Sajid Javid Urges the Elderly and Vulnerable to Get Booster Jabs to Avoid a Winter Lockdown

Sajid Javid has called on all those eligible for the booster jab to take up the offer and do their part to avoid the need for a winter lockdown. The Health Secretary added that, as immunity against the virus begins to decrease over time, a third dose is needed to protect the public. Sky News has the story.

Around 30% of people aged over 80 and 40% of over 50s in England are yet to receive a top-up jab of the Covid vaccine, according to the Department of Health.

Three million more people in England are being invited to have a booster shot next week – and Sajid Javid said he “strongly urges” everybody eligible for the jab to take up the offer.

The Health Secretary said: “We know immunity begins to wane after six months, especially for the elderly and the vulnerable, and booster vaccines will top-up their protection to keep people safe over the winter.

“I strongly urge everybody who is eligible for a Covid booster or flu vaccine to take up the offer as soon as you can.

“For those not yet eligible, please help your parents, grandparents or vulnerable loved ones get their jabs, as it could save their life.”

Javid also told anyone who is yet to have their first or second dose of the Covid vaccine, “it is not too late”.

“This truly is a national mission”, he added.

“If we all come together and play our part, we can get through this challenging winter, avoid a return to restrictions and enjoy Christmas”.

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ewloe
4 years ago

fait nuff, it’s well known. Vulnerable should take jab.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

Why should the most vulnerable get a treatment when there was never even a pretence of trialling the products on them (and the MHRA ready to state without investigation that they would have died anyway)? I know there is a statistical argument but it is built upon sand (or maybe air).

Nor should any opportunity be missed to mention the whistleblower story in BMJ

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

It has never been properly reported.

ewloe
4 years ago

>Why should the most vulnerable get a treatment

to keep them alive?

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

How’s the smell in the 77th Brigade cave?

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

They try to mask the awful pong using their False Persona aftershave.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Is that powerful enough to overcome the stench of government bullshit?

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

No, nothing can do that.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I think he/she’s just a sad troll

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Not all trolls are sad!

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

It lives under a bridge, fol de rol.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Smells of hand sanitiser?

JamesDrebin
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

And lubricant, for they doth be wankers.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Corporal ewloe doing a bit of Sunday overtime.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

Where’s Fon?

😉

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Ewloe in disguise?

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

With a <1% risk reduction?

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

There is an argument that people should have a choice but to have a choice you have to have informed consent. I don’t know who would choose to have these products if people were told the truth about them. We recall that last winter a lot of started to die after getting the jabs but before they purportedly became effective.

Mezzo18
Mezzo18
4 years ago

Because they focus the immune system on fighting off the threat, thereby leaving other flanks exposed. I had shingles after both of mine. I don’t intend to have another.

mishmash
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

Almost 90% of the most vulnerable dying “with covid” are double jabbed, so you can just fuck right off with that bullshit.

Occamsrazor
Occamsrazor
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

Given that Covid has no effect on the likelihood of dying on any one day, how long are we expected to keep all over 80s alive for? Until they’re 90? 100? Given that in the most deprived parts of the UK, the average age of male death is 70, and that the average age of death from Covid is over 80, how can we be expected to stop people dying from Covid in particular? How long can we keep people with numerous comorbidities alive for? It obviously comes as a shock to many, but old people and very ill people do die. And, shock horror, not usually of Covid….

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Occamsrazor

That argument was made by a well known journalist in the run up to lockdown 1, there was some initial discussion until it was condemned as heartless and cruel.

It’s been a perfectly position valid ever since, not least among medics of my acquaintance but strictly ‘off the record’.

Mezzo18
Mezzo18
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

OK to destroy the lives of children and young people though it seems!

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

But also an unnecessarily brutal way of putting it. If people dying in the normal course of things (because sadly everyone dies) are found to have a virus present that no one was looking for before what should it mean for policy?

