Dozens of Ships Stuck in Arctic as Ice Freezes Early, Contradicting Global Warming Claims
More than two dozen cargo vessels are stuck in Russia’s Arctic ice, waiting for ice-breakers to come to their rescue, after an inaccurate forecast from the country’s Met Office. The Telegraph has more.
Maritime traffic in the Northern Sea Route has been on the rise in recent years as rapidly warming winters reduce ice cover, and Russia invests in its Arctic ports in preparation for a further boom.
But this year several segments of the Northern Sea Route froze up about a fortnight earlier than usual, catching many ships unawares.
Alexei Likhachyov – director general of Russia’s state-owned nuclear energy company Rosatom, which manages the country’s nuclear-power fleet of ice-breakers – said on Monday that the ships included vessels sailing under the flags of Hong Kong and Marshall Islands.
He blamed the Russian Met office for a forecast that failed to predict the early ice, in comments to local media.
Worth reading in full.
Worth remembering that Antarctica recently recorded its coldest six months on record.
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The Guardian during COP26 had a little dashboard on its home page showing some graphics which apparently illustrated the imminent climate emergency.
One of them showed the extent of Arctic sea ice supposedly falling over a period of years, with a small uptick towards the end of the period.
But when you looked at the small print it explained that the graph showed the extent of Arctic sea ice over a period which ended 11 years ago in 2010.
I think we can guess why the Guardian didn’t use data from the last ten years. Arctic sea ice is growing in extent and has been for some time now.
Antarctic sea ice has grown too, except for the bit under the volcanoes.
Over?
Beat me to it. Only by 15 hours! 🤣
All 91 of them as well. Undiscovered until 2018, but of course it’s CO2……
And we all know that DJ Trump set them off.
realarthurdent is a FRAUD : https://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
as well as a shameful disgrace to Douglas Adams and very much the sort of man who does not have a clue where his towel is.
A more honest appraisal of Arctic Sea Ice, brought to you courtesy of the Danish Meteorological Institute, y’know, the people actually responsible for monitoring it. http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/icecover.uk.php
Doing rather nicely.
y’know septic sweaty RedhotScot is deliberately misleading by picking and choosing data to confirm his bias. Sums this septic site up really.
The DMI’s give their ACTUAL view of the ice state HERE : http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/index.uk.php
how interesting that you go silent when confronted with evidence that gives the lie to your entirely false and misleading septic narrative
The DMI view of ice state: http://ocean.dmi.dk/arctic/index.uk.php
Guardian said climate, weather or whatever was going to destroy the world by 2020…..
The Guardian also said, and quite recently…Covid in Hospitals Has “Largely Become a Disease of the Unvaccinated”I find myself using language I have not been inclined to use since I was an instinctively suspicious teenager not trusting a thing my ‘betters‘ told me.
‘Lying CUNTS’!
Some scientists think we are heading for a new ‘minimum’ period of solar activity, last seen when the Thames would regularly freeze over during the middle ages. They could be right, they could be wrong but one thing is for sure; Britain closing it’s fossil fuel power stations will not make a jot of difference.
I’d like to know who’s downvoting your comment.
George Monbiot?
Which of the following would lead to the elimination of humanity the fastest:
a) Nuclear war
b) Dodgy vaccines
c) George Monbiot as world leader
My money’s on c)
b) then c).
BBC journos so called ‘environmental correspondents’?
Starts with Tr and ends with olls…probably paid for. more downvotes indicate more desperation.
Except for the continued livability and crop yields throughout Northern Europe, of course!
Yep. Maunder miminum plus a bunch of other long term cycles.
Whilst I am extremely sceptical about man made climate change, I will have to correct you about the Thames. It used to freeze over because it was wider and therefore slower. Waste soil and clay from Bazalgette building a sewerage system under London was used to create the Embankment which significantly narrowed the river and increased the speed of flow making it much less likely to freeze. Where Somerset House stands now used to be on the bank of the Thames and boats could access the arches that can still be seen on the terrace.
Thank you, always happy to be informed.
So it freezed over as much in the 14th and 15th centuries as in the 17th and 18th?
