European Countries Bring Back Winter Lockdowns

Bad news for our continental cousins: lockdowns are returning to various European countries.

The first one to announce a winter lockdown is Holland, where bars, restaurants and non-essential shops will be ordered to close at 7pm for at least three weeks starting tomorrow. The Telegraph has more.

People will be urged to work from home as much as possible, and no audiences will be allowed at sporting events in the coming weeks. Schools, theatres and cinemas would remain open.

Caretaker Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s cabinet will take a final decision later on Friday, and will announce the new measures during a televised press conference scheduled for 6pm GMT.

New coronavirus infections in the country of 17.5 million have increased rapidly after social distancing measures were dropped late September and hit a record of around 16,300 in 24 hours on Thursday.

The new wave of infections has put pressure on hospitals throughout the country, forcing them to scale back regular care again to treat Covid patients.

To contain the outbreak, the government’s pandemic advisory panel on Thursday recommended imposing a partial lockdown and to limit entrance to public places to people who have been fully vaccinated or have recently recovered from a coronavirus infection.

A new lockdown would mean a drastic turn in policy for the Dutch government, which until last month thought that a relatively high vaccination rate would mean it could further ease measures towards the end of the year.

Worth reading in full.

Meanwhile, Austria is set to impose a lockdown on the unvaccinated. Forbes has more.

Due to record Covid case counts and crowded intensive care units, Austria is expecting to declare nationwide lockdown of unvaccinated people, in what would be the broadest restrictions that any country has yet placed on those who have opted not to get the jab.

A lockdown is “probably inevitable”, Austrian Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg said in a statement on Thursday.

It would follow an incremental government plan set in place in September, which states that a lockdown of unvaccinated Austrians must be implemented when 30% of ICU beds are occupied by Covid patients.

The current level is 20% and increasing fast, according to Reuters.

Unvaccinated people will not be allowed to leave their homes unless they are “going to work, shopping (for essentials), [or] stretching one’s legs”, Schallenberg said.

Upper Austria, the country’s third largest state, will begin a lockdown of the unvaccinated Monday, provided it receives legal confirmation from the Federal Government, Gov. Thomas Stelzer said in a statement.

Austria’s ministry of health says 65% of its population has been vaccinated as of Thursday, the second-lowest figure in Western Europe following the small country of Liechtenstein, according to Reuters.

You can read the rest of the article here, as well as BBC News’s coverage of Austria’s forthcoming partial lockdown here.

Stop Press: As David Paton points out on Twitter, the experience of Ireland, which has had vaccine passports for months and never-ending mask laws, but soaring rates of infection, suggests Covid restrictions do nothing to suppress infection. But we’ve known that for some time!

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Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago

Isn’t it funny how they don’t actually provide any evidence for this? They can just lock up people and no one asks “Based on what?” The media are at least 50% to blame for this mess. They are not doing their jobs and they are not asking the relevant questions.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

I find the media’s abject abandonment of their primary job appalling. At the end of the day serious news has one job: find the truth and print it. They are finding the bullshit and telling us it is the truth.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

This was happening way before the current shit-show – we are just seeing it applied in a more obvious way.

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

This has always been the case. Ive seen all this before with 911. The official narrative was clearly fraudulent, wars were being started off the back of it, the investigation was clearly a sham and labelled so by some of the investigators. The media is controlled by the people who are doing this, plain and simple. Watch this and ask yourself how much of this made the MSM.

War by Deception
https://www.bitchute.com/video/d8E6qLblH0Ib/

From the same author, Ryan Dawson, a highly intelligent and experienced researcher. I havent watched this but I would bet its very good.

The Real Bill Gates
https://www.bitchute.com/video/HZz18XvO01FV/

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

9/11: the embodiment of Islam.

Ander1991
Ander1991
4 years ago

“9/11: the embodiment of Islam.”

= “Let’s you and them fight”.

Hester
Hester
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

look at who owns the media and who its sponsors are. For example Pfizer is the largest sponsor of many of the main media staions in the USA. Bill Gates has invested in the BBC. They are the ones running and ruining countries for their own gain Politicians are just meat puppets

flipjg
flipjg
4 years ago
Reply to  Hester
Andy R
Andy R
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Not even finding it. They are being given it and told to print it by their corporate paymasters. It’s not even journalism any more it’s corporate sponsorshit.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

The main stream media are 100% to blame for this!

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Nah, I blame 100% the people that pay them, forget the little people on the frontline they’re just shills & stooges, following orders, it’s the grey “elite” that need to be held to account. Bill Gates et al.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I wont argue with that. Gates is the key figure in this man made chaos and his money has bought the media, the NHS, the government and our universities.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Not forgetting his CEPI cartel and pharma!

