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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

” ‘Vaccine’ dramatically increases heart risk” (TCW)

A reminder, we were told in December 2020 that “vaccinating” 15 million of the most vulnerable could end the cycle of endless lockdowns possibly as soon as February. As we now know, the “vaccines” have not delivered as promised. Lockdowns continue in many places and are implicitly being threatened here. They are not effective, and it seems they’re not even safe. Two football league players collapsed this week (John Fleck playing for Sheffield United on Tuesday and Charlie Wyke of Wigan Athletic in training on Thursday) – is this the new normal?

Despite denials that they are “vaccine” related, given the recent report that people can be at increased risk of heart problems up to two and a half months after these injections, and given the misleading claims that Christian Eriksen was not “vaccinated” (i.e. two weeks or more after second injection), I have my doubts. Who ever heard of (for example) two football league players collapsing in a few days before this year?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

There was a third unexplained collapse during Real Madrids Champions League (?) game against Sherif Tiraspol in which the player collapses, for no apparent reason, clutching his heart.
It’s perhaps surprising that his team gets to compete since Tiraspol is the ‘capital’ city of Transdniestra, a breakaway part of Moldova which is recognised only by Russia which it wants to join
SHERIF is the brand name of the mafia owned conglomerate that runs most of Transdniestras economy
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Clip can be seen at Hugotalks.com using odysee platform as it’s too controversial for YouTube.
Note the last words on the attached

“horrifying trend in football”

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Oops again, this one
Oi, wordpress, why can’t we edit pictures in or out of posts?

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John
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

To answer your last question, probably not, but then it’s unlikely to have been reported nationally, only locally.
Having said that I have to agree with Aseem Malhotra and it needs to be examined in detail. I have less worries about the AstraZeneca vaccine as it is based on a virus albeit modified to mimic SARS-CoV-2, so the immune response is likely to be more natural similar to other vaccines. However, the Pfizer and Moderna mRNA are, shall we say, less discerning about their action.
What would be interesting to see is whether cardiac events in the older population have shown a similar increase, since this population are more likely to have had the AstraZeneca than the Pfizer.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  John

To answer your last question, probably not, but then it’s unlikely to have been reported nationally, only locally.”

I think professional players collapsing in play, and probably also in training, would have been reported nationally, though outside the highest levels, probably only on the sports pages.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

They will be blaming it on rogue anti vaxxers getting smuggled into the stadium, pretending to sing in support of their Heros but really spreading their filthy germs all over the pitch; aiming at the players when they come to collect the ball from the sidelines.

Encierro
4 years ago

Santa Claus is gay? Of course he is” – “A TV ad for the Norwegian postal service that shows Father Christmas enjoying a festive kiss with a man has gone viral. Santa’s coming out makes perfect sense, given his uncanny ability to take on a wide range of identities,” writes Charlie Stone in RT.

It was the vaxx that he took in to show up with his passport in the Tesco add that made him gay.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

If they can produce a vax to make you Go Gay they should be able to make one one to cure you of Gay?

Excuse me while I report myself for hate crime likely to cause fear or distress.

Encierro
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I posted as a bit of light relive. I was hoping for replies which done the same. You have not disappointed.

sjonesy1999
sjonesy1999
4 years ago

Sajabbid Jabbit today confirmed that the Covid Variant is not the greatest threat to freedom after today’s discovery of the Super Covid Variant.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  sjonesy1999

No surprises there then in fact, apart from dates, there is nothing in any of the Covid related articles in todays Roundup that is new, or which are just telling us what we already know.

The pro-covid/lockdown/vaccine crowd keep feeling the need to pretend that the latest event is new or more dangerous. You can just imagine some Nudge unit wideboy in a lab saying to the technician
” yeah yeah, it looks almost the same but is there Anything we can say makes it different to last year?”
as he pulls out a slim brown envelope revealing the small pistol in his pocket.

