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hurleyp
4 years ago

Instagram censorship will only help the conspiracies

That’s one of the many problems with censorshit, it inevitably backfires. People rightly or wrongly assume the censors (usually government departments) are in league with the media and social media companies. Why trust either?

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  hurleyp

Who I don’t trust is journalists [or anyone else] who complains about political dissidents doing the real journalism by revealing the conspiracies.

Furthermore, Amy Jones should either pick up a dictionary and learn the definition of the word ‘conspiracy’ or drop the weaseling of words. Those exposing the conspiracies are not the conspiracy.

Mark
4 years ago
  • It’s time to put Covid behind us” – England’s ‘dangerous and unethical experiment’ of lifting all restrictions has been a resounding success, argues Christopher Snowden in Spiked.

Much as a policy of applying the pre-existing flu pandemic plan would have been a resounding success, and much as not reimposing panic restrictions in the winter 2020/21 would have been a resounding success, had it not been for cowards like Snowden supporting and enabling the panickers.

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

His article drips with complete contempt for anyone who hasn’t followed or agreed with the government’s lockdown policies. He seems to believe they were the only realistic way forward and everything has more or less worked out as the government hoped. Snowden is something of a fence sitter but he clearly despises any degree of scepticism, believing anyone who criticised the government to be some sort of fruit loop.

court
4 years ago

Snowden’s return to the Geoff Norcott podcast a few weeks ago really made my piss boil. Just like you said, utter seething contempt for anyone who even questioned the government decisions.

I dumped the podcast after that. It started out a bit anti-establishment but has morphed into a support group for shy Tories and I’m definitely not one of those anymore.

isobar
4 years ago

He’s also a ‘jabbaholic’

Mark
4 years ago

he clearly despises any degree of scepticism, believing anyone who criticised the government to be some sort of fruit loop.”

The contempt is mutual, at least for this sceptic.

In some ways, his kind of cowardice is worse than that of the gullible sheep who genuinely believed this was the “worst pandemic ever”. Snowden as far as I could tell was well aware that it wasn’t, but made sure he carefully calibrated his resistance to the panic measures to stay safely respectable.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Doing nothing was an option.
Much the best option.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

It was definitely an option, and an excellent one, from a healthcare or good governance pov. Whether it was an option politically (“the art of the possible”) is open to reasonable debate I think.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

‘Covid is now much like seasonal flu’. Cheers Chris, I came to that conclusion soon after we “squatted the sombrero” ( cultural appropriation?). Despite having initial doubts about the severity of Covid I went along with the pantomime like everyone else initially starting with my Own Private Lockdown* the week before bozo ordered the National one. In the week before lockdown 1 millions had been sent home from work, school and university but were free to mingle in shops, pubs, on transport and at social & sporting events. If Covid really was the medieval plague from hell that would be the week of maximum infection. Neither turned out to be true so I ‘left it behind me’ shortly after that while continuing to go through some lockdown motions as I was lucky enough to be otherwise out and about as a ‘key worker’ observing all the bollox from the outside as it were; often able to chat with those who knew. Luckily I came across a farm shop cafe that would secretly allow customers to Illegally sit down on a chair in the sunshine to enjoy my coffee and baguette! *My Own Private Lockdown, bar essential runs to Tesco for… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Snowden as far as I recall (I’m open to correction on this if anyone paid more attention to his maunderings at the time) was actually quite sceptical during the summer. His crucial betrayal came when the panic was resumed as the inevitable winter respiratory upturn came on.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I followed his blog prior to Covid but unfollowed when he went weird on lockdown late last summer as you say.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

You’re probably more familiar with his early response to the panic than I am, then.

By the way, I replied to your private message the other day (just checking if you saw the reply).

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Thanks but no not yet. I don’t use the forums but was curious about the message link on offer not realising that the forum was the medium.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

One of the problems is that the notification when you have a pm is not prominent enough imo.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

On the subject of Snowden, from memory he started off quite doubtful when Covid was looming but just one of his areas of interest on his blog.
He soon went all Ultra control freakery but, as I say, that is just from memory.