“Between 1600 and 1814, it was not uncommon for the River Thames to freeze over for up to two months at time. There were two main reasons for this; the first was that Britain (and the entire of the Northern Hemisphere) was locked in what is now known as the ‘Little Ice Age’. The other catalyst was the medieval London Bridge and its piers, and specifically how closely spaced together they were. During winter, pieces of ice would get lodged between the piers and effectively dam up the river, meaning it was easier for it to freeze.”
The “Little Ice Age” is much debated by the scientific community. Whilst nobody denies it occured, there seems to be much dispute as to what caused it.
“Whilst nobody denies it occured”
Other than advocates of Michael Mann’s fraudulent hockey stick graph, including for some time the IPCC, which was eventually forced to quietly remove it from their web site.
However, I notice it’s making a comeback of late.
Wasn’t around then but I did ride my bike across a frozen River Thames at Hampton Court in 1963!
Deep snow covered London from New Year’s Eve until April 1963. I played amateur football in those days and all except league football was cancelled for that season. Root crops were unable to be harvested. It was as bad as 1946/47.
So you completely discount the fact it was colder back then….
No. See my reply to Nearhorburian further down.
You didnt mention that in your initial post, which implied the freezing was all due to changes in river flow..
It was a factor. As was the design of the old London Bridge as described. The problem with debating whether man made climate change exists or not is that either side of the argument is never prepared to accept that the issue isn’t black and white or logical and there are an awful lot of grey areas which science can’t always explain and can only come up with theories which are grasped by zealots on both sides as incontrovertible truth and proof of their argument. As I have mentioned, I’m a man made climate change sceptic, but I still desire to look at all the evidence and possible reasons behind it all.
If you have time, you should offer Toby a piece on the Little Ice Age in Britain.
there is no way to know what the sun will do.
You’ve outdone yourself this time.
Nice one CG, that brought a 😃 smile.
My money is on it rising in the east and then travelling west.
What makes you think that then? 🙂
Except closing our pits and coal-fired power stations will inevitably result in our being alot bloody colder.
Closing the fossil fuel power stations may make a difference to the energy supplies to the people…
Well, it will make one big difference: it will kill many thousands of old people who won’t be able to afford heating the house properly.
Hard of thinking arts student and failure Toad Young in failure to understand complexity non-shocker.
Go on then. Spell it out for us morons.
Do some properly researched background reading moron and see if you can read something without prejudice. https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
Nasa – hahahahaha!
A septic AND a tin foil bigot.
https://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2012/22mar_saber Solar Storm Dumps Gigawatts into Earth’s Upper Atmosphere”flurry of eruptions on the sun did more than spark pretty auroras around the poles. NASA-funded researchers say the solar storms of March 8th through 10th dumped enough energy in Earth’s upper atmosphere to power every residence in New York City for two years. “This was the biggest dose of heat we’ve received from a solar storm since 2005,” says Martin Mlynczak of NASA Langley Research Center. “It was a big event, and shows how solar activity can directly affect our planet.” “Carbon dioxide and nitric oxide are natural thermostats,” explains James Russell of Hampton University, SABER’s principal investigator. “When the upper atmosphere (or ‘thermosphere’) heats up, these molecules try as hard as they can to shed that heat back into space.” [note: these molecules aren’t sentient. They’re not trying hard to do anything, but whatever] For the three day period, March 8th through 10th, the thermosphere absorbed 26 billion kWh of energy. Infrared radiation from CO2 and NO, the two most efficient coolants in the thermosphere, re-radiated 95% of that total back into space.” CO2, one of the most efficient coolants. Lucky we’ve got so much of it. And it’s essential for all life on Earth. https://www.nasa.gov/feature/greening-of-the-earth-mitigates-surface-warming/ Nov 24, 2020… Read more »
Thank-you and yes I’ve read that. Of course CO2 is not some gaseous “evil”, its vital to life and to the complex system of interactions that provides the envelope which life on Earth has adapted to. The hypothesis at issue is that the relative stability of this complex self-balancing system has limits. Not just iro changing ratios of atmospheric gases but also in the timescale over which they occur as well as many other systems that human beings are disrupting.
