Unjabbed Brits May be Banned from Travelling to EU Next Summer
Britons could be banned from travelling to the EU unless they are fully vaccinated against Covid under new rules being hammered out in Brussels today. MailOnline has more.
Under the plans, which would affect any tourist from outside the bloc, the ‘white list’ of approved countries would be scrapped in favour of making travel dependent on the vaccination status of the traveller.
Those fully jabbed with an EU-approved vaccine – which includes AstraZeneca and Pfizer – would be allowed to travel freely, provided their last dose was within the last nine months. Those with ‘expired’ jabs would need a booster shot.
Children, those who have recovered from the virus, people travelling for essential reasons and those jabbed with a WHO-approved vaccine would also be allowed but may require a pre-departure PCR test, Bloomberg reports.
The rules are likely to be phased in, and take full effect by March. The same rules would then be rolled out to EU citizens travelling within the bloc from next summer.
Detailed plans are set to be published later today, and it will then be up to each member state whether to implement them.
It comes as the continent tries to control a rising wave of Covid infections, with leaders targeting the unvaccinated for the harshest measures.
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I am not rushing at the moment. The responses to Paul Thacker’s article about the Pfizer whistleblower are very interesting – including the one from DUP MP Jim Shannon (several by me). Governments must be made to answer about the screwed vaccine science .
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“provided their last dose was within the last nine months” shows how infinitely stupid the Powers That Be are. Take a look at Israel where they are on Jab 4 / Booster 2 with almost the entire population: Covid is out of control. Look at countries where they are typically 80% or so: numbers soaring. It’s all very well ignoring the obvious fact, the vaccines cause Covid and perpetuate it, but stop blaming the Unvaccinated. Why stop blaming the Unvaccinated? Most of us don’t take Covid tests so we are not counted in the numbers. Most of us are not paranoid so we don’t scream “it must be Covid” if we sneeze near a vase of flowers. There is also the small factor that there are very few of us and, therefore, if it is us spreading it then we must be getting a new dose every few days or so. There is also the factor that as far as being banned from the EU is concerned I had no intention of going there anyway. Why would I choose to go to a petty bloc that can’t see facts from a Macron? I’m most certainly not happy with our country… Read more »
“how infinitely stupid the Powers That Be are”
Nope, just evil. All covid related measures are political, not medical.
I’m quite aware Covid was the Trojan Horse for a far bigger agenda. None of this has ever been about the health of the public. That became obvious once the same lies and standard comments came rolling in from everywhere. “Build Back Better”, “The New Normal” appeared in the first week of what was supposed to be three weeks of squashing the Sombrero!
It’s also obvious from the way the authorities haven’t offered a single bit of “public health” advice about how to strengthen immune systems, other than “Get spiked when you’re told, and like it”. Lockdown, “social distancing”, wearing a face nappy, etc., never strengthened anyone’s immune system, any more than standing on your doorstep clapping for the state.
The irrational denial of natural immunity is the biggest red flag for me.
Completely agree. Have to confess that when I saw headline of the latest NHS ad ‘Boost your immunity this winter’ for a nanosecond I thought ‘At last, some common sense about diet, exercise, healthy weight vitamins and so on developing a strong immune system’. How foolishly naive. The headline continued lower down ‘with the flu vaccine and Covid-19 booster’. I really should have known…
And does anyone have info on what ‘booster’ actually are? The NHS says they ‘will help extend the protection you gained from your first two doses and give you longer term protection’. So I’m assuming it’s doses 3 to infinity, unless I’ve missed something.
The only event that’s happened regarding strengthening immune systems was the NHS’s recommendation for care hope residents to have vitamin D supplements. Why just care home residents. We ALL need it, unless we’re working or are outside for a good proportion of he day.
That such a basic piece of critical health advice, that would not cost the govt anything, is not given is just bizarre, and cannot be accidental, as any *genuine* health professional or health authority would recommend it!
It’s the “do something” political virus. After lockdowns, masks, and now vaccines you’d think politicians would learn nature is uncontrollable.
Somehow failing to control Covid they think they can control the weather by banning cars and putting up windmills. Hubris is the true deadly virus.
Is Covid out of control or just positive testing? The vaccines – the more you have – will likely damage immunity beyond repair anyway.
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About 2 hours. Mainly from just before 1h in.
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People who have shares in Serco and Mitie are the virus.
Yes, people who keep allowing themselves to be injected with mRNA “vaccines” over and over again are, shall we put it politely, somewhat asking for trouble.
Many times I have been tempted to tell vaccinated ones “Imagine what it will be like when the real thing happens”.
By the time of booster 3 or “jab 5” (“fuller than full protection – you know it makes sense”) and 5000 deaths per day, it’s hard to suppose that army tanks won’t be on the streets.
Will the sheeple wake up then or just demand the un-vaxed be executed?
If I have to get vaxed to prevent my imminent execution will they demand to give me 6 in a row!!!
Dunno, have a look at COVID deaths and excess mortality. The actual number might not be correct but the trend of COVID deaths is probably a good indicator. Testing is BS if the majority are only effected like a bad cold.
