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Moderate Radical
4 years ago

The L.G.B. Community Theme Song

(honestly)

https://youtu.be/ifs8crL5p4E

Mark
4 years ago

Tucker: This is the most deranged story in history Carlson sounds simply bemused at the sheer evil insanity of the Biden administration’s policies, and understandably so. Prior to the covid panic year one would have found it incredible that an elected government could or would engage in such national self harm. But they can and they are. Will they get away with it? Well, we already know the perpetrators of the coronapanic insanity were amazed at what it turned out they could get away with. It still seems that nothing short of a Republican victory in the mid-terms and the reelection of Trump to clean up the mess can now prevent what must surely otherwise be the breakup of the US, with the secession of a number of states. But make no mistake, the people and the lunatic ideologies devastating the US are basically the same as we would have here under a Labour regime (Corbynite or Blairite – both wings are woke fanatics). And much of the “Conservative” Party leadership are only held back from some of these kinds of idiocies (covid and climate alarmism aside, which Johnson is fully on board with) by the need to pretend that… Read more »

TruthHurts2077
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I would vote for Ron DeSantis in 2024, with Donald Trump as VP. Presuming Democrats don’t rig the election (again).

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  TruthHurts2077

The Republican Americans I talk to say it’s Trump’s nomination if he wants it.

And it would be only poetic justice to hand Trump back the presidency the big tech and big media leftists stole from him.

Plus, the reality is that Trump (rather surprisingly, I’ll admit) was actually a pretty good president, allowing for the constant treasonous, dishonest sabotage he faced from the Democrats and their fellow travellers in the media, the courts, and in the Federal bureaucracy.

TruthHurts2077
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I didn’t pay much attention to Trump during the first 3 years of his presidency, but I grew to like him last year, his press conferences and rallies were entertaining.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  TruthHurts2077

Why would tptb not rig the election again?

TruthHurts2077
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

No doubt they will try to. But if mass mail-in balloting and no voter ID is eradicated, it will be a Republican landslide. 2024 seems a LONG way off though.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  TruthHurts2077

Why on earth would you presume that the result hasn’t already been decided, bought and paid for?

TruthHurts2077
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

I quite agree with you. It’s all theatre at the end of the day. Giving people the illusion of choice.

Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  TruthHurts2077

Sadly Trump is a vaccine zealot

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

I don’t think so. He bought into the vaccines just as he did the idea of drugs like hydroxychloroquine early on, because he fell for the panic narrative (like just about every senior politician in the US and UK). and because he loves the idea of a tech solution to any problem.

But I think he’s settled into the mainstream resistance position, which is roughly no panic, no coerced facemasks or lockdowns, or “vaccine” mandates, but the “vaccines” are a useful tool against a genuine disease for those who choose to have them. Basically the same as people like deSantis and Rand Paul. The same as our host here, for that matter.

So not antivax, and not a “vaccine” zealot. Not perfect, from my perspective, and presumably from yours, but not outright evil either, unlike the alternatives. The best we are likely to get.

TruthHurts2077
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

Well he was booed at a conference/rally not so long ago, so he’ll probably tone down the praise for the ‘vaccines’ in future. Operation WarpSpeed was probably a bit rushed.

Moderate Radical
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The establishment is panicking over Carlson’s upcoming documentary about January 6th, with reactions such as this from the ghastly Cheney, a typical knee-jerk response that is both trite and asinine. Rather than wait for the programme/presentation, evaluate the claims and then provide a response, they seek to silence Carlson:

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2021/10/29/soon-to-lose-her-congressional-seat-liz-cheney-is-very-worried-about-january-6th-truth-surfacing-in-tucker-carlson-documentary/

Mark
4 years ago

Th neocons always hated Trump,and apart from a brief fling for some of them when they thought he could be used to promote their favourite activity of bombing foreigners, quickly settled in to backing the Democrats. I suppose Cheney just reverted to type.

karenovirus
4 years ago

I imagine that few people on either side of the American political chasm will have their opinion changed by a documentary but the information about the links between the FBI and antifa/blm (not capitalised thank you spellchecker) are interesting and support an argument being made here recently that the FBI, CIA, NSA etc. have all become the willing servants of the left.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

With so much insanity to draw on I thought Tucker was getting sidetracked toward the end. The little girl died not because the driver was an illegal migrant but because he was drunk.
Instead that led cleverly to pointy finger Biden telling his hosts ‘I don’t count drunk driving as a felony’.
I’m not sure about the US law on that but since when did it become about what sleepy Joe ‘counts’?

