Five Bayern Munich Players Hit With Pay Cut For Refusing to Get Vaccinated
Five unvaccinated footballers who play for German club Bayern Munich have had their wages docked by the club as they have had to spend time in quarantine due to being in close proximity to a Covid-positive person. The football club had previously stated that they will not pay the wages of any player forced into self-isolation as a result of their personal choice not to receive the vaccine. Recently, the five footballers have also been banned from staying in the same hotel as the vaccinated players due to Germany tightening its Covid restrictions. MailOnline has the story.
Bayern Munich have docked the wages of their five unvaccinated players who were forced to quarantine due to coming into contact with a Covid-positive person.
Serge Gnabry, Joshua Kimmich, Jamal Musiala, Eric Maxim Choupo-Moting and Michael Cuisance have all been told by the German club that they will not be paid for every game or day of training they miss when self-isolating after they all refused to get the vaccine.
According to German news outlet Bild, Bayern told the players last week that they would be withholding pay if anyone missed work due to being unvaccinated.
The report comes days after Bayern suffered a shock 2-1 defeat at the hands of local rivals Augsburg on Friday, which saw Kimmich, the midfield star for both Bayern and Germany, miss the encounter after he was forced to quarantine.
Gnabry started that match, while Musiala and Choupo-Moting came on as substitutes, while Cuisance was an unused substitute. Those four players were all then placed into quarantine following a new exposure to Covid, hours after the reports about pay cuts emerged in Germany.
Their Bayern team-mates Niklas Sule and Josip Stanisic had tested positive for Covid last week, with the club confirming that those two players were vaccinated.
Tensions are high in Germany with the country in the grip of a fourth wave of cases and many hospitals full. It has one of the lowest vaccination rates in Western Europe, with 68% of people fully vaccinated. “By the end of this winter everyone in Germany will either be vaccinated, recovered or dead,” Health Minister Jens Spahn said on Monday.
The news of withheld wages comes less than a week after the five Bayern players were told that they have been banned from staying in the same hotel as their team-mates ahead of a match and must travel to games separately too due to tightening restrictions in the country, which is experiencing a spike in Covid cases.
German news publication Kicker are reporting that the five players are irritated that news of their docked wages has been leaked publicly.
The damning report also revealed that there has been a loss of trust from the players, with team morale low as a result.
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Can’t see how this can be done without a change in contract?
Their contracts will probably be stuffed with clauses saying what they must not put into their bodies.
Will be interesting to see if it works the other way around.
This is part of the German equivalenty of sick pay (Lohnfortzahlung im Krankheitsfall). That’s meanwhile legally optional for the employer when unvaccinated employees have to quarantine for any reason (as far as I know).
Screw the contract. If the rest of the squad stuck up for them, that would be end of that pretty quickly.
My standard question to those who stand by while colleagues are fired or discriminated against is: where do you draw the line? Will you say anything when they are incarcerated? How about if they are quietly eliminated? Probably not a word, ever. That’s the grim truth.
First they came for the midfield.
Good for them, they should use for illegal coercion.
Germany has a fairly robust constitution when it comes to the protection of citizens rights against an overbearing State, or in this case its creature Bayern Munich.
🙄 ‘they should sue’
ROTFLMAO. The no longer democratically legitimated[*] Merkel-junta abolished the constitution in 2020.
[*] The lady isn’t legally allowed another term in office and is current acting as caretaker chancellor while coalition negotiations are ongoing. She’s already busy with trying to pressure the next legitmate government into adjusting its designated COVID policy to her liking.
I guess it’s just coincidence that neither Germany, Holland or Italy has a democratically elected government at present.
Ireland too has some strange set up. And U.K. devolution’s dream dilutes accountability still further.
New Zealand too.
Jacinda’s got The Covids and is in bed feeling a little hoarse.
I like the horse. But the other is just disgusting!
Who would want to shag her? Perhaps from behind, as a stallion would do a mare?
She’s got an Adam’s apple and a bulge in her trousers…just saying…
Incestuous mare.
That’s probably more of an artefact of the wonderful proportional representation voting system: Tendencially, this will produce a fractured parliament with 3 – 5 party groups having about the same vote share with none of them being even remotely close to having the support of a majority of voters. The end effect is a coalition government formed of a number of parties each of which a majority of voters rejected.
