Has Vaccine Effectiveness Against Death Been Overestimated?

The ‘stylized facts’ concerning vaccine effectiveness against Covid are as follows. First, the vaccines confer strong protection against infection, which peaks about one month after the second dose. However, this protection then wanes over the following five or six months to as low as 20% (or even lower).

Second, the vaccines also confer strong protection against serious illness and death, and this protection wanes much more slowly. Hence, six months after vaccination, the vaccinated still have substantial protection against death.

While these stylized facts are approximately right, there’s reason to believe that vaccine effectiveness against death has been overestimated. Note: by ‘overestimated’ I simply mean that effectiveness may be somewhat lower than is claimed, not that effectiveness is zero (or even close to zero).

The reason effectiveness against death may have been overestimated was highlighted in a recent study by the U.S. CDC. Using data on a large cohort of Americans, Stanley Xu and colleagues calculated non-Covid death rates (adjusted for age and sex) among vaccinated and unvaccinated persons.

Their findings are shown in the figure below (taken from the Economist). Notice that, on both charts, the light blue bar is much higher than the other two bars, indicating that non-Covid death rates were substantially higher among the unvaccinated.

The researchers interpreted their results as evidence of vaccine safety. (If the vaccines were very unsafe, you’d expect a lot more non-Covid deaths in the vaccine groups.) However, there’s another implication, which the researchers also acknowledge: people who get vaccinated tend to be healthier and/or more risk-averse than those who don’t.

How do we explain this ‘healthy vaccinee’ effect? There are at least two possibilities. First, some people may be too frail to get vaccinated, due to old age or underlying health conditions. Second, some people may just be inherently healthier/more risk-averse, and as a result may be more likely to get vaccinated and less likely to die of other causes.

The CDC researchers actually attempted to control for the healthy vaccinee effect by selecting unvaccinated persons from among those who’d had at least one flu shot in the last two years. The fact that they still observed a difference in death rates suggests the true effect may be even larger.

While the CDC’s results might be good news from the perspective of vaccine safety, they’re bad news from the perspective of vaccine effectiveness.

Suppose you do a study, and find that the Covid death rate is ten times higher among unvaccinated people than among vaccinated people. That difference could be due to the vaccines. But it could also be due to the fact that vaccinated people are less likely to die for any reason.   

Observational studies of vaccine effectiveness do attempt to control for the healthy vaccinee effect, for example by including some measure of health/frailty as another variable in the analysis. However, these kinds of measures may not capture all the relevant differences between vaccinated and unvaccinated people.

Consider Israel. By the start of June, the country had fully vaccinated 55% of its population (and an even higher percentage of adults). Despite this, and despite having gone through two previous waves of Covid, the country saw a major third wave associated with the Delta variant. Here’s the chart of daily Covid deaths:

One might have assumed that natural immunity from the two previous waves, combined with a 55% vaccination rate, would have kept deaths to a minimum. Yet the number of deaths was still substantial, at least relative to the previous waves. This is particularly evident if we look at excess mortality:

Total excess mortality in Israel’s third was about the same as in its first wave, and was actually higher than in its second wave. Now, it’s true that a disproportionate share of Covid deaths were among the unvaccinated. But this is consistent with the healthy vaccinee effect.

Of course, I’m not claiming that a plot of excess mortality in one country constitutes a serious analysis. Mortality would presumably have been higher absent the vaccination campaign. However, it’s hard to reconcile the chart above with claims of, say, 90% effectiveness against death.

To repeat: I’m not claiming the vaccines aren’t effective against serious illness and death; only that their effectiveness (after two doses) may have been overstated. Offering the vaccine to over 50s still makes sense as a way to achieve focused protection.  

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Ignore it all and get on with your life (or whats left of it)

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Best advice you could give, Cecil. The zombies are effectively dead already, so whether the snake oil keeps the corpse on its feet for a few more months is really immaterial.
Have a great day.

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

There needs to be a reckoning…. sooner rather than later.