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

If you scope the conference hosted by the HW, you will see Dr Peter Doshi PhD of BMJ fame scupper the jabs totally. If the vulnerable need treatment they should be given essential vitamins and minerals unless allergic as well as Ivermectin, with HCQ and Quercertin monoclonal antibody infusions as back ups although you might need to emigrate Ito the US for the latter.

In case you had not noticed, as Dr Doshi very inconveniently points out, the trials for these drugs – not vaccines (yawn) – proved no efficacy for preventing infections, death therefrom, transmission and there is as far as I can see/read no evidence they reduce symptoms from viral loads, hence why early treatment regimes worldwide appeared to have “worked” in this “setting” and have prevented hospitalisation which, after all is the headline Mantra from our corrupt and intellectually illiterate government.

wantok87
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

It’s not a treatment. Please read the evidence and illuminate us as to how you have reached your conclusions: watching the BBC doesn’t count!

ewloe
4 years ago

>Why should the most vulnerable get a treatment
to save them from dying?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

I’m the most vulnerable and I’m not dead despite being out and about as a key worker throughout Lockdown 1, Lockdown lite and Tiers. No mask, no vaccine.

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

That almost like saying that this appocalyptic virus isnt quite as bad as the government/.WHO/NHS etc have made out crazy idea You need to die quickly before somebody kills you

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  robwallser

Wanna work on your punctuation and syntax a bit there?

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

It’s no good they don’t teach Ai English grammar in bot school.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Down votes: snowflakes on DS, who knew?, as they say.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  robwallser

Certainly not down my way, not much of a first wave or second.
Met one chap whose dad had died ‘of covid’.
Turns out he was 80 and had dementia which nobody had told the son were contributory factors for Covid mortality.
(But I did? natch).

Occamsrazor
Occamsrazor
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Come on now. As I understand it, no one survives Covid. Literally no one. We’re all dead. As well as having long covid. And deep Covid. And I’m dead.

Superunknown
Superunknown
4 years ago
Reply to  Occamsrazor

I’ve died of it twice and so has my wife.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Superunknown

Someone got widespread attention in the popular press by claiming that three close relatives had died ‘of covid’ which is statistically a non starter.

Superunknown
Superunknown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Matt “crocodile tears” Hancock?

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

They might have been related to the New Jersey family for whom everyone shed tears until the New York Post published their photo. Morbidly obese, all three.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Superunknown

Luxury! We haven’t died once!

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Superunknown

Asymptomatically, I presume?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Occamsrazor

We are the offspring of survivors of such pandemics happening every few centuries or so since the dawn of man 1 or 2 million years ago.
Do the math depending on your place along the scary/not scary spectrum.

Virus were around long before we came along.
NB virus = singular and plural, cf sheep.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Math?

Math?

Surely not KV.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It’s an Americanism so I’m just being purist.

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

What a thoroughly nasty sentiment. Perhaps you could give us a list of people you think are worthy of saving, by age, occupation, PC quotient and time since last jab.

CoronanationStreet
CoronanationStreet
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

This is the same creature who suggested on the forums that people should be imprisoned simply for living life normally because doing so puts other people “at risk”. It/they probably work for Facebook as they are trying to get the world to live “life” through their new video game.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Probably taking time out from the Daily Mail least liked comments section.

Superunknown
Superunknown
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

Does it save them from dying? Do you have any evidence to support that bold claim?
If you believe that then you should definitely write to Santa Claus this year, one of his elves told me all the especially good boys and girls will get whatever they want this Christmas, but only if they get all their jabs, obey the government and smite the non compliant. Good boy.

