Unvaccinated Set to Be Banned from Berlin Christmas Market

German officials have given the green light to prohibit the unvaccinated public from attending the Berlin Christmas Market. Those looking to gain access will have to provide proof that they are double-jabbed or have recovered from Covid, with the only exception being children under the age of 12, who have not been offered the vaccination. Although venues can set their own rules, thereby permitting the unvaccinated to enter (albeit with a negative Covid test), a number of Berlin Christmas Markets have already pledged to bar the unvaccinated from the premises. The MailOnline has the story.

Under a strict ‘2G’ model, those over the age of 12 must be double vaccinated or recovered from the virus and would be denied entry even if they have a negative Covid test, reports German newspaper Tagesspiegel.  

But organisers of the markets, which return on November 22nd would be able to opt for a less strict ‘3G’ model which would allow unvaccinated people to attend – but only if they show proof of a negative test.

Yet with the more lenient rules, visitors to the Christmas markets in Berlin must wear face masks and social distancing will be enforced. 

A number of the German capital’s famous Christmas markets – including the WeihnachtsZauber market at Gendarmenmarkt – have confirmed that only vaccinated people over the age of 12, or those who have recovered from Covid, will be allowed entry, reports the Local

The only exception to the rules is for children under the age of 12, who are currently unable to get vaccinated. But the youngsters will still have to show a negatives [sic] test, although children under the age of six will not have to provide proof.   

The move is the latest example of countries in Europe banning unvaccinated people from public events. 

Last week, Austria’s Chancellor Alexander Schallenberg announced that the country is considering a Covid lockdown which would only restrict those who are not fully jabbed. 

Schallenberg announced that if the number of Covid patients in intensive-care units reaches 500, or 25% of the country’s total ICU capacity, entrance into businesses such as restaurants and hotels will be limited to those who are vaccinated or recovered from the virus.    

If the number reaches 600, or one-third of total ICU capacity, the Government plans to impose restrictions on unvaccinated people. In this case, they would only be allowed to leave their homes for specific reasons. Currently, the number of Covid patients in ICUs stands at 220. 

Meanwhile, earlier this month, the French Government announced it would be extending the requirement for a ‘health pass’ for people to access restaurants, bars, cinemas, museums and tourist attractions such as the Eiffel Tower. 

The pass means that only those who are fully vaccinated, recovered from the virus in the last six months, or a negative test result in the past 48 hours are allowed to visit the public venues or access long-distance transport.

The Government also announced that for those who are unvaccinated, Covid tests will no longer be free and those who have not been jabbed will have to pay for a test each time they want to travel to the venues.

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Julian
4 years ago

Much of Europe in the grip of fascism

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Most especially the bits not openly run by authoritarian strong men, it appears.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Ironic, yes.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Austria planning that for the whole country.

What are the proportion of non fully vaxxed in those countries?

Will they, like Israel, change the definition of ‘fully vaxxed’ overnight?

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yep: Hitler was born too soon!

FlynnQuill
4 years ago
Reply to  iane

I think he has been re-incarnated in nearly every leader in he world.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  FlynnQuill

Bozo playing the Charlie Chaplin version with Laurel & Hardy in support.

Will
Will
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I voted to Remain, I wasn’t particularly bothered by Brexit though. Now I am delighted we are not in any sort of political affiliation with the fascists on the continent. When the vaccine failure comes it will be most entertaining to watch these Nazis scrabbling about for their excuses.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

What vaccine failure? The third jab has arrived and people are eagerly getting it. The 4th jab will be out by March, and the 5th by next October.
Basically we now have people who have been jabbed and have their ‘Vaxx Pass’ and those who haven’t been jabbed and don’t have a pass.
Those with vaxx passes are allowed to do things the unvaxxed can’t – such as be exempt from a 10-day quarantine for travel.

For making a thorough mess of society and dividing families, splitting up relationships, and causing all round misery and anger, the ‘vaccines’ have been very successful. The politicians and members of SAGE (and the likes of Whitty and Ferguson) have got away with this and are laughing all the way to their bank accounts.

SJR
SJR
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

There’ll be a lot more ‘technically unvaccinated’ if they require a booster to count as ‘fully vaccinated’.