In the Netherlands, the ruling coalition fell apart and since then, no new one could be formed. In Germany, negotations are ongoing and will probably not finish for many months to come. Reportedly, they have a real government in Italy but led by a prime minister who’s not an elected politician himself.
I’ve called this kind of democracy a system of organised stasis in the past: It’s designed such that nothing ever happens because all parts neutralize each other. This will obviously not work very well in any crisis, even in a mock crisis like the current one. I also strongly suspect that it is very much intended to work in this way, at least for Germany: Keep the Germans busy with squabbling, then, they won’t interfere with anyone.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Condorcet_paradox
Our own Parliamentary system could, in theory, allow for a non political figure to become Prime Minister so long as he could rely on the support of a majority of members of the Commons.
Change of subject.
How is Geert Wilders doing these days, he’s become a non-person on UK media.
Where does he stand on covid/lockdown and vaccines?
Or London.
Is that real or hyperbole on your part?
Genuine question as I don’t know.
Their Constitution was designed to stop another power hungry manic coming to power, from what you imply the Ost Deutch Frau has quite easily subverted it.
She is a German version of Putin, elevated by a large proportion of a gullible populace to the position of “Mutti” the Mother of Germany.
“Germany has a fairly robust constitution when it comes to the protection of citizens rights against an overbearing State”
Can’t say I’ve noticed recently.
See my reply to RW above, 2 up.
It’s one reason their States (Lander) were given so much more power than our own local government; they were intended to act as a counterweight to over powerful central government but, in some cases, they seem to have been even more keen on regulations and mandates, Hesse in particular.
Robust? You jest surely. The German constitution has on the contrary failed its citizens where their freedoms are concerned.
Well done players for holding to your principles! No one should decide but the individual what medical interventions are taken. Gives me some hope but it’s going to get very tough for them by the sound of it in Germany.
Not just in Germany. But not being volunteered for the “poison death shots” is the only way to go.
All that’s needed now is for the Israeli Government to pop over and show the Germans how to do it properly!
The German Pfizer showed the Israelis who was boss some time ago…
Meanwhile Sergio Aguero faces retirement at 33 due to heart problems.
This is a known cardiac problem that was picked up at 15 years of age. He collapsed/fainted in 2017, maybe on other occasions, and was taken to hospital as a precaution because of his medical history.
Agüero joined Barcelona in the early summer and would have had a very thorough medical prior to being signed. Clearly no obvious heart problem of concern was found at the time. We know that he has been “vaccinated” and we know that the “vaccines” can cause cardiac issues and sometimes death. The vaccine should be suspected as being the probable cause of the Agüro’s retirement unless it can be shown to be otherwise. There are strong grounds to be sceptical and of course we are here to sceptical, so why are you giving the vaccine a free ride?
I am not giving the vaccine a free ride by any means, but I am being sceptical about whether it is fully responsible for Aguero retiring that’s all. We don’t know the reason, but it is possible he has started to develop a cardiomyopathy as a lot of elite athletes do, ,and given his history this has to be considered. You cannot separate a persons medical history. The vaccine may have exacerbated a problem. All the testing in the world didn’t stop Mwamba or Foe collapsing.
The problem is that if you’re not careful, scepticism gives over to dogma. If there’s a problem then it must be the vaccine.
I wonder if this would still apply if they were vaccinated, then got Covid, then isolated.
No, it doesn’t.
If ‘vaccinated’, then lost wages are reimbursed in full.
These players didn’t catch anything by the way. They have to isolate because they were in contact with several others who tested positive, who were all ‘vaccinated’.
It makes me want to scream, and the sheep can’t see it.
Let’s hope the unvaccinated ask those who tested positive for their lost wages!!
Couldn’t they be allowed to play but wearing some kind of badge to show they are unclean?
Thinking some kind of emblem like a star or something similar. The badge would need to be a bright colour so it can be seen from a distance
Barbed wire around the unclean hotel might help. Hotel Ghetto has a certain ring
Just trying to help
Elsewhere on this site I read that the UK vax rate is 68% and the EU average is about 57%. Yet this article says Germany’s rate is 68% and it has “one of the lowest rates in Europe”. Which, if any, is true?
Corona boilerplate phrase the Mail keeps reusing.