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

oh if only if we had a vaccine or a pill or other tratments or realised that millions now have natural immunity and the only reason for the hysteria is that 150000 peole didnt REALLY die of covid some of them died at the same time of hearing the word Covid… not the same thing How many people will actually die of hysteria.So we are back to the whole of society ,a genearlly helthy society staying indoors and not going to school /work to protect the elderly some of who are also healthy.Have there not been discussions that this idea is genarlly not uicceesful .Yes there have so the only reason for threatening another lockdown is control which would also proove that the NHS has done nothing in the last 12 month to prevent exactly the same thing happeneing as last year and next year and every year after that .Fuck the NHS they should pull their collective finger out and do the job they are paid to do

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  robwallser

Even if we look at excess deaths (a much lower number), that still doesn’t take into account that this number fluctuates anyway – and there is never any official consideration of how many people might have died of flawed lockdown and treatment policies, and later from the “vaccines”.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

Yeah, that’s a very flawed argument, everyone dies, no exceptions its just a fact of life, besides the “vaccines” seem to have a nasty habit of actually killing people!

Don’t believe me, prove it ain’t so, the precautionary principle asserts it’s your obligation to do so and as you’re so concerned about saving people from unnecessary cause of death I know you’ll agree with me.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

Wrong. Get an education.

MickW
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

I believe most of them already have – how many do you think they’ll need to be fully protected (to the nearest dozen)

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

Depends on what you class as vulnerable?
I’m almost 73 and I certainly don’t put me or Mrs FP in that category, in fact I believe we are more healthy than the maskateers.

iane
iane
4 years ago

Oh you oldie, you: I’m a young 68 (tada!). Mind you, I fully concur!

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

Cheers.

karenovirus
4 years ago

I’m triple vulnerable, mid 60’s, comorbidities and recent months of chemo.
As X2 vaxxed I should have had notification about booster but have not. Not that I will take it as the reason for doing so originally no longer applies.

2 months ago NHS Vaccine Central urged me to get a third Primary jab (as distinct from booster) from my GP Practice who said it was not their job as they are only ‘commissioned’ to further jab the 75+.

Which might account partly for the low takeup Javid is worried about.

What a shower.

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Indeed!

AllieT
AllieT
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Too right! many GP practices have opted out of doing boosters.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

We are all vulnerable to this relentless attack by the Government, SAGE, and the others who are making money out of this scam.
Blackmail – take the jabs or be punished.

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Or become very rich from a recently awarded PPE contract which by George your not going to give up lightly .Put your masks back on and then buy some more .Serioisly have the actual population not realised from their own experiences that the propagande show is going down the ratings its over in real terms so take your ridiculous masks off!!!

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

It is fait nuff. Vulnerable should take all jabs for ever whether they want to or not. Prevent them from die or sickness. Stupid if don’t.

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Yes…. but then dont threaten people to take a vaccine after allowing the media to report stories of its lack of efficiency .You cant have two stories running side by side like this .One telling you buy it the other warning you not to waste your money

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

said in irony or parody?

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Weak parody. Sorry.

Mezzo18
Mezzo18
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

Most over 50s are not ‘vulnerable’. Another term, like ‘mental health’ (particularly when people say that they ‘suffer’ from it – how can you suffer from health?) that makes me want to hit someone!

Banjones
Banjones
4 years ago
Reply to  ewloe

Just like you’ve had a mastectomy, or perhaps a vasectomy, or had your haemorrhoids seen to, or had HIV/STI treatment recently? Why not share that information with the rest of us? It’d be interesting to know what YOUR medical decisions have been, since you think you have a right to tell others what THEY should have done to them.

Old Maid
4 years ago

Yeah, get your extra jabs so the hospitals ARE overrun and we WILL lockdown.

How about NO, Mr Jabbid.

BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago

The narrative is so strained right now. Every single pronouncement is just creaking with contradiction and the sound of moving goalposts.

You really have to be horizontal not to hear the collapse underway.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Who will be blamed most, the unboosted oldies and vulnerable or unvaxxed altogether?

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Dynamite question. They seem to be schtum about the unjabbed now. Perhaps because they know they aren’t going to convince us ever, whereas the oldies might be persuaded. Lots of people I know who are eligible for a booster aren’t going for theirs…

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

The unvaxxed, definitely – they really hate us!