My wife and son (with no prompting from me) have decided not to have boosters, especially as it’s the Pfizer jab, rather than the AZ jab they had, plus they don’t see the point.

I imagine quite a few people will refuse boosters like them.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  SJR

Correct, remember that the major selling point of the vaccines was the “novelty” of the virus – better to get exposed gently through a vaccine rather than uncontrollably through an infection (in fact, this is how they should have been marketed all along, not “manna from heaven”, but rather a “lesser evil”). But because after having been vaccinated there is presumably no longer anything “novel” about it, the boosters will be quite a hard sell.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

As mentioned earlier as an immunosuppressive person I am told I need a third Primary Jab on top of initial 2 via GP and then 4th jab via NHS Vaccine Central, early by reason as above plus being in early sixties cohort.

No sign of either being offered as yet.
Also an article in yesterday’s Roundup spoke of elderly people queuing outside getting fed up when their boosters not turning up and walking away unvaxxed.

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

4th jab being the booster.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Society was already a thorough mess; the COVID scam has just laid bare its sick soul.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

Actually, EU vaccine passports should already have been a topic in the December 2019 General Election
https://www.ageofautism.com/2019/10/the-id2020-alliance-the-global-totalitarian-project-hiding-behind-the-vaccine-drive.html

John001
John001
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

Sweden, Norway and Denmark may be a slight exception.

Any news from Portugal?

Jo
Jo
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

Me too.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Gerald Celente on The Delingpod

https://odysee.com/@JamesDelingpoleChannel:0/celente:8

Gerald Celente on The Delingpod

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Barry Rd/Goswell Rd 
Windsor SL4 1QY
Meet in the Park 2pm followed by walk to 
Stand in the Town Centre By the Castle
About 2 hours in total.

*********************************************************
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 Bracknell Town Centre – 1.30pm to 2.30pm  
 after Stand in the Park 

Let’s make our Yellow Boards
More Spectacular than the Northern Lights

***********************************
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Make friends – keep sane – talk freedom and have a laugh
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behind the Cockpit Path car park in the centre of the town 

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Sundays from 10am  Wednesdays from 2pm
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Margaret
4 years ago

So what happens when the double jabbed attend the market and later some of them “test” positive for Covid? It could turn out to be a super spreader event!

No I'm Spartacus!
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

By not allowing in the unvaxxed, there will be a higher rate of transmission.

Way to go guys!

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago

And they won’t be able to blame the unvaxxed either, as they won’t be there! So who can they scapegoat then?

Jon Mors
Jon Mors
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

It won’t be Covid. It’ll be ‘flu’.

northernlass
northernlass
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

The under 12s – their real target. Poor kids

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

Let’s hope so.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Margaret

What happens is that they will tell you “we’ve tried our best to make everyone (!) happy (since unvaccinated no longer count as people), but you see, this virus is such a menace that we need another lockdown”.

Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago

I wonder if Jews were allowed in Berlin Christmas markets in the ’30s…

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

If they are anything like their NYC brethren German Jews are more than average likely to be non vaxxed. Their ‘recovered from Covid’ status likely to be over 6 months old and so timed out in some jurisdictions.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  karenovirus

No they put all their masks in a pile and burned them too. Quite proud of my brethren (for a change) !

karenovirus
4 years ago
Reply to  crisisgarden

They also got together for large weddings while ignoring social distancing, quite right too even if it did lead to an inconsequential rise in cases.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

I’m sure we weren’t and I am entirely supportive of this historical comparison.

BillyWiz
BillyWiz
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

And it is only a matter of time before the unvaxxed are forced to wear gold stars on their arm…

Mark
4 years ago

And yet in Belarus they’re still facing the hysterical warnings about what will happen if they don’t panic and lock down/mask up/”vaccinate”. Even though they ignored those warnings last year and incredibly it seems enough of them survived to have another “worst epidemic in human history” this year! Here’s Lukashenko rightly berating his ministers for listening to the US sphere media and its fear propaganda, and making Johnson look like a complete pussy: https://twitter.com/HangingProphets/status/1453048952476078090 No idea of context or if the translation is accurate, but it’s great stuff. Here’s the ABC News (US sphere anti-Belarus pro-coronapanic propaganda, remember) piece referencing some of it, linked from a comment to that Tweet: Belarus scraps short-lived mask mandates amid virus surge “KYIV, Ukraine — Belarusian authorities on Friday horrified doctors by abolishing mask mandates, less than two weeks after their introduction for the first time during the pandemic and a day after the country registered a record number of new coronavirus infections. The decision came after Belarus’ authoritarian President Alexander Lukashenko dismissed the measures as unnecessary during a meeting with officials earlier this week. “It’s just over the top to send police to track down those who aren’t wearing masks,” Lukashenko said. “We… Read more »

James Kreis
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Lukashenko stands head and shoulders above the spineless, supine leaders of the so-called Western Democracies.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

This certainly does him credit.

