Why Aren’t Journalists and Politicians More Sceptical About the ‘Net Zero’ Policy, Given that it’s Based on the Outputs of Unreliable Models?

We’re publishing a guest post on the eve of COP26 by journalist Chris Morrison that asks why journalists and politicians are so willing to accept at face value a scientific hypothesis that relies on the outputs of climate models, given that the track record of those models in predicting the future has so far proved to be very poor?

Delegates gathering in Glasgow for COP26 to try to stop the climate heating up face the rather inconvenient truth that the average temperature in Scotland hasn’t moved for about 15 years. Indeed IPCC members might wish to cast a new hockey temperature stick. With the handle now stretched along the horizontal, rather than the vertical, it can replace the previous climate mascot – long gone after some unseemly disputes over the surprise abolition of the medieval warming period and the subsequent mini ice age.

The delegates plan to stay for two weeks. One must hope they have packed warm clothing. For years, average November temperatures in Scotland have been dropping like a stone. It’s so bad that temperatures are falling to levels last seen in the ‘90s – the 1890s.

These trends are not confined to Scotland. Met Office figures show a similar pattern for the U.K. In fact, the 2010s were colder across the U.K. than the 2000s – a fall in average temperature from 9.3C to 9.17C, again according to official Met Office figures. On a global level, both highly accurate satellite measurements and surface measurements show that there has been no warming for seven years – and counting.

But of course the science that states humans are causing all or most global warming is ‘settled’. But of course it isn’t. The suggestion is an unproven scientific hypothesis based on the output of climate models that over a 30-year period have yet to record an accurate forecast among them. The vast majority greatly over-estimate global warming, yet are routinely presented as evidence for a hard green agenda that says the matter and science is beyond debate. The latest IPCC ‘code red’ report relies on yet more soaring model forecasts, that can stretch to 6C warming, while anyone commenting on the current position has for 20 years had to keep to just 1.1C warming since the early 1800s.

As they don’t say in the climate modelling business – ‘Garbage In, Gospel Out’.

Sceptics of the hypothesis are routinely traduced as ‘deniers’, although quite where the equivalence is between denying the proven fact of the Nazi holocaust and questioning fanciful climate model predictions is hard to see.

Of course the flatlining temperature should be well known to agenda-driven journalists, politicians, activists and academics, hence the recent move from global warming to Climate Crisis, then Climate Emergency and now Climate Breakdown. To back up these emotional claims, the emphasis has turned to ‘extreme’ weather – what we used to call bad weather. Heat, cold, rain or drought, everyone is a winner. Of course, cherry picking individual weather events and blaming it on long term changes in the climate is about as unscientific as you can get and not a scintilla of credible proof has yet been produced to back up the claims.

Almost daily, the headlines are filled with news from the Met Office’s gauge at Heathrow airport where record temperatures are to be found, helped by acres of concrete and black tarmac and the warm breezes from jet engines and numerous industrial aircon units. In 2019 the BBC highlighted one ‘record’ high temperature in one day in Antarctica and splashed it across all of its media outlets. The recent news that the South Pole had its coldest six month winter since records began was ignored. One-off event good, longer term trends bad.

If your correspondent thought that the world faced an existential threat from burning previous dead plant and animal matter, he would be first in the queue to super-glue his bits to the M25. He might even be tempted to fly half way across the world and lecture the adoring crowds from a pink boat parked in Oxford Circus, in the manner of Dame Emma ‘First Class’ Thompson. But to make that informed choice he would need to be aware of the recent work of the noted atmospheric scientist Professor William Happer, emeritus Professor of Physics at Princeton, who argued that the heating properties of CO2 fall as more is placed in the atmosphere. The work is complex and it talks of the ‘forcing’ ability of CO2 and water vapour (a much more plentiful and abundant greenhouse gas) becoming ‘saturated’ at current levels. Professor Happer also argues that the world is emerging from a period of denudation of C02 and needs more, particularly if the planet is to continue greening – up 14% in the last 30 years. Numerous scientists agree with this last point.