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

How long before they broadcast Two Minutes Hate on Radio Four every morning instead of Thought for the Day?

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

I’ve heard they’re replacing Sailing By pre 00.45 shipping forecast..

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Amounts to the same thing these days if you’re a normal Christian.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

its not restricted to two minutes …

crisisgarden
4 years ago

Couldn’t agree more. 6 months ago I was carrying a sense of existential dread. Now it’s turning into comedy.

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

If only everbody now felt like that ,a mass moment of realisation .Im still seeing 18 year olds at bus stops masked up to the nines ten minutes befroe the bus comes standing next to little old ladies who dont give a shit .Somethings gome terribly wrong

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  robwallser

Says a lot more about the 18 year olds than the little old ladies.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  robwallser

Blame the teachers, I doubt if it’s peer pressure judging from the wild and carefree behaviour of students outside our 6th form College last year.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I have to give my own large secondary institution some credit – it was told by the local authority that because ‘covid’ ‘cases’ were ‘high’, we would need to take ‘additional measures’ including masking. The reaction from the school has been laid back to say the least with even the most zealous former Covidians displaying a surprisingly lax approach. I think the tide is turning and people are starting to get genuinely bored of it all.

gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago

Christmas is overated anyway!

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago
Reply to  gone_loopy

Yes,it spoils the winter.
Spending money you haven’t got, on people you don’t like, who don’t want anything anyway.

karenovirus
4 years ago

It spoils my watching of YouTube which is now overrun with Xmas adverts.
Thay have joined the list of ads to be clicked OFF asap alongside those preaching at me about diversity or brandishing their green credentials.

The algorithm might notice one day.

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago

Most of them sound like politicians

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  gone_loopy

I expect Javid would like to have all the Christian churches knocked down and mosques to be built in their place.
You get what you order.

gone_loopy
gone_loopy
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

What I meant was that i wont be blackmailed. If they want to cancel xmas, go for it. I’m not having another injection.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  gone_loopy

And I’m not cancelling Christmas either!

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  gone_loopy

Covid 19 is overated anyway !

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  gone_loopy

I agree – not a fan and usually work through it (which I have no problem with doing) – but that said I don’t like to see vindictive policitians trying to ban it for those who do like it.

Hopeless
4 years ago

Apart from the fact that this joker has zero to do with Christmas as something celebrated by those of us baptised Christians, I’m damned if I will be threatened or blackmailed by some Tory chiseller.

TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  Hopeless

I agree with your final point regarding threats but the idea that he has no connection to Christmas is lazy thinking.

You don’t have to be baptised Christian to value Christmas and Javid’s wife is a practicing Christian as are their children.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Xmas is celebrated worldwide as cultural schmaltz, take a look at Dubai airport or Tokyo as Yuletide approaches.

Star
4 years ago

Sajid Javid’s exhortation-cum-threat is consistent with the rulers already having decided to impose another lockdown.

Whether the order will be lifted when spring comes is another question. Some may view “track and trace” as a multibillion-pound scam or flop that is best forgotten about. That won’t be how the rulers see it. They’ll be back for more, sure as eggs are eggs – or as sure as the sheeple keep on carrying the microwave trackers marketed as “cleverphones”. (Did I get the lingo right?)

Meanwhile, there seems to be a news blackout on the story of the two children, Mohammed Habib and Harry Towers, who died suddenly in Newcastle-under-Lyme, the first of a heart attack, the second of a brain tumour. No news about this for 4 days. No quotes from family members. As far as I can tell, not even their ages have been published, just what school “years” they were in. This reeks of a D Notice or equivalent.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Their 2 school year groups indicate 14-16 years old.

MickW
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

May I ask how you found out about the causes of death? You are right, there seems to have been a complete news blackout. I understand the arguments for respecting the privacy of the families at this difficult time, but I also believe that there is an overriding public interest in getting to the truth about whether they were recently jabbed. The question is how can we find out?