Or not affected with any symptoms at all.
That said, some are experiencing impairment of the sense of taste and smell who didn’t suffer any other symptoms.
Percent positive tests in Germany is at all time high (near 20%). But I recall there was 50% positive tests in Poland in autumn/winter last year. And of course nothing much happened because of that back then. This huge swing in test results are probably caused not just by seasonal activity of the virus, but also by cross-contamination in the laboratories that are operating near peak capacity. While the tests were very accurate in summer when there they have nothing to do and can follow protocols (which was used to “disprove” the false positives theory), I suspect that the reliability goes to shit during winter when they have plenty to do and are also in a great hurry to make as much money as possible. Not only that, they are encouraged by both politics and pharma to produce more and more “cases”. Process quality control for labs, if any, is only performed every couple months, and the real validation if suspicious clusters of supposedly infected patients are uncovered in one place. But of course, this sort of plausibility check is no longer possible if the wrong results are delivered everywhere and the vaccinated test subjects are a priori assumed to… Read more »
I don’t call about 12 million ‘very few of us’.
I don’t know when you last looked at Israel (lemme guess – in August), but covid seems very much under control there now.
what’s the latest from Israel then (or were you being sarcastic?)
The latest is ~400 average cases per day. During the peak in August they had ~9000.
Thanks, almost like it peaks and troughs no matter the vaccines. Thank F that the UK has built up more natural immunity than other countries.
It has not “throughed” to the Israeli level in the UK, however. Guess what the reason might be.
You can check at either Worldometers.info or OurWorldInData.org. Reported “cases” and deaths are down. They were also down in May.
I expect Smalley will keep us in the loop on that in his new (shhhhh!) Substack.
Given the extent of “vaccination” in the population, and potentially the amount of testing – I don’t have access to that data – having a virus that mutates being “under control” is a stretch for me.
Lockdowns were/are as leaky as the “vaccines” for a similar reason – they don’t “cover” 100% of the risk; Alpha S1 spike protein has not been a feature since the Delta variant and full quarantine was not imposed (thank heavens). Still do not see how you attempt “full control” of an animal reservoir sourced virus; as others have commented , the absolute lack of public health advice regarding vitamins and minerals and other prophyalctics is beyond scandalous and should lead to some high level sackings, – “where were you , CMO?”- but we know that will not happen.
sadly decent public health advice and disease prevention has been neglected for decades, non more so than the last decade. Why vitamin D deficiency isn’t common knowledge is disgraceful
“There is also the small factor that there are very few of us and, therefore, if it is us spreading it then we must be getting a new dose every few days or so.”
Indeed. We refuse to die off!
As for international considerations, there is a big difference between “the French” who are firing the water cannon and the French resisters who are on the receiving end. The resistance needs international solidarity. We can win if we keep that in mind. Long live the French resistance and the German, Dutch, Italian, Austrian, etc., resistance too.
The likely thing is, that the unvaccinated will be the majority, a year or so down the road. There will have to be retribution.
I hope the names and addresses of every ‘Covid marshall’ is published, and lists of local ‘Covid marshalls’ should be posted everywhere. People should know who these rats and snitches are.
“shows how infinitely stupid the Powers That Be are”
Mad maybe but not stupid. They are relentlessly using anything to give themselves total power.
Mass testing with equipment not designed to find coronavirus is out of control and has been for nearly two years.
Yes, let’s take a look at Israel…
new cases per million people= 50,
in the UK it is 604.
‘Cases’
FFS.
UK vaccinated:
Those blaming the unvaxxed are not reading the room. Already two jabs are not enough, there has to be a booster – jab 3. Then without that the vaxxed are deemed to be unvaxxed, unless they continue the merry-go-round and keep getting the shots. I wish people would wake up to this horrendous divide and conquer. No-one is safe from and immune to any form of draconian govt measures, irrespective of jab status. It’s not about a virus.
The prospect of having to be jabbed every six months will be unappealing to a lot of people.
I think it’ll wake a lot of people up when they realise that despite having had the original two jabs they’re now considered unvaccinated.
I don’t think I can remember any vaccine that needs such frequent boosters for the same strain.
I don’t think I can remember any big pharma companies that have had such lucrative, guaranteed future income streams.
The stream will dry up as the injected die off. But all part of the plan.
Then what? We have to be the slaves? I don’t see Klaus Schwab, Jeff Bezos, Bojo et al growing their own food or maybe they think AI and robotics will do it for them – more likely take over and kill the “masters”!
I regret that you couold well be right there.
Sad innit?
My wife was saying about the chat on YouGov polling that she does (she does polls as a sort of hobby like others do crosswords) that almost everyone was saying “To hell with this, they told us two jabs and we were free”. The Politicians are so removed from reality they have no idea what is happening in the real world and the entire charade is going to fall down around them next year. It will take one country to bring the Government down and the rest will fall like dominos. You cannot get away with lying to the people, killing the people, covering up what you have done, forever.
Sadly with YouGov, you’re placed into one of two halves of the participants, bit of an echo chamber depending on how you answer the first question.