Happer is a renowned authority on radiation physics and his conclusions may be right, or they may be wrong. They certainly offer some explanation as to why C02 levels were 10 times higher when dinosaurs the size of London buses roamed the world 100 million years ago. The temperature was a little higher and life in all forms was abundant.

But Happer is ignored. In 2006 the BBC met in secret conclave and decided to stop covering sceptical climate science. In 2018 the Guardian published a letter signed by numerous green activists such as Caroline Lucas and George Monbiot stating they would no longer “lend their credibility” by debating climate science scepticism. Presumably they will not be lending their credibility to Professor Antonio Zichichi, another emeritus Professor of Physics, who published a letter in 2019, along with 70 Italian academics, warning about signing up to policies of uncritical reductions of CO2 with “the illusory pretence of governing the climate”.

Professor Zichichi was unperturbed by the Guardian no-shows and the undoubted blow to his credibility. He was too busy discovering nuclear antimatter.

We don’t know for certain if humans cause all or most global warming by burning fossil fuel. But it seems highly unlikely. From around 1945 to the late 1970s, there was a fall in global temperatures and the almost unanimous fear was global cooling. Then the temperature rose for 20 years leading to the ‘settled’ science of global warming. Now it is flatlining and possibly heading for cooling so Armageddon beckons with ‘extreme’ weather. Is CO2 to blame? Well, humans only contribute 3% of all CO2 entering the atmosphere. If we destroy our industrial lifestyle by cutting our modest contribution, can we be sure the other 97% will behave itself in a world that is naturally warming a little, as it has done countless times in the past? A small test recently occurred when the Covid pandemic cut human global CO2 emissions by 7% in 2020. It had no discernible effect on the overall rise, which seems likely to be a product of a gently warming natural climate.

On the basis of an uncertain hypothesis which has become an argument-free agenda for most members of the mainstream media, politicians, activists, state-sponsored scientists and subsidy-hungry industrialists, we are embarking on net zero with little idea, or seemingly care, of the disastrous effect it will have on human society across the globe. Almost every new technology to replace our existing cheap and reliable power has severe disadvantages and heavy costs. The warnings of green disaster have long been evident. In 2018 the long established Institution of Engineers and Shipbuilders in Scotland warned that the Scottish and U.K. Government green energy policy was likely to lead to severe electricity blackouts. Such events, it warned, “lead to death, severe societal and industrial disruption, civil disturbance and loss of production”.

As delegates in rapidly cooling Glasgow jack up the central heating, they might like to stop the constant virtue signalling and concentrate on events – and science – in the real world.

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Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

Very simple answer to the headline

Because they don’t want this to end

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Because it will make their friends (and ultimately themselves) very much richer and they think they might end up in history as the person who saved the world from thermal armageddon.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

It is just now a question of he who pays the piper.

loopDloop
loopDloop
4 years ago

‘Carbon’ and Covid are two sides of the same coin, the debased currency of a toxic brew of fear, ignorance and self-righteousness. The masses of humanity have lost their minds, driven insane by a hollowed out corporate media and corrupt governments. Now comes the end game, the culmination of millennia of behind-the-scenes planning. Take courage. Prepare yourselves. Be prepared to lose everything. It’s going to get dark. Stand firm. Read, read, read, read and pray. Don’t lose heart. It will be worth it. The ending of this story is already written.

Smelly Melly
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

I agree but prefer to view them as different cheeks on the same arse as to different sides of the same coin.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

Good one, permission to use widely. . .

Mark
4 years ago

Because it’s elite dogma, and it’s much more comfortable to be on the same side as the Official Truth than it is to be on the outside, for the kinds of people who mostly populate our media and politics these days. These are modern social taboos.

