Care Sector Could Lose up to 60,000 Staff Under New Mandatory Vaccination Measures

Starting from today, all care workers that have not been double vaccinated will be sacked. It is estimated that roughly 60,000 will lose their jobs as a result, with 20,000 having already resigned or been fired by their employer before the new law was applied. The Telegraph has more.

Industry leaders have repeatedly urged the Government to consider an “11th-hour reprieve” amid fears that the sector could lose up to 60,000 staff as a direct result of mandatory jabs.

However, a leading membership body has indicated that tens of thousands of staff may have already quit or been sacked as a result of the “chaotic” new rules, as the sector awaits the impact of the Department for Health and Social Care’s (DHSC) ‘no jab, no job’ policy on the final number of carers.

The National Care Forum (NCF), representing over 150 leading not-for-profit social care providers, surveyed its members and found that thousands of carers had already quit, and raised fears of the “human costs, financial costs and the loss in trust and goodwill amongst care staff and their employers as a direct result of this policy”.

The response from the member organisations, which support over 11,000 people, operate around 300 services and employ approximately 14,000 staff, found that 3.5% of carers had already left as a result of resignation or dismissal.

The survey, which covers the period between November 2nd to 8th, found that a further 4.4% might yet leave (including those who have self-certified for exemption or are currently seeking medical certification).

An extrapolation of the NCF figures suggests that if 3.5% of the current 550,000 carer workforce have already quit or been sacked, it means that as many as 19,250 may have already quit across the entire sector.

The NCF is not the only group concerned that thousands have already quit. Another leading industry body, which did not want to be identified, said the figure could be “even higher” than 20,000.

The NCF described the national rollout of the mandatory vaccine policy as “chaotic”.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: Read a heartbreaking story in MailOnline about a care home boss who broke down after having to fire six members of staff today.

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PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

This purely about bio-ID.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago

No, it’s first and foremost about depopulation. You don’t need a bio-ID when you’re dead.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Nah, its about digital currency & total control.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

It’s about all three of the things you mention.

Dobba
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

No – it’s about time these cunts were hung for their crimes of treason.

That little nugget said, and of course this will seem callous and controversial – but what needs to happen is they all get fired and then care homes collapse or they have a huge outbreak of covid/flu so people can see it’s not about protecting the most vulnerable nd only about control. I, of course don’t wish that upon these people in society, but if the route we’re going down is to fire people for their own bodily choices, then perhaps this is the only recourse left.

. . . and after that – we hang the Javid’s, the Hancock’s, the Adern’s, the Trudeau’s et every fuckin’ al.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Dobba

Bravo.

Dobba
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

You don’t.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

The nazis kept a very careful record of who they had killed and why, cross referenced in all sorts of ways using a fancy new card punching machine system courtesy of a fledgling IBM.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

What the Nazis didn’t do, was make the Aryan population prove they were still Aryan every six months with a risky medical procedure, under the threat of being declared untermensche if they didn’t comply. This is one of the differences that leads me to believe that we are witnessing something a little different.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Its still all about control and record keeping thereof which is the point I was making to Rowan.
How will they be able to judge their own success if they don’t know what the starting point was?
Happily that hubris is precisely what landed many of them at Nuremberg.

The Nazis had to redefine the definition of Aryan as the years went by and they started running out of men, even co-opting ‘Aryan looking’ men from the occupied countries when it suited their needs.

Dunno how IBM got away with it but we can all hazard a guess.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

five months now

/pedantic

Proveritate
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

It won’t stop with vaccines. This is just the beginning. Get them on that, and you’ve got them on the rest.

FarligGods
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

That’s because the jabbed are not the Aryans here….

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  FarligGods

Hmm they seem to think they are.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Its both depopulation with the survivors being digitised.