Another one to come back and haunt him.

Ed. Quick Google, it is a felony if the driver kills someone as in this case.

Despatches from HMP UK
Despatches from HMP UK
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

As Sheriff Grady Judd said: ‘Had he been in his home country last Saturday night like he should have been, our 5-year-old beautiful little girl would have been alive.’ That’s the point—Morales probably would have been DUI at some point anyway, but it should have been in his own country, not the US. Thus the 5 year old girl is dead because of barely enforced immigration laws.

karenovirus
4 years ago

If Hitler had not existed my parents would not have met, nor yours probably.
In the travel business it’s the reason why transport providers are not usually responsible for consequential loss. Same principle.
The Chinese had a belief that if you saved somebody’s life you made yourself responsible for that persons actions until they died.

Despatches from HMP UK
Despatches from HMP UK
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

karenovirus: ‘If Hitler had not existed my parents would not have met’ Are you saying Onkel Adi had his good points? karenovirus: ‘nor yours probably’ Oh, so very, very wrong. My parents would have met and married irrespective of the calamities of the 20th Century (although I would have a few extra relatives), my coming from generations of solid native stock. Note the map here, comparing the British Isles c.600 AD with Oxford University’s map plotting 17 distinct genetic groups found in British DNA, and how the genetic groups correlate with the tribal kingdoms; a millennium and a half later most of us are still the same people. Many of us are genuine ‘somewheres’ (to employ David Goodhart’s term (The Road to Somewhere: The Populist Revolt and the Future of Politics, C Hurst & Co, 2017)), with some of us tracing our roots back centuries, and some of us millennia. That should mean something; if citizenship means only landing at an airport or beach, then citizenship means nothing. We—some of us, at least—are descended from those who built our countries, who wrote our national stories in their sweat and blood, and we are increasingly unhappy that our legacy is being… Read more »

TruthHurts2077
4 years ago

Only 19% of young teenagers in England vaccinated”

1 in 5 is still too many, but it’s better than 4 in 5. I wonder how many develop Myocarditis.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  TruthHurts2077

Lead article in this mornings Local Live Online (mirror group news).

“Anti-Covid Passport brigade chased off by irate local”
Purports to tell how a group of a dozen placard waving people protesting about vaxxing school children dispersed after a local man shouted at them to “go away”.

That’s the story, which doesn’t match the headline; the rest of the much longer article is about how wonderful it is for parents to encourage their children to get vaxxed and how to help them to do it.
Clutching at straws?

In another set piece non news article LLO tells us of ‘5 new ways for you to keep others safe from covid’, quoting at length from someone representing Public Health England. Really, are PHE still with us?

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  TruthHurts2077

Or prion caused problems!

Mark
4 years ago

ROFL!

As a buffoon of truly global stature once tried to say:

Fool me once, shame on … shame on you…fool me..can’t get fooled again

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I suspect the fear that Tim Davie is really talking about is fear of nasty people with right-wing views being horrid.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Seems likely, though I haven’t met Davie. But the impression I get is that he represents what I referred to yesterday as “the weak treason of the “moderate right”.

As such he’s ideal to fill the role of ineffectually pretending to bring balance to the BBC while the “Conservatives” are in office, so that they don’t have to actually do anything that would prevent it being handed back in fine propagandist fettle to the next openly leftist regime to take office.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Well, I don’t look at much BBC content, but then you don’t need to look at much to understand the direction they are moving in. But from what I have seen they are more than ever just a social justice/political campaigning organisation/pressure group masquerading as a news/entertainment organisation. Of course there are plenty of people working in it whose primary motivation is news or entertainment, but they can’t/won’t/don’t want to go against the narrative, but from what I can see the people setting the tone are crusaders for a cause.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Could the man creature really say that without choking on his own derisive laughter?

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

“We need more Jonathan Sumptions” He started well, for all the good it did, but I was unimpressed by his attitude to vax passes.

“Double jabbed can still pass virus to those in same house” Is there any evidence at all the “vaccines” do anything other than kill & maim?