That’s why our media coverage is so warped and systematically slanted on all the elite dogma issues – covid panic, climate alarmism, “racism”, “homophobia” etc. It’s very uncomfortable to expose yourself to the kinds of attacks that follow if you step outside the cosy warmth of conformism on these issues, and it can be genuinely dangerous, both to your career and to your personal safety, and you can find yourself facing police and judicial harassment as well, in the more tightly enforced cases.

This is the society we have allowed to be built around us, over the past few decades.

IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Very nicely put sir.

Bill Hickling
Bill Hickling
4 years ago

What historians will definitely wonder about in future centuries is how deeply flawed logic, obscured by shrewd and unrelenting propaganda actually enabled a coalition of powerful special interests to convince nearly everyone in the world that CO2 from human activity was a dangerous planet-destroying toxin. It will be remembered as the greatest mass-delusion in the history of the world – that CO2, the life of plants, was considered for a time to be a deadly poison. Richard Lindzen, MIT

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  Bill Hickling

I was somewhat surprised when Naked Wines sent me an email telling me how proud they were to be going net zero and doing their part in reducing evil plant gas. My subscription was quickly cancelled. Companies that stupid don’t deserve to survive.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

You never hear any of them say “We’re proud to be shutting down in order to get our emissions down to zero!”

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

Likewise I always ‘click off’ YouTube ads that try to preach at me about climate change net zero rather than tell me about their product or service

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Once upon a time, advertising tried to sell you stuff by making the product appealing. Then they tried by associating the product with some worthy cause. Now, the adverts feel like propaganda films with a product endorsement as an afterthought.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

There is a rather revolting advert on YouTube from, I think, Twix snackbar, that spends two minutes promoting cross dressing/trans boys before a single freeze frame at the end using the word ‘Twix’.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

God knows how any of these firms can justify paying for it. Maybe they believe the shit themselves, or the ad men and women sell it to them. I suspect the ad men and women think of themselves as crusaders

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  A Heretic

I purchased from a woke, well-known Canadian retailer an expensive coat as a gift for my daughter in law. They couldn’t put it in a box with tissue because “these don’t conform to our impact policy. We are a sustainable company!,” came the smug explanation.
“Where is the coat made?,” I inquired.
” Either China or Asia,”the college graduate replied. “China,” he confirmed, having checked the label.
”Ah, China,” I smiled, “ the world’s biggest polluter.”
Talk about brains full of mush!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

China, with of 23 of the worlds most 25 pollution producing locations, not attending COP26. Wonder why?

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Bill Hickling

It will also baffle historians why we are a society allowed politicians such as Boris Johnson to use this climate change nonsense as a cover to destroy western civilisation and propel us all back to the preindustrial revolution days while more sensible countries such as China and Russia carry on as normal.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

Let’s see how bozo & chums enjoy a lifestyle consisting of digging ditches in the mud and shit in the wet and cold with wooden shovels while carnivorous rebels chuck rocks at rabbits for a living.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  Bill Hickling

R. Lindzen, Willie Soon, Will Happer, David Legates, Bob Carter (sadly deceased), Jim Steele, Anthony Watts, MacIntyre & Mckitrick, Peter Ridd, Paul Homewood & many others are heroes for truth as far as I’m concerned. Their treatment over the past decades was a a clear forerunner of the howling anti-scientific alarmism and lies that have played out during the covid con.
True science is dead. For now.

crisisgarden
4 years ago

Ha Ha! In my small provincial town, they are having a ‘Clang for Climate’ at 6pm today. Middle-class wooly minded liberal folk will stand (in the rain), reliving the good old Clap for Carers days but this time they’ll be aiming their rousing panclatter, not towards the carers they couldn’t see outside their house at the time, but towards the heavens themselves in a show of solidarity with the world’s most influential billionaires and against bad gases. Don’t be late! Bring a pan! Don’t do any critical thinking and get clanging!

TC
TC
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

It really is barely a rung above belief in witchcraft.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  TC

People who wish to live according to graphs presented to them by their masters.

Squire Western
Squire Western
4 years ago
Reply to  TC

Most witches these days go by the disguise of ‘computer modellers’.

