Austria Makes Covid Vaccines Mandatory
Austria has become the first country in Europe to make the Covid vaccine compulsory. From February 1st, all adults will be required to have the vaccine. Sky News has more.
The measure to make vaccination compulsory among the adult population will attract controversy, with Austria only the fourth country in the world to do so – after Indonesia, Micronesia and Turkmenistan.
[Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg] said: “Whipped up by radical anti-vaxxers, by fake news, too many among us didn’t get vaccinated. The results are overcrowded intensive care units and enormous suffering.”
He said the government therefore took “a very difficult decision… that we will quickly introduce a nationwide vaccine mandate” from 1 February.
The nation had already introduced a series of strict measures along with Germany and Slovakia in the weeks leading up to Christmas, as a debate intensifies over whether vaccines alone are enough to tackle coronavirus.
Around 66% of Austria’s population is fully vaccinated, one of the lowest rates in western Europe.
Its infection rate is among the highest in the continent, with a seven-day incidence of 971.5 per 100,000 people – and daily cases keep setting records.
The country of 8.9 million has reported more than 10,000 new infection cases daily, while hospitals have been overwhelmed with many new Covid patients and deaths have also been rising again.
The national lockdown will initially last for 10 days, after which the effects will be assessed and the measures extended to a maximum of 20 days if cases have not gone down enough.
Two states in Austria – Salzburg and Upper Austria – had already triggered a range of restrictions, with the rules extended to apply to vaccinated people and a full lockdown from next week that would see schools shut and a curfew imposed.
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And what will happen to the people that won’t comply?
Trains to some kind of internment camp?
They are really, really desperate to remove that control group.
Whether this was all planned, or (unlikely) is just a massive global screw-up, it is clear that they are committed to continuing their approach because the alternative – admitting that they have made a mistake on an epic scale and been responsible for the unnecessary deaths of millions of people – would mean, in many countries, certain death or a lifetime of incarceration for them.
It’s a fight to the death now.
What I find so appalling is that so many health care workers will not speak out. Even if there are many who still believe in the benefits of the vaxx (and I’m sure there are), they must see at the same time there are also lots of question marks and that it does not work as thought.
Head of the Dutch public health service said 4 weeks ago that the country was in a different place than last year because of the high vaxx rate. Assuming he was being sincere, it shows they simply do not know. If they worked on assumptions that proved not to be correct, at this point they are still working on assumptions. How in the world can a decent human being seek to force a physical intervention when it is clear they do not know how it will pan out? They have no clue what stabbing someone 3 or 4 times could do.
Skip “I’m Spartacus”, all medical staff seem to be saying “I’m Dr Mengele”
‘What I find so appalling is that so many health care workers will not speak out.’
This has been a feature throughout. We have seen the near universal abandonment of the concept of the obligation to dissent and thus the loyal dissenter, which in turn, I believe, correlates with a decline in belief in God/rise in secular belief. With no objective moral grounding, we are left with subjectivism and relativism, which ultimately leads to moral anarchy.
This is our society now.
Actually what you are seeing is the same mechanisms at work which drive religious fanatics.
‘Actually what you are seeing is the same mechanisms at work which drive religious fanatics.’
1. Define ‘religious fanatic’.
2. There is certainly a fanaticism evident in the Cult of Covid, but it would be irrational to equate all religous belief with fanaticism. But we’ll wait for your definition before taking you to task.
A religious fanatic is someone so deeply convinced about righteousness of their beliefs that they are ready to cause harm to other people to defend them, regardless of evidence to the contrary.
This sort of fanaticism is apparent both among dedicated covidians and in the opposite camp.
‘A religious fanatic is someone so deeply convinced about righteousness of their beliefs that they are ready to cause harm to other people to defend them, regardless of evidence to the contrary.’
That’s a fair definition, though it is important to distinguish traditional religious belief from secular ‘religious’ belief.
‘This sort of fanaticism is apparent both among dedicated covidians and in the opposite camp.’
I would assert that the fanaticism we are witnessing is largely a secular fanaticism, utterly devoid of God. But again, many secular beliefs have a religious aspect all of their own, so if you’re defining ‘religious’ to encompass non-traditional/supernatural aspects then I’m not going to argue the point too much, only to point out that these religious aspects are largey devoid of a personal God/the supernatural.