Yorkshire police poster warns against trick or treating this Halloween” That’s another American import that should have stayed in America.

“Inside Insulate Britain” What exactly is the point of these government propagandists, silly me answered my own question.

“At the BBC, we will banish fear from public debate” Except covid & AGW! Of course, ‘the science is in consensus

“Wokeness gone mad: Macbeth slapped with trigger warning as punters told to call Samaritans” There is one good thing about the vaccines, liberal lefties are the most likely to take them, some nights I pray the conspiracy theorists are right about depopulation, unfortunately I think it’s the one thing they’re wrong about.

“Facebook’s metaverse: a virtual safe space” Talking of conspiracy theory looks like transhumanism claims is true.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

S.Yorkshire Police Halloween poster.

Guardian doing its best to present all and everything as being about Covid.
All the content in that poster and what was said by the Silver Commander, no less, was standard stuff for Halloween/Bonfire night, nothing whatever to do with Covid (apart from sucking the fun out of life).

”Setting fires, throwing fireworks and making hoax calls . . .” will not be tolerated yadda yadda

The local paper usually runs stories about kids on the rough estate throwing fireworks at police cars.
Blimey, where I came from kids shot rockets from milk bottles at the police station.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

My God, I’ve changed. Two years ago, the idea of kids shooting rockets at police stations would have simply horrified me.
Now it doesn’t. This is awful.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I don’t think it was you who changed, Annie. Society changed (or perhaps better put, was changed) around you.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Sumption is a good egg, but like far too many people is unwilling to accept that vaxxports are Mandarin Empire style social credit score apps.

Once imposed, it will be too late to do anything about them, because objections will be punished harshly.

Mark
4 years ago

“Novara Media was cancelled by a culture it helped to create” – “Would there have been as noisy an outpouring of concern from the radical left as there was from conservatives and anti-identitarian leftists when Novara was fleetingly disappeared?” Brendan O’Neill claims that Novara Media have reaped what they have sown in the Spectator. “The truth is, Novara Media was cancelled by a culture that it helped to create. It temporarily fell victim to exactly what the radical left fuels and too often supports. For too long much of the left has backed no platforming and clampdowns on offensive speech. It has turned a blind eye to, or tacitly supported, the repulsive hounding of gender-critical feminists like Kathleen Stock. I’m sorry, but you cannot look the other way as people are pummelled for holding supposedly controversial views and then be shocked when the same pummelling comes for you.” O’Neil is correct, broadly, although it’s pretty obvious the brief suspension of Novara was an error, swiftly corrected. This was a long, long way from getting “the same pummelling” as is routinely handed out to conservatives and traditionalists by the woke leftist big corporations and by the now thoroughly woke UK police. Far from what Novara got, Trump was handed… Read more »

OliveTrees
4 years ago

Just wear a mask? 🙂

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

While not in favour of trick or treat it does not affect me as I live on the third floor and disabled my intercom some years ago.
To what extent are trick or treat events ‘organised’ other than a few parents traipsing local streets with their children in tow?

Organised bonfire nights are pretty crappy, can’t get near the fire, iffy overpriced food, lucky to be allowed to wave a sparkler.
Give me a group of mates with a few tinnies, own fire, own food, own fireworks in someone’s back garden any day thank you.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  OliveTrees

Why are the police trying to prohibit lawful activities, while facilitating eco-terrorists?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

That’s their job, nowadays.

Preventing real crime is so C19th. The task of a modern police is about building back better, for the greater good.

Anti_socialist
4 years ago

Health chiefs cut gap for Covid booster vaccines to as little as FOUR months for vulnerable immunocompromised patients
Soon be 3 months. What is it Albert Einstein said about repeating the same action ?

Covid the gift that keeps on giving to big pharma!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

I got directed by the ‘NHS’*, undated letter, to get my 3rd primary vaccine (as distinct from a booster) a month ago but with no meaningful indication as to how since my GP practice has only been ‘commissioned’ to do over 75s.