The rates of vaccination and double-vaccination in Germany are about average for the EU.
Source: Our World in Data. That graph shows the “EU” rates, which I assume are calculated by numbers vaccinated divided by the size of the EU population. “Average” can mean many different things, and there are probably types of average that can be chosen that will show Germany as having low rates or high rates.
As far as Europe goes – i.e. inside and outside the EU – Germany has high rates. (At the same site, you can choose to show figures for Europe as well as the EU. I have no idea whether they count the European parts of Russia, Kazakhstan, and Turkey – of which the first has by far the largest population – as in Europe or not.)
They are both true, and every other official narrative is true, even and especially the ones that appear (to science denying anti-vaxxers) to be contradictory.
Say it with me…Ivor McTcin has ties to the IRA and Al Qaeda…they hate our freedoms…
Unsurprisingly, the Mail is misreporting this: Docking wages for unvaccinated employees who have to quarantine because someone else tested positive (I personally know someone affected by this were said someone else was vaccinated) is a general policy of the German government.
If I was a football director of a league 1 EFL team, I’d be considering an offer for these players in the January transfer window. Something along the lines of “we will not ask you about personal medical procedures, you will not feel like a second rate player and we will pay you every day you are with us…in fact, you will be league heroes!”
Worth a go….
Gnabry and Kimmich are both German internationals. Would be quite a coup.
Joshua Kimmich would walk into any Premiership team.
Not Liverpool, Klopp hates antivaxxers.
They’re as bad as drink drivers, according to him.
I know- Klopp’s conformity to the agenda was very disappointing. Fortunately, Liverpool are about the only Premiership team Kimmich wouldn’t be guaranteed a place in- he’d have to displace Trent Alexander-Arnold, and at the moment I can’t see anybody doing that.
I think a bigger point would be made, if the players moved to a lower League club, without pressures of playing in “Europe”, with restrictions, to enjoy being loved again by both team and fans. I would definitely be putting offers in for a few players….there will be some willing to make the move. Just looking to get out before the other sort of training camps open.
“Their Bayern team-mates Niklas Sule and Josip Stanisic had tested positive for Covid last week, with the club confirming that those two players were vaccinated.”
Anybody? Bueller?
And suppose they were to get vaccinated and suffer a heart attack, would they then have their wages docked as a result of being unable to play?
No.
They might get a funeral paid for, but would they then receive any other recompense if they were then permanently disabled or prevented from playing professionally again i.e. is there, for example, a German Government vaccine damage compensation?
…is there, for example, a German Government vaccine damage compensation?
Even if there was, would it cover a top footballer’s wage, seems unlikely.
It’s better than that: Everybody who wants to get vaccinated Germany has to sign a form stating this is his voluntary decision, that he has been informed about the possible negative consequence and he is willing to proceed at his own risk, ie, in order to get vaccinated, one has to sign away any rights to compensation for vaccine damages.
If they introduce compulsory vaccination, would it also be compulsory to sign the form saying it is voluntary?
That question sounds completely mental, but I bet it’s been discussed high up in the medical insurance world.
What’s voluntary in German?
Freiwillig?
Am I reading this right? The named, unvaxxed players have their pay docked for having to quarantine or miss training when they are healthy; and a vaccinated player tests positive for Covid and it’s tickety-boo?
Can’t they train together after-hours, or wouldn’t that be punishment enough? Nobody’s even pretending to be fair or equitable any more.
Who would ever trust authorities ever again.
I set off an alarm in local Sainsbury’s this afternoon lifting up a paper poster covering a pillar that looked like they might turn it into a vax-pass port. Turns out it was the thing that screeches if you leave the store with a security tag still attached. Husband said it’s all getting to me: he’s probably right.
I think it’s getting to all of us that haven’t been brainwashed. It is difficult to keep sane at times, but there are lots of us. More than most people realise, and the number waking up are growing – you can see that from most article comment threads (ignoring the morons who read the Guardian of course).
It is difficult to keep sane at times, but there are lots of us. More than most people realise, and the number waking up are growing
This.
Your guess is right that the same electronic gates will be used to check vaxx passports in the future. The technology is there.