JayBee
4 years ago

Bio ID could have been achieved with a placebo too.
Therefore, it’s also about reducing the average life expectancy of the plebs over time, without being blamed for it and them queuing up for it instead.
That’ll solve the care, pension and government debt problems as well.
The upcoming care home and NHS crisis and deaths through these staff shortages are just another deliberate, nice side effect.
And until we meet our maker shortly before we would have been entitled to a pension, we must also be turned into lifelong junkies to make up for the loss of income of the medical industrial complex and class when there are no more oldies around.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

It’s often interesting to skein together a consideration of the overall strategy of the ruling class with a look at contradictions between sectors… In this case, parties such as the Sackler family have made a fortune out of keeping elderly people alive so they can pump them full of opioids. But summer turns to autumn and whole sectors of the capitalist economy can shrink.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

China faces a far worse population time bomb than the West does as a result of its decades long policy of one child per family.
Very soon those parents will start moving into dependent retirement with very poor state pension provision.
As the years roll by more and more pensioners will be supported by fewer and fewer only-child workers who have become embedded with a one child mentality even though the CCP has largely abandoned it.
This may explain their headlong rush into automated Socal Credit systems while there are still enough people to get it up and running.

D B
D B
4 years ago

Anyone else feel like we’re hearing more about the impact but then nothing actually changing or happening – it’s groundhog day, its demoralising – and particularly on this day of remembrance for the sacrifices made against tyranny, my hope is giving up, wearing thing – expiring. Where to next for our cause?

Teddy Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  D B

Insurrection is the way out.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

An insurrection by whom?

You need numbers. I’ve (like others here) been at this for nigh on two years. What I hear most often now is : ‘It’s OK – we’re back to normal almost’, not ‘This is fucking disgraceful and fascist’.

Teddy Edward
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

There are numbers but not organised waving flags on a day out to London doesn’t quite cut the mustard.Im at a loss,but willing to get stuck in when the opportunity arises.I’m hoping for a Revolutionary act.
I’ve spent the last 20 months pissing in the wind as the World has fallen into Totalitarianism. What do I need to do to protect my family?
ps You don’t need to get angry with me.I am on your side after all.

timsk
4 years ago
Reply to  D B

I’m inclined to agree, D B. However, I remind myself that when watching a footy, rugby or tennis match – whatever – the dominant side is very rarely dominant throughout the whole game. The weaker side almost always has its moments. The government, its agencies and those putting out its propaganda will – sooner or later – be hit with a backlash. The question isn’t whether or not it will happen or, even, when it will happen. The question is whether or not it will be big enough to cause a paradigm shift in policy. The obvious focal point is the next general election. Needless to say, Labour aren’t going to do what needs to be done, so I’m hoping that one of the other parties starts to gain traction and support as more and more people realise they’ve been repeatedly lied to and conned by a government with an agenda that has nothing to do with the pandemic. Tory sleaze helps. The NHS CEO making grossly misleading statements helps. Mandating vaccines for NHS staff against the recommendation of professional bodies – helps. Overriding the JCVI’s decision not to vaccinate children – helps. The disconnect between the PM saying the… Read more »

D B
D B
4 years ago
Reply to  timsk

Lovely sentiment, picked me up off the canvas to keep the sporting analogy going.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  timsk

Love this post, as ever!

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  timsk

”The next general election…” There’s optimism!

Encierro
4 years ago

I gave link to that teh other day and a bit disappointed this website never took it further.

Rogerborg
4 years ago

Should be sacked does not necessarily mean that they will be sacked.

I hope that care home owners will decide to take either an ethical or pragmatic stance on this and allow their staff to keep providing vital care until and unless State thugs show up and prevent their residents from receiving it by using physical violence – which is what all bad laws boil down to sooner or later.

James Kreis
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

I agree and I hope that their vaccinated colleagues unite with them in solidarity. “One out – all out”.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Care home owners tend to be involved in such filthy financial dealings, often involving renting properties from offshore vehicles they’re associated with, that I can’t see them putting up the barricades if their licences are suspended or removed.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Apropos…have freemasons been holding their lodge meetings online?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

The Freemasons operate a large nursing home in.my city. They pay their staff considerably more than any other such home.