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Not forgetting who supplies “his money”….

B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Nope, (1) the elected government & crony parliamentarians, which are followed by (2) complicit medical & legal professionals, and tagging along in 3rd place we have the subservient media.
If Corbyn’s Labour had been in power implementing these same draconian expert driven Gatesian policies it would never have reached this stage, simply because there would be a massive kickback from the same MSM. Even the controlled RW opposition (that have refused throughout to lay a hand on BoJo) would have been relishing getting stuck into Corbyn 24/7.
PS: I give up on the UK people’s shameful subservience, hence why they don’t deserve a mention.

John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

Jeremy Corbyn voted in Mar. 2021 against the renewal of the police state laws, as did Clive Lewis, David Davis, Desmond Swayne, etc. Mostly the Labour left and the Tory right … oh, and the Lib.Dems.

Possibly it was the MPs who are now further away from the ‘deep state’.

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  John001

I agree. There was a reason why the MSM went after Corbyn hard. He wouldn’t have been anybody’s puppet. The same could have been said for Ukip too.

Independently minded MP’s who weren’t/aren’t happy with the direction of the country would have been much more hard pushed to implement this corporate tyranny.

B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

He wouldn’t have been anybody’s puppet. I respectfully disagree. Corbyn proved to be spineless throughout his leadership, and veered increasingly from the Old-Labour values on which he was elected. Had he remained openly consistent with the Bennite anti-Common Market / anti-EU stance (that he had always aligned himself with) the Labour party could well have won the 2017 election by 100% backing Brexit. As it was he tried to please too many people, and largely sat on the fence over Brexit while paying lip service to implementing the democratic will of the people. By the back end of August 2017, Starmer (already in the shadow cabinet) was on the rise and openly advocating party policy that could pave the way to a 2nd referendum instead. At that point, effectively, millions of left wing Brexiteers were officially disenfranchised, and so had no choice but to abstain or vote Tory in 2019 (as TPB had also capitulated). I have no doubt Corbyn PM would have done what he was told by Gates & SAGE & Big Pharma, but once the economy tanked and vaxx deaths passed even 50 the knives would have been out for him – unlike BoJo’s cabinet, which has… Read more »

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

You make some valid points. If he had led on old Labour Bennite values, he would have won the 2017 GE. Though if he were a puppet, it was to his base, who were overwhelmingly left wing students. I was a PPC for Ukip, so please don’t take me to be a friend of Corbyn style politics. However, what I saw him try to do, was to take on the Labour Parliamentary Parties money men (and their friends in the media) to grapple for control of the party. For that, he desperately needed his base. If he had campaigned on old Labour values, he might never had made it to the GE, as he would have alienated his base and been ousted by the money men. I think he could have eventually delivered a more robust Brexit than what Boris delivered, but he would have had to win over his base to do so. If that was ever possible. So with that in mind, I stand by my call that a Corbyn PM would have resisted Gates & SAGE. Moreover, I think he would have exposed them and stood with his brother in opposition. I do admit, it is in… Read more »

B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

Likewise I accept the points you make, but from the off Corbyn failed to stick to his core common sense working class old-socialist principles, that to many were a breath of fresh air after Blair, Brown & Miliband. Even died in the wool Conservatives know that without a strong ideological opposition in the HoC we simply have an elected dictatorship, and so it has proved the moment Starmer took over. So here we are back to the bog standard political essay beloved of examiners back in the day: ‘The one thing worse for an effective Tory government than a narrow parliamentary majority is a large parliamentary majority. Discuss.’ However it was clear from day 1 after his initial leadership victory Corbyn was in thrall to the PC leftists / proto-wokeists. Even after bending over backwards to make it a 50:50 shadow cabinet (ignoring ability for quota) the newly incumbent was immediately attacked by one of the new team (who had only just recently been elected as an MP) on R5 for women not getting the really big positions. Corbyn then felt obliged to go into a PC rant about delivering a parliamentary Labour party that had a majority of women,… Read more »

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

Cracking reply! Thank you. Though I think our thought processes on the whole affair are a little different. I think with the seeming lockstep of lockdowns/vaccines and now vaccine mandates, there would have been an approved ‘establishment response’ to this so called pandemic. And with that, I honestly believe the Corbyn opposition would have been demanding he lock the country down, and follow up with the rest of the steps. He wouldn’t have got much heat if he locked the country down. While they may not have sung his praises, they wouldn’t have attacked him on that decision. Perhaps the way he locked down, but not the actual policy itself. Think of Trump, and one of the rare times his actions as president wasn’t publicly criticised. In fact he got some lukewarm coverage. And that was when he launched missiles at Syria. I personally believe the so called ‘centrists’ that dominate the HoC would have pushed for lockdowns and the rest of the crap. And in response I believe it is/would be the fringes of the political spectrum that oppose it. In which Corbyn is part of. So respectfully, the picture you paint (in my opinion) doesn’t reflect the actions… Read more »

Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

I will admit quite a lot of ignorance on the topic, but Corbyn has never seemed to me as a man of principle. He has repeatedly gave in to the new wave of postmodernist marxism going around (aka wokeism). He has allowed rampant sexism into his party in the form of gender quotas, and he did the same for racism, with racially selecting MPs and siding with the vocal, radical side of the muslim community.