Below UK MHRA yellow card data to 03/11/21 on AZ, Moderna and Pfizer experimental gene therapies:

Total reports: 383,644
Total reactions: 1,261,701

Total fatalities: 1,768

https://yellowcard.ukcolumn.org/yellow-card-reports

And we all know this ‘monitoring’ system is flawed and leans toward under-reporting.

Seems too, since 1946 we’ve forgotten how we deal with all those medical practitioners who coerce victims into unwarranted medical experimentations.

Be seeing you…

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Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

And of course we only know what they let us know.

FrankFisher
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

these scaffold photos seem to really upset the vaxists…

zners
zners
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

best advice there is. But it’s not easy Cecil. My personal life has been affected by those who are instigating this and those who comply. I missed the birth of my son as I wasn’t allowed into hospital. My kids are literally born surrounding by masked drones walking around town. And now I cannot go into the office because I choose not to disclose my medical status.

FrankFisher
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Hard to do this when the fascists are forcing vaccinations on people. My son is being threatened by his university right now with the full support of the students’ union. Everyone PAID to defend our basic rights is working to overturn them.

Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  FrankFisher

Does your son know that he is legally entitled to self exempt on medical grounds unless and until the government amends various acts of Parliament? He doesn’t need a doctors letter either.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Its this kind of brainwashed Brit “just bury your head in the sand”, “keep calm and carry on”, “stiff upper lip” attitude that has led to this situation.Cecil is an old name so Im going to make a general point about older people. They and their dumb mindset of “just let the government commit any crime it wants and dont say anything” is the reason we have criminal governments that can get away with anything. Its this dumb mindset leading to this situation. I could have approached someone like Cecil wiht all the evidence in the world that 911 was not what they say it was, and his ilk will just chuckle and ignore the info, playing right into the handas of these criminals. Dont listen to this crap. These lowlifes are waging illegal nefarious biological warfare against you and your friends and family. If your only thought from your infinitely capable human mind is to just ignore that, youre a fucking moron.

kate
kate
4 years ago

Actually, “Cecil” has been on this site from the beginning and is well aware of what is happening. He is usually cynically humorous.

Shirlgirl
Shirlgirl
4 years ago

I agree. I had a go at my elderly parents and in-laws who have that same attitude. My dad has always been of that mindset….. “well if the government says so, we don’t have a choice and we may as well just go along with it” What he actually means is “I can’t be arsed to think for myself”. He is absolutely shocked that I have NOT fallen for this BS. There does seem to be something about the generation born around the war (eg they were not particularly scarred by it as they were so young and their lives have been pretty stable ever since) that are incapable of believing that the government may not be on their side.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  Shirlgirl

Just like my parents (85 and 92)….they don’t care for the Tory party at all, but have expressed sympathy for Johnson on the grounds of “well, what else could he have done?” And they excuse Starmer’s lot as “they are not in power so they are helpless”
Just easier not to try to discuss it with them.

juliakurzeja
4 years ago

Imagine making these comments but substituting “Treyshawn” for Cecil and “making an obvious point about black people”. Ageism is not fucking OK.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

“Has Vaccine Effectiveness Against Death Been Overestimated?”
Does the Pope poo in the woods?

miketa1957
miketa1957
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

I suspect I agree with your sentiment, but I think you have it the wrong way round. The Pope poos in the woods statement is false, so by implication the claim that vaccination effectiveness has been overestimated would also false.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

The usual expression is “is the Pope a Catholic” but that doesn’t seem like quite such a truism as it once might have been

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The Pope is fully signed into BUILD BACK BETTER

You need to look to Archbishop Viganò for some spiritual guidance…

https://rumble.com/vpelhb-breaking-exclusive-archbishop-vigano-appeals-for-a-worldwide-anti-globalist.html

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SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago

Some further factors raised in the item below e.g. the impact of people still counting as unvaccinated for a period immediately after their jabs and the possible effect of delayed reporting of deaths.

Very interesting spike in non COVID deaths amongst those classified as unjabbed at pertinent times. Hmm…

https://youtu.be/6umArFc-fdc
Norman Fenton
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In this lecture I talk about our ongoing analysis of the latest data published by the Office for Nat Statistics on mortality by vaccine status. The reason this data is incredibly important is because it potentially provides us with the simplest and most objective way to determine the overall risk-benefit of the Covid vaccines, namely the comparison of all-cause mortality between the vaccinated and unvaccinated.