8bit
8bit
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Eighteen months on, and in an interesting reversal, now you might possibly get the clap from the carers.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Reminds me of an Alien Invasion movie where all the groovy young things party in celebration on the rooves of skyscrapers believing they are here to save humanity from itself.
When the aliens launch their attack the young things are their first target.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Mars Attacks! And yes perfect summing up of their abject stupidity!

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

We are a society are regressing back to the days of uneducated tribes. People are engaging in pointless rituals – banging pots and pans to the heavens in the hope that the Powers that be ruin their lives and destroy their prosperity so that the weather improves slightly. It won’t be long before we are sacrificing the first born in ever household so that the Gods allow the world to warm by 1 degree C instead of 2 or reduced the R number below one or whatever the latest nonsense is that politicians are putting about as a means to control the woolly minded unthinking sheep.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  smithey

I can assure you my middle class northern town will be first to adopt said sacrifice rituals!

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

it worked out well for the Aztecs.

IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

Luvvit!

TheGreenAcres
4 years ago

The Senior Editors and Owners walk in the same circles and go to the same parties as the elites. They are all looking out for each other.

Sub-editors know that if they want to get on the next rung they must tow the line.

Journalists know that if they want the best commissions and promotion opportunities then they must tow the line.

True of every major newspaper and broadcaster in the US and the UK.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

“Sub-editors know that if they want to get on the next rung they must toe the line”.

In the same way that an academic wishing to study the sex life of the natterjack toad won’t get funding unless ‘they’ demonstrates that it is changing due to manmadeglobalwarming.

Catee
4 years ago

I grow most of my own veg and salad, I noticed in spring 2020 and even more so this year that I really struggled to get seeds germinating and to grow on… I had to ‘feed’ everything more than usual. Could be poor technique on my part but in discussion with family in the north east (I live in the southwest) and friends living near me they all found the same problem.
I suspect it was due to a fall in CO2 levels due to lockdowns etc but I’m not a scientist. I have also noticed far fewer bees this year and many I did see were dead ones.

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Contrary to your experience I have had an outstanding crop in N Cheshire.A surfeit of brassicas, with purple sprouting broccoli standing 6ft high (no sprouty bits yet though) and root crops straight and true (except the spuds of course!). Altogether better than the previous year and I put it down to a warm, dry Spring getting stuff off to a flyer.

A Sceptic
A Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Lucky you! A bit further north we had a cold spring with late frost which delayed everything by 3 weeks!

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

What is it with this post that has offended so many people?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Proper scientists in the field know that In ages past megafauna existed in conjunction with very high levels of CO2. It increases the biomass.

RedhotScot
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

You don’t need to be a scientist to work out that it has nothing whatsoever to do with atmospheric CO2.

Current levels of atmospheric CO2 are around 410ppm (parts per million).

Mankind’s proportion of that is around 4% = 16.4ppm

The reduction in mankind’s CO2 emissions were estimated to be (perhaps) somewhere between 9% and 14%.

Take the higher number just to be safe: 16.4ppm x 14% = 2.3ppm

In other words, assuming there was any measurable fall in mankind’s CO2 output (which isn’t measured, it’s modelled by computer) we went from 410ppm to 407.7ppm.

This entirely ignores natural emissions which more than likely made up the difference.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  RedhotScot

Yaas, strangely overall CO2 levels weren’t affected at all. A fair clue that ‘net zero’ will achieve nothing (other than further destroying western civilisation, impoverishing billions and likely killing millions). The Age of Insanity continues.

Superunknown
Superunknown
4 years ago

For the same reasons “Why Aren’t Journalists and Politicians More Sceptical About the ‘Covid’ Policy, Given that it’s Based on the Outputs of Unreliable Models?” perhaps?