*A pale grey NHS logo was the only indication that this missive was not a forgery, no idea what part of the gargantuan NHS it originated from, no contact details, no signature.
I expect it was rushed out after bozo promised to ‘bump up the communication’ or somesuch recently in response to disappointing booster takeup figures.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

It wasn’t Einstein. It was probably Narcotics Anonymous, who know what they’re talking about.

kate
kate
4 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7gO1byQozk&ab_channel=CristianTerhes
MEPs Supporting the rights of workers against the mandatory Digital Certificate – press conference
PLEASE WATCH from minute 15 to 15.45.
https://youtu.be/t7gO1byQozk

Those brave MEPs finally forced the Commission’s hand & with the agreement of the vaccine makers, there the contracts signed off by Von der Leyen are now revealed to you, you who paid for the vaccines.

I think this is THE most shocking demonstration of how far off course our “democracies” have become (we’ve not even seen a redacted contract).

Some MEPs sound outraged enough to join with the people & take your democracy back.

Push the Commission out of their oh too comfy seats.

Mike

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Umm, just one small point, we’re not in the EU!

David.in.Italy
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Good point, except….?
According to this article yesterday in the Daily Torygraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/travel/advice/how-show-proof-covid-vaccine-vaccination-certificate-holiday-abroad/
“From Friday, October 29[2021], the NHS pass will be accepted in every all EU countries. The UK’s application took three months for its approval from the European Commission”…

“The app requires access to your NHS profile and number, which records whether you have received a coronavirus vaccination or not. 
The vaccination record held by the NHS will be shown inside the app”…
[in other words it contacts an external database, AMZN cloud?]

[there’s also an International Air Travel Association app]
“The IATA app will also be able to access (private) test results for travel and will link the available data to published entry requirements relating to intended travel”

[The whole DT article does not mention how potentially useless it could be to keep a massive database record of a failed vaccine campaign, should the UKHSA “negative efficacy” of some NPIs be proved accurate]

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

The full version is worth watching.
That Romanian MEP makes very good points but he seems to be howling in the wind.

Open and transparent EU vaccine contract. LOL

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Phil Shannon
4 years ago

ITEM: “Spain is reimbursing residents who were fined for violating Covid lockdown rules” – Around 1.1 million fines were issued to thousands of people who violated stay-at-home orders that began in the spring of 2020, reports Insider. And who will be coming to the aid of Australians, where in just one state alone, Queensland, the State Penalties Enforcement Register chases up 3,046 unpaid Covid-breaching fines accrued by 2,755 individuals and businesses worth a total of AUD$5.2 million. $1 million of this is owed by some 18% of defaulters who the authorities are taking a heavy bat to by garnishing bank accounts or wages, or suspending driver licences until the fine is paid. In addition, Queensland Health is calling in private debt collectors (a real savory lot at the best of times) to chase up $5.7 million from 2,045 significantly overdue invoices (10% of the total) for hotel quarantine [quick calculation – mandatory hotel quarantine has thus been worth some $57 million to the state’s Treasury coffers – as Arthur Daley might say, ‘a nice little earner’]. Every day, there is some fresh Covid outrage Downunder, not all of them due to the Evil Gnome who runs (ruins) Melbourne, to get me… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Have any of the ‘offenders’ been successfully prosecuted or do the authorities rely on most people just paying up, with or without debt collector coercion? (Just like our own BBC).
In England not a single case has even got to Court because the, usually unloved, Crown Prosecution Service does not think it can win such trials.

I recently saw a video from Victoria in which three members of Parliaments upper chamber, apparently expelled because of covid/lockdown(?), are holding Sessions in a pub while comparing Victorias current legislature to Englands Rump Parliament which sat after Cromwell expelled most of its members.

In another an Opposition MP makes a forthright attack on Dictator Dan for rushing through dictatorial powers in two days when the MP has proof that it’s been in discussion since March (the Speaker shut him down).

Phil Shannon
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

As far as I know, no Covid miscreant has been taken to court. The authorities are relying on most people, eventually, just paying up, or compulsorily garnisheeing the amount owed from wages or bank accounts, etc. I think they know they would not fare too well if they hauled people in front of a judge because the legality of the fines is less than solid. There were a handful of earlier cases in Victoria, I think, where some fines were threatened to be taken to court by some savvy lawyers and the prosecutors decided to drop the fines to avoid being embarrassed in court. But this movement has never caught on and most defaulters just want it all to go away by paying up.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Can they steal salaries without a Courts say so?