Check out https://www.stockholmresilience.org/planetary-boundaries
Too complicated for me. Perhaps you could simply bullet point for me why the Arctic ice is growing despite the climate emergency. You tell me without pointing me to another source.
Because other effects are overriding human activity.
No, I don’t have any idea if that is correct but that at a high level is the hypothesis. Also, that the atmospheric system has buffering capability – which is fine unless you push it too far. No one knows what is too far which is why I used to think we shouldn’t push our luck.
well you know what they say “if its too complicated, I cant understand it”
Stick to slagging off handkerchiefs while the tory scum rip away our rights to protest.Good little sheep.
I doubt if any of those here disagreeing with you hold a brief for any political party, far less the Tories.
Ah! He revealed common ground there. We agree with the troll on the right to protest.
while your head is full of septic chaff Sandra the police state consolidates: https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1463282056490852357
p.s. you can call me Marvin
NASA – Never A Straight Answer!
septic scumbags – no f-ing clue
Have you ever considered that your foul mouthed responses tend to underline the paucity of your arguments.
Ooooh, a down-tick. I’m really scared. I take it that was scumbag who has no real reply.
No, of course not! There is neither correlation nor causal link.
Septic morons shall not be spared the lash.
“From the 1920’s to the 1950’s, the Arctic warmed tremendously. Glaciers were disappearing and collapsing, and Arctic sea ice was thinning and shrinking.”
Arctic Sea Ice Unchanged From 60 Years Ago | Real Climate Science
Also a useful read – https://www.beautyandthebeastlytruth.com/
wtaf – is this where you scumbags get your “evidence” no wonder you need the tinfoil. “Real climate science” its all in the name .. bit like the Great Barrington Declaration of neo-liberal wish fulfillment.Do grow up.
You really are an ignorant twat aren’t you?
Indeed he is. That is why like Rayc I have stopped reading his comments.
Watson puts fingers in ears and screams lalala – so septic
I’ll take that as a don’t know. Why don’t you explain in your own words?
yr banal cheap trick rhetoric says it all
You are right – it didn’t know.
Ice Nine And A Half (odysee.com)
Perhaps if those leaders and celebrities screaming for action behaved as if they were worried it would have more credibility.
oh yeah like that’s an argument about a complex system .. put that it in a paper and get it peer reviewed, shitforbrains
Your arrogant patronising bigotry is typical of the so-called ‘climate movement’. So, to fight fire with fire:
The global surface temperature series (GASTA) is a fraud (and, more recently, RSS also).
The confidence of IPCC & associated junk scientists is fraud.
The models they base that confidence are deeply flawed fraud (parameterisation).
The so-called ‘concensus’ is anti-scientific fraud.
The IPCC is a political fraud.
The hockey stick is a sticky fraud.
Michael Mann is a fraud, and even more unpleasant than you.
I believed this sh*t for 25 years, but never looked at the science. When I did, I was appalled.
There is no climate ‘crisis’, it is fraud.
Fuck off troll.
I think it’s adolescent. That explains its tone. It needs to get back to its essay – it’s displacing.
add this diatribe of unsupported drivel to the mounting evidence that smoking sh”t for 25 years can indeed lead to delusional paranoia.
Step outside your echo chambers and wake up, septic fuc<wit.
Don’t feed the troll.
Prediction: Artic Ice Free
Reality: Ice Earlier than normal
Usual Result: Theory disproven
NuScience: Model still correct, raw data needs more adjustment
Yes, it’s true, the BTL septics really are that stupid.
Oh goody, a new troll to play with.
Does the persistent anger stem from being wrong so often?
This dog-chew troll is too stupid to be any real fun.
One does wonder how it gets down the tree in the dark; or does it do it up there? How yucky that branch must be.
“Ice Melting At A Record Rate” (odysee.com)
I’m curious – why do you make false equivalence believe this nonsense and the careful sustained research of climatologists who have studied weather patterns over their whole careers?