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Superunknown

It doesn’t pay to be sceptical more like. They won’t understand the models anymore than the politicians do.

chipm49
chipm49
4 years ago

Since all models are wrong the scientist cannot obtain a “correct” one by excessive elaboration. On the contrary following William of Occam he should seek an economical description of natural phenomena. Just as the ability to devise simple but evocative models is the signature of the great scientist so overelaboration and overparameterization is often the mark of mediocrity. George Box

Julian
4 years ago

I’m not sure that most journalists are worthy of the title. They seem more like frustrated/failed politicians and activists or attention seekers. They all seem to have an agenda, or follow an agenda set by their bosses. Of course journalism has always been entwined with politics, but now that politics is somewhat monochrome, there is very little real opposition from political or journalistic opposition.

Politicians either believe in this nonsense or see it as a good way to get more power, spend other people’s money, feel important, or some combination of the two. They do like a “glorious” project. They used to start wars against other countries, now they wage war on their own people. I don’t think they care much either way. I once asked a

Manjushri
Manjushri
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Main stream journalists and their editors are ‘just following orders’ of the media owners, who are ‘just following orders’ from the elite trillionaires…..just my opinion.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

There are very few worthwhile journalists around these days. Proofreading seems to be a thing of the past from the lowliest local to the nationals they are awash with basic errors in English and in fact.
So long as the gist of the article agrees with the accepted truth it gets passed.

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Sadly many of the professional scientists I know (mainly children of friends) feel they are on a funding treadmill where there scientific work is equally shared with the daily grind of seeking income for the next project or the continuation of the current one.

Proveritate
4 years ago

Anyone who says ‘the science is settled’ and conspires to shut down the presentation of contrary evidence is the enemy of true science. They behave like this because they do not wish to be persuaded to change their view. The first (‘the science is settled’) is a religious dogmatism that justifies their propaganda, and the second (censorship, punishment, coercion) is a political act. The climate change bandwaggon (laughably called a ‘climate emergency’) has been the warm up routine for the Covidian cult, and showed how it was possible to brainwash people, instil fear, and manipulate messaging, and thus effect social change. Mike Hulme, founding director of the Tyndall Centre, and sometime Professor of Climate Change at the University of East Anglia (UEA), who generated climate scenarios the UK Government, the European Commission, UNEP, UNDP, WWF-International and the IPCC, rather let the cat out of the bag in aligning what he was up with climate change and his personal socialist agenda: The function of climate change I suggest, is not as a lower-case environmental phenomenon to be solved…It really is not about stopping climate chaos. Instead, we need to see how we can use the idea of climate change – the… Read more »

smithey
4 years ago
Reply to  Proveritate

In my view any expert who says “the science is settled” should be immediately removed from their post and never employed again. Science can never be settled, it is important that theories and constantly tested and new research is done. That is how science had progressed and new ideas are developed.

Manjushri
Manjushri
4 years ago

If you know anyone who still believes the myth that CO2 emissions cause climate change then please share this 8 minute video which concisely explains why that is not the case:
https://youtu.be/n-W76C0kkwc

Personally, I beleive that the CO2 = Bad propaganda is for 3 reasons:
1) To promote nuclear power.
2) To undermine developing countries industrial potential.
3) To provide the global banking elite with a trillion dollar cash cow for the administration of carbon credits.

martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
4 years ago

Climate change is a huge bullshit con! If it exists then it’s natural. Ask them how the ice age melted without the interference of humans and why was the world not 100% under water when it did melt. Also ask them what happens to water in a glass when the ice cubes melt?

IanC
4 years ago

Its usually empty by then in my house. 🙂

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago

. . . or the Mediaevil Warm Period, or the Little Ice Age, or the Roman Warm Period, or, well, most of the last 12000 years being likely warmer than now. I’m sure they’ll find a way of homogenising them all out of existance soon, creating the biggest hickey stick ever seen. After all, if the data don’t fit the hypothesis. . . change the data. Works every time. . .

Squire Western
Squire Western
4 years ago

I believe climate change is the work of immigrants. I have models which show that CO2 levels and temperature levels in the U.K. rise in parallel with numbers of overseas immigrants settling here. Instead of obstructing the highways, the extinction rebellion crusties should be agitating for ‘net zero’ immigrants.