I was also following a few other general interest/ slightly techie blogs at the time, one of which pointed me here to lockdownsceptics via a now defunct site* that provided analysis of early Covid stats from ONS.

ed:* HECTOR DRUMMOND, that was it !!! Dunno if anyone can find an archive of it?.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Your wish is my command dear Lady. Christopher Bowyer produced some great stats in the ‘early days’ on Hector’s site. Most are still up for viewing.
https://hectordrummond.com/

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Many thanks.

That was the site that first identified the 3rd(?) week in June 2020 when fewer people died, all causes, in London than over the five year average.*
I harp on about it now and then because it was the second pivotal moment in which bozo could still have claimed Victory over Covid, sent everyone back to work and school becoming a National Treasure in the process.

Through Hector Drummonds subsequent analyses I followed that pattern as it spread throughout the country quite rapidly in the next few weeks but was ignored by the media and politicians making it obvious that they didn’t want Covid/lockdown to go away anytime soon.

*As clever people here at lockdownsceptics pointed out, you cannot die of Covid in March 2020 and then die of whatever comorbidity was going to kill you (statistically) in June. It also indicated that overall annual mortality was likely to be much the same as usual despite Covid as indeed turned out to be the case.
Some of us pointed out even earlier that people were dying through suicide and neglect as a result of lockdown policies.

btw its Karenovirus (Mr.) If you please 😉

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Oh bugger! Can’t apologise in our new woke world, might be taken the wrong way.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

No problem, it is ambivilacious, a moniker adopted in haste as a conflation of Karen ( then a popular term of abuse) and, of course, Virus.

JayBee
4 years ago

https://brownstone.org/articles/vaccine-mandates-are-unethical/
Check out what JT has to say about Bill Gates and his flawed understanding of viruses and ‘vaccines’.
“The problem of malware was dubbed viruses. It was a metaphor. Not real. It’s not clear that Gates ever really understood that. Computer viruses aren’t anything like biological viruses. To maintain a clean and functioning hard drive, you want to avoid and block a computer virus at all costs. Any exposure is bad exposure. The fix is always avoidance until eradication. 
With biological viruses, we have evolved to confront them through exposure and let our immune system develop to take them on. A body that blocks all pathogens without immunity is a weak one that will die at the first exposure, which will certainly come at some point in a modern society. An immune system that confronts most viruses and recovers grows stronger. That’s a gigantic difference that Gates never understood.”

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

A crucial insight.
We have been enslaved by an invalid metaphor.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Good to see upticks you have. I was ridiculed when I said what you’re saying in March 20. Sometimes waiting for the way it is to become acceptable does require an enormous amount of patience. Problem is, until it does, situation gets worse and worse

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

While knowing nothing of Bill Gates’ understanding of virus I was posting from the start that we are ‘the survivors’ of any number of biological virus that have appeared during the course of evolution. Tens of thousands over the last million years alone.
Our immune systems have, collectively seen them all off from the Justinian Plague to the Spanish Flu.
The exception being the common cold because, while highly contagious, it is not sufficiently dangerous to bother becoming immune to.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Ester, Sausages, Ranzid. SAYS LEAVE THE UNJABBED AT HOME TO DIE! What a lovely lady.

Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Another one who adopts that manic psychopathic grin as they push the satanic agenda.

Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Yes , lent her gnashers to toothy Ahern 😉

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

What a pathetic, evil creature. She’s singing for her supper! Her crappy show should now be renamed “That’s death.”

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Rantzen has always been a repugnant little creature.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Just copied Bernard Braden anyway.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Always thought that she was dirty minded and absolutely devoid of talent.

CiacBiab
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

She’s an evil bitch.

I’m certain she knew all about the abuse that happened at the BBC and said nothing and did nothing.

Utterly disgusting excuse for a human being..

Perhaps with luck she’ll drop dead, that would be karma.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The NHS have form on this.
About ten years ago there were reports of them refusing surgical treatment for smokers on the grounds that either their smoking related early demise would make procedures less cost effective or that the act of smoking would hinder the patients recovery.

I recall a report from Trelisk hospital in Truro (‘Risky Trelisky’ to the locals) in which a man was refused an operation on his foot for the latter reason. The implication was that his lifestyle might put a blot on the Surgeons success record.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Not quite the same thing imho – NHS Consultants have also been known to refuse operations where the patient is overweight and the degree of obesity is a known and enhanced risk of the procedure involved.