We just need to keep to the same old facts and rebuttals that we have become familiar with.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Whats new in the de population game?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Getting rid of the unwanted air-wasters perhaps? My non-too bright neighbour/friend was always fully bought into Covid fear, lockdown Ultra and latterly Saviour Vaccines so naturally got his first two jabs asap. He has a number of legacy vulnerabilities (self inflicted over the years if you get my drift) so although only in his mid fifties he was invited to get his booster jab at a local GP Surgery (an offshoot of our usual one) just as the government is urging. On the due day it was cancelled with an invitation to call back this Friday, yesterday, to arrange another appointment. He was asked to go for this simple injection to a surgery in a village some 7 or 8 miles out of town, it sits on a hill from which our city can be seen in the middle distance and is served by one bus per hour out of the tourist season. Not unexpectedly he replied “I ain’t going all the way out there you can f*ck right off taking the p*ss or wot !” That surgery has nothing to do with ours except perhaps some of the 10 or so GPs listed as partners locally might also have… Read more »

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

A friend of mine lives in a large village with a medical centre. The centre is about two hundred yards from my friend’s house.
When she was due for surgery recently, my friend had to go for a PCR test to a village six miles away, served by an infrequent bus service.
She then had to isolate herself for ten days before going into hospital.
My friend, who still proudly lives alone, is 99 years old.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

While some rural Surgeries might specialise in this or another has better facilities for that, we all know that vaccines can be administered in a wigwam or a gazebo. Does your local Health Centre usually do PCR testing? If so your friend is probably the victim of budgetary factors rather than patient need.

We are currently experiencing heavy rain and 50mph northerly winds which I can feel up on the top floor so Interior facilities are welcome.
But all that is required is the back room of the nearby Scout hut or Methodist Church which have been used for jabs in the recent past.

That is why I suggest that Dr. Jim has had a word with his neighbour Dr John down the Dog & Duck, slips him fifty quid to use the spare room in the Village Surgery with the bonus of not having to drive into the city as he supervises the Health Care Assistants who are actually doing the jabbing.

Mark
4 years ago

OK, so the sections of big business not profiteering out of covid panic measures and the wealthy investors who stand to lose from them need to make the right call this time, instead of the wrong one they made last time.

The answer is not to push for other panic measures in order to supposedly “save us from a lockdown”, and in doing so ramp up the fear and hysteria that ultimately enables lockdowns etc. The answer is to fight the panic propaganda at its root, and put serious money into dissent against the panic.

The panickers won because they had all the big money and consequent media and political power behind their fear propaganda. Don’t let that happen again.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Those corporate retailers that stayed open during Lockdown One, mostly supermarkets, convenience store chains from large multiples to independents were among the first to abandon, or let become fallow, most Social Distancing regulations with the exception of perspex screens for their Till Staff. That remains the case today. The non-essential retailers that opened for Lockdown Lite, Next, John Lewis, PC World and the rest opened their doors with the full panoply of Government Lockdown Regulations on display plus a few Covid Safety ones of their own. Some brandished their Covid Safe Credentials in newspapers, on-line and probably on TV, advertising them to people who had known all about them for months and who just wanted to know the price of pants. When I lost a lot of mobility this summer I soon learned to phone in advance to see which stores were still operating ‘click’n’collect’ 》》ARGOS《 pretending it was for my safety and convenience whereas others had reverted to normal ‘come right in’ retailing, Next, TK Maxx take a bow. I think we can guess which will be keen to operate Panic Porn if it is in their commercial interest to do so and those which will try to avoid… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

MARK
You made a late response in our chat yesterday about you getting banned from the comments section if the Guardian.
I later responded that if you chose to play a game of tormenting lefty sjw types in their own playground then you can’t be surprised when they get upset or confused and go to Sir to complain about you.

It’s the same as if a committed Arsenal fan went to an away game at West Ham, stood with the Home Crowd and continued shouting for his team.
He could well be right in believing that they are the best in the land but he could could hardly be surprised if he got a kicking or, at least got ejected from the Home Stand by the club Marshals or retained Police.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

As I’ve said frequently, there’s nothing ‘lefty’ about the Groan. I was banned several years ago for commenting on its establishment (essentially right-tending) biases.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I go there as infrequently as possible, these days usually via links in DS Roundup.
Mostly I see pro gaia/ Greta/UN Climate catastrophe propaganda or Tory sleaze Scandals. Its attacks on the Tories are endemic (geddit!), they seem to feel the need to do so every day no matter how petty.
However I will gladly bow to your greater exposure to that ‘newspaper’.