What I will show you is that there are so many inconsistencies and missing information in the data – as is the case for most studies into covid vaccine effectiveness – that few conclusions can be drawn other than that it provides no real evidence that the benefits outweigh the risks.

B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Good post, with the info available from around 24:00 on explaining clearly this apparent mortality discrepancy, as illustrated in these adjusted and unadjusted graphs from the presentation.

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BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

Choose Life, don’t be a ‘vaccine’ victim; physically, socially, psychologically or spiritually.

B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago

How do we explain this ‘healthy vaccinee’ effect? There are at least two possibilities. First, some people may be too frail to get vaccinated, due to old age or underlying health conditions. Second, some people may just be inherently healthier/more risk-averse, and as a result may be more likely to get vaccinated and less likely to die of other causes. And third, those that aren’t daft enough to get vaxxed are also probably not daft enough to keep being tested for C19 via PCR (as it mostly was at the time of the study, December 14, 2020–July 31, 2021) as part of the artificial ‘casedemic’ that fuelled this C19 scam, and so their natural (or unnatural deaths, as it may be) will be likewise disproportionately registered as being ‘non-C19’. Meanwhile the over-tested vaxxed cohort will be recorded as dying with (= of) C19 regardless of the actual cause of death . There are doubtless several more sound methodological reasons, even leaving aside the disclosed outside interests of the research team include ‘Dynavax Technologies, Pfizer, Sanofi Pasteur, Merck, GlaxoSmithKline, Protein Science (now Sanofi Pasteur to support vaccine studies), National Human Genome Research Institute, the National Institutes of Health, Merck Sharp &… Read more »

miketa1957
miketa1957
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

I think the do-not-get-tested point is important. The wife and I (unjabbed) have avoided tests as far as possible, other unjabbed friends also. If that is generally the case, then the number of unjabbed “cases” is depressed. Assuming the unjabbed who get sufficiently ill do appear in the system, then proportion of unjabbed cases who become serious would be over-estimated.
BTW: you can argue about tests and cases, but the numbers still get skewed.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

So you are saying the explanation may be that the unvaccinated are dying of Covid related reasons but don’t know it because they don’t get tested?

B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

No. I am saying a massively disproportionate number of deaths of people who had tested as having C19, were ascribed to dying OF C19 regardless of the actual cause of death – this has been covered over and over by this site and others.
PCR was picking up C19 in symptomless people by the expedient of upping the cycle rate, so those people were automatically categorised at death as dying from C19 (such as death in motor cycle accidents or shootings, as we have seen recently reported) to drive the figures up. As vaxx spectics are more likely to be PCR sceptics as well, then they are less likely to have the false C19 diagnosis on the death certificates.
Besides, if an unvaxxed person actually died of C19, be sure it would be recorded, as the symptoms should be clear to medical professionals.

Old Maid
4 years ago

Or might it simply show health services refusing or being slow to treat the unjabbed?

ebygum
4 years ago

Not a stats person but doesn’t the top graph show clearly that it’s the older age group >65 that ‘benefit’….?
Isn’t that what the GBD said in the first place?
For <65 surely you have to compare any ‘benefit’ with the massive amount of deaths and injuries being reported? A graph I don’t think I’ll see anytime soon.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

It’s all bollix, FREEDOM!

CiacBiab
4 years ago

Headline Correction ATL:

“Has Vaccine Effectiveness Against At Causing Death Been Overestimated Underestimated?”

You’re welcome.

ebygum
4 years ago

Oh, and another thing…can someone explain in simple terms..how more people have died ‘with of Covid’ since the summer, with a vaccine and a less virulent variant, than those months last year, with a more virulent variant and no vaccine…
How does this fit in with ‘effective against illness and death’?

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

Something no one seems to care about. I keep looking at the graph for hospital admissions on the government corona dashboard and I fail to see any real difference anywhere along the line – with the exception that we never say admissions as low or as low for as long as we did in summer 2020. Admissions look the same or higher straight through last winter to now, with a fairly minimal dip in summer 2021.