IMHO I regard that as “doing the right thing” and nothing sinister – unlike any person being deprived treatment due to them exercising their right not to have a jab that is proven to be lacking in efficacy when other treatments are available that do work.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Esther’s co-guest during this studio rant was a girl from Bucks Fizz, to her credit she remained stony faced throughout.

Mark
4 years ago

Another huge test of the remaining shreds of the rule of law in the US coming to a head. The harassment and prosecution of Kyle Rittenhouse has been an utter disgrace from beginning to end. A 17 year old who had the courage to step up to defend property and businesses when leftist thugs were rampaging through the streets threatening life and property, he killed some of said thugs who were attacking him. This was as clearcut a case of self defence as you could possibly have, and he should have been awarded a medal, not prosecuted for murder because the scum he killed were rioting for a politically protected cause. But the leftist mainstream media in the US, and the usual celebrity suspects, have created a shamelessly false picture of Rittenhouse as some kind of white supremacist thug – the opposite of the truth, just as they painted a similarly false picture about Nicholas Sandman. Sandman was another courageous youth who stood up to leftist bullies’ aggressive “demonstrating”and received hefty libel settlements from CNN and the Washington Post. As the NY Post reported: “Sandmann, then 16, was singled out after footage of his confrontation with Native American activist Nathan… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Telling tweet on the Rittenhouse case from Bill Ackman, a Democrat supporter and gun grabber who nevertheless recognises the evil of this politically motivated witch hunt and trial: https://twitter.com/Cernovich/status/1458962050701430786 “We came away believing that Kyle is telling the truth and that he acted in self defense….Our first hand impressions of Kyle were materially different from those we had previously formed based on media reports ….Media and political bias are dividing our country and destroying lives” He makes this important observation: “we believe that he will be found innocent by the jury. Often times communities react negatively and even violently after a jury verdict where they are surprised by the outcome based on what they have previously read in the newspaper, seen on TV or more likely been served on social media.” There will likely be more rioting – as we’ve seen before when leftist thugs want to pressure the system to accede to their demands – if, as will happen unless the jury is politically biased, Rittenhouse is acquitted on all but technical charges (minor in possession of a gun). Blame for that rioting, after the rioting thugs themselves, will rest with the establishment left that has intentionally pushed a… Read more »

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Good video evidence that supports Rittenhouse case. Rather tortuous logic re ‘white supremicist’ when the guys he shot were white. Looks like the case may get thrown out. Cue MSM breakdown. Mind you can hardly call CNN/MSNBC ‘MSM’ any more when they cant get a million viewers for any of their ‘shows’, sometimes 100k is a stretch. They completely relied on Trump for views ( paradoxically) , now firing of talking heads is underway.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Rather tortuous logic re ‘white supremicist’ when the guys he shot were white.”

Absolutely. As conservative and black commentator Sonnie Johnson said:

the left, we know exactly what they’re going to do, so it’s no surprise to see how they are responding in this, especially there’s not any black people in the case but yet they still find a way to make it all about white supremacy.

And actually the point under discussion here is a very interesting and important one. The conflation of “vigilantism” with self defence and the personal responsibility for fighting crime is something that our society failed on generations back, with the results we have seen here whereby we are forbidden from owning weapons for self defence and actively discouraged from resisting criminals or intervening to uphold genuine laws.

The same assault upon basic civic structure is underway in the US, and the dynamics here with the race issue are quite interesting.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

We need some of that there “the science” because technically neither oil nor coal is a fossil, so does that mean it’s good to burn?

David.in.Italy
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Whilst I grew up with the house & water heated by coal, (as it took until the ‘seventies to ‘invent’ central heating in the UK) – what annoys me most about coal burning is the potentially wide dispersal of uranium & thorium waste

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/coal-ash-is-more-radioactive-than-nuclear-waste/

[2007 article – for the same power plant size in MW, coal burning dumps more radionuclides in the environment than a nuke station]

Photovoltaics on every building, would be a good start, nice alternative.
(basically made from ‘fossil’ sand)

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  David.in.Italy

I built a little truck out of mechano aged about 11, it had a photovoltaic cell on top and ran around for ever and ever.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
JayBee
4 years ago

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-strong-incongruity-of-reported
This is some good analysis by the cat and some contributors BTL of the recent UK data reg. VE against hospitalisation and death, then comparing it to all-cause excess mortality, though mainly US one (BTL some on UK).
His conclusion is that a) it’s bad and b) now likely all about eliminating the control group (he’s been more of a cockup guy until now).