Karenovirus is now offline for several hours.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

They may not represent your “left”, but they do not represent my “right” either. I’ve never thought of myself as especially right wing, and have voted for all of the major political parties in my time. But my views are apparently right wing by the current definition.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

This is not about my views – or your different views, Julian. The over-burdened ‘left/right’ distinction is irrelevant to the current situation. Thus my use of ‘establishment’, which is a much more contradictory beast. My particular set of views (the assumptions about which are terminally confused and inaccurate) are irrelevant. My occasional criticisms of noddy soap-boxing is not about the fact that my views differ from the soap-box stuff, but that blinkered inaccuracies needs to be challenged if one is really serious about what is going on. You will note, in passing, that my criticism of the Starmer non-opposition is also unrelenting. From my standpoint, I accept that individuals here will have a ‘traditional’ right-bias, given its genesis, but I also recognize that the site has done good work in tackling the specific issues around the inaccurately named ‘Covid’, and presenting a range of alternative information – in a position where we are totally fucked if dependent on the MSM or wild speculation. My irritation arises, because this is far too important an issue to be reduced to what strutting old-style political preening that misses the point like a short-sighted individual who has lost his bottle-lens glasses. Not because I… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

“As I’ve said frequently, there’s nothing ‘lefty’ about the Groan. I was banned several years ago for commenting on its establishment (essentially right-tending) biases.” Same old falsehoods, refuted here time after time..When the same false assertion is spammed, the same reply is called for. There’s no point in yet again posting the direct refutations of this assertion – eg Peter Hitchens’ informed and reasoned explanations of how Blairites (who are the people who run the publication in question) certainly are leftwing radicals. The establishment is Blairite and Blairites are the establishment, that’s why they are falsely described as “centrist” and misrepresented as “moderate” and “reasonable”. It ain’t rocket science! For anyone who is interested in why the likes of RickH (and all of the “old left” faction) constantly push this trope that the radical leftist Blairites are not actually leftist at all, the situation is broadly as follows. There was a split in the left, after their utter defeat in the 1980s, between those who stuck with the older, failed leftist notions of how you overthrow resistance to your radicalism, even after those approaches had clearly been defeated permanently by the 1980s, and the modern, slicker, media-savvy and dangerously competent leftists represented… Read more »

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

You have a compulsion to promulgate your political views on the back of this site, and thus define your own comfort zone against real-world complexity and the task in hand

Essentially, that’s your problem, and I won’t extend the pointlessness by debating mickey-mouse solopsistic politics.

You can’t get very far in a ‘debate’ where ‘left’ is just a synonym for ‘What I don’t’. (And which is totally irrelevant to the issue in hand).

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

You are the one who promulgated your political view here, with your (absurd on its face) assertion that the Guardian “is not leftwing”, when it is merely not your preferred kind of leftwing. .

You have a compulsion to promulgate your political views

A generally sceptical site is the ideal pace to discuss issues generally, and indeed in many cases my comments on these aspects come in direct response either to above the line posts, or comments below the line. You would evidently prefer if it were confined to topics and views you find comfortable and acceptable, but until those rules are imposed by the owners, you will be rightly ignored on that.

You can’t get very far in a ‘debate’ where ‘left’ is just a synonym for ‘What I don’t’ [like].”

Unlike you, I have repeatedly defined my use of the term. You are apparently dishonest enough to ignore it, repeatedly.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

You are the one who promulgated your political view here”

Nonsense on stilts – and you clearly seem incapable of grasping what I’m saying, because your bubble doesn’t have the equipment to do so. I’m simply stating a few facts that gel with the accepted definitions of right/left – however inadequate and pointless these may be in the current context.

I have repeatedly defined my use of the term”

Precisely – out of the mouths of babes and sucklings! Your definitions are wholly defined by your own tiny world of meaninglessness solipsism, whereby anything outside the atmosphere of Planet Zog is ‘left’.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

““I have repeatedly defined my use of the term” Precisely – out of the mouths of babes and sucklings! Your definitions are wholly defined by your own tiny world of meaninglessness solipsism, whereby anything outside the atmosphere of Planet Zog is ‘left’.” Every so often you write something so infantile that I have to wonder if you are just too overcome with emotion to think straight, because you clearly can do so on other topics. Do you understand the practice of defining one’s terms for a discussion? Do you understand its significance and use? If not, just say so and it can easily be explained to you. “Nonsense on stilts – and you clearly seem incapable of grasping what I’m saying, because your bubble doesn’t have the equipment to do so. I’m simply stating a few facts that gel with the accepted definitions of right/left – however inadequate and pointless these may be in the current context.” You seemingly aren’t even aware when you are making political assertions. And “the accepted definitions of left and right” are not just the ones you and your faction happen to prefer. In fact there is no single “accepted definition” for these terms. They are multiple,… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I’m sure Mark wasn’t surprised. Isn’t the slogan “comment is free”? I presume that is intended to refer to freedom of speech rather than it being gratis. I don’t think it’s a great analogy. West Ham fans don’t pretend to encourage free debate in their own backyard.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“Comment is free” is just a marketing slogan. I can’t be the first to notice the similarity to “Work Makes Free’.