Superunknown
Superunknown
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

There is a direct correlation between the disappearance of pirates and the rise in climate change, we need more pirates.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

400 a day coming in.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Pirates?

Manjushri
Manjushri
4 years ago

Unusually warm northerly winds with a smell of sulphur expected over most parts of the UK during the 6limate 6hange 6onference due to a week long excess of bullshit.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago

The IPCC models all, with one exception , contain a fudge factor. Its the ‘forcing’ referred to in the article , the assumption that CO2 increases will drive water vapour to reflect more heat back to the surface. The one exception is the Russian model. Only one model has got anywhere near forecasting outturn for 30 years, the Russian model. Climatiologists have been seeking real life evidence in the atmosphere for the ‘forcing’ for 30 years, they have been totally unsuccessful. Without this fudge none of their models would show anything alarming at all. In the real world there has been a slight increase in minimum temperatures, no change in maximums. If anything we have an outbreak of world shattering mildness. But of course none of this matters to the likes of the UN who want to transfer wealth from industrialised countries to developing ones ; social engineers who want to transfer wealth within societies; totalitarian politicians who want to use the scam to control; and above all the bankers, financiers and energy companies who want to make $trillions imposing disruption on economies. Cold not heat kills, and the poorest will get colder than most and increasingly die due to… Read more »

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

Excellent piece.

caravaggio57
4 years ago

Journalists and politicians have one thing in common. The vast majority of them are arts graduates, many of whom are arithmetically illiterate, a failing which they boast loudly about.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  caravaggio57

In the same way that policies about public health are no longer decided or implemented by medical professionals but by graduates in Public Health who know nothing about disease control.

Susan
4 years ago

Why Aren’t Journalists and Politicians More Skeptical…”
You need to ask?

agouza1
agouza1
4 years ago

Please could someone breakdown the 97% of naturally produced CO2 ref: Well, humans only contribute 3% of all CO2 entering the atmosphere.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Most of the arguments made in this excellent article have been made for many years in places like ‘wattsupwthat’ (sometimes referenced on this site).

Unfortunately it starts off in error by saying “delegates to COP26 face up to the rather inconvenient truth that the average temperature in Scotland hasn’t moved for about 15 years”.

Part of the problem is that they never face up to any inconvenient truth, they just ignore it. They ignore that the most beneficial eras of human history coincide with warm periods. That post Roman ‘Arthurian’ Britain was described in contemporary chronicles as a ‘wasteland’ not because of invading heathens but because of a decade or more of harsh winters caused by a volcano ( might have been a comet) as witnessed by other civilisations throughout the world.

32,000 greenies sitting around agreeing with each other, so many that some have been put up on otherwise idle cruise liners; sleepy Joe with his entourage of 85 cars, the hypocracies just go on and on.

Anyone remember the Copenhagen shindig? Many of them couldn’t get home for Xmas because a sudden freeze grounded the airport and closed the roads. Poetic justice.

Smelly Melly
4 years ago

Wasn’t it a couple of weeks ago that there was food shortage scaremoungering due to a shortage of CO2? That terrible gas that makes plants grow.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

In aeons gone by the existence of megafauna always coincided with high concentrations of CO2, it enhances the biomass.

soreron
soreron
4 years ago
Reply to  Smelly Melly

That CO2 is added to greenhouses to a level 3 times normal background levels to increase crop productivity seems to just pass them by.

TruthHurts2077
4 years ago

I wonder what the c*nts Johnson & Sturgeon have in store for us after the COP26 sh*tshow ends on 12th November…

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TruthHurts2077

Lockdown Scotland for sure as the untested, unmasked, unquarantined, ‘vax status undeclared’ great and the good return to their lives of idle luxury leaving the unprotected denizens of Scots hospitality to share The Covid with friends and family.