Why is it important to distinguish? It’s the same attitude dressed up in new clothes. And the solution is to drop the attitude, not turn to useless beliefs in sky daddy or some other fairies as an alternative. You must recognize the current craze is a smooth continuation of the previous crazes, and yes, all organized religions are inherently authoritarian.
‘Why is it important to distinguish? It’s the same attitude dressed up in new clothes. And the solution is to drop the attitude, not turn to useless beliefs in sky daddy or some other fairies as an alternative.’
The answer to your question is contained within the mind-numbing diatribe which followed: it’s important because not all fanaticisms issue from a belief in a ‘sky daddy’ (you’re clearly not mature enough to discuss these things; you sound like a Dawkins Disciple).
Let’s get down to the nitty-gritty. On atheism, what’s ‘wrong’ with regard to the fanaticism of the Cult of Covid? Is there something objectively wrong with ugly bags of mostly water imposing their will on other ugly bags of mostly water?
Why are you here? By what standard do you object to the current circumstances?
‘You must recognize the current craze is a smooth continuation of the previous crazes…’
Why must I? Which ‘previous crazes’?
‘…all organized religions are inherently authoritarian.’
You’re hopelessly confused. You’re confusing authority with authoritarianism, but given your childish approach to these issues it is not surprising to see you ignore/fail to understand nuance.
Why is covidianism wrong? Because of the golden rule – treat others as you want to be treated. And no, you do not need any religion to understand such rules. You may call it inborn empathy (though some humans lack it).
Previous religious crazes – crusades, inquisition, ethnic cleansing of minorities, blowing up people in the name of Allah all come to mind.
I understand very well what “authoritarian” in religious context means – do as our imaginary superior tells you (i.e. follow our rules) or else you are an infidel and you are going to hell (and we, the pious believers, will help you get there sooner, in the name of the “almighty”).
‘Why is covidianism wrong? Because of the golden rule – treat others as you want to be treated. And no, you do not need any religion to understand such rules. You may call it inborn empathy (though some humans lack it).’ Leaving aside the parasitic nature of this ‘rule’ in an atheistic context, why ought one adhere to such a rule given atheistic assumptions? And don’t appeal to the ‘rule’ since that would beg the question; by what standard is this rule authoritative? Again, on atheism, is there something objectively wrong with ugly bags of mostly water imposing their will on other ugly bags of mostly water? Do human beings possess intrinsic value and dignity? If so, whence do they derive this value and dignity? In what is this value grounded? ‘Previous religious crazes – crusades, inquisition, ethnic cleansing of minorities, blowing up people in the name of Allah all come to mind.’ You’re all over the place. 1. The crusades were largely a response to islamic aggression, and were thus defensive and not in the same category as your other examples. 2. Again, why must I ‘recognize the current craze is a smooth continuation of the previous crazes’? What… Read more »
Compliance with their agenda is far worse than death when you realise what’s really going on.
Yeah, have fun fighting to death against an armed state which can also seize your bank accounts.
Stay in the shadows of those willing to sacrifice for your freedom, coward.
It works best for those who alread have nothing to sacrifice, which does not apply to most people. Successful revolutions do not happen in rich societies, what happens is that the “freedom fighters” are declared criminals and put away.
Sigh…You’re right on that.
Many are taking personal loss everyday in defiance, and they are changing public perception with their sacrifice.
On the other hand those who use potential loss as an excuse to comply with fascism may get to experience the hard way, why that has never been successful.
Its not fun, but there are some things for me that there is no alternative but to die for, because to accept domination of my very being, is to have taken away everything from me, to be forced to take an injection that the other party knows has no effect but it is forced upon an individual in order to “break” that individual, so as to reduce them to nothing more than a slave, a kicked dog, a
meat toy that can be played with, abused, thrown away at any time by the persons forcing that injection on to me, that would kill me inside, and they know it. So yes you may laugh but I will die rather than submit because the alternative is tortured existence.
Nothing else needs saying about the home of hitler
I’ve copied this onto my rarely used facebook page – hope you don’t mind. Wonder how long it will stay up there.
3600€ penalty or 4 weeks prison.
For each subsequently missed booster 1450€ penalty or 4 weeks prison.