As I have been saying all along. The ‘Vaxx pass’ could be a credit-card sized plastic card with a chip. No latest ‘vaccine’ and it’s made invalid (remotely). Or it could be your bank card itself – easy to link ‘vaccine status’ to your bank account, and, again, no latest update jab and you lose access to your money.
I know some think that’s far fetched. I’ll ask you when I see you standing outside the gate looking glum.
not far-fetched at all
60 -80 million records is a small DataBase
The only issue with a card is if a person lends a card, so there needs to be a biometric ID/pic (manually checked) as well.
It will be interesting to see the reaction of their jabbed-up player colleagues. One would hope that they would stand with their teammates. Somehow, though, I doubt it.
Was Aguero not a high profile enough example? What did I read the other day: this season, we’ve lost 7 elite players to heart issues, as many as the previous seven seasons added together?
12 apparently – https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/theres-something-happening-here-what-it-is-is-increasingly-clear/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_association_footballers_who_died_while_playing#cite_note-169
Very good read.
Again, these clowns don’t seem to see that their policies are illogical and irrational.
So the fully vaccinated players Niklas Sule and Josip Stanisic are the ones who have tested positive, but the unvaccinated players, who have not tested positive, have to quarantine and have their pay cut.
Oh, that makes such a lot of sense! Not.
So much for demonizing the unvaccinated; here it is the fully vaccinated causing the mayhem. But that’s OK, because they’ve been obedient citizens and done as they’ve been told. Pandemic of the unvaccinated, is it?
And then we have this prophecy by German Health Minister Jens Spahn:
Applying a little logic to that, since he believes that the ‘unvaccinated never infected’ group will not exist by next March, what is he proposing to do with them if they remain healthy? Execute them, or mandatorily vaccinate them?
Seems like Germany is rediscovering its facsicm.
“these clowns don’t seem to see that their policies are illogical and irrational.” Au contraire, perfectly logical if the purpose of the policy is to reward the vaxxed for their obedience, and punish and demonise the unvaxxed. Just more politics.
Personally speaking the players should’ve made sure they got fit, got ivermectin and budesonide and vitamin d and then sought out SARS2.
Better than getting Jabbed and then ASLO getting covid later when the jab effects are still with you.
“what is he proposing to do with them if they remain healthy?”
Vaccinate them from a distance?
I asked the sports site The Athletic to run a story summarizing the number of vaccinated college and pro athletes who have “tested positive.” I also asked if one of their reporters would research the percentage of athletes who tested positive who were “asymptomatic” or experienced only very mild symptoms. I asked if they could occassionally mention how many athletes had died or been hospitalized from COVID (zero). Also, what percentage of athletes came back to play their sport after contracting this disease (this is 99.9999 percent).
No editor or reporter followed up on my story suggestions and I was eventually banned from posting in the Comment Section for the offense of defending unvaccinated coaches and athletes.
The narrative is being protected by sports “journalists” and censorship is protecting readers from “harmful” contrarian opinions and facts.
I believe that there are a lot more unvaccinated people out there than we are being told.
So do I; and I think that’s why our masters are becoming increasingly-desperate.
In Britain what denominator is being used when x% are said to have been vaccinated?
We dont even know how many people are in this country.
That’s an important thing. Every single person in the country who is outside the official population count is by definition unvaccinated. When the UKHSA calculate infection/hospitalization/death rates in the unvaccinated, they’re calculating the number of unvaccinated people by deducting the one figure they do know (the number of vaccinated) from the total population.
There are arguments about whether the NHS figure for the total population should be used, or the ONS figure. But the key thing is that for years there’s been suspicions that the total UK population is higher than any official estimate. I mean, we all know one or two people who for one reason or another live and work below the radar, illegal immigrants being the obvious example. Add those to the numbers of unvaccinated, and vaccination efficacy can only go one way – downwards. The question is, by how much?
“forced into self-isolation as a result of their personal choice”
No, they were not “forced into self-isolation as a result of their personal choice”, they were forced into self-isolation as a result of madmen who chose for them.
I would suggest to our editor to get out of habit of using this sort of double-speak, as it is very unhygienic for the mind.
Three cheers for these gallant
Jewsfootballers.But they were FORCED to isolate! They didn’t choose to ‘bunk off work’, work ‘bunked them off’!
So Bayern Munich agree with the persecution of minority groups ?