I’m not defending the Guardian or their comments policy at all, just my surprise that Mark felt aggrieved at their hostility after, as he says himself, posting numerous comments against their cherished beliefs. Probably deliberately, Bravo and kudos to him.
Graun readers may not be fierce lions but it is their den.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes indeed a marketing slogan – an especially mendacious one. And yes I am sure you are not defending them. I doubt Mark feels “aggrieved” – he was just making the point that contentions that the Guardian is “right wing” are inaccurate as he, as a “right winger” was banned from their comments section for expressing right wing views. Of course whatever the Guardian is, it doesn’t represent the same “right wing” as Mark’s. The whole left-right debate on here is slightly frustrating because we’re not defining what we mean by those terms.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The whole left-right debate on here is slightly frustrating because we’re not defining what we mean by those terms.”

Most don’t, but I have. Repeatedly.

The frustration is that left/right (fuzzy and complex as it is) is so crucial to understanding the world and human history, but so many are misled into dismissing it. Often this is because they see that the political parties don’t easily or honestly or consistently represent a left/centre/right range, and jump from that to “left/right is meaningless/irrelevant” etc. Or claim that referring to it is “just to divide us”, when that simply plays into the hands of those pushing hard left, radical change agendas.

We live in a world where radical change, imposed top-down and destroying every institution that resists, has been driving us to disaster for decades, and seeks to go still further. If ever we desperately needed a conservative resistance, it’s now. Change (not “progress”, which outside mere technical competence and wealth accumulation is a manipulative lie) is eternal, but the faster and the more driven by ideology it is, the worse it is, in general.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

My frustration is that it is old, old currency that totally misses the point and therefore indirectly assists the task of 77th Brigade.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Right/left was not part of yesterday’s chat which was about my assertion that the Guardian allows some comments contrary to their usual worldview (‘right’ if you like) to stand sometimes for days until they disappear into the black hole Back Catalogue of comment archives.

Attached, once again, the example screenshot that I happened to have retained, comments refer to a Graun report on a recent anti vaxport Demo in Copenhagen.

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Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

“I’m not defending the Guardian or their comments policy at all, just my surprise that Mark felt aggrieved at their hostility after, as he says himself, posting numerous comments against their cherished beliefs. Probably deliberately, Bravo and kudos to him. Graun readers may not be fierce lions but it is their den.” This is a misrepresentation of the situation. They claim to believe in free speech. They do not, even in terms of honest political discussion. I never went to sites like the Guardian to provoke, merely to debate, but debating zealots is inherently provocative of course – that’s their defect, not a fault in those who seek debate. This is free speech 101. It turned out they do not want or believe in debate, merely in enforcing taboos and protecting their dogmas, in order to push a political agenda. If a discussion forum is honestly presented as a cosy closed discussion space for believers only, that’s one thing. But that’s not how the likes of the Guardian present their spaces. (Actually, in some senses it is, but that’s a separate issue – they like to have their cake and eat it, and they are fundamentally dishonest ) Contrast with… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“They claim to believe in free speech . . .”
That reality is at variance with reality should not come as a revelation and simply enhances my view that, with all due respect, getting censored is what you might have expected from such crowd of hypocrites and liars.

“It turned out they never believed in or wanted to debate . . .” and you are surprised? Sorry Mark but I would have thought that obvious from the start.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Precisely. As I have said in my own reply, it is a misleading analogy.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

It’s the same as if a committed Arsenal fan went to an away game at West Ham, stood with the Home Crowd and continued shouting for his team.
That sounds like my manager at a previous job. Mad Arsenal fan. Maybe a little mad generally.
Great bloke, but I when I first started working for him a lot of his stories seemed to end with ‘And that was when I took off all my clothes and started dancing’. He could have been taking the piss… but… I don’t think so.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The problem with that analogy is that we aren’t talking about a team sport, but (supposedly) about political discussion, and the difference between a supposed discussion forum where dissidents are free to present their case mostly unmolested, and an echo chamber like the Guardian (and most mainstream media outlets, though the Guardian used to be one of the worst).