Deaths in NL last week – 3750. That involved an excess of 850 across all age ranges, although primarily those over 80, for whom the death rate has been elevated since August.

Why is there never any consideration of the fact that Western countries in particular have probably the largest number of elderly they have ever had, combined with a particularly virulent virus.

Hospital admissions here are highest in the 80-89 and 90+ age groups, by far. Epidemic of the unvaxxed my arse, it is simply a perfect storm, made worse by keeping elderly in care homes from loved ones and normal routine.

FrankFisher
4 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

The vaxists cannot seem to hear that simple question

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  ebygum

… and then there’s the observational fact that everyone I know who has had Covid recently (as opposed to very few in a comparable period last year) is jabbed.

steve_z
4 years ago

good article

the vaccinated are the work at home worried well – life expectancy 90

the unvaccinated contain a cohort of homeless, drug addicts etc

if you don’t account for the above you would get +ve vaccine efficacy from a placebo

we can add into that
a) calls for unvaccinated people to be denied medical treatment
b) unvaccinated people avoiding hospital when they need it

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

There is some truth in that.
But also the vaccinated tend on the whole to be older, and the unvaccinated younger.
So it’s not as simple as you suggest.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I’m assuming age cohorts already. Can’t do any analysis without splitting into (small) age cohorts

Paul_Somerset
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

It’s a pity it will never happen, but I’d love to see that (a significant subset of the population invited for vaccination, photographed getting injected on Twitter, given their ticks on the NHS app, the lot, but injected with saline, then their results followed and compared with those who decline that invitation).

miketa1957
miketa1957
4 years ago

However, there’s another implication, which the researchers also acknowledge: people who get vaccinated tend to be healthier and/or more risk-averse than those who don’t.

I agree with the risk-averse bit, assuming that is just a polite way of saying “frightened of Covid”. But I’m not sure about the healthier bit. All of the unjabbed that I know (me, wifey, dozen or more others), all are people who pay more attention to their health (eat better, exercise more) and, if anything, have gone to greater lengths since Covid first appeared.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

that may be true of you – and I am unjabbed, healthy and well educated

but – statistically – the unjabbed cohort tends to the working class, people on the edges of society, people who can’t take time off work, hand to mouth etc – and these people have a life expectancy about 20 years less than the jabbed ‘worried well’

the unjabbed cohort are more likely to die of anything and if they tested +ve in the previous 28 days will go down as covid. I expect this has not been accounted for

BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago

With 150 people dying double vaccinated in Northern Ireland in September alone, a 90% effectiveness would mean over 1,400 lives or so we’re saved from Covid alone.

Average monthly deaths from all causes in a month is usually around 1,300.

The numbers for effectiveness are obviously being over estimated.

FrankFisher
4 years ago

Simple question: how are they defining “unvaccinated”? If, as in the UK, it includes those who have been jabbed less than 21 days previously, that changes things

jock of the bushveld
jock of the bushveld
4 years ago

Hasn’t this effect been seen in a lot of the analysis (Norman Fenton etc) and isn’t the effect something that appeared in the early parts of the year and has disappeared as the year progressed. It may be simply that the very frail are not taking the jab. If the jab worked some sort of positive magic then overall mortality for the year would be lower in 2021 vs 2020 but it doesn’t appear to be heading that way.

realarthurdent
4 years ago

It seems that the vaccines were only slightly effective for a very brief period before the Delta variant arrived. (Leaving out all of the elderly people it killed almost immediately due to adverse reactions of course).

Since the arrival of Delta they seem to do nothing to prevent infection, nothing to prevent transmission and nothing to prevent serious illness or death, in fact the data suggests that the vaccinated fare worse than the unvaccinated when infected with Delta.

It’s such a shame that no scientists advised against a vaccination programme in the middle of a pandemic due to the risk of vaccine-resistant strains developing, or of creating a vaccine which only delivered immunity against one protein in the virus, or attempting to create a coronavirus vaccine when all previous attempts had ended in failure and vaccine injury, or of rushing out a novel vaccine technology to billions of people worldwide without undergoing the normal levels of clinical trials.