I actually think Johnson knows this and Krankie is getting there as well, hence the roll back on vax passports to test passports. The EU don’t give a flying fuck about the opinions of their citizens anyway but they might just find they have underestimated there ability to spot the emperor hasn’t any clothes on.
I don’t think Boris and Krankie give a toss about their citizens either. But they may have more foresight and be waiting to see how it goes in the EU first.
So where is the angry mob with pitchforks?
“the entire charade is going to fall down around them next year.”
It’s just another year…
Oh yes, you can get away, just look at the success of China, and even North Korea has been around forever.
I sincerely hope you’re right, but it’s far from a given. Even then it may be a blood bath if the economy collapses.
You’re right. But then the architects of this are globalists who don’t want national governments…
Especially for an illness which you have a 99.8% chance of making a full recovery from.
They are not Vaccines. We’ve all fallen for this con trick, they are a drug, not a Vaccine. Once the penny drops with people it could get interesting.
Not even a drug just a ‘gene the RAPE eeee!’
We didn’t all fall for it Rich, some of us clocked it when we saw what was on the label well before initial distribution.
Not unlike those for cheap sky blue facemasks
“This product is not for use for protection against viruses(sic)”
Later updated with
“including against Covid19 virus”
So many things should have woken people up during the past 18 months but nothing ever does.
I haven’t read that Mail article because it is just a government punt to encourage more people to take jabs one and two when, as the government and nudgers will see it, the great unvaxxed wake up to the fact that they can’t get the booster jab until 6 months after jab #2.
So the currently unvaxxed would be unable to go to Europe (if that story has any truth in it, I would guess that at the moment they are merely speculating) until at least June even if they got their first jab tomorrow.
This rule by implied threat has been a constant theme since before lockdown even began.
Most people couldn’t care less, and the pandemic will end of its own accord. I predict the jab frequency will be later reduced to yearly to match people’s expectations. This global pharma subsidy probably won’t ever be dropped (after all you will get SOME infections every winter, which will then be used as an excuse to keep the project going), though one can still hope.
I think for the most part it will become a new tax on life that will be shrugged off like so many other nonsensical taxes already in place. After all it’s just under hundred bucks per capita forever, maybe a few thousand bucks per person over lifetime, we can afford that.
And you can get a small piece of it back by buying Pfizer stock.
It somewhat resembles the tax on life imposed by Microsoft through their Windows/Office products – which technically you do not HAVE to buy every few years with a new computer, but most people still do. Because most people like to be milked by a big corporation. (Same goes for the “essential” Apple products.)
There are many alternatives to Windows/Office. Not having Windows is not illegal, nor does it shut you out of being able to work, see your family etc.
Forced medical treatment based on a lie is not just another nonsensical tax, and most taxes at least nominally contribute towards some benefit for the taxpayer.
I know. My point is that despite alternatives, people still stick to the inferior/expensive product – voluntarily. So I wouldn’t expect them to do anything when someone forces them into a product while telling them it’s the best in the world. If going against the trend requires extra effort (e.g. learning a new OS or software package), most people won’t make that effort. Convenience wins. Simple as that.
I use Windows, but injecting myself with experimental stuff I probably don’t need is a different matter. Clearly not the case for many though!
GNU/Linux
What might induce the end of the casedemic is if “the markets” are badly spooked by “events dear boy” – inflation, China asset bubble burst a la Japan, US economy goes into reverse or Putin invades the Ukraine with whom he has been at war for some time and the Balkans “ignite”….again. The house of cards built by QE will most certainly fall, the banks go bust as a result – the EU will collapse (because certain members will “look after their own” first and have no compunction about that) and the “Great Reset” might be very different out of necessity. The aftermath of that might make SARS COV2 look like a summer picnic.
Quite a lot of people get a flu jab every year – a practice that is a good indicator of low intelligence. True it is supposed to be different each year, targeting a basket of strains that was decided some time around February. “I’m lardarsed but I always make sure I get my jab.” But let’s not mock.
Hey I had a flu jab 🙁
But having had my eyes opened by the current lies; no more for me. All trust is gone.
Yeah me too. I feel embarrassed I even got my kids vaccinated for chicken pox a few years back (not recommended in UK – commonplace in the US) without even spending a second looking at the arguments.
First year none of us are having the flu jab. I has a vague idea previously that it wasn’t bullet proof, but didn’t realise the extent of it.
I was surprised by how many kids in my daughters class didn’t have it this year; a full third (no idea how many it is normally).
It wasn’t offered to children before, was it? Over 60s, or 65? But the flu jab ain’t dodgy for them, is it? It’s not rna, anyway, just maybe useless.
I’ve had just one flu jab in my life. I was eighteen.. Three score and ten now and as fit as a butchers dog.. ha ha
The ” vaccines” need boosters only because the first and second injections might not kill the lucky recipients quickly enough. So boosters it is.
I’m alive ! I’m Alive!
Think of it as a Microsoft patch update fixing a newly found security flaw (new variant). It bloats your library files (blood), files you are not meant to touch as it cause the operating system to crash.
Like most viruses, they are written by the same guys who developed the OS.