SweetBabyCheeses
4 years ago
Reply to  MickW

If I were a journo I’d just message everyone on social media who has indicated that they have anything to do with the school. Someone will speak up. But then are they forbidden from writing about it?

MickW
4 years ago

I think the headmaster of the school has said that we shouldn’t speculate on social media, but we need to know if these deaths happened after the boys were vaxxed for reasons beyond …

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  MickW

Mohammed Habib died on 24 October, Harry Towers on 30 October.
Have inquests been opened yet?

Mohammed was buried on 26 October. No idea about any burial or cremation or funeral for Harry.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Handy that, what with Moslems requiring a speedy burial but that is routinely overridden if the Police consider the body to be ‘evidence’ or the Coroner wants to take a look.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Their former classmates will know whether the victims were jabbed or not.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  MickW

Brain tumour v unlikely linked – but the jab might have hastened its uncovering, I guess. I’ve read a paper on that having happened in adults.

MickW
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

Yes the jabs lower the immune system and underlying illnesses come to the fore. If the lad had cancer he would almost certainly have been jabbed as a vulnerable person.

It’s horrible to speculate like this, but as I said, we have a right to be told what happened, if only to potentially prevent more deaths of healthy young people and children.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

The clot shots also mess up blood sugar and Tumours LOVE sugar.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  MickW

Supposed causes of death were in the initial reports from the popular papers and locals that I posted here on the morning it first came to public attention 2 or 3 days ago.

My supposition was that school parents were not stupid, ie about guessing the more likely reasons.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Error

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Anyone fancy googling the headlines, I’ve gtg

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huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

According to a local newspaper, in the comments section beneath the article relaying the story a local lady stated that she knew both boys and they had been injected.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  MickW

The info about causes of death comes from the Church Militant, who write “A source close to the school told Church Militant Habib died of a heart attack while Towers suffered a fatal brain tumor.”

(FWIW, I don’t share that publication’s religious outlook.)

According to the Sun, “Harry and Mohammed’s fellow pupils and loved ones are being supported by Staffordshire Educational Psychology Service.” You can almost hear them tell people “We’d ask you not to post anything to social media”, perhaps even with threats on top when speaking to pupils.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

No sad mum and grieving siblings photos

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Look Santa in the eyes and tell him……..etc etc etc

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

I’m not so sure. I think they will just use the threat of lockdown as the sword of Damocles to force vaccination upon everything with a central nervous system.

No I'm Spartacus!
4 years ago

Yep, I’ll be doing my bit in not celebrating Christmas this year.

Instead of meeting up with my relatives and opening presents and having a Turkey dinner, we’ll be having a work meeting around a table that just happens to have a roast turkey with all the trimmings.

Call it a working lunch. We’ll also be exchanging things that look like presents, but it’s all to do with work and tasting port and wine for work purposes.

Just like we did last year!

karenovirus
4 years ago

I haven’t done Chistmas Dinner since my mum died so it won’t affect me much but I wish you the very best for your Working Christmas Lunch.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

Last year I had my Christmas as normal with my family, even though our area was completely “banned” from having ANY visitors on Christmas day! And I’ll do the same this year. They can do one, over and over.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

There was a report from last Xmss day (24 hours family mingling permitted) of a family getting together by meeting up at one of the motoway services with a publc footbridge linking each side.
The two parties deposited their respective gifts in the middle of the bridge before retiring as the others started to do likewise.

Give me strength.

Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Snap, Helena. Completely normal Christmas for my family.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago

love it – no zooming allowed!!!

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Utterly Pathetic. Bullying and Coercian are crimes according the Gov.UK website
Dont know what they mean by lockdown, didnt do it the first time or any other time and it was no problem.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Worth remembering that the regime didn’t blame previous lockdowns on resisters of “vaccination”. This time they will.