Indeed the implication of your comment is the very problem that is at the root of the dysfunction on this issue in our society – the idea that political discussion should be comfortable and free from “offence” or discomfort at hearing disliked opinions expressed competently.

And to be clear, we aren’t talking about intentional provocation in the sense of childish abuse. Merely posting facts that are inconvenient for the prevailing dogma was enough to get censored or banned, just as we have seen facts that counter the panic narrative censored today.

That was a problem in our society, and we have seen some of its fruits with the covid panic censorship, which in many cases used the same attitudes and institutions set up to deal with pc taboo breaches.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The fact remains that you are entering a debating forum (Guardian comments) where you know full well the great majority of readers share opinions with which you (and I) fundamentally disagree and then seem to expect them to play Fair and Square under their fatuous slogan ,’Comment is Free’. The only reason i might think that you do so is to have fun at their expense by seeing them get wound up or, better still, start crying.

How ‘fair’ a hearing would we give someone perhaps calling himself Covidmarshal 2021 coming onto this platform arguing about the existential dangers of Covid, that Strict Lockdown for life is the only way forward and that anti vax nutters need castrating?

The Daily Mail allows such comments but the readers promptly put them on top of the naughty step where they remain for my amusement and, one presumes, that of others.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The fact remains...”

The line is crossed when administrative censorship is invoked. If you cannot see that, then we are not going to reach any agreement in the fundamental point here, even though I don’t necessarily disagree with much of what you write, merely its applicability to the issue under discussion.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“… the idea that political discussion should be comfortable and free from “offence” or discomfort at hearing disliked opinions expressed competently.”

Missing the point entirely, which is that constantly re-iterating general antiquated political preconceptions and fixations are irrelevant here to this particular crisis.

Pretending that it is a lunge for freedom of expression is like watching Don Quixote driving poor old Rosinante into the dust.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Missing the point entirely, which is that constantly re-iterating general antiquated political preconceptions and fixations are irrelevant here to this particular crisis.”

But that clearly wasn’t the point that was under discussion.

As for “antiquated”, that appears to be a shameless projection on your part, for someone who evidently failed to learn the lessons of the 1970s and 1980s.

Susan
4 years ago

“Biden’s Covid Milestone”
Better a millstone!

ewloe
4 years ago

… errors in abstract 10712. Specifically, there are several typographical errors, there is no data in the abstract regarding myocardial T-cell infiltration, there are no statistical analyses for significance provided, and the author is not clear that only anecdotal data was used. We are publishing this Expression of Concern until a suitable correction is published to indicate that the abstract in its current version may not be reliable.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

Following the Science?

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

‘Omicron’: How fear of new Covid strain gripped the world “Preliminary evidence suggests an increased risk of reinfection with this variant, as compared to other strains,” the agency concluded. While little is yet known about Omicron, the WHO’s chief scientist Soumya Swaminathan noted that it carried “a number of worrying mutations” that could make the strain more infectious than any observed before. Dear Bill Is this a computer virus variant? I.e. in silico genome sequence! Have we found a free living wild virus yet? I’d pay for a ticket to see one, if anyone can tell me what zoo has captured one. But seriously, “more infectious” ? Is that a surprise/hard? The old strains have been a big disappointment on infectiousness so far, it’s taking them nearly 2 years & still there’s plenty of people to infect, apparently. Don’t tell me, we have to get reinfected with each variant’s sub variant mutation to build up immunity? Does every variant need a new vaccine? Leaving everyone previously vaccinated, unvaccinated? The great reset meant retrying the vax pass narrative until they could make it fit the vaccine efficacy? Will covid from the new super variant coincidentally start to give children more severe… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yes, like precisely every alternate year the BBC solemnly warns that the previous year was the worst on record for rising global temperatures.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Is Omicron a Greek letter? So the variant is the same as what they were calling B1.1.529 or something yesterday?

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes, it comes in the Greek alphabet somewhere between/around the same place as Zeta, Theta and Kappa, which haven’t been used yet, as far as I’m aware, which makes me wonder why they chose Omicron, which is an anagram of “moronic”, and also sounds as if it is worshipping the micro/microscopic/maybe the nano; “O Micron!”.