Points arising.
1. The Freemasons as a political body are far more able to stand up to the governments diktat than most.

2. They have already shown a commitment to the welfare of their staff and might use that power to defend reluctant staff against the government.

3. Such is the demand to work in that place any dismissed staff will be very easy to replace.

Before anybody starts, this is not a defence of Freemasonry, it is simply a description of the facts as they stand.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Point 1: not applicable – they don’t “do” politics in the way you suggest;
Point 2: very applicable to my certain knowledge;
Point 3: I think you are correct.

Freemasonry, as with other charitable organisations of a similar ilk but very rarely mentioned in the same sentence, does not need a defence……

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Yes to a certain extent within the confines of what could be carried out but otherwise no – very strictly applied rules were put into place and rigidly adhered to as far as I know.

Don’t know about Rotary, Lions, or any of the dozens and dozens of Livery Companies, or other similar societies in an otherwise “free” society, which you forgot to mention.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

I floated ethics out of an over-abundance of fairness.

The practical considerations are that they can also lose their licence if their home is under-staffed, and that if staff number drop too far, their remaining over-worked staff might start looking for opportunities elsewhere.

It’s not a solid hope, but I’ll cling to it for a little while.

karenovirus
4 years ago

If I was still out and about I would still be in contact with some of the victims of this probable breach of employment law. Cast your minds back several years to the murder of Baby P. in the Democratic People’s Republic of Haringey. As soon as the Director of Children’s Services (or somesuch title) Sharon Shoesmith was sacked Live on TV by a Labour Minister I was aware that she would win a case for unfair dismissal, not because she didn’t deserve to be sacked but because due dismissal procedures were not followed. I posted about this on a couple of small Blogs that I was active on at the time ( one of which later pointed me to this site) not because I’m an expert but because I’d recently had a chat with an HR manager of my acquaintance on the very subject. Two years later Shoesmith was quietly awarded substantial compensation having failed to find alternative employment in the meanwhile. Procedure is all so I do not apologise for reposting the attached which some thought might be helpful. Two written warnings must be given regarding breach of contract or gross misconduct. If today is the deadline for… Read more »

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Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The law is whatever the biggest gang around says that it is.

This is the mistake that Freementals on the Land keep making over and over. They think that they can point to words on a piece of paper, or even at what courts have ruled in the past, and cast a binding spell over what different courts and more progressive judges, with a… common purpose… will rule in the future.

And given the rulings that we’ve seen out of our courts recently, I am under no illusion that they will give so much as the time of day to any revolting peasants kicking against the WuFlu pricks.

I grant that a few victims may receive some compensation years down the line, but far too few and far too late to alter the trajectory of the tyranny.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Exactly might makes real ,not right.

We let them disarm us and choose for us. We are now slaves.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Shoesmith won compo on procedural grounds through the Industrial Tribunal where neither intent nor guilt need be established.
She remains dismissed and last I heard was still unemployable.

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

But some carers could consider that this may buy them some time in which they can go on helping vulnerable people – which is the reason they’re doing this job. I have been involved in caring to some extent and I would have prevaricated as much as possible to allow me to continue helping the people who needed me.

A Sceptic
A Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Speaking as someone in HR, the process for dismissal in this case is not the same as the written warnings you describe. They are being dismissed because of a statutory rule, which is different. Moreover, in order to get the mandatory two jabs, they had to have received the first a few months ago. So anyone who did not would have been warned of the consequences back then.

The law in this case is watertight, sadly, and only a small number of unfair dismissal claims will be successful, where employers made mistakes in the process.

Immoral, unethical and stupid from whichever way you look at it, but the law is clear.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  A Sceptic

Thank you for that clarification from one who clearly knows. A sorry state of affairs nevertheless as you say.