I only had to drive past a local school and observe the “Good times will come again” banners hung on the perimeter fence to realise that hate week will soon be upon us.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

They didn’t blame anyone, just their spurious ‘case’ numbers.
They just wanted to see if we would abandon Christmas Day when instructed.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

I think, what they are aiming to do, in incremental steps, is to ultimately ban christmas all together because their end game is to ban all organised religions and only have one world religion, prob worshiping the NWO or hailing the jabs or something equally daft

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Might work with the pathetic remnants of the Official Christian religion but they will have a harder job with the Catholics (especially newly arrived E. Europeans), Pentecostals (by which I mean with all due respect Black born again revivalists who are flourishing) and even more so if and when they try to tackle Islam.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

Smacks of Victim Blaming does it not?

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

No, you bastard, lockdown is your choice, not a necessity.

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

Downtick. Why is lockdown a necessity? Give me 77 good reasons.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Just been to my kids’ footy match. Not many parents there keen to keep doing what they’re told. National mission?! Should you choose to accept it…

RickH
4 years ago

We know immunity begins to wane after six months”

Lying piece of bald shite doing PR for the drug cartel.

There is no immunity from the get-go.

amanuensis
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

There might be some residual protection, but the net position (including vaccine related problems) is neutral at best, and is likely to be negative.

I also don’t approve of his use of ‘know’. If he was being honest he’d say:
You know we said that we know that the vaccines are safe and provide long lasting protection, and you used that to make an ‘informed’ decision — well turns out that we were wrong and they’re not as safe as we said and the protection is rather short lived. But we want you to take another dose anyway, as we are now sure that this time it is right thing to do. We’ll update you if we work out that it isn’t the case or if we find out that actually they’re not offering a net benefit. Well, perhaps we won’t tell you, because we don’t like pitchforks very much.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Sebastian Rushworth piece suggests what “immunity”, or possibly perceived benefit might be more appropriate, wanes within 2 months. His conclusion, jabs are waste of time effort and money and that is before you start to calculate the harms from deaths and adverse events.

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

Javid, you do not need to lock us down again!

sjonesy1999
sjonesy1999
4 years ago

Sajid Hancock is a disgrace.

psychedelia smith
4 years ago

In the words of the great Neil Oliver, this is not about what they say it’s about.

mikey980
mikey980
4 years ago

The Government do not have the resources to enforce a proper lockdown this Christmas. The police will not be patrolling every single street in the UK on Christmas Day to enforce the Rule of 6. We all know this. The Government knows it too. But it won’t stop this kind of nauseating behavioural pyschology being pushed out across the mainstream media. The best thing we can do is ignore it and carry on with whatever Christmas plans we have.

loopDloop
loopDloop
4 years ago
Reply to  mikey980

They won’t have to. The people will submit and self-enforce.

TreeHugger
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

A lot won’t. My Mum won’t be having any further jabs and will be joining us for Christmas regardless of the ‘rules’. Until recently she’s been following all the advice, but has now had enough. There are a growing percentage of the population who feel the same.

AllieT
AllieT
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

Yaaay for your Mum!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TreeHugger

That’s what’s got Javid &co so worried and reduced to veiled threats.

He clearly doesn’t understand
‘The Prisoner’s Dilemma’.

Superunknown
Superunknown
4 years ago
Reply to  mikey980

They never had the manpower to do it last time either, just laid it on thick with the propaganda to make people believe there would be consequences if they disobeyed.
I have a sneaking suspicion this is why they haven’t foisted the “vax passports” on us yet, the threat of civil disobedience can’t be stopped with a handful of plod.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Superunknown

Remember the days of publicity during Lockdown 1 when a woman was arrested on a railway platform for ‘lurking’ as though she intended to travel for no essential reason?

Dropped quietly without charge.