I wouldn’t call these so-called democratic leaders spineless, though. They’ve just demonstrated that their cherished political system does amount to nothing but mob rule after all and that Aristoteles was right cautioning against it because the demos would sooner or later always fall prey to a demagogue.

Norman
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I love the irony of his comment.

Jon Mors
Jon Mors
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Indeed. That last bit ‘We aren’t the West’ had a very Trumpian flourish to it.

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon Mors

Made even more comical with the tag Lukashenko is given in the article as ‘authoritarian,!

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

God Emperor Farage

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3hyrBXcrzC4

The Jabbed Vs The Jabbed-Nots.

Mark
4 years ago

Nice to see Farage has recovered from his occasional covid panicker wobble last year, at least far enough to resist the worst.

There’s still hope that coerced vaccination will represent the step too far we’ve been waiting for by the medico-fascists.

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Love him or hate him, I was hoping that ‘marmite man’ would stick his oar in. If anyone can focus opposition to this medico-fascism he can. I wonder if he will follow up this intervention and if so how?

Alkanet
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Yes saw him on GB News but totally let himself (and us) down by repeating the moronically pathetic ‘less poorly than would have been otherwise’ line. Am I alone in wanting to punch anyone who believes this absolute and utter fairy story CRAP!

A Y M
4 years ago
Reply to  Alkanet

No you aren’t alone. The proposition is unprovable. Since hospitalisation and dying from Covid is so statistically rare in the popular as a whole you can’t know this at all.
It doesn’t help that they rig the game by making you vaxed only after 2 weeks from the second jab. So when most deaths occur in the first 2 weeks of the second jab, you can put those vaccine deaths in the unvaccinated column.
But repeat a lie often enough and vilify those who deny it and you get an imaginary truth validated.

Jon Mors
Jon Mors
4 years ago
Reply to  A Y M

I don’t disagree but if you believe that you are less likely to suffer ‘hospitalisation or death’ having had the vaccine than not, it’s not hard to extrapolate from that to ‘I would have been worse had I not had the vaccine’. Of course, I doubt it works on a straight line like that, but, fundamentally, it is a logical thing to believe, even if it’s wrong.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Alkanet

I’d welcome you to punch all my former friends who have dutifully and pitifully trotted out this line after bouts of embarrassing post-vax covid! I simply disowned them.

crisisgarden
4 years ago

Farage is a populist, so his bringing this up is a good sign; it means he can sense that there’s an opportunity to tap into the growing opposition to all the psychotic authoritarianism. I’ve always been on the fence about Farage but would be willing to get behind him as a means of overthrowing (or delaying) our imminent dystopia.

Encierro
4 years ago

So will that mean the likes of the double vaccinate and now positive Starmer be allowed in?

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

This Mail article thinks Ardern grinning over the two tier society is just fine:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10131615/Tory-MP-accuses-anti-vaxxer-making-implicit-threat.html

Alkanet
4 years ago

Evil bitch.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Alkanet

New Zealanders seem quite happy with her – they haven’t strung her up yet.

itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
4 years ago

Love Berlin, stayed there several times with work and leisure (including looking up Bowie’s old pad from the ’70s.
Never again. Shame.