My partner is Slovak we have a property in Nitra and No fucking way no poison for us even if we never return again.My father in law suggested we both should be denied medical care because we remain unpoisoned.Nice thanks
I have a friend in Banska Bystrica. She works for the Police and is very keen on the ‘vaccines’. She knows my opinion (that ‘Covid’ is a complete and utter scam) but we have agreed to stay friends and try to override the governments trying to split up relationships.
I’ve been to Slovakia twice and would happily go again, although from what I read the government there is the same as everywhere else, dead keen on insisting everyone get stabbed so they can have the brown envelopes from the drug pushers.
Yes we should try to stay friends even with differing views. Remain human to each other. Part of the psyops will be to de-humanise a la untermenschen
It gets better – some lawyer today in German news suggested that not only the regular fines should be used, but also driving licenses (!) should be taken away from unjabbed as a valid punishment.
Just the sort of thing Dr Mike predicted….
I’m on the same situation as you are. We visited Nitra last summer. I think we’ll be going to central Slovakia next year anyway (Spišská Nová Ves), we will use every deception we can to avoid the fascism, but I expect in reality that it is all for show and the defiant can freely ignore it all without consequence. Any relatives that follow big pharma’s narrative can kiss my ass and I’ll make sure they have another think coming.
Bugger…
I guess it was never if…. only when?
Charming. My wife and kids may never see their mother/grandmother again. Evil cunts, may they burn in hell for eternity.
Don’t worry, they will.
Absolutely.
They will remind you it was “all your own decision”.
I don’t care what they will remind me of. They are evil and I am not.
I keep reminding myself that if we’d lived in the UK in the late thirties it would have been impossible to imagine ever being able to visit Europe again. Tyranny always falls in the end; may we live to see their downfall.
I’m only evil when I argue with Mrs Dee. Which isn’t often, since, as she reminds me ‘You have to fall asleep some time”.
I’m in the same boat. My parents could come here if they are desperate enough to see me/grandkids. Whilst they don’t have any understanding of my position (total boomers) they have the sense not to whittle on about it.
Let’s see .. holidays in Europe:
Germany/Austria – too serious by half
Italy/Spain – been there
Portugal – bit thin as a country
Malta – will be nice when it’s finished
Poland – nobody there, they’re all over here
Greece – whenever you try and finish your rations your plate ends up smashed on the floor
Holland – bit flat; climb a telegraph pole and you can see the lot
Belgium – a pit of corruption
France – obvious reasons really
No – if they’ll have me again I’ll go to Turkey. At least I can get pleasantly and safely bladdered on raki and pretend that the world is normal once again for a brief few hours.,
Don’t forget this corrupt old bag at THL, Finland’s ‘health authority’:
Hanna Nohynek, a chief physician at the Finnish Institute for Health and Welfare.
“The most important thing would be to get unvaccinated adults vaccinated,”
https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/finland/finland-news/domestic/20441-expert-at-thl-unvaccinated-adults-key-for-burden-on-hospitals.html
“The most important thing would be to get unvaccinated adults vaccinated”.
B.1.1.529 is being ramped up as able to “evade” vaccines. This is what will mark the shift from Stage 2 to Stage 3.
All Greek letters have been taken up to and including mu.
B.1.1.529 is likely to be called “Nu”.
Tony Blair will love it!
Turkey isn’t in EU
How do you prove you’ve had it and recovered?
I have and have, but I’ve no proof, and now I’m bloody immune!
I think you have to have evidence of a positive PCR test and still be alive.
Well, I can do the second.
Its a reasonable point – I caught it months and months and months ago. Everywhere was shut so I didnt bother with a test and just took to my bed for a few days.
So now I cant ‘prove’ Ive had it! Unless I get a fake positive PCR test if such a thing is possible.
Don’t worry, just like common cold you can catch it again every year.
I hope it’s as bad as a cold then. Took 2 weeks to get my energy back, never slept so much.
Yeah – if they’d accept antibody tests, you could get one after your next “booster” of very transitory infection with the latest variant, maybe 24 hours feeling under the weather. But they don’t. Anyway, we can’t pander to their evil nonsense.
Evidence?
People regularly get colds. Coronaviruses cause colds. They always have. That’s enough evidence.
So on the one hand you say covid is just a cold. On the other hand you frequently argue that people are stupid for not getting “vaccinated” against this cold. Yet no one has ever needed to be vaccinated against a cold.
Another point, how many pure-bloods (unvaccinated) have had symptomatic covid more than once? It seems to be only the vaccinated who are complaining of getting ill with covid repeatedly.
Glad to hear your illness was over so fast.
How do you know you had SARSCoV2 if you didn’t have a test, rather than say flu? The symptoms of Covid prior to chest pains and then the pneumonia that is necessary for a diagnosis of Covid are the same as flu symptoms – a cough, high temperature, fatigue, impaired sense of taste and smell.
Blood test for antibodies?
Same here. I didn’t PCR but had all symptoms and lateral flowed positive. You can get antibody and T cell tests but would they accept?