Superunknown
Superunknown
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Just like all the other cases where the victims had the common sense not to pay the freedom tax and instead go before a judge. To the best of my knowledge (especially in my neck of the woods) not one single conviction or ruling to pay. Certain police forces where told not to enforce any of the covid rules, only to advise, due to not having a charge code to detain prisoners under. The whole thing, just like the rest is a sham.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Superunknown

Nobody has even been before a judge. The CPS won’t touch any phoney corony lockdown cases.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Superunknown

you can speak for england in that regard – lucky you – but they have been foisted upon the populations of Scotland, Wales, and NI – what’s the betting that they will be considered to “work so well” in the celtic fringe that BJ will feel he has ‘no option’ but to bring them in to England as well.

Al T
4 years ago

One word Javid. ‘Irreversible’.

Ask your boss

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

I suspect the ‘booster’ programme has gone TU

All those drugs that have been bought and paid for and nobody wants them

Prof Pantsdown predicted 700 covid deaths in my community. Still waiting for our first

Oh well

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

See an earlier response Cyril, I’m due a reminder and instructions about an unwanted booster jab but have yet to receive them.

Complete TU of a programme as you say.

yohodi
yohodi
4 years ago

How is this working out for you?..
Gov.UK
Published
29 December 2015.
The government’s new coercive or controlling behaviour offence will mean victims who experience the type of behaviour that stops short of serious physical violence, but amounts to extreme psychological and emotional abuse, can bring their perpetrators to justice.
The offence will carry a maximum of 5 years’ imprisonment, a fine or both.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  yohodi

As the phrase first coined here at Lockdownsceptics last year by a lady reader

‘I am in an abusive relationship with my government”.

Smelly Melly
4 years ago

Christmas imprisonment it is then. Better get a yellow star armband whilst I’m at it, just in case we’re allowed out for 5 minutes.

Julian
4 years ago

And Javid was meant to be a big improvement on Hancock. And the PM is a closet lockdown sceptic and libertarian.

This is the big problem with accepting the vaccines have allowed us to exit from covid insanity – when it turns out they don’t actually work, you get further madness.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“And Javid was meant to be a big improvement on Hancock.”

I saw it for what it was. Were people really fooled?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Does Javid have any more medical expertise than Hancock?
Thought not.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

He’s clearly a lot more intelligent than Hancock though – which may not be a good thing, in the circumstances.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Well, he’s a big improvement…from the government’s point of view!

Teddy Edward
4 years ago

Piece of shit go back to your corner shop your broken flip flops await you!

hurleyp
4 years ago

What’s the point of a booster if the first pair of shots do so little?

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  hurleyp

Too many seem to be surviving – at least to date!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  hurleyp

Israel reported to be stocking up for jab #4 while ‘hoping’ that #3lasts longer than #1+2.
ie 6 months.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago

Pfizer is desperate to get rid of the national control group.

Superunknown
Superunknown
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

And the government are desperate to use up all those expensive useless jabs before their expiry date, they don’t want to poison anyone….. Oh wait

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

“If we all come together and play our part, we can get through this challenging winter, avoid a return to restrictions and enjoy Christmas”.

And if you don’t take the third jab, or have it booked, I will punish you. 10 days quarantine if you dare to leave the country and come back if you’re not jabbed 3 times!

When will Javid be offering the 5-11 year old kiddies £100 if they’ll take the jab. You can buy a lot of sweeties for £100!

Encierro
4 years ago

nostalgia:
Does anyone when we was told on a few weeks to save the NHS?
Seems so long ago.

Hopeless
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

My pots and pans have never been the same since.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

Three weeks to flatten the curve!

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  mishmash

Another bombshell inconvenient fact – over to DHSC/MHRA/JVCI – Lets hear from them that they either have fully evaluated both the original trial data from the US and are now going to withdraw it for these women ( sorry never ever going to resort to any other description ) or publish an unequivocal report explaining why not, with cited references.

Don’t forget to breathe.