So to me it looks like Corbyn has always been a flag in the wind of the mainstream. He would have done anything to get elected, and this is what eventually led to his downfall, when he mistook the mainstream for the majority. I have no doubt in my mind that he would have imposed restrictions at least as strict as the ones we have had so far, maybe even worse ones. And don’t put too much weight on what he’s saying today. He has nothing to lose now.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

He is a communist and antisemite

186NO
186NO
4 years ago

For the life of me, don’t understand you downtickers – imho “guilty as charged” by actions and words

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago

By anti-semite, you mean he criticised Israel (as per IHRA re-definition of anti-semitism)

Is Israel the perfect state?

Ander1991
Ander1991
4 years ago

I don’t find you credible.

http://www.thejc.com/news/uk-news/145226/jeremy-corbyn-my-jewish-ancestry

I’m sure I wouldn’t know what exactly was up with the Labour AntiSemitism witch-hunt but it managed to emasculate the Labour Party as any sort of credible opposition, just in time for covid / Schwab / WEF.

Jeremy Corbyn signed this, and for doing so was “rewarded”:

https://edm.parliament.uk/early-day-motion/46238

Epi
Epi
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

PS: I give up on the UK people’s shameful subservience, hence why they don’t deserve a mention.”

But you have mentioned them!! 😂😉

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

I hold the media in serious contempt too. However, I’ll risk an unpopular post. I blame the people. It doesn’t matter what the political class, judiciary or media do. Or even the ‘grey elite paymasters’. If the people weren’t compliant sheep, it just couldn’t happen. Period.

They get what they deserve (and that includes love ones of my own.)

It just hurts they are dragging us down with them.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

Weak minds are easily manipulated, we are species of manipulators, followers & copiers, the majority of the blame must be awarded to the hypnotizer not hypnotized. We will need herd power to fight this, so it’s counterproductive to make them the enemies.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

This Telegraph piece being an example of poor journalism.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

and they can very conveniently hide behind OFCOM diktat…so convenient.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

69.9% of the population of Holland has been vaccinated. What is the percentage of these increases in cases broken down by vaccinated and sensible? Does anyone seriously think that the sensible are the only ones catching Covid?
I’ve long thought that the “Vaccines” are actually causing Covid to spread. An interesting thing to look at is China where they are intent on a zero Covid policy. They invented it. What is it they know?

cornubian
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Why are you talking about ‘cases’ as if they are genuine medical incidents?

miketa1957
miketa1957
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

I don’t think the Chinese “know” anything.

My hypothesis is that at the end of 2019 they noticed a new bug doing the rounds. Because of the way China operates politically, local authorities tended to keep quiet, but eventually it could not be ignored. Then someone high up put two and two together: Wuhan lab, working on coronavirus-HIV chimeras, possible lab leak, and came to the conclusion, paraphrased “Oh shit, have we released an airborne AIDS?” They panicked, total lockdown in Wuhan and so on.

But now they are trapped. They (like, the CCP level) cannot admit they were wrong (about taking it so seriously) so they are stuck with the zero Covid policy.

Edit: typos

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

I think part of your premise may be correct. One possible scenario is that security services fed governments with the possibility of a lethal lab leak, and that provoked the cross-country panic.

But, it needs to be remembered that the response was foreshadowed in the Swine ‘Flu (non) outbreak and in dry-run scenarios.

That’s why we smell rats.

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

Did you see the mayhem at the recent Travis Scott concert in Texas?
Looked eerily similar to those videos of Chinese ‘covid victims’ collapsing and convulsing, like all the oxygen was suddenly sucked right out of them.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

No. You gotta link?

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

Amazingly, in most of those incidents there just happened to be a cameraman in place with shot framed before the action took place.

Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

I doubt that. There is no such thing as an independent agency in China. Nothing could happen in the Wuhan lab that the higher ups were not aware of. Either this virus was released deliberately, or it escaped from the lab, but what I am certain of is that the Chinese government knew about it from the minute it happened. They were taking measures against this thing as early as September, maybe even earlier, and they never told anyone anything about it. They did not restrict travel from Wuhan in any way. This indicates to me that they knew what was going on, and they wanted to spread it all over the world. And were this some other country, I would be sceptical that a government would infect its own people and use them as biological weapons, but I have no problems believing that China is capable of such atrocities.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Fauci’s buddies were there doing the human side of GOF work. A UK animal disease research unit was also there but the two did not communicate because a Chinese Wall was in place (cough, cough).

Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

It is obvious to anyone who wants to look that variants appeared right after vaccine trials. Delta was first identified in India on the 1st of December, 2020, less than a month after India started their Covaxin vaccine trials on November 16th, 2020. Other variants were first reported in the UK, Brazil, and South Africa, which is where Oxford conducted their vaccine trials. We spent nearly one full year with this virus before any variants of any sort appeared. Then mere weeks after vaccine trials began, variants started sprouting all over the place. And we’re expected to believe it’s coincidence? And this isn’t the full story. Bill Gates also made a lot of effort to push a polio vaccine, so much so that India had to block it because that vaccine left hundreds of thousands of Indian children crippled. Today most people infected with polio are infected with a vaccine derived strain, coming from vaccines which were not fully deactivated, which ended up giving the patient polio, rather than preventing it. It seems that starting in the 1960s, these people have taken every single technological advancement that we came up with to make the world a better place, and they… Read more »

Proveritate
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Delta was first identified in India on the 1st of December, 2020

That’s not the case. It was detected and genomically sequenced in mid-October 2020.

Before vaccination roll outs there were many variants circulating in countries simultaneously. The vaccination programme exerted selection pressure to select the most vaccine-resistant circulating variant.

In India, Delta was just one of many variants circulating, around 4% of all cases at the beginning of March, having taken 5 months or so of competition to get to that level. The vaccine rollout in India effectively started at the beginning of March. By end of April Delta was 75% of cases.

Many countries now have 100% Delta, essentially a monoculture, due to vaccination tailored to the wild virus spike protein.

This is what happens if you vaccinate during epidemics and pandemics.You will tend to breed up the most vaccine-resistant variant or strain.

One of the reasons why this vaccine programme sucks.

This will not end well.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

Is this not what various scientists predicted would be the result of lockdown – instead of inducing the virus to leap from host to others, to enable the body’s natural immune system to react and defeat (and if not, resort to early treatment and hospitalisation as a last resort..), imprison the population, incubate the virus in an environment where it thrives without having to flee to new hosts.

and then these idiots insist on further shots of the same thing that did not “work” in the first place – no effect on infection/transmission and dubious efficacy on severity of symptoms (compared to successful early treatment drug regimes, Ivermectin preventing the S1 spike protein by preventing the virus attaching to the ACE2 receptor…) – and THEN insist on ….more lockdown; its winter, viruses are seasonally active, Alpha variant booster does not address, ever, the Delta variant……is this not a classic “doom loop”?

What name will be given to the next variant from the continent, I wonder….”RutteBollox”, “HesseHell”…..any suggestions?

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

According to the Dutch corona dashboard, 87.9% of the population over 18 has had 1 dose, 84.4% 2 doses. All age groups over 60 are over 90% vaxxed. According to the same dashboard, approx. 80% hospital admissions in the week 1 Nov – 7 Nov are people over 70. Approx. 65% are people over 80. Approx. 30% are over 90. They don’t give breakdowns for vaxxed/unvaxxed in hospital, but one can draw one’s own conclusions from the above figures. One can also draw conclusions from the fact that care homes are urging that boosters be brought forward from the December schedule asap and that last week ICU doctors were asking that boosters be expedited for overweight men over 40 – one may presume that this is the same thing as saying that they are seeing a lot of double vaxxed men in ICU. Latest weekly figures for infections showed 55% were vaxxed, the related bar charts seemed to show majority of unvaxxed to be school children (no specific breakdown like in UKHSA report). I’d say there’s 2 sources of spread – unvaxxed school children and vaxxed nassi pass carriers. The government has stated that even if you take a test… Read more »

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/labs/pmc/articles/PMC8546144/

Large-scale COVID-19 vaccinations are currently underway in many countries in response to the COVID-19 pandemic. Here, we report, besides generation of neutralizing antibodies, consistent alterations in hemoglobin A1c, serum sodium and potassium levels, coagulation profiles, and renal functions in healthy volunteers after vaccination with an inactivated SARS-CoV-2 vaccine. Similar changes had also been reported in COVID-19 patients, suggesting that vaccination mimicked an infection. Single-cell mRNA sequencing (scRNA-seq) of peripheral blood mononuclear cells (PBMCs) before and 28 days after the first inoculation also revealed consistent alterations in gene expression of many different immune cell types. Reduction of CD8+ T cells and increase in classic monocyte contents were exemplary. Moreover, scRNA-seq revealed increased NF-κB signaling and reduced type I interferon responses, which were confirmed by biological assays and also had been reported to occur after SARS-CoV-2 infection with aggravating symptoms. Altogether, our study recommends additional caution when vaccinating people with pre-existing clinical conditions, including diabetes, electrolyte imbalances, renal dysfunction, and coagulation disorders.