JayBee
4 years ago

This is a brilliant, entertaining rant from Denninger about the groups, the division and the, unlikely, reconciliation.
https://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?blog=Market-Ticker-Nad
I like it in particular as I have just had to gasp in despair again yesterday, when the German ethics commission voted for further gene therapy mandates and discriminations, with no one against and three abstaining.
How can you abstain and be neutral on such an issue?!
You’re a ‘crab’ then, at best.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup ‘is this really about Covid . . ?’

DM running its annual ‘patients dying as ambulances queue outside A&E’ baloney.

Total bollocks as always. On Tuesday I exited our main regional hospital at 16.30 which is peak kicking out time for day patients and A&E walk-ins, it’s also a busy time for taxis so I had to wait a while for one.
Just the usual ambulance arriving in the dedicated lane now and then either to pick up or drop off.
The Mail story frequently references these imaginary ambulance queues as it pretends to run about them being the result of some mysterious ‘other than covid’ thing.

Don’t believe me? Take a trip to your own A&E, just wait outside though they are busy people.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

When did you last hear an NHS dude on the media saying ‘Our hospital is running ok and there is nothing to panic about’?
If it happened, the zombies wouldn’t believe it anyway. They have been trained to think (well, gibber) ‘hospital – panic – overwhelmed – save the Hell Service – imprison yourself and everybody else’.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Independent SAGE, a pressure group of eminent experts who’ve pushed for an Australian-style virus elimination strategy

The Australian strategy ended up with tear gas, truncheons, rubber bullets, mass sackings of healthcare staff and the prosecution of doctors who give patients non-state approved exemptions from the experimental gene therapies. Australia went from arguably the best place to live in the world, to one of the worst abusers of basic human rights in 18 months. Australia is a broken state and its population mostly cowed and bewildered.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Western Australia and Victoria perhaps, there are clear differences between the various States in a country that most of us thought to be a single entity.
Perhaps the break up of Oz and Canada are part of the NWOs nefarious scheme?

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

More info about the rest of Australia would always be welcome.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Some Aus readers have told us that Victoria does not represent Australia as a whole, if at all.
The inference being that things are much more like normal in some other States.

I’ve had to dig deep into my history memory to recall that neither Aus or Canada are unitary states but are Unions of formerly separate Colonies cum Dominions. I might check out the right to secede if any of them decide not to follow Dictator Dan.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Victoria, NSW and NT have all disgraced themselves beyond redemption, although the last NSW premier was thrown out for massive corruption and the new guy is trying to backpedal a bit. Queensland is now starting to threaten its citizens to get the therapy or “they will be made miserable and isolated”. Tasmania is quiet, as usual. SA and WA are covid free. SA planning, like QLD, on importing covid on purpose during the summer. The stage of debate in Australia is very much “when 80% are vaxxed we can all go back to living like it’s 1999.”

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes, massive policy difference in the different states and territories, but my belief is they will all eventually converge in a national singularity, and I believe that will look like Victoria. We’ll see.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

You only have to look at the Abos to see how minority unvaxed will be treated. As Clive James famously remarked, Australia is full of prison guards not convicts.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago

Latest UKHSA report shows the Covid Vaccines have negative effectiveness as low as minus 126% as infections in the fully vaccinated soar

Hilariously, UKHSA said in their latest report that vaccine effectiveness should not be used to judge vaccine effectiveness – and that is almost verbatim. And yet still, they do not wake up.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Horse

Have I got this right?

‘Negative effectiveness’ = it infects you with what it is supposed to protect you from?

Clown World indeed

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Makes you less able to resist infection.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

. . . than if you hadn’t bothered in the first place? Wow! Thank you.

Horse
Horse
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Precisely. Could be TLR suppression or OAS. It’s just too early to know. Most concerning is could the effect, via OAS, be permanent in terms of mounting a response to future coronavirus challenges?

SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago

Several items ATL raising questions about vaccine efficacy. How big a concern is shedding?

In spite of my efforts, several members of my family and many other contacts have had or will soon be having their boosters. One of my brothers is having his tomorrow.

I normally see him in his flat every week and have said we should not meet for the next fortnight.