NB. The media were calling it Nu” for a while, another Greek letter around the same place, which sounded very silly, but I think the new choice of name sounds suspiciously like a ( slightly ) concealed comment on what “they” probably think of the people who believe their covid-fear narrative.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Hence the joke (that’s how I interpreted it, anyway, though it might just be flat true – who can tell what is absurdity and what is reality these days?) tweeted by Martin Kulldorf last night:

News of new Nu variant, but WHO is jumping the alphabet to call it Omicron, so they can avoid Xi.”

https://twitter.com/MartinKulldorff/status/1464299665432608771

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karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Amtrup

Same logic as a recent report that stated the Met Office (more likely the BBC) had run out of Girls names (might be Boys) with which to name tropical storms.

Perhaps to give the impression that there have been so many this year, because MMGW, that they have run out of names to give them.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Omicron is an anagram for “moronic”. How ironic!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

How taking the piss on the part of ‘them’ at the expense of ‘us’ who saw through their game some months ago yet seem powerless to do anything about it.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

“Santa Claus is gay? Of course he is”

I don’t want a gay Santa coming down my back passage on Christmas night, thank-you very much.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I don’t want a gibbering, moronic, smirking, compliant jabberoid in a fake beard and a silly costume anywhere in my house or about my person.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Covid seems to have made you bitter, cheer up it could be worse. 😉

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I’m in Gulag Wales.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Are you ever allowed out? Outside the door or out of the country?

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

You could be in Australia!

Honestly the more they come at me with this nonsense the stronger it makes me, their authoritarianism is like kryptonite to me (forgive my comparison to a fictional cartoon character) i’m not superman, but i’ve been waiting years (decades) in a claustrophobic world where no one could see what was in their face. Slavery!

They’ve showed their hand now & bringing the fight into the open, I feel invigorated by their incompetence to even fabricate a credible narrative now is the time to push back.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Party pooper

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

🎅 ❤ 😖

Encierro
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Is he gay? He likes little children.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

That’s a dark hole I definitely don’t want to enter.

Encierro
4 years ago

France: PCR tests validity changes from 72 hours to 24hours.
Link in English.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

I said that from day one, PCR is nonsense, you could take a test, get sneezed on 2 seconds later, in their erroneous world of asymptomatic infection, you’d have to be in solitary confinement for life.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Indeed, but I presume it’s nothing to do with a desire for increased accuracy, but to make life harder for the unvaxxed.

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Don’t you just love macrame.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

There’s enough Covid shit around without your contribution.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Sorry comrade, I’m a devout anti_socialist

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

That’s fair enough. But I wouldn’t use that as a defense for promulgating simplistic rubbish.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago

Oh, what a surprise. Five weeks to Christmas, and bang on cue comes a scary new variant of the coof!

If it even exists at all. How does anyone know it does? The bastards who “govern” us could just be saying it, to scare the shit out of people and obtain greater compliance.

I can vaguely remember the story of Henny Penny and Chicken Licken who thought the sky was falling. Same sort of thing here. Don’t be a Chicken Licken.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

It was said when they introduced the first new Scary Variant that they could keep on doing so indefinitely either to excuse their own latest failings or as an excuse to introduce new restrictions which, as we bow know, are all part of the Great Reset.

“How does anyone know . . ?”
Same goes for the R number which they still trot out now then if they’ve got nothing else to talk about.

Encierro
4 years ago

Trying to turn the vaxx causing myocarditis or pericarditis the argument now is Covid it’s self.
Story in the DT
Desperate times

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

I don’t know why I’m surprised, I should be used to this constantly changing narrative to keep the covid fear going and explain away the glaring and growing flaws in the “vaccine good” narrative. I just don’t know how the people behind it sleep at night. The only conclusion I can come to is that they are total psychopaths who don’t care about all the blood on their hands. May they rot in hell.

FrankiiB
4 years ago

For once, the BBC keeps Chris Whitty off the news. I thought of celebrating until I realised it was because he said don’t worry about the variant (headline in Telegraph this morning)! If even Chris Whitty is saying that… well….

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

I’ve just skimmed through the news roundup and all I can think or say is aaaaaaarrrghhhhhhhhh aaaaaaarrrghhhhhhhhh aaaaaaarrrghhhhhhhhh aaaaaaarrrghhhhhhhhh aaaaaaarrrghhhhhhhhh
Thanks for listening. 😁

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

PS don’t know if I spelt aaaaaaarrrghhhhhhhhh right. Might need some more g’s?