Encierro
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

I wrote on another section that a friend of mine, in the Netherlands, has contracted Covid. He is doubled jabbed as he plays classical music in an orchestra.. He is well isolating at home.
My step son-in-law has had to take his first jab the other day because of threats from Den Haag for un-vaxxed staff (in certain sectors) not being able to work. The family cannot survive on just one wage as they are both not high earners.

8bit
8bit
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

69.9% of the population of Holland has been vaccinated.

As I understand it, 0% of Holland has been vaccinated.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  8bit

That should be the star comment today.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  8bit

That is far far too insightful to The Downtickers….very evidently

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

looking at the percentages jabbed all across Europe what possible justification could there be for any further lockdowns and why are people tolerating them?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

Start saving up rope, the EUSSR vassal states are going to need a lot of it.

stewart
4 years ago

So…

Lockdowns didn’t solve the problem.
Masks didn’t solve the problem
Social distancing didn’t solve the problem
‘Vaccines’ didn’t solve the problem
Vax passes didn’t solve the problem

Time to grow up and accept a new, not very high risk of death.
Health services will be strained. If that’s too upsetting, expand health services. Otherwise, live with it.

Unfortunately we are hostages to governments that insist on saving us even though what they are really doing is abusing us.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

and in thousands of cases killing us or simply letting us die from lack of treatment.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Increase capacity, treat symptoms early, support isolation of highly vulnerable, LET IT RIP!

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Of course, the stock answer is that it would have been so much worse without those failed ‘solutions’.

David.in.Italy
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

I spent what felt like two hours this morning listening to a YT livestream from various apparently counter-narrative doctors and experts.
A news conference from the Swiss capital, hosted by https://aletheia-scimed.ch/
quite a bit of German, much of which was audio translated. Some very different viewpoints were presented, which I’ve no way of knowing if they were correct – but it was refreshing to hear passionate pleas from ETHZ scientists and some US commentators.

evaluate for yourselves “English Language media conference 12/11/21”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=155mNWNwCQ8 (that’s where I listened whilst doing some other jobs)

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

It depends which problem you were trying to solve.

If the problem was a populace clinging to revolutionary idea like “personal choice”, “informed consent” and “freedoms”, then that’s been thoroughly taken care of, and the social credit score apps will be the final solution.

Paul B
4 years ago

COP26 wind down, lockdown start up.

Weirdly, no one predicted this…………………………………….

Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Johnson has been so weakened by the Paterson business I don’t think he will be able to bully his party into backing another Lockdown. I am not sure Starmer would ride to the rescue on this occasion either. Plus the Zoe app has started falling like a stone, nearly 200,000 cases a week if yesterday’s drop is maintained, which would mean, by Christmas, the virus would be back to August 2020 levels. I won’t forgive him for the previous 20 months but Johnson looks like he might just be vindicated, which might win him the next election.

Jon Garvey
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

But what if Boris was bullied into lockdowns: then being weakened politically will increase the certainty of the same old.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

The arch-bully bullied?

Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon Garvey

He will claim he was bullied into lockdowns, is my bet for him extricating himself when people realise that the lockdowns were pointless and damaging. Just to clear things up, I am not commending the greasy little pig, I just think this is the tactic he will employ.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

Paterson business, is just political theatre to distract the masses, everyone already knows the tories are sleazy & corrupt.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

Cloud cuckoo land. Bozo is NOT in charge he is an order taker.

Will
Will
4 years ago

Original antigenic sin… Meanwhile in Sweden…

miketa1957
miketa1957
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

I’ve been watching Sweden. Figures look really good there, like nothing happening. My bet is that they actually achieved a decent level of herd immunity via the wild-type virus(es), and that is now showing how much better that is.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  miketa1957

I’m fairly confident I had science SARS CoV-1 back in the day. I’ve been near covid infected (their claim) & i’ve not had covid to my knowledge, in fact i’ve not had any respiratory disease for well over 15 years.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

-science dunno where that came from.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

I think you’ve overdone the “meanwhile in Sweden” thing by now, bud. Time to think of a new tag line. 😉

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Hahahahahahahhahahahhahahahhah to the twats!! 😉

cornubian
4 years ago

The criminal regimes implementing tyrannical policies on behalf of the global-capitalist ruling oligarchy are a new breed of fearless liar. They face no media inquest or political opponent. They do not fear justice. They do not fear the future because they assume they will own it. They lie with impunity because they see no consequences. Not now, not ever. The upshot is, we are never going to be able to vote our way out of this.