JohnK
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

In simple terms, “fixed penalty notices” were a con; those who paid, lost cash.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Very depressing, and hard to see a way around it. In the end, only political pressure can force them to relent, and that just doesn’t seem to be there in Australia.

olympian
olympian
4 years ago

This is my third post in 18 months. Like the other two it must begin with an apology because it’s fairly off topic. Perhaps DS could provide a space for contributors to raise their own concerns/topics. Tomorrow my mother is having her booster jab and a flu jab. She’s 78, in perfect health, takes no medications, never has. I assume the booster will be pfizer. Her first two jabs were pfizer. Serious question; Is this the best thing for her? Has she sat on a roller coaster that she can’t get off? We talk every day and she’s open minded. She agrees with all my well thought out arguments. I push data in her face all the time and she sees it; the rise in cases after vaccination rollouts, the stats on vaccinated/unvaccinated case numbers, hospitalisations and deaths but she can never get past the idea that our governments/PTB would ever act against their citizens. Everyone in my family and all my friends have been vaccinated. I feel that it is unfair to present the vaccinated with evidence that they have taken a dangerous/toxic, possibly deadly drug. To be honest I’m not sure what I imagine or believe the agenda… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  olympian

Entirely on topic olympian. DS does print individual concerns as separate articles but its unclear where to find links to them later. Same goes for the ongoing ‘Postcard from . . .’ series. Perhaps email the editorial team. Only a few here are qualified to advise your mother on what might be best for her; most readers are against Covid vaccines on principle, as am I although I took the first two for my own reasons. Obviously everyone here is against compulsion, many genuinely think they know the vaccines to be unsafe. I don’t ‘know’ one way or another but I do know that the authorities lie when they claim there are no long term consequences. How can they know when there has been no long term to measure? The vaccines have still not completed their clinical trials and so are still under emergency license (which was one of the agenda for extending lockdown) and it seems there are a further 300 (three hundred) versions of them coming down the track. It’s become commonplace to note how many of yesterday’s ‘conspiracy theories’ have become todays reality. It’s why Babylon Bee has such a difficult time trying to be a satirical… Read more »

Victoria
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Great post

I do know that the authorities lie when they claim there are no long term consequences.

How can they know when there has been no long term to measure?

👍

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  olympian

Well if you’ve discussed this at length with your mother and shown her the data then, as frustrating as it is, she’s an adult making her own decision, and probably making more of an informed choice than most if you’ve been sharing the evidence and stats with her. I feel your pain as my husband also had the jabs, not because he’s at high risk at all, but because he fully bought into the propaganda and fear porn. He actually told me that I, and anyone else who declined the injection, is “stupid”! 🙁 It’s sad to see how brainwashed our loved ones are, it really is. But if somebody’s of sound mind then you really do just have to sit back and think “their body their choice” to be honest, and let them get on with it. As for the agenda, I tend to agree. Control, digital ID, social-credit system, surveillance…I think this seems to be looking increasingly likely as the end goal. We have the “Vax Pass” here in the Netherlands but I won’t submit, however my world has shrank as a result. You scan groceries not people! 🙁

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

The “do whatever they’re told and like it” brigade believe that those of us who think for ourselves are “stupid”. They also think this makes us gullible and the kind of people who think whatever we think because we read it somewhere on the internet. Even those who can spell the word “projection” and perhaps even write it using joined-up letters think this.

It never fails to amaze me how the moron’s mind can think up lots of reasons for believing what it believes, sometimes on the spot and using real creativity. Sheeple wear seriously heavy-duty armour against wising themselves up.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Yes you’re right. And the irony is not lost on me that it is they who are the gullible ones. I’d put money on us lot being better read and more clued up as a result, due to our critical thinking capacity and the fact we did not leave our common sense back in 2019, than they will ever be. But I guess when you class yourself as “informed” because you watch the BBC news every day then that was always going to be the case. Propagandized, deluded fools!