I know where you are coming from – but if you go down route of looking for antibody and T cell tests aren’t you enabling the whole shit show and playing their ‘testing / proof of medical status’ game
“Proof of recovery” is cited by some EU countries CV19 entry requirements?
I’m starting to feel left out, Covid party anyone?
If only it was as easy as person A passing covid on to person B, but no evidence of that exists as far as I’m aware.
The whole place could will be experiencing a civil war by next summer going by the huge demonstrations and bubbling unrest.
Pity to miss it really…. 😂😂😂
By ‘civil war’ do you mean a few people standing outside Drakeford’s house shouting “Freedom!” ??
Constitutionally impossible for Germany. Any German has the right to return to Germany.
Nudge, nudge.
Thank you for mentioning this. At the moment I have no desire to travel to Germany again, I guess my next trip will to attend one of my parents funeral. After that, I do not care anymore.
I wonder if it is the same for Sweden. Website says that Swedish citizens don’t even have to take a test or anything. The constitution guarantees freedom of movement for Swedish citizens so not impossible that that includes entry and exit to the country too.
The “unjabbed Brits” are the cohort that knows to not take the kill shot and subsequent booster kill shots. Not going on holiday is fine for them. They will be busy:
i) Looking for a new job (as they’re not vaxxed).
ii) Stocking up on food with the impending shortages and higher energy costs (Green New Deal turbines and solar panels don’t work well in low wind, dark days).
iii) Even if they got the shot, the lollipop colours for “safe” and “unsafe” countries would change midweek – whilst you are on vacation. (See 2020).
The Unjabbed are the Control Group hence TPTB’s desperate actions in persecuting us.
This is true this is true. I’m moving house already to a more “quiet” location with more land. Monetized our London home whilst the city tanks in price. Can’t go to my work Xmas party as I’m not disclosing my status. Check this out – their requirement to attend is to be a) “fully vaccinated” and b) to take a test and show negative!!!!! The dumbassery has no end. And oh yes forgot to mention I got COVID two weeks ago and am about to take a private antibody test, not that it would make F all difference to these bien pensants
Thinking about doing the same as I have a three-bed in the ‘waitrose belt’ in outer London, and thankfully no mortgage. Hard to convince the wife though.
So far my company hasn’t gone full Covid retard, which surprises me to be honest as it’s a US megacap and fully woke.
Hmm my suspicion is similar. No doubt the government will tell us we can be saved by CBDC and the bloody idiots will believe them. Then it’ll be the BoE running the country.
“Consequences loom for the selfish and ignorant septics” oh dear, how sad, never mind. You’ll all be free to roam England, what more could you wish for?
I have medical reasons for not having the ‘vaccine’, but even if I didn’t (or the reasons aren’t accepted) I wouldn’t have it. I (like most other ‘sceptics’) am most definitely not ignorant.
I am a trained forensic toxicologist, with 10 years’ experience, plus a degree in Chemistry and a PhD in Organic Synthetic Chemistry. I know what medications and illicit drugs do in and to the human body.
Why are people who don’t have the so called ‘vaccine’ selfish? If the ‘vaccines’ work, then the recipient is protected and someone else’s status is irrelevant. If it doesn’t work, then there’s no point anyone having it.
Why the assumption we all live in England? Even if some do, they can go to Scotland or Wales or NI. You’re still free to travel throughout the UK.
The story is that these ‘vaccines’provide a certain percentage of protection, and that if two people who come into close contact are both ‘vaccinated’ then that provides a bigger chance of not catching ‘it’, not spreading ‘it’, and if either or both get ‘it’ then their symptoms and chance of death are reduced.
Some people claim these vaccines are 100% safe and effective, which is probably being “economical with the truth”.
The bottom line is that nobody knows if these vaccines are any good or not, most of the evidence is pointing to ‘not’ but that’s only of you can believe in ‘case numbers’ for a start (based on tests that may or may not work).
I think most people would like to forget about ‘Covid’ and get back to normal but there are people making a lot of money out of this and they are not going to give up their bone without a fight. The answer is to remove these people from their positions, but encouraging or suggesting that is labelled as “inciting insurrection” and we’re not allowed to do that as it’s bad for ‘The Cause’. And so we go round in circles.
no vaccines are 100% effective – why do you crave absolutes so?
Stop being so obtuse – the government has promoted the ‘safe and effective’ lie from the start.
Nadhim Zahawi, Sajid Javid and Boris Johnson have all claimed they’re 100% safe and effective. Oh, and Devi Sridhar too.
I said “some people claim”.
what would expect of such ghouls? and whats the point of referencing the effluvia of proven liars?
If Kill Bill and Dr. Mengle Frautzi tell you the “current” vaxxes aren’t working and we need a “new” way of doing it… then what more proof do you need?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tlx8WTKAgVY
https://www.bitchute.com/video/UgJBrxFdkpvR/
At best and depending on many factors these transfection gene therapies give you limited immunity for a few months… then fuck all as they wane and fade, hence boosters. .
And because these are the very same dated tech products from two years ago – they compound the side-effect profile with at best limited extra temporary protection.