RW
RW
4 years ago

There are two important things to bear in mind here

  • for practical purposes, Germany has been COVID-free since spring. This is just public authorities enjoying themselves after they’ve finally been set free from that dreaded Grundgesetz
  • Berlin is ruled by Red/Red/Green coalition, this means the social democrats (SPD), the Greens and the former GDR state party in it’s current guise (Die Linke — amusingly, in German, the connotation of that is something like The conmen)

Hence, the notion that this sorry spectacle is actually engineered by communists is correct.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

When Jesus was born the lepers were not allowed into the Bethlehem Christmas market so things have not moved on much in 2021 years

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

They have. Lepers were segregated because they had a deadly, highly contagious and serious unpleasant disease and at that time, people didn’t know any better. None of this applies to the situation in Berlin.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

I beg to differ

The Christmas Market I refer to commenced on 31st September in the year BC1 and ended on 2nd January AD1. Records held in Bethlehem Town Hall show that the matter of the lepers and the forthcoming Christmas Market were discussed at length at Council meetings in June and July that year. These debates included the concerns about infection

The issue arose after disturbances at the BC2 Christmas Market when a group of lepers drunk on Schnapps tried to gain entry and were refused

Lawyers for the lepers argued that they had been attending Christmas Markets for well over a hundred years before this date.

The council voted against the lepers ‘pleas of admission’ and this was the first recorded example of exclusion from a Christmas Market

A fuller explanation is included in my new book ‘Christmas and the Vaccine Pass’ which will be in all good charity shops by January

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

I like this text. But it’s nevertheless not really applicable to the situation as the people supposed to be excluded from the Berlin market are not excluded because they’re sick, the disease in question is neither particularly deadly nor particularly contagious and the authorities or rather, their medical experts have the knowledge necessary to understand this themselves. They’re just knowingly pretending this was different because it suits their political goals.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Most definitely about political goals. The idiot that is the minister of health in NL yesterday started the scapegoating of the unvaxxed. Yesterday the pr&ck had a little hissy fit in front of the cameras saying it was an epidemic of the unvaxxed, 90% in hospital and icus were unvaxxed, almost all infected were unvaxxed and they were the ones spreading it to vaxxed. He probably is dumb enough to not know that the official health numbers published yesterday show that the split in terms of infections is almost 50-50 and has been rising in the vaxxed group and falling in unvaxxed since August – I have no doubt that vaxxed infected will surpass unvaxxed infected within the next few weeks, just as in England. Today several members of the outbreak management team (the ones that are actual doctors and scientists) have said they disagree with special measures aimed at unvaxxed only. The team hasn’t met with the government yet and it is uncommon for members to speak out like this – they are making it clear, in other words, that pointing the finger at the unvaxxed is politically motivated, not scientifically. Not to mention that yesterday all the academic… Read more »

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Yesterday the pr&ck had a little hissy fit in front of the cameras saying it was an epidemic of the unvaxxed, 90% in hospital and icus were unvaxxed, almost all infected were unvaxxed and they were the ones spreading it to vaxxed. Doubtlessly reciting the core of a preprared press release he got from elsewhere as this is eerily similar to what other political leaders have said in the past. Basically, this amounts to claiming that the Corona vaccines are 100% effective against transmission and provide no protection from the disease itself. Which is the exact opposite of what they’re actually supposed to do, namely, protect against serious COVID-19 but not against Sars-CoV2 transmission. It’s also impossible. While the exact mechanism of viral transmission is unkown, it depends on the viral load of a person: The more viruses are in her body, the more viruses can be shed and hence, infect others. Hence, in order to prevent transmission, viral load must be kept down. But in absence of viral load, there can be no disease caused by viruses: If vaccination prevents transmission, it also protects against disease. Hence, the vaccinated had nothing to be afraid of if his claim was… Read more »

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

De Jonge, Rutte’s weasel side-kick, is indeed an utter prick! And of 28,000 people surveyed, apparently 72% are in favour of specific restrictions against the “unvaxxed”. Well, I don’t believe these surveys and polls are fair or realistic anyway, they’re mostly always rigged, so I’m not going to take that at face value. It’s their effort to further divide society and pit the “vaxxed” against the “unvaxxed”. God knows what lies in store for the 2nd Nov announcement but I’m glad experts are actually starting to speak out as they realise the danger and futility of polarizing the population like this. It’s just really low and desperate political tactics.