For his benefit – as jabees seem to be particularly vulnerable in this period.

For my benefit – as he could be shedding spike protein or who knows what else. (If shedding is a thing, then I wonder what the ‘quarantine’ time period ought to be)

Would be interested to know if others think such measures are a sensible precaution.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Sorry for the irrelevance, but are you Psmith? One of my heroes.

SilentP
SilentP
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Sorry, no!
There is some obscure logic behind my username.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  SilentP

Aha.

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Mine too! 🙂

JayBee
4 years ago

Snowdon compares a lot of apples with pears, in particular Winter with Summer, to come to the conclusion that everything his beloved government did was right.
It ain’t over until the fat lady sings though, neither for Winter, nor for the gene therapies.
The UK now reaps the reward of its peoples general incompetence and laxness, of letting it rip earlier and for longer, of saner minorities in particular not giving a fig, of pupils being freer to mingle and, I give them that, of opening up earlier and more than European countries.
That’s how the young could get during the summer, instead of during the winter as there. Denmark’s timing in particular was either particularly idiotic, or, more likely, deliberately mistimed.
But I guess if it helps to rein in the frownies/Covidians, we can bear his insults and just bide our time waiting for the fat lady to sing on even louder with regard to his beloved gene therapies.

JayBee
4 years ago

“It is important that false information cannot be spread with impunity. We live in an interconnected world, and false anti-vaxx propaganda can result in significant harm.”
I contrast to false vaxx propaganda, of course….

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

You may recall my cheeky little quiz the other day when I asked readers to spot the mistake in the local paper below.
They seem to have their propaganda back to front by inviting us to

“Help the fight against the environment”.

Still there 5 days later, Herr Goebbels would not have been pleased.

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CiacBiab
4 years ago

Those that desecrated that memorial should be publicly beaten to within an inch of their lives.

Scum.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  CiacBiab

Hitler built an elaborate memorial to those who died during his failed beerhall putsch in Munich, which included the names of the dead nazis, as the venue for an annual commemoration.

How would he have reacted to some over zealous supporters daubing it with
smash bolsheviks end the pact.
Graffito?

CiacBiab
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Quite.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  CiacBiab

Authorities removed the graffiti very quickly according to that report; just as they did last summer when the words ‘covid scam’ appeared at several major road junctions.
Such graffiti are usually left to just fade away.

CiacBiab
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I don’t like graffiti at all really, but road junctions are entirely different to a memorial to those who gave their lives, to allow arseholes like the graffiti writers the freedom to do what they did.

Although many of those freedoms do appear to be being taken from us now.

I think the way the world is going generally at the moment, many of those who made that ultimate sacrifice, and their families, would probably wonder if it was worth it.

.

isobar
4 years ago


WHO director shies away from pushing passports for shots that do ‘not prevent COVID’
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/who-director-recommends-against-vax-passports-admits-vax-does-not-stop-spread/

isobar
4 years ago


Fauci approved AIDS drugs toxic for adults to be tested on orphans, foster kids, RFK Jr. says in new book

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/fauci-approved-aids-drugs-toxic-for-adults-to-be-tested-on-orphans-foster-kids-rfk-jr-says-in-new-book/

Taxi for Fauci?

DS99
4 years ago

Taken from an article from The Expose website, this struck me

 “For one can argue that the purpose of the Pfizer lobbied vaccine mandates is to eradicate any unvaccinated control group from existence in order to prevent a proper evaluation of vaccine side effects over the medium term.”

They do seem quite keen on these mandates …

karenovirus
4 years ago

Roundup ‘A sea of staring eyes’ a phrase the anonymous academic author uses to describe a lecture hall full of bemasked students and how this will be the death of live university education. Students going through term without going to any lectures was commonplace well before Covid because ‘I can see them all online’. If not their own lecturer, they might even find a better one from the countless series of brilliant lectures from the best universities in the world that have been available for years. I’ve been watching some of these, and downloading those I liked, for a while and had already concluded that they foreshadowed the end of traditional Campus Universities well before the Pandemic. The author defends live lectures by saying they allow students to interact by asking questions. I soon learned to switch off at the start of Q&A sessions because, with few exceptions, students are very bad at asking questions. Universities are run to make money either through fees or subsidies. They will soon start flogging off their vast property portfolios in favour of online learning leaving only the likes of Oxbridge to cater for the wealthy who still prefer to be educated in an… Read more »

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

The ‘REAL heroes’ appear to have a problem with Caps Lock

mishmash
4 years ago

Another athlete – Pro MTB rider this time – talks emotionally about the hate received just for talking about his vax injury.