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

LOL – the politicians and incompetent public health gurus must be seen to be doing something (however unscientific), the public demands action. Oh and…. when, like the amazing vaccines, it doesn’t work – just blame the unvaxxed, the vaxxed are generally too stupid to work out that politicians and public opinion have no control over viruses that cause disease in the unhealthy and/or old…

No I'm Spartacus!
4 years ago

If they are lucky, they will be allowed out sometime next summer for a few weeks.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

Indeed – they will call it something along the lines of “freedom day”. Novel.

B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago

I claim my ethnic status now as ‘Unvaxxed’, and demand immediate UN protection against government and corporate intimidation. I will not live in an apartheid state, I will not be a second class citizen.
No good playing this arguing game any longer. The vast majority are now vaxxed but the virus still rolls along due to variants being shed by those same vaxxed, who are now more susceptible to C19 anyway. Yet we unvaxxed always get the blame, and are continually punished and vilified while the the stupid and corrupt in charge refuse to see the truth of this. Enough is enough.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

I’m transvaxxed & demand minority rights & protections.

B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Good person! In these desperate times we must even utilise the rules of wokery to defeat the institutions that rely on the illusion of wokery. We unvaxxed have had war declared upon us, it’s no good looking the other way and living in denial.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  B.F.Finlayson

Demand the right to identify as jabbed.

Bella Donna
4 years ago

How stupid are the stupid? How far do we have to travel down the rabbit hole before people WTFU? The jabs are not working so its freakin’ insane to keep pretending the vaxxinated are healthier than the unvaxxinated – they are not. No one wants to connect the dots except for those of us on alternative websites. Vaxxine passports wont work how can they its the vaxxinated who are causing the problems.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

do you think people will work that out when only the unjabbed are locked down [again], and the jabbed circulate freely, and the virus then continues to circulate and create “cases” and the unjabbed will be locked up so they CANNOT possibly be the cause [not that they are the cause anyway]

RickH
4 years ago

I have my reservations about Euromomo’s methodology for portraying mortality levels, but their line graphs do give a comparative overview of the situation across Europe.

It confirms my current pessimism re. the state of things. 20 months ago, we were looking at definite, unmistakable spikes in mortality. Now there is almost universal unremarkable flat-lining.

And yet … the incontinent fear and imposition of totalitarian measures continues, with Ireland a good example of the ludicrous situation. The population of Europe remains a collective Pavlovian dog.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

we were looking at definite, unmistakable spikes in mortality

You’ll get that if you abuse & use care home residents to kill each other. Now they’ve killed off the vulnerable & elderly, there’s no one left for the virus to harm.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Hence the “vaccines”!

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Coming to the UK for Christmas. Maybe it’s why they’ve been encouraging people to buy Christmas dinner 3 months in advance.

sophie123
4 years ago

Lunacy! what the actual hell.

Though I hope Germany close their borders completely, as my boss wants me to go with him on a trip there, and I haven’t explained yet that I have not partaken of the magic poison that would facilitate my entry to the country because I AM NOT PARTICIPATING IN THIS BULLSHIT.

Also, I am immune anyway, and have an antibody test to prove it.

Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

As things currently stand, my understanding is that, in a domestic setting, if you claim you are medically exempt, that is legally binding. I think that is the case in Wales and Scotland as well. I am trying to get hold of the doctor in my GP surgery who, I suspect, might be half sensible, to grant my family and me a full medical exemption. My argument is slightly circular in that we won’t be having the vaccine because our daughter suffered a catastrophic autoimmune vaccine injury and the stress of the coercion, and vaccine mandates, is causing my wife and me catastrophic levels of debilitating anxiety. It will be quite an interesting test of how independent the medical profession is…

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

Hope your argument succeeds Will – let us know how it goes.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

It might be worth reviewing the legal background, but it appears that there is no need for a third party to ‘grant’ exemption, just as it was re not using “face covers”. The reasons you explain might be useful background, but you should be able to declare your own decision, not to have it approved by another. It is not a licensing scheme.

As to whether your normal surgery is independent, it looks as if you already know the answer to that at present.

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Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

I’m immune to government bull shit too, after suffering a severe case most of my adult life. And i’ve a lifetime of experience to prove it.