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Yeah – you obviously need a throat lozenge!

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Brilliant! I am sure that will make everything all right again. Phew. Why didn’t the who just mandate throat lozenges in the first place?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

You could try sucking on a fisherman’s friend.

JayBee
4 years ago

This is a long interview with a French totalitarianism ‘expert’. It’s in German, the link to the French original is at the end. She is completely in the plutocratic Great Reset takeover camp. I am posting this passage here in light of Toby’s gender-critical efforts. She says here that each crisis and collapse of empires was and is first and foremost a moral collapse. And the 4 pillars of moral that collapse then are the prohibition of murder and of incest and the acceptance of generational and of gender differences, including their differentials (meaning p.of murder also of p.of diffamation, incest also of paedophilia, sexualisation of children, generational meaning acknowledge the before/after, history, traditions, gender meaning acknowledge that people are different). This puts the gender and statue toppler developments in particular into a new light. https://www.rubikon.news/artikel/das-bose-benennen “Beim moralischen Zusammenbruch sind die vier Säulen, die das Haus einer Zivilisation tragen, nicht mehr funktionsfähig: Mordverbot, Inzestverbot, Generationsunterschiede und Geschlechterunterschiede. Diese vier Säulen müssen auch in ihrer Komplexität und ihren Ableitungen verstanden werden: Das Verbot von Mord ist auch das Verbot von sozialem Mord — Verleumdung, Diffamierung, Ächtung —, das Inzestverbot ist auch ein allgemeines Verbot der Sexualisierung von Kindern und ihrer sexuellen… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

She is completely in the plutocratic Great Reset takeover camp.”

You mean in the camp of the plutocratic radical leftist globalists pushing “Great Reset” themselves, or in the camp of those who believe a “Great Reset” conspiracy is driving the covid panic along with everything else?

She says here that each crisis and collapse of empires was and is first and foremost a moral collapse.
And the 4 pillars of moral that collapse then are the prohibition of murder and of incest and the acceptance of generational and of gender differences, including their differentials (meaning p.of murder also of p.of diffamation, incest also of paedophilia, sexualisation of children, generational meaning acknowledge the before/after, history, traditions, gender meaning acknowledge that people are different).
This puts the gender and statue toppler developments in particular into a new light.

This suggests she’s against it, but you certainly can’t assume that. Radicals are perfectly capable of viewing that kind of thing as a necessary price worth paying for the Greater Good.

Unfortunately neither my French nor my German, while good enough for hitchhiking around Europe, are up to reading a long, complex political article!

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

There’s nothing new about the Nu.
Deadlier? More transmissible? Make your man bit shrivel an extra 7.9 percent? Turns breasts into venom glands?
Fuck off, clown leaders of the world. We’ve heard it before and we’re not buying it.

hippogriff
hippogriff
4 years ago

This might be worth looking into about the new variant:apparently it was found in 4 vaccinated people in Botswana through routine travel testing.
https://twitter.com/DrHoenderkamp/status/1464356147985539079

Matt Mounsey
Matt Mounsey
4 years ago

If we make it to next year it’ll be Transa Klaus. And I don’t want that coming down my chimney.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Mounsey

During the first Covid Autumn Jeremy Vine introduced us to a party comic who had repurposed his act to reflect the change in the Nationf mood.

His first Novelty was introducing
Mr. Sanitizer Clause.

number 6
number 6
4 years ago

To all sceptics and like minded folk please understand that you’ve been conned by the so called independent media. You have totally lost any credibility and (the) science is against you – THIS IS A FACT. Now is the time to accept that you’ve been WRONG! Latest News:- Mayor of London Sadiq Khan has welcomed the government’s decision to impose tighter restrictions on face masks. “Today’s announcement that face coverings will be compulsory on public transport nationwide, as they already are across TfL, is welcome,” Khan tweeted. “Evidence shows they help stop the virus spreading, and this is a measure I’ve repeatedly urged the government to take.” So there you have it all you STUPID sceptics, take heed or suffer the consequences, a horrible death. And Vaccines? They have been thoroughly tested to be effective and SAFE.  Any adverse reactions are usually exaggerated, and the very rare heart inflammation problem has been blown out of all proportion. It is claimed by the misinformation trolls that many athletes are suffering cardiac arrest, but this problem has been known to sports medicine experts for many years as ‘athletes heart’ and has not been reported on by the media or the present brigade… Read more »