If only someone had thought of that.

Oh, wait…

SJR
SJR
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I think the big issue here is that modern society thinks that we can science our way out of anything, when sometimes the cure is actually worse than the disease.

If Covid had happened in the 50’s then it’d have been just another bad flu going around. Life would have continued as normal, and the government would be playing down the bug to stop people panicking.

Now we have governments playing up the panic, shutting everything down, forcing experimental medication on the population, and oppressing those who just want to get on with life.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  SJR

Agreed.
And the 24 hour news media running around like headless chickens saying “DO SOMETHING” to the politicians doesn’t help.

We should introduce a new law saying that no broadcaster can broadcast more than a total of 1 hour of news programmes a day. Because any more than that and they just fill the time with speculation, panic, and agenda-driven propaganda.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Social media is also a major part of the problem – it just amplifies the bedwetting tendencies.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Yes, I don’t think it’s a coincidence that I am the only unvaccinated amongst my family and close friends, and I am also the only one who isn’t on facebook and twitter and WhatsApp and doesn’t have a television licence.

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago

Professor Norman Fenton’s analysis suggests the number of unvaccinated is significantly underestimated.

He notes that, according to ONS , the ‘steady state’ non-covid mortality RATE is around 40% higher in unvaccinated. This makes no sense. When Prof. Fenton adjusts rates so that non-covid mortality is the same for both vaccinated and unvaccinated there is a post jab spike in vaccinated.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6umArFc-fdc

Waffle
4 years ago
realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Waffle

Notice how governments around the world are all setting future dates by when certain groups have to be vaccinated, in order to “encourage” the unvaccinated to succumb. The dates and sizes of the groups involved vary dependent on what the governments in each country think they can get away with, but the pattern is clear enough.

It’s almost as if they are all following a coordinated plan.

Still, that would be a conspiracy theory and we can’t have that. All governments are moving in a totalitarian direction purely coincidentally.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Yes this is nudging. Because such mandates cannot be legal, they have to appear as if they will be…in the future….thus putting off the evaluation of the legality of this announcement.

Here is Anna de Buisseret on the real legal situation for those facing loss of employment and our rights as citizens. All of this is ILLEGAL and cannot stand in a court.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/YQtkNb03lfs/

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

So what are people thinking about the blatant false flag Christian convert terror attack in the hospital. I have very limited internet access so cannot do the research I would like to. UK Column covered it, but does anyone have anything interesting to share?

UK Column News – 17th November 2021
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KegPQBNuEwhX/

crd123
4 years ago

If you look at the UKHSA data, the % of deaths as a proportion of hospitalisations by dbl Vacc/non Vacc is not that different, so if you get as far as needing hospitalisation then the virus has developed to a level that being vaccinated does not help that much. The key question then is how much the vaccination helps reduce hospitalisation in the first place? The UKHSA figures show that admissions as a % of cases are higher for non-vacc versus dble vaccd, roughly 3-4x in the 70+ category, and 7-10x in the 40-69 category (looking at the most at risk groups), with the 10x “benefit” figure being the one referenced a lot. However, when you look at admissions as a % of that specific population in total, the relative figures drop to roughly 2-3x in the 70+ category, and 3-4x in the 40-69 category. This implies cases are being reported at a much lower level in the Un-Vaccinated population, especially under 70s, which is what you might expect based on demographic/social differences in outlook between the two groups. Interestingly, if you look at the same data (admissions as a % of dbl-Vacc/un-vacc population), but 9 weeks ago, the relative… Read more »

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago

some people may just be inherently healthier/more risk-averse, and as a result may be more likely to get vaccinated and less likely to die of other causes.”

I’m sure that the “death protection” has been overrated but I don’t buy this as a possible reason.

IME vaccinatics are most likely to be unhealthy fatties who are looking to the jabbyjab to save them from their poor lifestyle choices. Despite this, they also seem to be sick all the time now!

It seems that those who are not getting sucked into the hysteria are more likely to be athletic and also less risk averse since they understand that the risks of the jabs are greater to them than the risk of covid.