Adamb
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

I’m dreading being asked to travel for my job as well.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

Oh I shall look forward to hearing how the proposed trip pans out. 😉

zners
zners
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

who did you use for the antibody test? I too got tested positive and got sent an antibody test, only having it come showing negative as it was probably done too early.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  sophie123

The official Pfizer/etc drug administration notes explicitly state that taking the drugs is (or should be) purely voluntary. Show it to your employer’s legal beagles and demand they take full liability for adverse consequences should they require you to take the drug.

unmaskthetruth
4 years ago

Excellent. They worked so well last time, and the time before that. Keep digging!

Smelly Melly
4 years ago

It’ll only be for 3 weeks to flatten the curve.

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Reply to  Smelly Melly

apparently the first 600 days of the 3 weeks are the worst

realarthurdent
4 years ago

Coming soon for the UK too.
We know this because the Prime Minister officially denied it, on camera.

Whether he gets away with it this time remains to be seen. I suspect compliance will be “limited”. But I have no doubt he is going to try.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

“with a heavy heart I am afraid I must announce that sadly there is no other option but to….” yada yada yada

we could write the script for him now

Teamsaint
Teamsaint
4 years ago

Asking questions now marks you out as a supposed nut job, ant vaxxer.

what is astonishing is how many liberals ( and I think of myself as one given that I have never voted tory) will not ask questions of governments about what is self evidently an authoritarian direction of travel .

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Teamsaint

Real Tories are the true liberals: shame there are none in Parliament!

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Teamsaint

Quite – people who in the past never believed a word uttered by a Tory government now believes whatever bollocks Johnson and his cronies come out with. It’s bizarre!

zners
zners
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

Information like this is gold

smithey
4 years ago

There is of course one way to stop all this madness. If people stopped getting tested for Covid then the authorities would not be able to point to case numbers as an excuse for lockdown. If you have symptoms of Covid then isolate at home until you are better (as you should do anyway if you have cold or flu symptoms as a common courtesy to others) but do not get a test.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

or get a LFT test, but don’t pass on results

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

people are OBSESSED with testing.

I am sometimes inclined to remind them to think of the last time they had a bout of the flu – or a bad cold – and ask them did they think to themselves back then “oh, I must get a test to see if I have some kind of bubonic plague type disease”

zners
zners
4 years ago

Its hilarious how its so transparent that they’re under pressure because of their below average vaccination rates

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  zners

 below average vaccination rates”

Below what average? Under pressure to do what, from whom?

zners
zners
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Well I dont know about the Netherlands but both Germany and Austria have what the media describes as “stalled vaccination uptake”. Hence my point is clearly theyre under pressure to threaten the public (the unvaxxed in partocular) with lockdowns.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  zners

Ah yes, I see

Mogwai
4 years ago

Bloody stupid paywall yet again! Anyhoo, calm down, calm down, it’s hardly a bloody “lockdown” if they’re keeping everything open, just with some early closing in bars FFS. And it’s still to be announced officially tonight. This does not qualify as a ‘lockdown’ in any way, shape or form though. Certainly not when compared to last year. https://nltimes.nl/2021/11/12/three-week-partial-lockdown-starts-saturday-cafes-close-7-pm

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Give them time. This ‘lockdown lite’ will achieve nothing, particularly if they roll out boosters – a rise in vaccination is followed by a rise in positive cases. After another, harsher lockdown, they will be able to bring in the 2g nassi pass.

The newspapers are speaking of the expansion of the nassi pass “announced” last week, to keep the unvaxxed out of non-essential shops and the workplace and no longer allow for a negative test. It was not “announced”, the topic was raised by the caretaker government, which was told by parliament there was no appetite for it. Another harsh lockdown and bingo, the filthy criminals get their way to expand the nassi pass and they get to exclude their scapegoat, another thing both parliament and the medical community stated last week was not the road we want to take.

I cannot tell you how much I hate that tw&t De Jonge and that even dirtier slimey b’stard Rutte.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Oh I hear you, and I too hate the fuckwits, especially De Jonge, as he spouts so much hate about those of us now deemed ‘Public enemy no.1’, who now need to be hung as heretics merely for declining an injection which we decided was of no benefit to us. Now we must be hung out to dry and persecuted for exercising our basic human right to bodily autonomy?? Fuck that for a game of soldiers!! He also is guilty of misinformation, but it doesn’t count as misinformation if a politician says it apparently. I hate them with a passion. I had to have my first and only Covid test today just so that I can go to my daughter’s 10th birthday party tomorrow. Still awaiting result. In what realm is this bullshit deemed “normal” or “just”? It’s completely fucked up on every level!