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  olympian

I know this won’t be received well by some, especially those patriots who buy into queen & country & war heroes etc. But the big problem with 30’s/40’s/50’s generation, is their absolute trust in government, it doesn’t cross their minds the system is against them, their parents bought into the glory of war (until they witnessed the reality of war) which sent them to their deaths in the millions. My own elderly parents in law just swallow anything the government tell them, they believe civil servants are there to serve, despite evidence to the contrary. As for your mum’s health that’s a personal decision I wouldn’t even attempt to influence, but what I would say is don’t listen to doom mungers claiming this is about depopulation, I sincerely don’t believe that’s the case, it’s not because I think government intentions are in our best interests, or they are benign, it’s just that the evidence doesn’t support. They could never get away with it. Covid is a real disease, it can affect the elderly & immune compromised severely & kill the unfortunate, but even for the elderly covid19 has a 97.5% survival rate. My personal view is covid is just a… Read more »

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karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Re your 1st paragraph. My dad was WW2 RN Chief Petty Officer (Murmansk, Atlantic, the Med) and spent most of his civilian life in the Civil Service ending up at a similar level in the Lord Chancellors Department 1980’s. He took a very dim view of the way the Civil Service was run, entirely for the benefit of senior management. He liked to tell stories about Appeal Court judges sometimes taking them down a peg or two, the only people who could. Mum trained as a State Registered Nurse in London during that same war and was delighted to be nationalised by the Labour government she voted for. As the years rolled by her opinion changed, she concluded that for four decades the NHS worked only because of the goodwill of its staff and that increasingly non-medical management took advantage of it, as they still do. They got her in the end by giving her hospital disease when she went in for a hip operation. Had they still been around during lockdown 1 they would have been complete conformists especially as, being out and about as a key worker, I would have done their shopping for them. It would have… Read more »

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  Anti_socialist

Why on earth do you think the rulers could not get away with it when they have had such success in creating the kind of population that you describe? Incidentally, “evidence” has shown that will to resist may increase when bodyweight falls on its way to 80% of what it was, but then it withers away as bodyweight falls further. By that time, much of the British population won’t be able to see each other because of all the foam they’ve spat out over their faces as they blame non-whites and the French for disease and shortages.

Also if those under 40 or 50 are full of independence of thought, why do they obediently carry microwave trackers 24/7 and enjoy “Game of Thrones” so much? They’re just as ovine as their parents, if not more so. Advertisers get taught that the idea of young people being rebellious is cobblers. The only people they’re rebellious against is their parents. Other than that, they’re as gullible as shee-yit, and indeed more gullible than their parents, especially if you tell them that a course of action or a pair of plimsolls rebranded under some other name is cool.

A Sceptic
A Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  olympian

My Mum is 81, asthmatic and had the booster 3 weeks ago. She has been very ill since. With hindsight she was poorly after the last one too but did not recognise the connection. Same symptoms but far worse this time. She has now heard of 3 other people locally who she is slightly connected to also being very ill and is now telling everyone not to get the booster. I have been cautious about telling her what I think about the vaccines but she trusted the government/NHS. Not any more. The doctor we saw yesterday blamed her deterioration on “the change in the weather”. Honestly, you’d laugh if it wasn’t so serious. She now thinks they are trying to kill her off. I really don’t know anymore, but my suspicion is that a lot of what is happening is down to (a) arrogance of clever people in science (b) greed of financially savvy people who realise they can make a lot of money off the backs of the arrogant and (c) rank incompetence and stupidity by regulatory and government operators who do not recognise that the arrogant and greedy people have their own agendas. Your mother is an adult… Read more »

Anti_socialist
4 years ago
Reply to  A Sceptic

d) They all have their own interests in mind, most just simply do what they’re told to keep their job & pay their mortgage, i.e. Camp guards, just following orders!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  A Sceptic

When I asked my Chemo Consultant whether I should take the vaccine before months of Chemo treatment rather than be compelled to do so at some point during that treatment he replied

“It is the governments advice that everyone takes the vaccine and mine is that it would be best to do so before treatment begins. But at the end of the day it is your decision.”
In other words, if you’re going to do it, get it over and done with. Not an explicit validation of the vaccine itself.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Reading between the lines, he was saying that to combine the monkey gunk with your chemo would be dangerous, and you’d be better off without it.
He won’t risk his career by saying so openly. But he’s squaring it with his conscience (?) by quoting government advice rather than pretending it’s his own opinion.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

That was my conclusion; a remarkably honest answer I thought.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

he’s squaring it with his conscience

What his filthy profession have been doing for two years won’t have passed him by. More likely is that he sees her as a coffin-dodger he wants bumped off, ergo he wants her vaxxed to the max, but because it pleases him (the term “conscience” is not applicable to medics) he wants the understanding to be that her getting vaxxed would be her own fault and not his.

