain has singled out the UK, one of if not the biggest incoming market for its holiday industry is anyone’s guess.
Germans, in a worse state than the UK ,can enter with an antigen test. But now UK is treated exactly the same as High Risk countries such as South Africa. None of this has any thing to do with health, its all political. I wouldn’t mind betting its Macron at work.

TheGreenAcres
4 years ago

Good to hear, but there is no such thing as an unbreakable promise for this Government.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Only good in the sense that we know they are lying.
Silence would be more worrying.

steve_z
4 years ago

but but but….

Sweden didn’t lockdown and had zero excess deaths

we shouldn’t even be talking about lockdowns unless its in the context of what a fucking stupid idea they are

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Bozo, SAGE and all the rest are perfectly aware of Sweden (and Belarus) as they were when implementing Tiers this time last year, supposedly to Save Our Christmas.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

maybe they are and this is just mask theatre – but they really know they wont lock down again because its so bad. but have to be seen to be doing something whilst not trashing their own lockdown record. walking a line between not locking down and pretending that the previous lockdown wasn’t criminally stupid

here’s hoping

1984imminent
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

I agree with a lot of this. “Seen to be doing something” – tick. Not wanting another lockdown – tick. Unlike last year, they can’t pretend that lockdown wasn’t devastating. People have seen the results: lost jobs, mental health destroyed, children behind on education, suicides. People have also noticed that granny didn’t drop down dead, in spite of the aliens in the government swearing on oath that this would happen. Some people complied with Christmas lockdown last year, because they feared police raiding their homes on the day, or setting up roadblocks. These didn’t happen; no reason to suspect they will this year. (I’m sure the “police arrest women having coffee” incident was staged, probably the police force and the women concerned were paid to be part of it.) Probably also the “masks in shops” is a test of public compliance – and also a test of business compliance. Will the supermarkets enforce it? The govt knows that they need the public on their side to have any chance of a lockdown. Also, if there is a lockdown, this screams “vaccines are useless” (like the app, which was supposed to prevent lockdown, but didn’t); and somebody is desperate to keep… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

If they stay true to form complicit mask wearing will lead to lockdown.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Isn’t it a coincidence that councils were advertising for Covid marshals last week? It’s almost as if some people knew that this mask mandate was coming even before news of the moronic variant broke!

steve_z
4 years ago

we don’t seem to know anything about the Macron variant yet. ‘Mild’ maybe except for the terminally ill I expect. Caused a racing pulse in someone – not sure how that will go down with Pfizer recipients and their inflamed hearts.

Steve-Devon
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

I do think this may well be the cause for the official concern, they are worried that the mRNA potion will have left people vulnerable to this variant and that the mRNA treated will get knocked badly while others will be OK with a very mild winter virus.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

ADE – always a concern with other vaccines but they brushed it under the carpet

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Steve-Devon

Why rule out the possibility that omicron has been deliberately engineered? It was always clear that mRNA spiking would induce the production and transmission of bugs of an extremely nasty kind. MRNA “vaccines” should never have been legal in the first place.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

I think was AZ or perhaps Pfizer that were originally trialled in Brazil, South Africa and (somewhere else that escapes me), the very places where the first new variants appeared last year.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

The Macron variant.. a mate of mine had it down the road.. he started fancying his mother..

Hopeless
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

Unusual to know that anyone nowadays is named Oedipus. Greek, is he?

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

Well his mum is called Brigitte if that’s any help.

ChristineJ58
ChristineJ58
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

I might be wrong, but I thought it was his wife who’s called Brigitte.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

The problem with myocarditis is that it can lurk undetected until the heart experiences extra strain, and then bang. I believe this is what is happening to the athletes. They take the jab and think all is fine. Then they exert themselves on the pitch and the rest is history, or in our case, memory-holed.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Back in the day Top Athletes were notoriously prone to torn ligaments, now it seems to be torn hearts.

alanbaird10
alanbaird10
4 years ago

Catching Covid doesn’t worry me but I worry how my life will be curtailed for the rest of my days by government Covid policy.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  alanbaird10

Pneumonia (required for Covid) is no fun for anyone, but SARSCoV2 is unlikely to bring any symptoms at all, let alone Covid, if you look after yourself.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

I was listening to Professor Mattias Desmet’s mass formation theory which he is using to try and explain the insanity we are currently seeing in terms of masses of people obeying such patently absurd and ever-changing regulations, and it occurred to me that if you’re less intelligent than your governors, you’re essentially hypnotised right now. If you’re more intelligent than your governors and can see what is happening, you’re terrified.