As I made clear I make no claim to expertise but did follow Shoesmiths case closely.

Perhaps your explanation adds to our understanding of why NHS staff have been given several extra months to come into line.

A Sceptic
A Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Shoesmith was a great example, I watched that too and waited for the inevitable ET case to come along, you are absolutely right.

As for the NHS, they are trying to get more vaccinated before implementation. When the care homes thing came along my reaction was (along with lots of other HR people), leaving aside the moral issues, “they couldn’t be so stupid as to crash a sector which is already struggling, could they?”

Well, we know the answer to that now, so all those people who think they won’t do it in the NHS because they can’t afford to lose staff should pay attention.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  A Sceptic

Using Care Home Staff as an example to those still reluctant within the NHS perhaps?
There are actually many non patient facing nursing roles within the NHS, it’s how they recalled many of their own ‘covid-vulnerable’ self-shielding staff when staffing levels got tight because of Track’n’Trace.

I was looking through some my deceased mums old nursing stuff the other day. A squalid little document (post war paper shortage?) recognises her achievement at becoming a State Registered Nurse and giving her permission to purchase the appropriate uniform in the sum of £3/3/0
(£3.15 in todays money) probably the best part of a weeks wage.

Lozboz
Lozboz
4 years ago

To the smug bi-jabbed/boostered people, I promise you that if you give in to this Covidpass tyrony now, that won’t be the end if the matter. One day, and that day will come, you will find yourself on the wrong side of the powers that be. You may not know why, but out of the blue, you will be excluded from life. But by then it will be too late. The road to hell is paved with good intentions. And also with those who sat by and said nothing, did nothing, while evil intentions stalked the land.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Lozboz

The double-and-treble jabbed, according to some leading scientists, won’t be around for much longer.

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

One can but hope, specifically those behind this evil – but I’m rapidly losing patience with cretins as well.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Would someone else care to flag this as spam, I’ve already done it three times over the past few days.
Red flag top right of comment. It will be removed.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

done

D B
D B
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I am also doing it regularly too

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Oh, well people will have to look after their own family. Instead of passing the responsibility on to government. Dependence on the state is how you arrive at tyranny!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Maybe so of residents whose fees are paid for by local authorities but what of those whose family are paying or are using a second mortgage on the family home to pay those fees. The latter are not dependent on the state yet they are still second hand victims

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

fees are paid for by local authorities

Paid by taxpayers.

family are paying or are using a second mortgage on the family home to pay those fees.

Hmm that’s a lot of variables that leads me down the right to own property & inheritance rabbit hole. But why should others pay (taxpayers) if the family have the assets to pay, that’s socialism & deflects from my original comment.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Because see where “F*** you – I’m all right, Jack” leads.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

“I’m got myself into trouble so fuck you i’m going to fuck you too” marxism killed 100 million in the previous century.

So no thanks. You cannot morally coerce the sensible to reward the feckless.

The safety net is called savings (another thing ruined by the state is banking whereby the interest rates are manipulated by the central credit pricing agency that terms itself the central bank).

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Did you understand “family” did you misunderstand paying for someone else’s “inheritance”?

You can be charitable & give to charity, i’m not stopping you.

Where do you think socialism leads? You’re seeing it now!

ZR_
ZR_
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Socialism looks an aweful lot like capitalism with all these mega corporations running the show.

Not “real capitalism”?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  ZR_

You’re not likely to see this but much of the corporate profits comes from patent title (which is subsidised i.e. the monopoly it provides the holder is free) this is the opposite of Adam Smith/David Ricardo capitalism.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I thought your point is that it is unwise to become dependent upon the State because that way leads to tyranny, as you rightly say, thus more vulnerable to any unreasonable demands the State might make on them.

That was the whole point of introducing Universal Credit, a money clawing system that bozo used Covid to enormously expand and so create another tranche of people so dependent using money borrowed from your grandchildren, and theirs.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

No what i’m saying is, i’m fed-up of this culture of paying someone else to do your dirty work & then expecting taxpayers to fund it!