Why do people have time for medics? They’re “100 lies a day” types, the lot of them, a right bunch of estate agents even if they consider themselves a cut above.

Don’t ever forget what this “professor of dementia studies” said. (OK, she is a nursing professor – whatever next? – rather than one of the medically frocked and anointed, but that’s immaterial to the point.)

Voltaire said that if the Devil were to enrol at a university, he’d do best to avoid the medical faculty, where he’d be completely outplayed. He said he’d feel more at home in the theology faculty.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  olympian

Others will have far better answers, but I’ll just say this: We are the wolf. And one day we will thrn round and devour them. Sharpen your teeth, be watchful, be ready.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  olympian

The only benign explaination I can attach to the last 20 months is a corruption of a russian proverb I read in a comment on another site; The government[s] have gotten hold of a wolf and they can’t ever let go because in doing so it would turn around and devour them.”

You can grab a wolf by the ears anytime, built once you’ve done so you can never let go.

The same basically as our own aphorism about taking a tiger by the tail.

A degree of detachment and even of fatalism can be useful I think. Especially when it comes to those huge events which we cannot in practice influence significantly, or when it comes to those in our lives for whom we feel responsible but really aren’t, such as elderly parents or grown up children.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

They had plenty of opportunities to ‘jump off the wolf’, or tiger, and claim Victory over Covid especially last year but they failed to do so either out of being drunk on power or in thrall to SAGE. Now, of course, it is almost impossible.

Spotting this opportunity the WEF, Gates etc. aided and abetted by the Gretas of this world unfurled their plans probably sooner than they thought possible.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

We have to hope they find they’ve caught a Tartar.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  olympian

The plan is depopulation. Yes, they want to “change life”, but across-the-board brutalisation, dehumanisation, idiotisation, and mass slaughter are part of that. Surely your reason for not agreeing isn’t that you think the rulers wouldn’t? The question isn’t whether they would or wouldn’t. They certainly would. They have no ethics whatsoever regarding those they rule, whom they view as subhuman. The question is whether or not it’s in their interests, or more exactly whether or not they consider it to be in their interests. And from their point of view there is massive structural over-employment. Look at the white collar sector. Why haven’t computers, i.e. electronic filing, communications, and analysis, led to any reduction in the labour bill? From the rulers’ point of view, they have been throwing money in the bin and that’s got to stop. Then there is the second question which is can they? The answer has got to be yes. They twist the minds of the sheeple around their little fingers. Look how many cretins carry microwave trackers and can’t stop picking them even when they’re walking along the street or going to the toilet. That was never going to end well. Did you know the… Read more »

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

I’ve sometimes wondered what happened to the people who used to work in the typing pool, copy-typists, filing clerks and those who filled the ranks of wages departments.
Managers who used to have one or more PAs now do most of that work themselves on their devices and share one PA between them, more for show than substance.

The Russian population is falling because of their failure to reproduce and because nobody wants to migrate there; the same will soon become apparent in China as the chickens of the ‘one child’ policy come home to roost. It also why the Anglo/North European derived population of the USA is close to becoming a minority within that country, as discussed by reader Mark above.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  olympian

I’m assuming a sceptical take on anything is on-topic in the “General Discussion” forum here.

Mogwai
4 years ago

That’s a great and very useful article from Paul Alexander once again. Already shared it in “enemy territory”! lol The opposition will try and pull it apart but you can’t argue with Paul’s credentials and experience so I don’t think any viable counter-argument will be forthcoming in a hurry. I recognise some of the studies as shared by Swedenborg and others here.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

What did I say?! lol Dickhead trolls slating the article just because the Brownstone Institute was started by Jeffrey Tucker, who is apparently an anarco-capitalist, whatever the hell that is. Of course none of the opposition who scoff will even click on an article if it contradicts their belief system, they will always find a way to pull a paper/article to shreds. Pathetic really….What does the founder of the website have to do with the scientific studies linked therein? Sad, deluded b’stards!