All these products can do is limit symptoms for maybe the vulnerable – that’s it. If you’re fit and healthy the risk profile should make you think very carefully indeed.
Do they stop you catching SARS Cov2? No
Do they stop you from passing SARS Cov2 on? No
Even the triple jabbed, quadruple, quintuple or sextuple pricked as it will go if elderly they will still be arriving in hospitals and dying of the Delta Bengal Tiger plus loyalty rewards variant – FACT.
So maybe think on why any Govt in global lockstep would need to limit travel, access and social behaviors via a digital-bio-security matrix?
G77, Amazed that the rabid ProJab “usual suspect(s)” have not jumped in here with some mindblowingly irrelevant “fact deflection exercise”…will check later.
“If the ‘vaccines’ work …”
Stop it with all the logic. The oddest thing is the sheeple have been told they can still get infected and spread yet they still blame the unvaxed and have boosters. Go figure. It’s a religion.
A bit like ‘taking Communion’ but only every few months.
Dear Septic, hmmmm your simplistic ignorance of infectious disease control is staggering for such a certified individual. University of not very bright was it? As to whether Wales, Scotland or NI let the unvaccinated past their borders, well that will be entirely up to them. Unless medically exempt why would they want such individuals?
Why not post under your name, love, so we can check your qualifications?
‘Unless medically exempt why would they want such individuals?’
Mmmm, maybe because ‘vaccinated’ and ‘unvaccinated’ can equally spread the (not-very life-threatening) virus? And the ‘unvaccinated’ who have caught the virus and recovered, have natural immunity, which is at least 7 times more effective than the jabs.
agree with some of that but.. vaxed people falling ill will be less likely require hospital treatment and overwhelm the available resources. ICU beds are far more thinly spread in our favourite holiday areas.
As for antibody testing why isnt it being done now? but are you now arguing for antibody test passports? a fully vaxxed population is the way to avoid such sinister ID/paperwork.
You call the paperwork ‘sinister’, but not the idea of forced (or coerced) vaccination?
don’t agree with forced vaccination – do agree that personal choices usually have consequences.. The Dispossessed is a narrative sketch of utopia but sadly that’s not what is.
While people who care about the liberty of the individual are distracted by pragmatic public heath measures of little (and temporary) real consequence the tories are destroying our Freedoms and consolidating power for an emerging police state. #policingbill
And, last time I checked, the unvaccinated are not “shedding” spike protein in their perspiration, saliva and exhalations, unlike the vaccinated which do and can cause harm to the unvaccinated.
That puts the unvaccinated in a stronger position every time in my book.
why oh why oh why do you believe unscientific nonsense about “shedding spike protein” – so vulnerable, so naive, and a blessing to septic wanna be gurus everywhere. https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/covid-19-vaccine-shedding-nonsense/
If the ‘vaccines’ work, not everyone has to have it to control the spread. That’s how ‘herd’ immunity works – be it natural or drug based. The protected (naturally or medically) protect the rest – be that those who can’t have it or those that choose not to have it.
On this basis alone, they are clearly not very effective.
you describe the basics of herd immunity – and then say that “they are clearly not very effective” The POINT is to stop those who contract the virus from getting seriously ill. That’s all. Who cares if 100% of the population contracts the virus as long as they dont come to serious harm? like many other viruses we live with.
You, presumably, will be free to roam the Continent, thus leaving “England” free for the rest of us.
The problem is he’ll probably return.
Still he’;s got the clot-shot so there’s a high chance he’ll not be able to post for long.
I’d say that France is an ideal destination for an agent provocateur. Other places offer a free high-pressure “on street” shower, or alternatively, enjoy a “duck in shooting gallery” experience just a short trip away across the North Sea.
It’s easier to return from France, if you don’t get seasick in a dinghy.
thanks for your concern scumbag – got my booster today and feeling great!
Oh you definitely are Neil Ferguson.
he’s a bit too reductive for my taste – you can call me Marvin
Dear ScumTwatPrattStick…
This whole sharp, short, shock-jock caustic fuckwit persona thing isn’t really working out for you here is it?
It’s a marginal premise to begin with low-brow nightly barking your way into the forums abusively toward the DS audience.
Indeed… do stick around but try to work it a tad harder than being a repetitive septic one trick pony….
Hate alternative points of view? then dont claim to be a sceptic, snowflake.
Admit it, you cant get enuf Gal, but your poorly rhymed, wit-free, passive aggressive schizo shtick aint doing much for your cred.
So much bile from such a peacefully named avatar.
No, no. Neil didn’t bother after Covid cos though he isn’t a virologist or biologist he has been told the basics.
You won’t be feeling great for much longer.
still feeling great
Perhaps you should get your mummy to check under your bed this evening to see if the bogeyman is hiding under it?
Scared of the Covids. Pathetic.
oh no, I’m staying right here, probably go to Scotland, hopefully they will be stopping the septic on the border.
What’s your avatar? Is that the curve being flattened?! Are you Neil Ferguson?!
Its lovely gorgeous Gaussian distributions curves of course. The antidote to binary zealots.