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Alas, I don’t think IQ is the lone component for explaining compliance or scepticism. Some of the IDW are split on this, which rocked me to my core a fair bit. I took days out contemplating what the hell are they seeing, or what I am not seeing that places me with a completely different perspective from those very ‘intelligent rebels’ who are pushing the vaccines. I just had to accept that it is complex set of reasons that places someone on the sceptical side. Some food for thought though. Studies on Brexit suggest those placed in the middle of the IQ spectrum were more likely to vote remain. While those on the fringes of lower and higher IQ were more likely to vote leave. Which resulted in a very similar IQ average for both camps. I would like to see a study done on average IQ being very susceptible to media propaganda. And at what point on the IQ spectrum does scepticism start to be dominant (if it becomes dominant at all on the spectrum). I have to confess, I have befriended two ‘stupid’ people who really are low IQ people. Both see through this crap though. And they… Read more »

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

Maybe it’s the limitations of the IQ test being manifested? I’ve found Howard Gardner’s multiple intelligences theory persuasive and allows for a more nuanced assessment of individuals.

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Perhaps it is. However, if anyone places any salt in the social sciences, then IQ as a predictor of success scores very highly. In fact, in predictability terms it scores second highest of all measurements in social sciences. Would you care to guess the highest score of predictability?

The acceptance of authoritarian rule with the emergence of infectious disease

I am sure those playing this pantomime out know this though 😉

Also, when you strip IQ down, it’s basically pattern recognition. Which I would imagine would stand you in good stead to see through this crap. With the patterns in this charade being so obvious.

All that said, I must confess to not knowing about Howard Gardner’s multiple intelligences theory. I will most certainly look into it. Thank you!

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

A better method than IQ for predictability? Personality measures?

The IQ test is certainly a very reliable predictor of academic success, but I’m mystified by the the number of people of high IQ that I know who have been completely taken in by the propaganda.

Gardner’s theories don’t necessarily explain this, but it’s possible that some high IQ individuals aren’t as adept at intra-personal skills as would be supposed – and perhaps that’s the reason they are failing to critically evaluate the claims.

Two of my PhD colleagues are mask wearers – even after the advice that masks must be worn to enter hospitality venues, but could be removed when sitting down! I find their inability to see through the nonsense after that as baffling.

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

Just been doing a bit of reading on Garner’s multiple intelligence theory. And I have a lot more to do, so I am not drawing any conclusions at this point. However, one of the criticisms is that he may place too much stock in personality traits.

I am a fairly big advocate of the Myers-Briggs personality test, which was based on Jung’s work.

In fact, many months ago I did a rather crude sampling on this site, just to get an idea if there is anything to it. I had imagined Intuition would score very well. Which it did. I also imagined Thinking would score well, again which it did. Though the highest trait scored with my crude sampling was Judgement, scoring in 90% of respondents.

I do think there is something in personality types and scepticism, so perhaps Gardner’s work might have some merit in it.

I’ll continue to do some more reading 🙂

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

I wouldn’t bother. I understand your curiosity, but I am going to save you a lot of time and reading – time which you could better spend doing other things – and simplify all this for you. I too am amazed at the seemingly intelligent people of my own acquaintance who have swallowed this hook line and sinker and who are not open in any shape or form to opening their minds which have snapped shut like steel traps. Two things. 1. A lot of people, irrespective of their IQ level, over the course of the last 20 years, have become completely conditioned to delegating their “thinking” to consulting their smartphone. The smart phone and the social media sites are designed to change brain chemistry. This has been well documented in the media as studies have been done and reported this. 2. The FEAR porn was done well and very successfully at the very outset. Once someone has bought into that narrative it is very very difficult to get them to see through it – and this has been ramped up time and time again with every new variant and every stage managed press conference. The majority of the population… Read more »