The majority of Germans are “vaccinated”. The minority are not. So it’s all good to persecute minority groups now. And I thought 2020 was a confusing year, actually hang on. Is it 1936 ?
Have Munich mixed up Putsch and Pitch?
Washington State University in America fired five of their football coaches, including the head coach, last month for refusing to get vaccinated. This has gotten hardly any attention. I’ve seen no media person defend these coaches’ right to make their own health decisions or castigate WSU for firing these coaches.
Unvaccinated athletes are second-class citizens; this is legal apartheid/discrimination.
And how many professional athletes have died from COVID in the past 20 months?
… How many young, healthy athletes have already died or suffered cardiac events after being vaccinated? This is a State Secret, taboo territory for “watchdog” reporters.
https://www.notonthebeeb.co.uk/post/surge-of-sports-people-worldwide-suffering-unexpected-ill-health
This (partial) summary is so important. Please keep posting. I’ve reached the conclusion that the only way this vaccine agenda could be stopped (and people actually quit blindly trusting the experts and authorities) is if some high-profile vaccinated athlete dies on live television. I don’t know how this tragedy could be censored and go uncommented on, but they would probably try.
You mean like what happened on live television during the Euros 2020 football tournament in June 2021? Technically, he who can’t be named, died from a cardiac arrest, with no concerning medical history or identified cause. The only “fact check” I’ve seen is a football coach (not currently managing the footballer) saying he had not had the vaccine. This comment is irrelevant, as the footballer was playing for his country and had been with them for weeks.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s0B03LSzXvo
this?
I recommend this Yahoo Live story about a 21-year-old Tennessee golfer who developed myocarditis after his vaccination. It’s very rare such a story about “adverse reactions” even gets published by an establishment corporate media organization. However, if you read the entire story you will see that the true purpose was to reinforce the message that adverse reactions are extremely rare even among healthy young people, and that the risk of a severe case of COVID is much higher. Furthermore, the article defends the decision of Tik Tok to remove a video where this student athlete discusses his vaccine-caused case of myocarditis. So the article is pro-vaccine and pro-censorship. The article also includes dubious data from a doctor defending the vaccines. Dr. Eric Stecker, chair of the American College of Cardiology Science and Quality Council, tells Yahoo Life: “… The CDC has analyzed the risk-benefit trade-off and found that for every million doses administered of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines for people ages 12 to 29, approximately 6 deaths, 138 ICU admissions, 560 hospitalizations and 11,000 infections from COVID-19 will be avoided,” he notes. Parsing this statement: Note the doctor states/implies that in a random sample of 1 million people aged 12 to… Read more »
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Fair play to them. It’s the vaccinated players with covid who should be legally responsible for the loss of earnings following this through to its logical conclusion.
im sure they’ll survive on their decreased sáleles so the levers at the clubs disposal are clearly weak here.
Couldn’t they go on strike, and raise the profile of the tyranny? I wouldn’t work for an employer who did this to me (without a written statement of reasons, then I could sue later, if sacked).
Any club ‘buying them’ would be making a statement for freedom and justice.
If I was one of these players I’d leave! Team mates not sticking up for them by the sound of it. The club will suffer if all of them decided to leave.
Funny how two vaccinated players tested positive isn’t it?
They obviously caught it off an unvaccinated unter mensch type who was within 30 feet of them at some point in the past !
NFL star quarterback Arron Rodgers recently caught hell for not being vaccinated and not being forthcoming about his vaccination status. Rodgers tested positive and was forced to quarantine for 10 days although he was never really “sick.”
Rodgers did mention that he almost certainly caught the virus from a vaccinated teammate or coach.
The epidemiological relevance of the COVID-19-vaccinated population is increasing
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2666776221002581
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It looks like the Heirs of Mengele have rubbed out the Nuremberg Protocols.
5 times as many FIFA players have dropped dead on the pitch in September and October this year that in either 2019 or 2020. They were jabbed, on the balance of probabilities based on team policies.
They can’t do this, the players need to revolt and do it quick. But there’s a wider issue, society needs to smash these dictators squarely in the jaw and remind them that it is not acceptable to treat others with prejudice no matter how worthy they think their cause might be.
If you know anybody who supports this, start attacking them physically. A good beating is the only thing these arseholes who shut down debate and opinion will respond to.