“I don’t know how the toxicity of people has become worse than the disease…we’ve done such a shitty job as people at trying to remain human.”

Quite so, but realise the agenda is anti-human in nature and is designed to bring out the very worst in people.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

Sorry, I can’t watch videos of grown men weeping about people being nasty to them on social media.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

Find out who the bastards are who did it and, if possible, deport them. If not possible jail them for a minimum of 10 years, roughly the total years of the two world wars.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

Huge protest in Melbourne today. And Mark McGowan got to wear egg on his face instead of a mask.

https://gregoryno6.wordpress.com/2021/11/13/lockdownunder-update-tide-turning-tyrants-tense/

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Excellent – the OUTRAGE shines through and the spirit of Crocodile Dundee is back. Call that a mandate? This is our mandate and it’s bigger!

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

I doubt that Melbourne saw protests of this size back in 1975 when Kerr sacked Whitlam. And that was lefties protesting back then – they know how to get the numbers out!
Got to say though, I’m getting tired of hearing from Americans online with their ‘Shouldn’t have given up your guns!’ bs. Just lobbed this on one at Gab:
Yeah, I’ve seen the footage of millions of Americans taking back their liberties from that farting fool in the White House. Oh, wait, no, that was just Kyle Rittenhouse.
Where are the rest of you?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Got to say though, I’m getting tired of hearing from Americans online with their ‘Shouldn’t have given up your guns!’ bs. Just lobbed this on one at Gab:
Yeah, I’ve seen the footage of millions of Americans taking back their liberties from that farting fool in the White House. Oh, wait, no, that was just Kyle Rittenhouse.
Where are the rest of you?”

Ouch. Harsh, but fair…

Always been a tricky one that. The argument about private gun ownership being for the defence of liberty against one’s own government has always been vulnerable to that reality check, which I’ve used in debate with Yanks in the past (they don’t respond well, in general). I still think it’s a valid argument (I think the US regime would have gone a lot further in many areas were it not for widespread gun ownership), but in the end, resorting to actually using guns against authority is a pretty dramatic step – going nuclear. Better kept as a general, implicit deterrent.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I agree that guns against authority is a dramatic step and not one that should be taken lightly. But it irritates me that those folks in Second Amendment Land diagnose our problems so flippantly. And they seem surprised when I push back. I was accused once (not this time) of asking Americans to commit murder. No, I’m just applying to you the standard you apply to us.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Can definitely understand your pov on that.

But in their defence I would say they are at least on the right side of both issues – opposing gun grabbing in their own country and correctly criticising the abomination that is Australian (esp WA) covid insanity.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

50k in attendance = 200,000 pro rata in UK

isobar
4 years ago

Dutch spirit on show!


Police blast protestors with WATER CANNON as Netherlands plunges back into Covid lockdown as shops and restaurants are ordered to close early and crowds are banned from sports events
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10197763/Dutch-police-use-WATER-CANNON-people-demonstrators-protest-return-lockdown.html

Mark
4 years ago

Chicago – the city living with the initial consequences of woke leftist rule (it will get a lot worse for them):

Tucker: This American city is in crisis

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

And this issue dovetails nicely with that of rising gun ownership in US black communities and the resulting pressure they are feeling from leftist gun-grabbers painting them as “vigilantes”, as discussed in the comments earlier on this thread re the Kyle Rittenhouse trial:

Media replacing self-defense with vigilantism: Sonnie Johnson

a lot of especially black men who want to be leaders and stewards in their communities are thoroughly punished if they actually step in and take those roles seriously because in progressive areas the responsibility is supposed to fall on the government not on us individuals to actually protect and defend ourselves.”

JayBee
4 years ago

Another conspiracy theory becoming soon true?
Or just woke lunatics now trying to run the asylum?

“Non-Binary” Assistant Professor Calls For “Stigma” Of Pedophilia To Be ‘Delegitimized’
https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/non-binary-assistant-professor-calls-stigma-pedophilia-be-delegitimized

Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Christ.