Yeah, I know it’s all b*llocks.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

Once Lockdown Sceptics starts going on about ‘Climate Change’ you know it’s a never-ending story. It is almost impossible to prove ‘Climate Change’ (whatever that means).

Covid and lockdowns was a big enough subject, and an on-going one at that. What next – a discussion on religion? Or abortion?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

It’s Daily Sceptic, not Lockdown Sceptics. And as was recently pointed out here above the line, there are clear parallels and connections between the various panics and ideological zealotries being used to manipulate us.

But it was always clear from the start that Young had no intention of restricting discussions to a particular topic or party line.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes, glad to see ‘Daily Sceptic’ living up to its new name & beginning to take on the other anti-scientific paradigm that’s driving our world to insanity and mass suicide (genocide?). . .

tom171uk
4 years ago

Never let an inconvenient truth spoil the narrative.

AN other lockdown sceptic
AN other lockdown sceptic
4 years ago

I call them the ‘Change the weather Cult’.

soreron
soreron
4 years ago

Money.

psychedelia smith
4 years ago

From global warming, to climate change, to (at one point) global weirding?!?! to the climate emergency to the climate breakdown, this is the classic Orwellian ‘global crisis’ that can never ever be identified and can never ever be solved but we must KEEP FIGHTING. Just like the war between Eurasia and Oceana. If anyone’s interested I did some bored maths the other day to demonstrate what the governments 3 trillion pound psychotic Net Zero ponzi scheme is going to cost us and what else you could buy with it. Three trillion pounds: 636 missions to Mars.  The cost of an Uber journey across our entire solar system and back.  6000 brand new hospitals with free parking.  42.6 million trained nurses.  230 million trained police officers.  3 million KLFs with 3 million furnaces. 12 million ambulances.  750 million ICU ventilators. 24.8 million affordable homes or social housing. Free university education for 60 million students. A cheap briefcase containing £100,000 cash for every household in the UK.  200 billion clean water tanks in Sudan. 500 billion plastic taps in Sierra Leone.  60 billion hand washing stations in Mozambique. 3 trillion pounds towards cleaning our oceans of plastic waste.  3 trillion pounds towards… Read more »

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Or perhaps 3 Trillion tax relief (i.e. not collecting it in the first place)

MTF
MTF
4 years ago

On a global level, both highly accurate satellite measurements and surface measurements show that there has been no warming for seven years – and counting.

There are many surface global temperature records. The attached summarises the most important.

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joffy69
joffy69
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

The important text is “data plotted with respect to a 1981-2010 baseline”. If you change the baseline you change the shape of the curve. You are picking a baseline that supports your assertion. The “seven years and counting” doesn’t pick a baseline, as the baseline always starts now.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  joffy69

I don’t see that at all – surely changing the baseline just moves the curve up or down – like changing between Centigrade and Kelvin. Perhaps you can give an example?

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Fraud.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago

If you think it is fraudulent to suggest that changing the baseline doesn’t change the shape of the curve, then please explain how it does change the shape.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

No, applying constant adjustments/ homogenisations to the data & infilling for long-gone reporting stations without making it clear that this is what has been done. . . is fraud.

Anthony_Blighe
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

You and I are in the minority here! After all the pseudo-science churned out by governments about COVID it is understandable that some now think that global warming is a hoax.

Governments around the world have encouraged many to believe that all science is manipulated by politicians and the media and should therefore not be trusted.

These are sad times for science.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Anthony_Blighe

I am very used to being in the minority on this site 🙂

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

. . . and I (we) am(are) very used to being the minority amongst the wider public/friends and family. Meaningless, of course, but gives you a sense of our frustrations, though on a rather smaller scale (see COP26).
Last chance to save the planet, eh?. Again.

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  Anthony_Blighe

Climate science has been manipulated and propagandised in the same way as covvy for approaching 30 years (hockey sticks anyone?). With any luck, debunking the antiscientific covibollox will lead to a more sceptical (and scientific) approach to climabollox. But I’m not holding my breath on either – for the same reasons.