I’ll take prison. Is there a discount if I serve my time for all 8 boosters? Let’s get it over with because my mind is made up. Neither a fine, nor prison, nor banishment from public life, nor indeed death or beheading will change my mind. Come get me.
It’s most likely to be a death camp. That’s why they’ve been building them across Europe. They’ll say a new “variant” swept through the showers when they just happened to be gassing everyone. Add you onto the statistics.
The time is now to do something about this. If our government and the other governments of Europe don’t declare Austria a rogue state and cut off diplomatic ties then we have to assume they’re biding their time to implement the same measures.
“I ain’t getting on no train” as a postulated Jewish Mr T. probably should have said.
Well the British government are just fine with all the antics in Australia, and they have a Union Jack on their flag.
At least in prison I suspect you’ll be able to see a doctor and dentist, which is more than an ordinary citizen can…..because it’s your umanrights.
Its way more humane than being in a care home, and it would be nice to be a drain on both the state, and the octuplevaxxed tax payers!
Well said loopdloop, my mind is made up too, so save a cell for me!!
No, you will not “take prison”, they will seize your money first.
If thats not Coercion what is ???
Fine, I’ll do the bird
https://citizentruth.org/uk-male-prisoner-rape/
So people will be allowed to enter prison ‘unvaccinated’… Interesting. Leaving aside the contradictory element, I’ll take the Scrubs all day long.
Easy: Enemies of the People will be declared as “not people”.
At that point it’s just extermination.
Yes – it’s what happened in Soviet Russia. It’s what happens in China. It’s what happened in East Germany.
Just ask any Uighur. Oh, you can’t – they’re all in ‘re-education’ camps.
Wonder if there’ll be a mass exodus…? I’d be jumping ship and getting the hell over that border. I’m still highly doubtful about how they would actually enforce this as they’d need the full police force and military to be on board with this, and I’m sure there’s many within those two organisations who themselves do not want to be jabbed. I’m expecting to see a LOT of resistance and pushback to this Nazi-like decision.
Where too? There’s virtually no where that isn’t heading down this path.
Burundi springs to mind.
There’s nowhere to go – the entire world is a prison, now.
Mexico, Colombia and the Dominican Republic have no restrictions on entry nor on behaviour once there, and Mexico has a 180 day tourist visa.
Mexico, Colombia and the Dominican Republic were the three remaining countries, as of 2 weeks ago anyway, which impose no restrictions on travellers entering the country nor on their behaviour once there. You can stay up to 180 days in Mexico on a tourist visa.
Yes, at this point you have to first hide in a nunnery, then escape over the hills, singing.
Yes. But of course the “I’ve been on holiday in France and the QR code/passport system works seamlessly it’s almost not an issue” will also see “how efficiently the trains and the camps are working”
Good luck trying to make the rest of the country take the shot. Civil War ensues – how do you force 35-40% of Austria to get jabbed?
Anyone tried that shit on me they’d get the same in return, but my needle would be far far larger.
It’s about the same proportion unjabbed as in the USA?
However, some quoted figures are for the adult population and some are total population, which can confuse.
I just came across another ‘public-private partnership’ (aka a select club of unelected and unsackable bureaucrats): CEPI, formed 2016. Includes of course BMGF, WEF Wellcome Trust and sundry others like them.
https://wellcomeopenresearch.org/articles/5-284
Surprise, surprise, you can force 80% of people if only you have the few people who are holding the guns – these things are quite efficient, look at the model state of Belarus.
Presumably the same what happens to people who don’t pay taxes. They will be fined over and over again until they are bankrupt. And if already bankrupt, they will be imprisoned.
The Nicholson pic will make a fine Welcome to Austria poster.
Or Maria, from the Sound of Music, running across this hills being chased by people brandishing syringes?
“The hills are alive with the sight of vaccines
They’re coming for you if you dare say no” – something like that anyway.
“I will not be bullied, coerced, pushed, filed, injected, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered…
My life is my own…”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPuAG07-5Yo
And everywhere else – it may seem.
This is war.
It is seriously concerning what is happening now. It will not be long before Austria start rounding up the unvaccinated and putting them into camps. No doubt other countries will follow.
Once upon a time, if you didn’t do as the church told you to do you were a heretic and the punishment for being a heretic was severe. Now to question or refuse the “vaccines” is heretical and the punishments are getting more severe. We haven’t come very far from our medieval ancestors have we?