Could they be wrong ? yes of course, we all could. But there is NO downside to altering our energy sources and usage (quite the opposite – nuclear fusion for example could supply us with unlimited amounts of clean energy) EXCEPT to the interests of capital. Funny that you lot see appear to see corporate greed and conspiracy under every stone when it comes to covid but EXXON, Saudi.. top chaps all. Never tried to suppress climate science in 70’s, undermined the scientific consensus. No nothing to see here.. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2015/jul/08/exxon-climate-change-1981-climate-denier-funding
Well it’s been very entertaining reading your angry comments today. Assuming you’re a lockdown sceptic, and that’s why you’ve joined the site? Looking forward to seeing you direct that righteous anger at the key issue most people discuss in this forum. Welcome!
glad to be of service 🙂 check out the latest and MOST important attack on our rights https://twitter.com/AdamWagner1/status/1463282056490852357
“nuclear fusion for example could supply us with unlimited amounts of clean energy”
But that’s not what we’re being offered, is it?
It’s hugely expensive wind and solar power with power cuts in January and February.
Don’t you understand that the world is going to end in less than 10 years (so we are told) and nuclear fusion power has been 30 years away for the last 50 years.
Who is this twat?
Does it matter.
Well, one in particular.
Prediction: polar amplification/more warming at the poles.
Reality: antarctic not warming
Usual Result: Theory disproven
NuScience: Ah, well, there are particular weather systems and, er, well Thwaites is gonna fall into the sea at any moment and there definitely aren’t any volcanoes there.
Prediction: UK to have a mediterranean climate.
Reality: It’s still cold and wet.
Usual Result: Theory disproven
NuScience: Actually, cold weather is caused by global warming-enhanced Arctic ice melt which may lead to paradoxical frostiness.
Prediction:Hurricanes will increase.
Reality: They haven’t – also US enjoyed a record-breaking 10 year hurricane ‘drought’ recently. Storm intensity has not seen an increase.
Usual result: Theory disproven
NuScience: Every major storm proves climate change is caused by CO2.
We could go on. . .
Arctic sea ice news and analysis:
“As of October 31, sea ice extent is tracking higher than any year since 2015, as well as higher than observed in 2007, 2011, and 2012”
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
I don’t think we need to worry too much. I’m pretty sure the world isn’t on fire.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l6vqPUM_FE
and now for a musical interlude
Extent does no take into account ice thickness. Multi-year ice is rare in the Arctic. It is thin and that means the volume is at a low level.
In the early 1970s the US Navy had been examining and measuring the ice for two decades and concluded that it had thinned by a third in a period of twenty years.
Same source:
“Overall, ice extent increased by 99,700 square kilometers (38,500 square miles) per day during the month of October. This rate of increase was larger than the 1981 to 2010 average of 89,200 square kilometers (34,400 square miles) per day.”
But hey, arctic sea ice extent doesn’t count.
Yes, but that was the 1970s.
No: that would just be Greta’s brain!
As Jim Royle would say…
Global warming? My arse!
Sorry, but the Telegraph doesn’t have a clue what it’s talking about. The sun sets for six months in the Arctic on September 21st. We are two months into the Arctic night and freezing is usually underway well before this. Re-freezing begins in October.
Are you trolling? Or do you really think that as soon as you go above 66.5 degrees north you get 6 months of darkness every year?
That’s no problem: Global warming can easily be rescued by creating more temperature measurement stations in deserts and insisting that the resulting average represents a valid alternative opinion regarding the temperature situation on earth (already being done). Obviously, at some point, people will start to claim that temperature is a non-binary social construct and that measurement stations in antarctica have a right to self-identify as whichever temperature they want.
Don’t need to do that Just MODEL stations in the desert and model the temps higher!
It’s the new way of doing things.
🤣 🤣 🤣
No, no, no.
High temperatures are evidence of climate change.
Low temperatures are evidence that climate change is unpredictable.
From the point of view of the Scientist, fed on Francis Bacon’s insane idea of making Nature his “slave”, low temperatures are just Nature having her periods.
The goal, pursued with extreme patriarchal mania, is that she will finally get pacified and from that time on she will be fully “understood”, meaning controlled, never again to break out, deviate, or do anything unexpected.