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  Mogwai

I don’t believe the 72% bit either. It is absolutely the intention to divide us – as RW says above, it looks eerily similar in most countries and indeed it does. I reckon most of this nonsense comes straight from the pfisser marketing department. This evening walking my dogs with a fellow unvaxx, we bumped into another neighbour. Very middle class area, I wouldn’t be surprised if vaxx rate is 99% here. I know this neighbour is vaxxed, he knows my view on the nonsense and usually tries to avoid getting me started. But he brought it up this evening and I asked if he wanted us to be put on an island. He said he didn’t understand why they were saying stuff like that. Not only did he not think that way, he didn’t understand why they were trying to target people like that. Gives me some hope that there will be more like that. As for the weasel – a friend mentioned the other day that everyone who had been a political partner of Rutte had ended up with a knife in the back. Rutte has been very quiet on the scapegoating side, perhaps he’s giving De Jonge… Read more »

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

As an aside the first known Christmas Market took place Samaria in 352BC

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Jesus grew up to touch and heal lepers. Things have moved back along way since then.

Susan
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

And invited everybody to his banquet. But only a remnant now want to go.

John
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

Actually leprosy is not that contagious, it requires long exposure. Also being infected doesn’t mean that you develop symptoms, less than 5%. According to Wikipedia, also leprosy mission https://www.leprosymission.org.uk/about/about-leprosy/
One of the drugs used to treat it is Thalidomide! https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/12361920/

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Most people are event naturally immune to it. But that’s something we know today and the people living around 1BC/1AD didn’t know.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Never mind, most of them had a cracking Christmas that year

As an aside, as Adam and Eve’s two children were both male how did the human race propagate without involving an incestious relationship?

Asking for a friend

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Cecil B

The story goes like this: when Adam and Eve’s son loves his female pet monkey very much…

CynicalRealist
4 years ago

No great surprise given the vicious authoritarianism which is sweeping the world (Germany seems one of the worst for it, although behind Australia, Austria and a few others) – but muzzles and ‘social distancing’ at a Christmas market? How do they think that’s ever going to be possible without making it financially non-viable? Those events rely on being packed in order to be viable!

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  CynicalRealist

Well, the Germans have a bit of form for this sort of thing, and the Little Corporal was born in Austria, so it’s not unexpected.
What next, maybe banning the vaxxed from going into shops run by the unvaxxed? Perhaps the virtuous little pincushions could break a few of their windows as a warning?

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Somehow nationalist dictatorships were pretty much ubiquitous in Europe after the first world war.

Johnny Dollar
4 years ago

Beggs the question: What lessons did The German Politicians learnt from the Nazis!??

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnny Dollar

If Goering was anything to go by, it’s that you can do anything you like if you scare the population enough (or words to that effect)

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Literally what EU greed green deal commissioner Frans Timmermans said last week. “If you want people to change, you must scare them” He was talking about his climate nonsense intended to make his rich buddies even richer, but it seems clear the corona ‘crisis’ and the climate ‘crisis’ are linked.

La plus ca change …

ChrisDinBristol
ChrisDinBristol
4 years ago
Reply to  JaneDoeNL

Yup, two heads of the same malodorous monster. Same MO, same hubris, same corrupted ‘science’, same statistical gymnastics, same crapness & manipulation of data, same censorship and opprobrium for opponents, same language, same evidence-free scaremongering, same reliance on models and ‘experts’, same slavish MSM propagandising, same hypocrisy amongst the elite, same behind-the-scenes influence (Club of Rome/WEF, Maurice Strong/Klaus Schwab, Al Gore/Bill Gates), same goals (Great Reset/Agenda 2030/ID2020 etc).

It’s uncanny. But just coincidence, of course. . .

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

And you need a group to direct hate against. Doesn’t matter who they are.

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Absolutely. Pretty obvious who that group are in this situation!

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnny Dollar

They learnt that if you want to establish another dictatorship all you need is to call the opposition Nazis (which has been practiced by the corona regime from day one).

ZR_
ZR_
4 years ago
Reply to  Johnny Dollar

They learned that losing to the globalists means that within 80 years your country will be flooded with foreigners, your children will be learning all sorts of degeneracy in school and in a desperate attempt to keep the liberal world order held together they will enforce vaccinations and jabs on the public.

Will
Will
4 years ago

The wholesale vaccine failure we are seeing in the UK, now, will hit the continent soon enough. When it does it will be popcorn time!!!

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Will

Here you go!