I think the point is self-reliance, personal responsibility & loyalty to your family. I never said family was easy or convenient, None of the aforementioned is.

I’m as equally opposed to crony capitalism & protectionism as I am Marxism & socialism. We should be responsible & free to make our own way in the world, without stifling rules & regulations made by technocrats.

If you’ve got a family that can look after you, they should, if you have savings or assets that can pay for your OWN care, why should others pay for it.

Care homes are just another corporate money pit & it’s taxpayers that pay for it. Inheritance isn’t & shouldn’t be aright, it’s a privileged gift.

I find paying inheritance tax to the state to pay for unaccountable scientists & technocrats to rule over us just as objectionable.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

We seem to be closer to agreement than you think.
I’m not here to discuss crony capitalism or the benefits of the intergenerational transfer of private wealth.

If I were in a position to pay for my own care I think I might opt to use that money to hire sufficient unfairly sacked care workers to provide me with round the clock care in my own home with my own rules about visitors and wotnot, including paying my relatives to be ‘carers’ in time of Lockdown.
They can inherit what’s left.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Yes we are, I get particularly heated about the modern culture of convenience! I respect self-reliance & independence, not wealth that absolves people of their personal responsibility.

I think care homes in the main are about convenience not responsibility, of course there are exceptions. I think it would be better all round if we cut out the exploitative middle men, government & corporations.

Back on subject, WTF has it got to do with government who people employee, we’ve gone too far down the totalitarian road & now we can’t back out of it.

ZR_
ZR_
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

The only way to win this game is for your team to control the state and wield power in your own interests. A power vacuum is always filled and you don’t fill it your enemies will.

Going Galt is not a solution.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

What kind of emergency is it when you can afford to lose 80,000 people from the private care sector and over a 100,000 from the public care sector (NHS)?

This is an absolute disgrace and I hope legal action is underway.

JayBee
4 years ago

Save yourself the money. The judges are all-in with the criminals.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

The judges are the criminals, it’s why they have leverage over them.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Jimmy Saville with a gavel.

RickH
4 years ago

What kind of emergency is it …?

You’re absolutely right. But, in these terms, most of the population can’t get to 2+2=4.

karenovirus
4 years ago

There is no emergency but see A.Sceptics explanation of the legal position above.

PartyTime
4 years ago

Cochrane review of care workers and flu vaccines found no evidence that unvaccinated care workers were passing flu on to care home residents https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD005187.pub4/pdf/full

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  PartyTime

Flu vaccines don’t work, they are yet another pharma fraud.

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/full/10.7326/M19-3075

Annals Of Internal Medicine

The Effect of Influenza Vaccination for the Elderly on Hospitalization and Mortality
‘The data included 170 million episodes of care and 7.6 million deaths. Turning 65 was associated with a statistically and clinically significant increase in rate of seasonal influenza vaccination. However, no evidence indicated that vaccination reduced hospitalizations or mortality among elderly persons.’

cyclingnut69
cyclingnut69
4 years ago

I spoke to a young lady last night who left her care worker job a month ago. She said 70% have left as aren’t interested in the jabs…..70%! She said another home locally usually has 18 staff on a shift and now are down to 4 as they have all left sue to this mandate. She said many care homes are closing down as a result of all of this.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Well we have to keep everyone vulnerable safe…. oh, hang on…