No, we haven’t, it has taken on a zealous, religious tone. In the past, if you prayed and your suffering was not relieved, you simply had not prayed hard enough.
If the vaxx doesn’t work, it’s because you don’t believe in it hard enough.
Actually it would only be a problem if you went on to preach your heresy to others, thus becoming a formal heretic.
Be interesting to see how it goes when they get to those of the religion of peace persuasion….
Yes – I don’t think that religion approves of aborted fetal tissue anymore than most Christians (Welby and the Pope being notable exceptions).
Surely that isn’t correct – you did say ‘Christians’, after all!
They follow the Profit Marx , not Jesus.
Karl or Groucho?
If it gets that way I will be standing (and fighting) shoulder to shoulder with my Muslim brothers and sisters.
When Robert Kennedy Jr speaks regarding the transfer of power and wealth and the globalists involved behind the Great Reset it pays to listen
https://twitter.com/jayghost71/status/1460156525863972867?s=20
Why don’t the WEF just relocate from Davos to Berchtesgaden and be done with it?
That would be too obvious. They prefer insidious fascism, such as all adopting the same hand-signals and lapel badges. Then installing their franchise govt flag/lectern/conference room in each of their vassal states just to gradually drop the hint that any notion of nation state sovereignty is dead and buried.
Wonder who paid for Boris’ flat? Probably the same people who paid for his new conference room.
They’ve gone past that stage already. I think they’re moving on to Build Back Faster, before it all falls apart.
True
This is where blind compliance gets you.
From three weeks to flatten the curve to mandatory injection with experimental ineffective vaccines.
And you just know there’ll be a significant number of people in this country pushing for this too.
All kicking off in Austria, again
Let’s hope we don’t have a shooting in Sarajevo as well.
Not enforceable. The police would not go along with medical apartheid. Are they now expecting police officers to hold down unvaccinated people and forcibly inject them?
I think you should read the book “Ordinary Men” before you make that statement again.
an eye opening book looking at how ordinary germans went along with the horrors
of course I wouldn’t have gone along with it just as I’m not going along with this
but germans gonna german
‘Germans gonna German’
…you stole my line!
In fact you just need to go to the Spiegel newspaper comment section to experience all the Ordinary Men firsthand.
Yes.
On the one hand I’m inclined to agree, but on the other hand look at the “police” in Australia. Anything is possible when you are of that mindset. I’d just leave the country asap.
You don’t need the police, just the ability to drain your bank account.
Not yet.
It will be fines first.
Then force.
What the actual fuck! What happens to us when this arrives in the UK?
Due to Blairs Multi Kulti experiment I think it will be impossible to do here without massive rioting …..
Regrettably, I think you are right. That’s why the other pincers in the WEF movement are the Police and Crime Bill (stamp out and criminalise protest) and the Online Harms Bill (stamp out and criminalise criticism of govt policy on the basis doing so equates to “harm”). See Rabid Jabit’s latest tweet about “harms” of “misinformation” relating to “vaccines”.
But they envisage the legislation will leave the resistance to, what they expect will be, its/their silent demise. Except I cannot see it being very silent.
Yes, it’s a source of some comfort to me that, with their love of open borders and multi-culturalism, the globalists have rather shot themselves in the foot when it comes to vaccine passports in the UK.
You think they won’t allow Islamics off the hook?
No they won’t. I work in the Muslim community of my home city, and I have for 12 years. I can tell you a few things; Firstly, they tread carefully. There have been massive campaigns here with health propaganda. For now it’s a softly softly approach. During the last 18 months, there has been a bit of a softening to the narrative. It was first received with some strong hostility and mistrust. So to get to my second point, I will show how that really happened. Deals with Iman’s. Having continuous conversations with many Muslims over the last 18 months, I have learned that the cities Mosque leaders have slowly and quietly moved position. They now mostly (not all – yet) support Covid measures and the ‘vaccines’. And that has had a huge impact in the community. Which now seems evenly split, whereas before the majority were hostile. You can make your own assumptions on why local Mosque leaders moved positions. This trend is only going one way. I heard a former Muslim sceptic tell a whoppa of a propaganda story about the Indian government faking Covid death statistics. And that the people are just dying in the streets. I… Read more »
Mandatory was always the aim. Always. Remember they tried to use the mental health act as the gateway to force this on people. The EU all falls into line in the end.