JamesDrebin
4 years ago

My winter plan F:

  1. Hear you’re being threatened yet again with an imprisonment NPI originally marketed as a tool for slowing the spread of the virus… unless you take more experimental drugs to slow the spread of the virus
  2. Watch Alexander WEF-Waffler Johnson literally saying the injections DO NOT STOP TRANSMISSION
  3. Tell that cueball-headed, pound-shop “The Hood” tribute act to shove his illegal coercive threats right back up his Satan-worshipping pharmaceutical-payrolled arse
George L
4 years ago

Sajid Javid ex Goldman Sachs

Rishi Sunak ex Goldman Sachs

Richard Sharp ex Goldman Sachs

Mark Carney ex Goldman Sachs – ex Bank of England – Climate Zaar

The Vampire Squid Bank has its funnel in every orifice of power.. everywhere..

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/what-price-new-democracy-goldman-sachs-conquers-europe-6264091.html

George L
4 years ago
Reply to  George L

And I bet if you really did some digging you’d find GS in a few more orifices too..

Those out there who still cling to the notion that they live in a democracy are naive in the extreme..

MrTea
MrTea
4 years ago

Post jab millions of adverse events are reported around the world, many of them life changing and life shortening along with at least tens of thousands of deaths reported.
I’m going to say these vaccines aren’t safe.

With the need to be injected three times in the space of 10 months for them to work I’m going to say they clearly aren’t effective.

Garfy1967
Garfy1967
4 years ago

As much as I love this website for keeping me sane throughout the shitshow, this sort of reporting is simply trying to whip up a drama where none exists. DS has become as guilty as the MSM in this regard. Nowhere does Javid say that there is going to be another lockdown. He mentions avoiding restrictions, but even that appears to be a vague and idle threat that feels rather weak.There won’t be another lockdown, that much is certain. There is neither the poltical will or enthusiasm for it because the government know they’ve lost the public appetite and obedience for one. Apart from anything else, they simply cannot afford it and they dare not mess with Xmas again. If you want a weather vane to this, then just look at the hospitality industry. They get the first indications of any forthcoming restrictions way before anything is made public and I know for a fact that they are continuing to return to normality.
I sometimes wonder whether people on here want another lockdown so that they can be proved right. They are just different sides of the same coin as the bedwetters.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Garfy1967

I don’t think anyone here wants another lockdown to be proved right, though personally I feel that overreach by the govt is our only hope of waking up the sleeping masses

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Garfy1967

I want another lockdown, please bring it on

I want the bedwetters squeezed until the pips squeak

The bedwetters have ruined my life for the past 20 months; I want to drag them to the bottom of the deep end until ones of us dies (it won’t be me)

Lowe
4 years ago
Reply to  Garfy1967

But it is the SkyNews article which quotes him as saying: “If we all come together and play our part, we can get through this challenging winter, avoid a return to restrictions and enjoy Christmas.” What does “avoid a return to restrictions” mean if it doesn’t mean “avoid a return to restrictions”?

Superunknown
Superunknown
4 years ago
Reply to  Lowe

It’s called the rubber band technique, put the population under stress, release, then stretch again, release, keep on going until the rubber band can no longer be stretched, or it snaps.

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago
Reply to  Lowe

That’s just Garfy’s point. It’s vague and wishy-washy noise that doesn’t mean anything of note.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Lowe

and the CLEAR implication of his words is that if restrictions do have to be reintroduced (to my mind he is semaphoring that willy now) then you won’t be able to enjoy christmas, again.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  Milo

Edit – forgot the “d” – meant to write “wildly”

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Garfy1967

Because the first indication that the government intends to do something is when they say they don’t ‘want to’.
This gives the usual suspects the opportunity to clammer for that very thing.

This has been the pattern time and time again since before lockdown began including the introduction thereof.

AllieT
AllieT
4 years ago
Reply to  Garfy1967

Good post. Totally agree. If anything it is simply an attempt to push their horrible boosters because many more people are thinking for themselves this time and refusing them.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  AllieT

It’s a nudge – get boosted or we cancel christmas