Perhaps others here are cleverer than I am and understand most of your posts, but I am afraid most of them go right over my head, so they are probably not having the intended impact.
It’s odd how some people can be so intelligent and like to bathe in the glow of their perceived wit… yet at the same time completely oblivious to the fact that they’re being scammed big time.
Think you are wasting your time – such is the level of their intellect, they will never be able to assimilate something that simple, straightforward and self evident. I think that is what a retired career military man of my acquaintance called “Bullshit baffles brains”
..perceived.. :-(. Have you thought of the possibility of turning that round ? not that you arent RIGHT in all things of course but is there not a possibility that you are being scammed.. bigly
you’ll learn
Looking forward to the diary. Quite cold and rainy, some excellent people. They hate you English though.
If you go to Scotland it is actually surprising how many up there are English/from England. You’ll find that 50% of the fishermen in Scotland are Polish and Estonian.
Corby has a bigger percentage of Scots than any town in Scotland.
https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-28225325
Day1 : Porridge – dreich – despair at how easily people are led..but Hebredian sky 🙂
Will you be visiting Nessie?
If he has taken the jabs, he won’t be around for too much longer. I don’t know why he’s wasting the limited time he has left trolling on here.
still feeling great thanks for your concern
No the selfish ones are the people who are forcing other people to take an experiential ‘vaccine’ to give them at best 6 months protection from a virus they have a better than 99.8% chance of making a full recovery from.
except no one is being forced – which as it happens I agree with – except for the septics – tie them down and give them the lot !
More common ground! So exciting!
God you are absolutely VILE aren’t you?
Septics?
yes thats you – septic – for there are no sceptics btl on this page of head chaff
The injection has already reduced your ability to use capital letters. We will pray for you.
thanks Sandra I need it, who is the god of grammar pedantry?
Better a sceptic than a child killer
The Lake District, Yorkshire Dales, long distance footpaths everywhere, great scenery, mild but changeable weather, exhilarating gusts on the Pennines, sunny sheltered bays of Devon, majestic mountains of Scotland, whisky shops in Craigellachie and Elgin, a myriad of tiny lanes for cycling along.
If you fancy a trip to India try West Bromwich, a trip to Pakistan and Dewsbury is your oyster, every high street lined with Polish shops, and Soho for the flavour of the exotic Far East (smelly old dried ducks in their fridges and cans of lychee syrup). The UK has it all! No need to travel abroad.
Exactly, good ol Blighty! not sure Scotland will be that keen on the unclean tho’
We’ll nurse you when you have your heart attack, don’t worry.
I’ll visit you in prison when the tories have locked you up for protesting.
as it happens I am hoping to go of a heart attack – not for a while mind you – but its defo one of the best ways to go X
Everything is becoming a subscription model, even games and software. You no longer own anything. After a few days of no broadband I realized how valuable owning DVDs are versus owning pure digital copies. Even “owning” a movie on amazon prime is essentially renting as you are tied to Amazon or whatever platform you’re subscribed to.
Cash and ‘real stuff’: it’s all one. Until they discontinue ATMs and dvd players or your Windows refuses to work!
Speaking as someone who still has his library of (real) books, I’ll be fine and dandy then.
Yeah, me too. I’ve been busy building up a lovely library of interesting books … plenty to keep me occupied at home.
Owning books, and the act of writing things down on paper, are on the verge of becoming seditious. I’ve got in the habit now of whenever I see something online which might be useful in an emergency, or in a situation where the state cracked down on me, I don’t just bookmark it on my browser – I scribble it down on a piece of paper and tuck it into the pages of a relevant book on the shelves. Recipes with dried food, DIY bodgejobs, that sort of thing.
Fingers crossed that one day those pieces of paper will flutter to the floor, and i’ll think, what a daft, conspiracy-theorist prepper I was back then. But for now, it just makes it a little easier to sleep at night and look forward to the morning.
should use an archiver and bookmark the archived link?
Thanks. But I’m 60. I have absolutely no idea what that means!
More to the point, I just don’t want to be reliant on internet access. So, it’s pen and paper rather than archiver and bookmark for me.
The archiver is there to ensure it is not modified post linking.
There are ways to save HTML as PDF files and you could save onto a memory stick.
Er …
And the last book in their sights, the real target, is the Bible.
I was raised Jewish but lapsed as a teenager (following an acrimonious family breakdown) and never looked back. The other day I bought a menorah and a yarmulke and found myself reading the old testament to my young daughter, such is my growing awareness and inability to account for the unspeakable evil we are faced with. I now feel like science and technology are my mortal enemies. I have spent the last 25 years mocking and picking apart religion and spirituality. But that’s not something I can do any longer. In the words of a Muslim friend of mine: “something’s going on.”
You buy a printer and save on the scribbling.
I’ve twice bought a printer, and in both cases all it achieved was to support the recycling industry.
Besides, if you just print something off, it’s easy to forget you ever did it. I’ve found I remember things easily if I’ve summarized them and written them down.
Yes! Me too.
I’ve disabled auto updates on Windows using that “metered data” option i.e. assume my internet is chargeable by data usage.