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

It comes as compulsory mask-wearing is set to return next week in a bid to save Christmas from a super-mutant coronavirus. OK read these words carefully. This is the scammers in action, using lies and the emotional pull of Christmas to rollout tyranny. The more people believe in their fairytales about new variants and how they are more or less deadly (dont forget all we ever hear about this supposed virus as a whole from those in the heart of the crime – the politicians – is how we are “still learning about the virus” – but then new variants come along and they know how deadly they are straight off the bat, ascertained via fraudulent methods in not fit for purpose lab tests if they even did that), the more they are playing in a game where the rules are set by liars driven by pure agenda and ideology who have NO interest in real science. They have not proven ANYTHING. So until they provide defacto irrefutable proof that what they are saying is legit, why should we believe anything they are saying. This whole thing is built on scientific fraud. The tests are not fit for purpose and can test… Read more »

George L
4 years ago

Good post.. quality info.. thanks..

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

The PCR test scam short film:

False – PCR Testing | Planet Lockdown Film
https://www.bitchute.com/video/vBQbHn2NTDy4/

karenovirus
4 years ago

As an out and about ‘key worker’ during Lockdown one I frequently came across people who knew of such cases of wilful misdiagnosis including a young woman whose stillborn child was labelled Covid dead. It was only because the father in law was ‘something in the military’ that this was changed.

I also spoke to a hospital administrator who had been instructed from On High that anybody who entered hospital, for any reason, who subsequently died and who had come into contact with someone supposedly with Covid were to be labelled Covid dead.

I posted several such examples here on lockdownsceptics at the time, Spring into early Summer 2020.

The 28 days rule only came about sometime into lockdown one after it was exposed that initially anyone who had ever had Covid who subsequently died from falling under a bus was labelled Covid dead with no time limit (including the Prime Minister if he had been assassinated years after recovery from Covid)

Hancock and co had to be led kicking and screaming before thay made this change because it overnight reduced the UK total from 60k to 40k deaths.

They think that we have forgotten, sadly most people have.

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Well judging by Italy’s reduction in deaths from over a 130,000 to under 4000, I’d say the UK’s alleged deaths are still massively inflated..

Italian Higher Institute of Health Adjusts Number of Deaths Due to Covid Alone Since February 2020 Downwards From Over 130,000 to under 4,000
https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2021/11/03/italian-higher-institute-of-health-adjusts-number-of-deaths-due-to-covid-alone-since-february-2020-downwards-from-over-130000-to-under-4000/

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

Another proof that there is no virus and all we are looking at is a load of hocus pocus and deceit from known deceivers and liars who control the world using these criminal tactics. The British government is so guilty in all this. We had the article on DS stating only 10pc of Convid cases in hospital could be construed as Convid based on symptoms from the former NHS analyst. This whole thing is a scam, nothing else. There is NO VIRUS.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes this is one of the most important parts of the scamdemic – the fake death toll and the transparently fraudulent methods of recording Covid deaths. We need to know who dreamed up these rules, they are some of the orchestrators and should be high up on the list of people charged for these crimes. These fake death numbers were repeated over and over again and formed a massive part of the brainwashing and fearmongering, they ended up writing about the 28 day rule beneath the figure on the BBC but most of the hypnotised would just accept it and not ask questions. This is really interesting and definitely worth raising with sleepers because they understand it so when you actually point it out, they immediately undertstand you are speaking sense and it validates the other stuff you are saying, they just havent put two and two together yet so you have a lot of lightbulb moments stored away! Its an easy to prove act of fraud and deceit to manipulate them

sjonesy1999
sjonesy1999
4 years ago

Despicable tinpot dictators puppet.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  thinkcriticall

As I repeatedly say, the non-injected must be made to disappear to eradicate the control group and do away with data like these. And you make them disappear by forcing injections in their arms. We’ve seen nothing like this since 1940s Germany.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

More specifically the SS occupied areas of Eastern Europe whose Gauleiters were mostly lawyers.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago

This is my prediction
In 3 weeks time, because of the time of the year the Hospitals will be fuller etc, etc. Johnson will allow us Christmas but tell us to be alert.
Post Christmas I suspect pre New year celebrations he will impose tougher “circuit breaker” in other words Lockdown again, he will say the Hosptals are becoming stressed, (as they do every time this year). But he will blame the unvaccinated, in other words reading off the western world agreed playbook, this will ensure he can eradicate the disobedient and escape the blame,
Then as Spring approaches we will slowly be released, but those that remain unvaccinated will effectively be confined to permanant Lockdown apart from being allowed to work and buy food from approved sites.
Next Winter the entire story will play out again, with a few more removals of basic freedoms for all and the introduction of new controls.
Anyone want to disagree?

paul smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

Sooooooooo f’ing predictable.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

A fair assessment I would not want to bet against. The non-injected represent a serious threat to the regime as they allow data from a very awkward control group that shows the regime’s guilt. This is why they must go, no matter how many people die in the process. A state-controlled press full of compliant wretches allows this to go unquestioned.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

With this in mind, is it perhaps time to be researching ways of counteracting the effects of the bioweapon? I wonder if for instance dosing up on ivermectin ahead of the jab would prevent it from multiplying? Like you, this is a hill I’m prepared to die on, but if it comes to violence, I wonder if there’s ways to protect ourselves from the weapon?

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I’d be interested in this too.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I wonder if it comes to it you can claim to have had your jab and boosters – name a place and blame them for losing the paperwork

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

No. I wish I could.

beancounter
beancounter
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

If you had written this two years ago you would have been categorised as a lunatic, likely to be sectioned. Today I see no reason to disagree with you.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester

You don’t think the government will try for compulsory vaccination then?

How does the buying food from approved sites work? Got to think time as well as space. There could be an “hour for the Unclean” at Tesco’s, with staff scrubbing everything before we arrive, greeting us wearing full chemical and biological warfare suits, and marching us around in single file with never less than 3 metres between us, with police, soldiers, or G4S marshals in attendance in case we (literally) step out of line. (I wish I was joking! Some of the staff at my local Tesco’s would love this!)

The gap in your scenario is what happens to the vaccinated between March and November.

steve_z
4 years ago

on the Omicron bollox

lets say 10 people have it in the UK – its quite new

lets imagine an R of 2.0 (delta has been around 1 for month – you don’t even give it to everyone you live with)

latency 5 days

it takes 5 days for a doubling – 10 doublings before 10,000 per day (ie a fifth of present ‘cases’) – 50 days – a couple of months – spring just round the corner – who cares?

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

Hands up all of you who believe Peppa Jokeson! Why is he saying “It evades the vaccines” when a) they are not vaccines b) all the variants evade the vaccines because they are not vaccines c) he knows he had to do a huge U-Turn when his Two Jabs Health Secretary caught Covid and he tried to wriggle out of isolating.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

By the end of the week, I expect “It’s more serious than we thought”. Week two “the only way to deal with it is Covid passports to save Xmas”. Week three “Covid passports haven’t achieved all we hope so we have to lock down all unvaccinated”. Week before Christmas “Jabs will be mandatory from January 1st because of selfish unvaccinated” whilst completely ignoring the fact he stated, “double-jabbed catch it”.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

Here are some puzzled travellers:

https://www.reddit.com/r/uktravel/

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

According to the doctor who diagnosed it, omicron “presents mild disease with symptoms being sore muscles and tiredness for a day or two… They might have a slight cough.”

I’m pretty sure I’ve had this quite a few times over the last 50 decades

Annie
4 years ago

YOU are Omicron! I claim the £50 prize!

huxleypiggles
4 years ago

Blimey, you are old. Fifty decades?

Edmund Mortimer
Edmund Mortimer
4 years ago

50 decades! You must be the Ice Man. So they got that arrow blade out of your shoulder and brought you round then?

Annie
4 years ago

Does anybody else get the impression that Savij Jabbid was made by a process of plastic injection moulding?

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Oh brilliant.. I’m pi$$ing myself here. My thought for the day and its awful.. 😉

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

they should file down the bits on the side of his head where he was pushed out of the mould