Star
4 years ago

The “unless medically exempt” rule doesn’t make any sense. Compare: “In the interests of passenger safety, train drivers must be qualified. But if there’s a medical reason why a train driver can’t be qualified, then let him go ahead and drive a train, and the hell with the passengers.” It’s not the welfare of care home residents and other patients that the government is looking after here, is it? The rule is general propaganda to support “No jab, no job”, especially in the public sector and in other work that involves serving and entertaining the cattle public, which is quite a lot of work. It’s rather like what they used to say about the British army in Northern Ireland – when you order a man to shoot somebody standing on the next roof, you don’t want him asking “why?” They don’t want “thinker” nurses. They want utterly browbeaten nurses who will do whatever they’re told and who will come down like a ton of bricks on patients who won’t do the same. Now why would the government want hospital staff, and other health staff, including in care homes, not to be the kind of people who ask “why?” Looks like… Read more »

Beowulf
Beowulf
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Perhaps if the soldiers had asked “why” the Government wouldn’t be prosecuting them 50 years later.

Teddy Edward
4 years ago

Well I must be sacked as from today.Strange no notification,no consultation no negotiation?.Again to repeat myself I’ve heard nothing from my Employer,RCN or NMC.This must be a distraction empty threats?

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  Teddy Edward

It appears to be another government bluff to try to try to fool people into taking the jab.

brachiopod
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

There has to be a case taken up to the Supreme Court to establish that an individual cannot be coerced or forced to take an experimental medical product that is still in trial process with few report so far sent to the drug agencies to establish safety and efficacy.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

I heard on talk radio that the government had said just yesterday that care workers can just self certify that they can’t take the vax for medical reasons.
I assume being sane would count as a medical reason.
If this is correct then this is just another example of the government lying in on order to coerce people to take this injection.
Boris and his cronies should be in prison.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

That would certainly let the government off the hook to a certain degree.
Even an otherwise fit (in the old fashioned sense) young care worker could claim that being vaccinated would cause her/him stress and anxiety, as indeed it might.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

This letter regarding vaccine damage was published in the BMJ letter section, then a few days later it wa removed. The letter – K Polyakova Consultant Dear Editor I have had more vaccines in my life than most people and come from a place of significant personal and professional experience in relation to this pandemic, having managed a service during the first 2 waves and all the contingencies that go with that. Nevertheless, what I am currently struggling with is the failure to report the reality of the morbidity caused by our current vaccination program within the health service and staff population. The levels of sickness after vaccination is unprecedented and staff are getting very sick and some with neurological symptoms which is having a huge impact on the health service function. Even the young and healthy are off for days, some for weeks, and some requiring medical treatment. Whole teams are being taken out as they went to get vaccinated together. Mandatory vaccination in this instance is stupid, unethical and irresponsible when it comes to protecting our staff and public health. We are in the voluntary phase of vaccination, and encouraging staff to take an unlicensed product that is… Read more »

IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Very interesting letter. Do you know when it was originally published?

Star
4 years ago

One thing we can expect is that the authorities will say the number of care home workers sacked turned out to be small, not as large as everyone was anticipating. They are bound to say that.

We know some of you were hesitant. But you saw sense in the end. It’s only antisocial vermin, egged on by Russian-backed websites, who remain resistant, now.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

And Russian interference “FakeNews” is basically Clinton lies.

martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
4 years ago

A pandemic so deadly they can afford to sack as many as 60,000 health works…..

realarthurdent
4 years ago

I think the point is they want the pandemic to be deadly. What will be the net result of this policy? More elderly people will die. The government know this. They must either want this to happen, or they don’t care how many people die because their main objective, whatever it is, is more important to them.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Everything they do is for a reason.
If the care homes can’t take the elderly in the hospitals will fill up. Boris can point at the overflowing hospitals and claim that it is the pandemic and then impose vaccine passports as the only solution.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Exactly, and instigate a new lockdown if that is what they want. Or at least try, although I think they will find observance is rather more patchy this time around.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  MrTea

Because of course vaccine passports do F A in a “pandemic,” just like the old ‘flu passports…

brachiopod
4 years ago

Surely anyone forced out or dismissed is entitled to their day in court to argue that refusal to take part in a medical trial cannot be grounds for dismissal – especially when the medicine being trialed neither claims (by the manufacturers) to be able to prevent infection and transmission nor has it proven to do so in real world use.