These guys f***ing hate
womennature!Long live climate change, including when it swings from one thing to another. It’s awesome! Of course it’s not caused by human activity. Only a loony thinks that.
No No No. If ships get sunk by sea ice it’s due to climate change, if ships don’t get sunk thats due to global warming. Please keep up.
BTW it’s 21 years since the prediction that snow would be a thing of the past by 2010. I remember it well as in 2010 we had a big family party in a country house in Dec 2010 and we were blocked in due to a deep covering of our imaginations.
The German climate changers sold the snow fall there last winter as extreme weather event caused by climate change to their teenage footsoldiers as these are to young to remember winters with a lot of snow 🙂 .
Exactly what I wanted to comment, global warming is so 20th century, nowadays the models can explain anything, that’s how versatile they are.
Unfortunately, if the idiots keep making absolute assertions which conveniently funnel more money from poor to rich, then they might find climate change is definitely an extinction problem at the point when nobody believes them anymore.
Around that time I foolishly drove my car into a massive snowdrift on the way back from the pub. Luckily it was an asymptomatic snowdrift so we were all absolutely fine.
Covid is giving the Arctic the chills.
Science, innit?
Look out for unvaccinated icebergs.
Yeah: must be all those Lockdowns (you know, the ones that made NO difference to CO2 changes)!
It’s difficult to detect a change when the UK produces 1% of humanity’s 3% of the atmosphere’s 0.04% of carbon dioxide.
It’s not difficult, it’s impossible.
Can anybody give a climate change prediction that has proven correct?
Kräht der Hahn auf dem Mist, dann ändert sich’s Wetter oder’s bleibt wie’s ist. ?
This is a mock so-called farmer’s rule (Bauernregel) for predicting the weather. In English, it would be When the cock crows on the dunghill, the weather will either change or it won’t.
If you can see the hills it’s going to rain, but if you can’t see them it’s likely raining already, or it’s night and probably too dark. It sometimes works.
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Has pantsdown been asked to?
🤡🤡🤡
Even though this is a story about ice, it warmed the cockles of my heart.
Wrong sort of ice
This happens about every year. I love it when it happens to research vessels going to the arctic or antarctic to research global warming.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSypu3hOzNo
Starts about Kyle Rittenhouse, but is more about MSM manipulation and MSM Division production for Soros profits.
AwakenWithJP
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24jqyYzMGO4
Oh and some good news if you are a fellow lover of bad news for BBC/ Sky Narrative 24
You’d have to have a heart of stone not to laugh.
I bet this doesn’t get mentioned on the BBC. Or the rest of the MSM…
Not many takers here, I guess!
So when was the climate “normal” so we have a datum point to measure from.
What is the correct global temperature?
I don’t call it global warming or global cooling, I call it “Global Staying the Same.”
hahahahahahahahahahaha! the desperate wish for absolutes laid bare! you should try religion – not even septicism is for you
OK, give us all the optimum range of atmospheric CO2.
Wasn’t this why they changed it from Global Warming to Climate Change?
It was global cooling in the late 1970’s. I remember old videos made with the well known scientist Leonard Nimoy (Spock) made documentaries about it.
Grand Maunder Minimum incoming now, so only 50 years late. Climate scientists and geologists were corrupted before the biologists by the technocratic globalist elite.
I’m just tending to laugh at this and covid stuff a lot recently – I don’t know if it’s because I sense the narrative is all going to pot or it’s because I’m finally losing it, but I don’t get annoyed the way I used to.
I suppose time will tell.
Same here. I suspect it’s a bit of each.
I just try to ignore it
Why come to this site then?
To annoy the fanatics.
I used to be open to climate change and thought we should do something just in case. Having had my eyes opened by “leaders” behaviour over COVID and seen the BS at COP26 I see it as just another scam to tax the poor and take more rights away.
I still think we should do something about general pollution especially plastics. We could easily make almost immediate substantial cuts in plastic use and we don’t. I assume because that doesn’t make enough money or scare people.