There was an article today in a Dutch newspaper talking about how to deal with people who had crazy corona theories – treat them as if they were schizophrenic. Isn’t that the type of shit the Soviets pulled?
Yes. That is precisely the shit the Soviets pulled.
https://www.vladimirbukovsky.com/writing/
— from To Build a Castle
I recall the method has already been applied to some lawyer in Germany early in the pandemic. They just locked her in a psychiatric ward. So yes, it is very much on the cards. Psychiatry has historically been infested by most egregious authoritarian scumbags, it seems it draws a certain type of character (similarly to police work).
Which makes it all the more clear, the “elites” (including a number of the UN/WEF supporting celebs) and their children haven’t been near a real vial of jab juice.
They would never mandate it for all adults with that risk attached.
What will they do those of us whose body is an Organic Temple?
Like the Pig Dictator
Which one?
The current No 10 incumbent
Oh yes the Charlatan Occupying the office formerly known as “Prime Minister”
Dear Toby
Still just a cock-up?
Regards
I expect he has a whole hard rive full of graphs & statistics to prove it.
“A mere temporary misunderstanding, I’m sure The Authorities will soon correct it.” ~ everybody getting on the cattle trains, always.
Why do you still believe this continuing show of stupidity, incompetence and magical thinking could be anything else? This guy is the head of state of some central European toy-state the so-called Entente powers (at that time) created by randomly drawing lines on a map. His so-called country isn’t even notionally sovereign. And he’s reading from a WHO script just like the kind of remote-controlled UN robot he actually is.
The WHO is a terminally incompetent body of pencil pushers and will happily create enormous suffering – to borrow on of their own phrases – whenever someone gets on board with one of their disease eradication program. Such as spreading polio in India due to polio vaccines capable of mutating into live polio viruses. Who the fuck cares! More injections please!
Never was a cock-up. The number and increasing levels of action taken by govts demonstrate this. The only cock-up is by politicians & MPs who stand frozen like rabbits in headlights, not knowing which way to turn, instead of recognising the evil that’s unfurling and standing firmly against it.
I wrote to an MP re covid passports, in May 2020, he replied telling me I had overstepped the mark then he stood up in Parliament months later encouraging this. Complicit liars, wonder how long our own MP’s have known and if they will refuse to be party to it eventually
Almost all of them are, but when you see the £billions rolling round in contracts for the pharma and tech to subjugate us to this new slavery it’s hardly a surprise.
They were aware this was happening before 2020. The govt proposals for digital ID and the EU proposals for “vaccine passports” pre-date the release of SARS-Cov2 on the world.
I thought Johnson’s demeanour seemed to change after he allegedly had covid, as if he had been informed of how his PMship was going to be.
It did but then I will maintain, whilst open to being proved wrong, that was a charade. He should release HIS private medical records if he expects his serfs to do the same in future.
Well, yes, BUT his records will say whatever is required.
Then some independently performed and analysed tests to determine whether he has had the injections or not.
Many of us thought the same. He looked shit-scared.
And to think I actually wished the fucker to survive
His survival (of purported Covid infection) was never in doubt; his political survival, on the other hand…
Well, everyone knows where their MP lives. Pop round for a chat.
‘infection’ rates are inversely proportional to the number of those ‘vaccinated’, for the simple reason that the fewer the number of people who are ‘vaccinated’, the more the number of the people who must submit to ‘tests’ at various junctures.
Less ‘vaccination’ -> more ‘tests’ -> more ‘cases’
Simple.
Serious question: Will mandatory vaccinations apply to Austrian refugees?
It’s ok I’m English from Indian heritage, so the above query cannot be construed as rAcIali5t in a court of law (Twitter).
They probably won’t class the refugees as Austrian citizens, or there is some kind of law that forbids compulsory medical treatment 🤔 oh wait…. There is!
Classic divide and conquer. Blame the lockdown on the unvaxxed so it turns the vaxxed against unvaxxed. As predicted.