As has now been shown in numerous research studies and in a submission to the FDA by Pfizer for their new antiviral pill, both the pill and the WHO ‘essential’ medicine ivermectin block replication of the SARS-CoV-2 virus in patients, AND that neither rely on the patient’s immune system (that fails for many reasons i.e. old age, obesity insulin resistance etc.) to do the heavy lifting of resisting the virus.

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

As far back as February Oxford University told us that this illness could be dealt with via budesonide, a well established asthma treatment that is very safe and costs pennies.

https://www.ox.ac.uk/news/2021-02-09-common-asthma-treatment-reduces-need-hospitalisation-covid-19-patients-study

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

Have they screwed up by approving non vaccines to treat COVID as this basically was a prerequisite for the “Emergency approval” of the clot shots?

Margaret
4 years ago

In my post the other day, I said that I had written to the MRHA on this very subject- ie once the wonder pills are approved for use against Covid will that negate the vaccine emergency licence?
”Ella” replied by sending me the marketing agreements for the three U.K. vaccines- these were the EMA marketing agreements by the way.
I wrote back, repeating my question which had not been answered.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Finding the Emergency use approval online has also become hard.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Avoiding answering the question is close to an admission of guilt. I thought there were at least two justifications of “Emergency Use Authorisation”: 1. There is actually an emergency. 2. There is no alternative treatment available.

brachiopod
4 years ago

They had to give them EUAs to justify the massive investment of our money and, to continue with the lack of early treatment provided to patients, many of whom died for lack of treatment because multiply novel vaccines (mRNA + Lipid nano particles) were the ONLY solution to the pandemic that wouldn’t have been called such without the 2009 change of definition so that mass fatalities were no longer a requisite. NB Italy, on evidence of whose fatalities we all panicked, have revised the ‘of covid’ fatalities by 97%, that 97% now being recorded as ‘with covid’ presumably, even fewer ‘of covids’ than the US CDC whose estimate in spring 2020 was 6%.
The inconvenient truth is that we never had a pandemic, and everything that followed was unnecessary, EVERYTHING.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  brachiopod

In a nutshell Correct which means all this has been forced on us for other reasons.

Now what might those be?

Answers on the back of your social credit card pass.

I thank you.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Protect the NHS by firing the workers! Yay!

B.F.Finlayson
4 years ago

This is still more good news for the unvaxxed, but only if these employees stand firm. Just as nature (allegedly) abhors a vacuum, a proper laissez- faire economy (as opposed to the risk free, taxpayer subsidised, profit for all crony-economics of the current government) would never let an opportunity like this pass by: 1) There are several million unvaxxed people needing day to day healthcare (as well as long term social care), who no longer trust the NHS or want to catch nasty spikey variants from the experimentally vaxxed guinea pigs while attending, and… 2) There are countless thousands of soon to be unemployed unvaxxed expert medical professionals and carers. Put the two together and you have foundation of an Alternative Health Service for those who will not be bullied or coerced into Big Pharma guinea-piggery. And since this AHS is going to look after 10% – 20% of the population, then it has a legitimate demand on 15%-20% of the NHS resources and capital that we have all paid into. If you want to push for a fascist two-tier arpartheid state, Boris, then see if you are brave enough to face the consequences; then we’ll see who is still… Read more »

Sforzesca
Sforzesca
4 years ago

Were we not so far down the rabbit hole I’ve little doubt that the Tribunals would ultimately uphold unfair dismissal claims.
But, we are where we are and as such the powers that be could alter employment law to suit any eventuality.

That said, it will be interesting to see what happens should a reluctant jabee contract a serious chronic auto immune disease – or death – proven to be caused by the jab.
All care employees must beforehand make it clear in writing to their employers and the “Health Secretary” (oxymoron) that they will be taking the jab just to keep their job, and that apart they would choose to remain unjabbed because of the eminently foreseeable adverse health consequences.