I recommend following Tony Heller’s Youtube channel and his website – Real Climate Science for good referenced articles. He has kept old weather station records from the early 1900’s.
Ditto.
I think we should stop blaming end users for plastic (and other materials) waste and place the blame where it really starts with the product producers. Why so much needless packaging on everything? Why don’t sales outlets have huge bins so buyers can dump the unnecessary packaging components instead of taking them home and then being held responsible for ‘their’ waste? Example frozen foods such as onion bargees don’t need an outer cardboard box to supplement the plastic wrapper inside, a label on the wrapper would be quite sufficient but of course the marketeers want a pretty picture plus loads of unnecessary details that no one actually bothers to read.
They also don’t want their products crushed during transport and storage. Why do you think crisp bags are full of air?
The most threatening pollution is found in Whitehall and is a real threat to all of us.
Welcome to the dark side.
You do realise though, supermarket plastic bags were invented to address the problem of deforestation to provide paper grocery bags.
Nor does the great Pacific Garbage Patch exist, no matter how hard the greens try to convince you. And microplastics pass through the gut of fish, they don’t get absorbed. They fall to the sea bed where they are consumed by microbes and broken down.
But the BBC said the Arctic would be ice free (in 2007) by 2013.
How did it grow back so fast in 8 years with all the global warming?
Get with the narrative: this freezing is just small respite before the next wave. The only way to halt global warming is to get vaccinated, wear a mask and clap for carers.
And then fire them
And surrender your freedom, wealth and bodily autonomy
Isn’t there a tax we need to pay to stop global warming? Paying tax solves all other problems, so why not climate change?
They’ve been trying to introduce a carbon tax for a decade or more. Of course it won’t solve anything, but it will make some oligarchs even richer.
Indeed. Sorted rNHS didn’t it?
Bill Gates is working on a Global Warming Vaccination.
I know with scientific certainty that Global Cooling is guaranteed to happen. How do I know this? Because all the experts said that Global Warming was guaranteed to happen.
stick to raving Mr Gove
More stuff you won’t see on the BBC.
I do hate to be a contrarian (well no I don’t, but) as a naturalist I take great pleasure in observing the change in seasons & the new wildlife that makes it appearance in those transitional periods. Every year we see a flock of Fieldfare & Redwings (Thrushes) congregate on their passage south to strip our Rowan, Elder & Holly trees of berries, Usually they arrive late October/early November! This year they are at least 3 weeks late, I only started seeing them today, conversely in The summer we had significantly fewer Swallows that arrived later. I don’t know what that means. I could speculate, it is certainly linked to warmer weather further north & quite likely cooler weather further south. Not necessarily global warming, just global ocean cycles etc. Just saying!
A lot of fruit has been a bit late this year, at least in ‘central southern England’ (Met office term). We had a rather dull Summer, with sunshine hours well under the long term average, with August being the worst. Thus the energy input to the trees has been down, and it’s all been a bit slow.
Up north (highlands) was a much brighter, warmer summer than usual trees fruited well, to be honest Rowan always seems too. Rain count was well down though, which of course trees don’t much appreciate.
there is no need , since 1995 to rely on forecasts of arctic ice, in 1995, we launched this to measure it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radarsat-1
Wikipedia, LOL the fuckwits go to, for CIA facts.
Even one of its founders recently condemned it as left wing nonsense.
Obviously, as any expert would understand, the early freezing of the Arctic and the coldest 6 months on record is BECAUSE of global warming. How could it be anything else?
Every expert knows the Arctic is warming at twice the rate of everywhere else, just like everywhere else.
Global warming and mass vaccination. The marriage made in hell.
And, one might ask, where is the nation-state when you need it?
There is a common misunderstanding that the Arctic ice extent tells you where the edge of the solid ice is.
In reality it measures coverage that is above 15% – just to clarify 15% ice and 85% water.
This means that the extent is related to prevailing winds, which can pack and unpack the ice quite rapidly and the annual minima are more a measure of wind directions and strength than “global temperatures”.
Interesting. Thanks.
Shouldn’t the prices of coastal properties in North Norfolk be falling?
I thought the land was falling.