The main driver is that the basic needs of most people are satisfied. If you cannot make someone’s property disappear and exhort money from them to buy it again by way of “subscription”, they would probably not buy your new product at all.
This also used to be the case for vaccines, of course. You can only profitably sell them if you are able to force buyers to buy them. It has been the case for all the previous vaccines on the market. They used to be a very poor business model from pharma’s perspective, a loss driver even. But when you can force billions of “customers” into buying them, then you can exploit economies of scale to reduce production costs and make the model very profitable indeed.
As long as your product doesn’t end up killing everyone…
My experience is that large corporations struggle to plan beyond 2-3 years. Something to do with the executive compensation plans.
Pharma are evil but more evil are the governments who enable it. Firms will naturally lie and cheat to make more money if they are allowed to get away with it.
“Everything is becoming a subscription model”
You will own nothing and be happy?
And hold on to books. A time is coming when we will not be able to download books with which the Government disagrees.
It might be an idea to buy (and keep in reserve) a couple of DVD players!
“It comes as the continent tries to control a rising wave of Covid infections, with leaders targeting the unvaccinated for the harshest measures.”
It comes as leaders on the continent realise they may soon be found out in their Big Lie, so they double down on the fascism.
I wonder how much the EU is willing to bribe Spain, Portugal and Greece to implement these plans that hurt their tourist economy?
Dunno why Germany doesn’t just invade everyone all over again – they’ve been itching to do that since 1945.
Boycott Lidl and Aldi!
No, no, I need to hoard cans of cheap soup against the economic collapse.
No problemo!
It’s a good way to keep those jab sales going! Keep ’em going! Don’t let the opportunity of making more profits from it go to waste. Not a single opportunity should ever be lost.
Feel free to copy and repost:
Vrai, but add an escape option: ‘f**k ’em?’
I have no intention of travelling to the EU anyway so ban away!
It’s as silly as crossing the iron curtain after the Berlin went up, isn’t that right Merkel?
And the plan to have frequent boosters is out…. no denying it anymore jabbers. Start thinking about the Russian Roulette game of horrendous side effects you’ll be playing
Anything can be put into the ‘boosters’ now that people have no choice but to continue taking them to keep their Vaxx Passes valid. Even if the pharma companies admitted every second one had rat poison in it, people would still take the chance.
warfarin might help treat if administered with the clot shots.
I’m sure it saved a fat mate who got jabbed.
Only reason I renewed my passport in 2020 was in case I could get a one way ticket out in the future. European ‘holidays’ are not on my radar, I’m past caring lol.
I renewed my passport in Jan. 2020.
Worst time in history, it now seems.
Maybe I should demand a refund.
Words fail me.
How much more against the Human Rights and their own European convention and right of free movement with EU states is this?
Other countries are available to be the recipient of my tourist money. Sorry Spain, it was lovely while it lasted.
Incredible …
“Red Cross urgently needs blood donors (unvaccinated). “The antibodies of vaccinated people are wiped out and make the convalescent plasma ineffective for helping COVID-19 patients.”
https://twitter.com/i/status/1457945433242804225
Bloody hell. That explains why commercial radio is advertising for plasma donors, not blood donors – plasma.
Turns out we will have a job after all!
From the blood doantion website:
“Red Cross urgently needs blood donors (unvaccinated)…. that’s fake news.
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Bloody hell – that answers my question from last week.
How will that work for Southern Ireland?!?
Will they have to leave the EUSSR or break the agreement?
And for all those in NI who live in a border region and have to cross the border on a daily basis for work or other social/economic reasons
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/59421139
Charlie Wyke: Wigan striker in hospital after collapsing in training
Another vaccident?
Adama Traore FC Sherrif Tiraspol collapsed yesterday, guy from Sheffield United collapsed the day before yesterday and this Wigan one reported today. Then there’s Sergio Aguero with his new arrhythmia, the Danish Euros guys. The guy at the Bristol City match a while back. I can’t keep up. And that’s just football.
And a semi-pro footballer, Leon Taylor, died suddenly this week
https://www.expressandstar.com/sport/football/non-league/2021/11/25/tributes-flood-in-after-death-of-footballer-leon-taylor-36/
“We ask people respect the privacy of Charlie and his family”…..translation….. “please don’t ask Charlie or his family any questions as they have been gagged by a non-disclosure order, along with everyone they know”.
https://summit.news/2021/11/24/former-pro-calls-for-investigation-after-another-football-player-suddenly-collapses/
CORONAVIRUSFormer Pro Calls For “Investigation” After Another Football Player Suddenly Collapses
https://twitter.com/mattletiss7/status/1463293327030247426
Mark of the Beast syndrome comes into view once more.
Strange how that phrase seldom seems to get aired these days…
Not forgetting also:
Revelation:{16:2} …and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and [upon] them which worshipped his image….
Clickbait. Delete.
I’ll say no more
Who do you think you are kidding Mrs Merkel?
Fine by me. Wouldn’t enjoy myself abroad anyway. Wearing a face mask on the beach and everywhere you go. I’d rather stay here thanks.