This is Court of Appeal/Supreme Court territory territory.
It would take a trashing of both the Common Law and Statute to alter the law so as to preclude potential claimants success given the above scenario.

I’m sure many Lawyers are on this BUT please spread it around.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Sforzesca

The judges have been bought.

Coroners have been bought.

End of.

Margaret
4 years ago

Just been listening to some very sensible care workers talking on local radio. Some of them have been double jabbed ( under duress) but they talked about asymptomatic or mildly symptomatic double jabbed being more dangerous than those who were not jabbed but were taking regular tests.
One of the contributors was a domiciliary worker who told the listeners that he and other domiciliary workers were not being forced to take the jab. It only applied to residential homes. Don’t know if this is true or not.
Once again, as with mask exemptions, businesses are doing the government’s dirty work for it. I would guess that a lot of health care workers have, with the blessing of their bosses, declared themselves exempt as did I for mask wearing.

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

And a significant part of the ‘dirty work’ is the somewhat backdoor admission that ‘exemption’ is, in effect, a private decision and declaration. It does NOT need to be approved by any third party. Its quite clever politics to avoid the risk of being sued for one thing or another, by deliberately misleading the general public, and at the same time publishing clauses that keep themselves out of potential legal problems, with it all being hidden away in the appendix etc.

In the meantime, there is a lot of confusion which is being deliberately enhanced by the usual suspects.

John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

He must have been paid a bigger ‘bonus’ by Pfizer.

Presumably it’s now banked in the Cayman Islands or BVI.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

But the official line is that ‘clinical trials for Valneva have not been completed’.
And that’s a no-no?

Liz F
Liz F
4 years ago

“Starting from today, all care workers that have not been double vaccinated will be sacked.” Who’d have thought we would ever read those words? I hate this “new normal”.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Liz F

and in a few months more people who decide the booster is not for them will also be sacked.

thinkcriticall
4 years ago

Johnson & Javid et al. I hope you’re watching. You’re on the wrong side of history.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFtUwp2jicM

steve_z
4 years ago

daily new symptomatics from Zoe are down 25% from the peak 12 days ago

everythings open, schools are back, going into winter, weather changing

looks like its going to be over (herd immunity) – if we can just tone down the fascism we can get back to normal (if thats what they even want)

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Of course it’s not what they want.
Who, before the covvibollix, had heard of Savij Jabbid or Wankok or Dungford or the rest of the filth? Do you think they want to revert to their natural state as pathetic nonentities?

J4mes
4 years ago

I see yet another highly regarded body-builder has suddenly died. I’ve been paying attention to the alarming number of body-builders dying over the last year and those in the industry are starting to really freak-out with worry for their own wellbeing.

Today it’s being reported that Victor Richards has suddenly died. This follows Matt Mendenhall, George Peterson, Shawn Rhoden and John Meadows. Someone called Kali Muscle nearly died from a heart attack.

You have to wonder if there’s any conflict between the fake vaccine and the steroid abuses body builders are known for. For clarity, I haven’t checked the background of each case so I am not saying that any of these individuals abused steroids or had the double-jab, but the sudden huge spike in deaths in this profession most raise questions.

John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

It would be valuable though to look at the deaths figures for such people from 2020, 2019, 2018, 2017, etc.

That way, the study would be as valuable as Dr. David Grimes’ study of deaths of BAME doctors vs white doctors. He read the BMJ obituaries over a long period, he judged from the photograph what the doctor’s ethnicity was and he also recorded the age of death. He found that BAME doctors died much younger on average than white ones. Doctors are all high-status individuals, so it wasn’t due to differences in status. He concluded that the likely explanation was vitamin D.

gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Mostly all bodybuilders are using steriods, amphetamines and opiates.

Annie
4 years ago

It’s a but late to start complaining now, NCF. Didn’t you see this coming? Did nobody tell you?
FFS.