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

anarco-capitalist, whatever the hell that is

Anarcho-capitalists are basically genuine anarchists who respect property rights, and as a result tend to identify themselves, or be identified, as on the political right, though that’s questionable imo. They do, at least in US terms, tend to be socially conservative. As you’ve found out, they are especially hated by leftist state-worshippers.

Most people who claim to be anarchists are actually leftist government worshippers play acting as anarchist because they think it sounds cool and are too thick to understand that you can’t be an anarchist and also expect nanny state to stop the nasty men saying and doing things you don’t like.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Thanks Mark. That explains why all the Lefties pounced on the item, pitch forks at the ready. Still demonstrates the lunacy of their mentality and how deeply indoctrinated they are though, as Paul Alexander wrote the article, which is just a collection of studies and articles. The political leanings of whoever founded the site should have nothing to do with it! I hear the sound of many barrels being scraped….Well, the eejits can only ignore or suppress the ever-mounting raft of evidence and truth for so long. They’re just denialists, the lot of them, with not 2 critical thinking neurons among them.

karenovirus
4 years ago

Catastrophic Track’n’Trace didn’t work.
Public Accounts Committee Interim Report,
Spiked.

It didn’t work for all the reasons we told told them why it wouldn’t work as they took forever to get get it up and running. Those reasons being listed again by Spiked.
Utterly doomed to fail once between 30-50 points of Covid entry to the UK had been identified.

They subsequently seconded some t&t operatives to track down by phone recent arrivals from abroad to asses their quarantine compliance.
I asked how they could tell if they were being lied to.
“Well it’s pretty obvious if you can hear road traffic in the background (fair enough) but usually it’s their tone of voice that gives them away so I can report it in my log”.
Yeah, see that standing up in Court as basic wage burger flipper Bill gives his ‘evidence’.

Only this morning Local Live Online (mirror group news) had as one of its ‘5 ways to protect other people from Covid’
“Take regular self-tests (explains where to get them) make sure to report the results whether they are are positive, negative or void. This will help to keep track of the Pandemic . . .” Jesus wept.

Star
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

Can I stop water getting through the roof by checking the floor for puddles every week?

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Only if you make sure that the puddles keep their distance!

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Star

Good analogy.

Annie
4 years ago

Much rejoicing in Pfizrael:

Israel is making preparations to ensure it has sufficient vaccine supply in case a fourth round of Covid-19 shots is needed, the country’s top health official said on Sunday. 
“We don’t know when it will happen; I hope very much that it won’t be within six months, like this time, and that the third dose will last for longer,” Health Ministry Director General Nachman Ash said in an interview with Radio 103FM.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-09-12/israel-preparing-for-possible-fourth-covid-vaccine-dose

He very much hopes.
Within six months.
Think on.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And every six months thereafter.
Forever and Ever as we used to say in Sunday school.

TC
TC
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

If or when the Israelis wake up to this pantomime, I suspect it might be explosive.
I live in hope.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And I always used to believe that the Jews were a particularly intelligent racial group. Still, I guess I was ignoring all that in-breeding!

TC
TC
4 years ago

In the TCW article, does Robert Malone really think Pfizer et al were not aware of the propensity of the spikeprotein as “a biological agent” causing the most serious effects of covid?
Did not The Salk Institute report of the spikeprotein’s role in attacking blood vessels, lungs and heart back in Ocober (IIRC) just when the “vaccines” were rolling off the production line?
My worry might be that they did know but for how long?
Just saying….

Victoria
4 years ago

To all my English friends I’ve been on almost every protest in LONDON now we need you!!

https://twitter.com/RWTaylors/status/1454094876774129665

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Gregoryno6
4 years ago

Random historical crudity.
Why is Daniel Andrews like Prince Albert?
They both spent a lot of years fucking Victoria.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Yes, BUT Victoria loved Albert!

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

“Only 19% of UK teenagers vaccinated”
There’s some evidence that Australian teens are showing vax resistance too. A group called VaxtheNation got rolling in September, promising big concerts for vaxxed up young folk. A concert tour was scheduled for November… and then, believe it or not, ‘rescheduled’ to November 2022. The posters went up, and then the posters came down.
The Twitter account has 655 followers which doesn’t exactly describe a tsunami of interest.

Victoria
4 years ago
For the first time in history, the drop in effectiveness of a medicine is blamed on those who don't take it.

https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid/status/1454124166844649477