Exactly. A tactic as old as time. The plus side is that the internet is a double edged sword. We can spread the truth and all material that contradicts the official lying narrative, so that this information is available to all and can reach the world. We can only utilize this tool to our advantage, whereas throughout history, previous battles have been won and wars conquered without the ‘net. This gives us even greater strength and is surely a bonus that we must maximize for our cause. We are able to fight back in a meaningful way!
All is needed is for the ‘dissidents’ to be identified and their internet connection terminated.
“a very difficult decision… that we will quickly introduce a nationwide vaccine mandate”
after winter
Corrected:
“It’s a very difficult decision…that we will quickly introduce a nationwide random murder and dismemberment of our citizens by vaccine mandate”.
Families better start buying funeral insurance now.
Of course they didn’t introduce it now, cause they would get everyone vaccinated and then the winter spike would come along and people would be like “bruh”. But if they wait until February, until after the flu season, they can say the vaccine worked 100%. You would have to be an idiot to fall for this. Unfortunately, most people are idiots.
Absolutely. Hey look, low levels of virus, the vaxx works great. It’s effectiveness only declines when you actually bump into the virus. That alone makes this disgusting, forcing people to get stabbed at a time when it will be easier to claim the snake oil actually works.
It’s been the policy foundation for all corona interventions – always introduce them while the infections are already declining. That’s exactly how DIY cloth masks got established as the perfect protection.
Another pillar is that our tormentors have earlier access to data than the general public. That way they can act a little bit like prophets. It happened in Germany for the “third wave” – which was announced by Merkel in full swing while the cases were still declining according to all the officially published stats. Kind of like the pharaohs used solar eclipses.
Yeah exactly, now I wonder why they chose that timing??
And if they succeed in vaxing everyone, what’s their excuse next winter??
I may not have said this before, just had a thought.
Increase capacity, treat symptoms early, support voluntary isolation of the vulnerable, let it rip!
You know it makes sense.
Shades of Aktion T4 – Tiergartenstrasse 4 in Germany.
Germany (or Austria?) have experience in freeing up hospital beds:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQOmcybJ-P8
Is there a creative wordsmith out there that can rewrite the words of heaven 17 Fascist groove thing with Fascist Vaccine as our tune for Liberty
The new national flag of Austria …
Remarkably like the old one.
Wonder if a seed of self doubt has been planted in Toby’s mind yet?
James is looking likely to win that bet!!
This is as close to a call to arms that you’re going to get. Time to prepare.
I agree but how do I prepare?
I won’t directly say it on here, but you will need to be prepared for physical confrontation of the highly dangerous kind.
Cancelling the licence fee and putting it towards your 3,600 euro fine would be a good start.
Would be the best three grand you’d ever spent.
Of course we shouldn’t believe this, it’s just another “conspiracy theory” nothing to see here, move along.
Just a few observations from my German speaking channels:
There is a huge demo in Vienna tomorrow, many Germans plan to come.
A general strike from 1.12. is being called for now, in both countries.
Surely, this mandate will be challenged in the courts.
The delay until February could be seen in that light, as a nudge as they know that this won’t stand in court.
The delay is also to be seen in the same light as Denmark’s stupidly timed reopening: a subsequent fall in cases can then be credited to the mandate, just as the rise in DK was always planned to be blamed on the opening.
What law would prevent them?
Not the ECHR, that has an exception for “public health” in every clause.
Why not strike from tomorrow?
Just seen this tweet. Ding did supposedly move to Austria for a while. Seems he gathered some more cult members while there…
“They are not messing around. They are serious about getting their payout from pfisser”
They left that bit out of his quote
You only need an a, an n, and a z, delete the middle bit – and you’re left with…
I don’t believe they are messing around.
The depopulation target date is 2030 and they are going for it come hell or high water.
And somewhere in the depths of hell an Austrian smiles for the first time in 76 years……
germans won’t be far behind – they’ve always liked doing forced medical experiments on people
it will be just like the old times
Love it.
Well, the humour…
I do not care if vaccines work or not and stop wasting your time arguing this point. This mandate is against the Nuremberg Code. It is violating human rights. Argue this.
unarguable
I think our leaders regard laws as guidance only
Yes but they may not like the effect on their health from the masses also deciding following the law is optional…
Amen. Been saying exactly that for months now. If the government decides the law is optional or “legal fluid”, then so can the plebs. There’s a lot more plebs
Why waste time arguing?