Encierro
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Now we have the full thing. For 3 weeks starting tomorrow. I have noted that this from the outgoing Prime Minister and cabinet.
Once again it would seem the virus can only be spread at night. Hence the closing of various shops and venues in the evening.
I have heard that the application of the 2G/3G systme maybe unconstitutional under Dutch law. If so I do hope someone acts quickly to stop demissionair premier Rutte
https://nos.nl/artikel/2405381-dit-zijn-de-nieuwe-coronamaatregelen-voor-de-komende-drie-weken
Sorry everyone but the link is in Dutch.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

There is no “maybe” about it, it IS unconstitutional! It is blatant discrimination, which in itself is against the constitution and numerous human rights treaties to which NL is a signatory – always loving wagging that finger at the rest of the world and lecturing… The face rag is against the constitution, so was the night curfew. They knew it and did it anyways and parliament sat back and let them. The courts did as well, apparently if a parliamentary majority agrees that the government may violate the law, it’s okay. The judges clearly do not understand the meaning of the separation of powers, that they are there to keep a government in check – particularly one that sits in parliament itself and orders its party members to vote as the party leadership commands (also in contravention of the Dutch constitution – “stemmen zonder last”). The government may make laws, the government may repeal and amend laws – including the constitution – but as long as the law is in force, the government and parliament are bound by it just like every other citizen. To suggest that a parliament may agree to “ignore the law temporarily” is utter nonsense and… Read more »

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Hahaha 4 ignorant fuckheads and counting….LOL How is it a lockdown if all shops, bars, restaurants, cinemas and theatres remain open? I think the thickos among you should revise what you think the definition of “lockdown”is! You’re welcome…bedwetters!!! LOL https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/lockdown

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Merriam webster = The woke dictionary.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

You’re free to try another. I’m spoon-feeding nobody.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

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Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

Hhahahahhhahahahhahahhahah twats on steroids!!!

nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

They are playing one of the biggest psy-ops, which is no spectators at sporting events.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

To save bother, just tell us when it’s all back to normal.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago

New coronavirus infections in the country of 17.5 million have increased rapidly after social distancing measures were dropped late September and hit a record of around 16,300 in 24 hours on Thursday.

The usual erroneous implication of cause and effect. No the increase in ‘infections’ is NOT due to stopping the pavement dance when anyone comes the other way – it is due to the fact that IT’s WINTER NOW. For fuck’s sake!!

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

It’s coming to Britain soon, the clamouring from the usual suspects has been going on for months and Kim Jong Johnson shows no sign of resisting it.

bringbacksanity
bringbacksanity
4 years ago

I am sure we are just considering now if the next U.K. lockdown is pre or post Christmas. Given the clowns in charge probably be pre Christmas.

what a joke. A sick joke

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

Well there would be no fun in introducing it “post” christmas.

Nothing to save or ruin in January.

tom171uk
4 years ago

It won’t be long before the international groupthink reaches the UK. Then we will rely on Boris having grown a backbone.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

You’re havin’ a larf.

tom171uk
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

I am indeed!

nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  tom171uk

It isn’t that long before Bunter will be putting himself forward for re-election. He is good at winning elections and he won’t do it acting as a Social Democrat. I don’t see him falling for the crap as easily as last year.

Proveritate
4 years ago

It’s utter madness. The data has long been in that lockdowns don’t work but are not neutral either – they trash economies, livelihoods, healthcare provision, education etc while providing no benefits except to select individuals who can rake off money.

Governments believe we are still all to stupid to notice that.

If it’s any consolation, the number of people that they can keep conning must inexorably diminish. There will always be some lockdown fanatics who will remain impervious to facts and reason. But there is an appreciable minority who ‘believe’ the propaganda for no other reason than that propaganda is effective, and they have been kept in the dark about the facts. No one who has been once enlightened as to the true state of things can ever become captive to that government narrative again: they will know how to see through it. And no one who was always able to see through it will be deceived.

And thus there will always be an attrition. Of course, once the narrative is a bust then they will bring out another one on another topic, a new con.

Encierro
4 years ago

Mean while in one part of Spain the president of the Galician region is looking at banning those who are not vaxxed from Hospitals and “events” whilst the latter will not matter so much the former idea is criminal.
The tweet is in Galician but you can use the twitter translate.
https://twitter.com/FeijooGalicia/status/1458812665304961029
Yesterday he tweeted that a quarter of those in hospital who are being treated for Covid are not vaccinated.However, that means that 75% of Covid patients have been vaccinated.
Earlier this year he wanted all of the living in Galicia to be forcibly vaccinated . He could not implement that because the highest Spanish court deemed it unconstitutional.

Encierro
4 years ago

Freddie Sayers from unheard has caused bit of stir by using the word unclean when tweeting about the new Austrian rules.
https://twitter.com/freddiesayers/status/1459200494094761991