John001
John001
4 years ago

New talk by Chris Martenson

https://www.peakprosperity.com/court-blocks-osha-vaccine-mandate/#comment-1041835

No benefit to US all-cause mortality, in fact it’s up in 2021 vs 2020 (except for over 85 y olds!)

Public health officials come out of it worst. They haven’t exerted any control over companies whose *legal duty* is to maximise profits for shareholders. I’d say that the pharma companies have been extremely effective at meeting this rather narrow goal, i.e. more $$$$ in the CEO’s and shareholders’ bank accounts.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

Microwave weaponry in action in schools: EVIDENCE:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/99rauzcVVasY/

RickH
4 years ago

Note: by ‘overestimated’ I simply mean that effectiveness may be somewhat lower than is claimed, not that effectiveness is zero (or even close to zero).”

Only needed to get to that point to recognize the voice of Noah, the reluctant vaccine sceptic, shouting at the flood of information.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago

I know a 28 year old who took the first jab. He found himself being drawn into the vaxx clinic on the local high street for a second shot – he told the nurse he was unsure, so she re-assured him by saying that if he doesnt take the second jab, he will probably end up on a ventilator and will die. This is a 28 year old male. He walked out of there double jabbed – he took a Covid AND a flu jab at the same time. This is terrorism and these are war crimes. These nurses are brainwashed but its hard to feel sympathy when they are committing such acts of evil against people I like.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago

That’s so very scary

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

Should also say I hhopae he is ok

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago

In Scotland 91% of Covid deaths over the last 3 months have been in the jabbed.
67% of Covid hospitalisations have been in the jabbed.
I’ll stick to my naturally acquired memory B and T cell immunity if you don’t mind.
https://dailyexpose.uk/2021/11/18/91-percent-covid-19-deaths-among-the-fully-vaccinated/

Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago

They should include vaccine deaths when taking into account effectiveness against death.

Aleajactaest
4 years ago

Covid1984 injection.

The only “vaccine” in the world who’s failure is blamed on people that never took it

JayBee
4 years ago

https://bartram.substack.com/p/the-importance-of-the-delay-between
He also did some work on this too frail to vaxx topic in an earlier 3 part series.
This is his very latest about the time delay impact which Prof Fenton looked into earlier.
For those not wishing to look too deep into it, scroll towards the end: the ‘vaccines’ come out badly in every instance.

Freecumbria
4 years ago

Reposting my analysis from some time ago Here is a chart I produced from the data in the recent ONS publication Deaths involving COVID-19 by vaccination status, England: deaths occurring between 2 January and 24 September 2021 It compares the mortality over time of the vaccinated and unvaccinated populations (per 100,000 in each category) in relation to deaths with a) a positive test for SARS-C0V-2 i.e covid (labelled) deaths and b) non covid deaths. Looking at the unvaccinated only: It shows in the age 60-69 age group the rate per 100,000 of covid labelled deaths started reducing from the end of January (the dotted green line) before the vaccination gained pace, but while this fall was happening non-covid deaths more than doubled up to April (the green dashed peak in the chart). Covid down non-covid up, very weird. Part of the explanation is that the proportions of unvaccinated are substantially understated and this in turn if corrected for may reduce the size of the green dashed peak, the understatent becomes more relevant as the unvaccinated group becomes smaller. But even correction of a very substantial unvaccinated population understatement is not going to remove the peak completely, just lower it. As… Read more »

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Freecumbria
4 years ago
Reply to  Freecumbria

Another example of this healthy user bias can be seen in relation to the selection that is going on as to who has the second inoculation in this same age 60-69 age group.

From the attached chart you can see a sudden and extreme increase in the all cause death rate in the single vaccinated around May/June.

As second inoculations are happening at a super fast rate in May/June there is a very sudden and sharp jump in the single jabbed death rate (the blue line)
What I suggest is happening is that there is a sub-group of people too ill to get the second inoculation who very rapidly get left behind as major occupants of the single jabbed group causing the death rate to shoot up. These are people who have become ill temporally after the first inoculation.

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