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Annie
4 years ago

Frogs and Krauts. Disgusting.
I’m a xenophobe.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The truth is xenophobic.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

In 54ad the Peckham Christmas market was closed to all but spinsters after an outbreak of highly infectious goat herpes

Nobody complained then

Victoria4376
Victoria4376
4 years ago

No words … this is bewildering

steve_z
4 years ago

I know they are talking about it in the UK which is bad enough but we haven’t actually done it yet.

I hope we avoid and it will look like hysteria when everyone looks back

But I hoped the same about lockdown and was disappointed

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

They have done it it Scotistan and Gulag Wales. Muzzleoid Wales has the highest covvipos rates in the UK.

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I’d prefer lockdown to vaxxpass. in the former its everybody against the government – in the latter its us all against each other

JaneDoeNL
JaneDoeNL
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

That is exactly why they’re doing it this way. The health min. here has kept bleating on about why should those who were good citizens and got the vaxx be deprived of their freedoms to protect the freedoms of the unvaxxed.

So the sheep blame the smart ones for the restrictions, rather than understanding that the only person depriving them of their freedoms is in fact the self-same health min., riding rough shod over the constitution every step of the way. Not one unvaxxed can restrict anyone else’s freedom, but that type of thinking is apparently too complex.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

I’d prefer neither – don’t fall for their attemps to create a false dichotomy!

alw
alw
4 years ago

I’ve just been in Malta for two days and Sicily for seven. The locals seem to be ignoring the facemask diktat but unfortunately tourists have to comply. If you thought the UK was bad, Malta and Sicily regulations nonsensical to the extreme. And as for the vaccine passports abroad most places don’t understand what they are looking at and in the end just wave everyone through.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  alw

Yep was just in Barcelona, mask central. And they’re militant about it.

felicityby
4 years ago

Think it will be logistically impossible to police that event.

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

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I am Spartacas
4 years ago

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DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Dont they just love all of that over there, the mindset never changes. In an instant they’re back in time.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I used to be a tourist guide. You could always spot a German tour group from a mile off. They were the ones that for ed themselves into a squad and waited for orders.

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I’m not overly critical as many Brits have demonstrated over the past two years that they are not that far removed from such a mindset. Indeed, many have demanded we copy any authoritative measures that have occurred worldwide from China to Australia.

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

The vaccine doesn’t stop you getting the virus and doesn’t stop you spreading it.

So this is not about controlling the virus since many of those testing positive for covid have actually been double jabbed.

This is something else much more sinister and evil.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Digital Control

TheBluePill
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

I suspect that in terms of national government, the main motivation is removal of the control group. We are already starting to see that all-cause mortality is considerably higher for the jabbed. That truth cannot be visible. This fits in perfectly with the goals of the puppet-masters, which is population reduction and serfdom.

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago

Whether it’s proof of vaccine, proof of recovery or a negative test it is still a medical ‘permission’ and I will not play ball with a society where the ludicrous default position is that we are all assumed to be ill unless we can prove we are not.

Mogwai
4 years ago

Same. I’m never sticking a fecking swab up my nose to prove I’m not some walking bio-hazard. “Papers please”, only the 21st century digitalized version, can f*ck right off. That will never be the norm in my world nor my kids’.

steve_z
4 years ago

I think we need a passport to show that the bearer has undergone basic training in freedom, Magna Carta, the history of civil rights, democracy and has knowledge of apartheid south africa and the Holocaust

Bella Donna
4 years ago

We’ve just returned from a trip to visit friends. Both double jabbed, both flu jabbed, and both with stinking colds and coughs. They blamed their grandchildren for it. They are now considering having a pneumonia jab too. I pleaded with them to stop this madness but they resented my input. I was gobsmacked they haven’t made the connection!

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Friend of mine, double jabbed, pneumonia jabbed flu jabbed, has been ‘very poorly’ she said, for 2 weeks and said this covid is a terrible virus. She’s now worried about her 30 year old son who refuses to be jabbed with anything but hasnt been ill at all!. They don’t make the connection at all, its fascinating.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I didn’t even know you could get a pneumonia vaccine so I’ve learnt something new there. I hope it has better efficacy than the useless flu jab, which is basically just used to pacify oldies and the hypochondriacs.

wendy
wendy
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Perhaps they should have shingles, and MMR to top up. Maybe should you suggested they have polio and TB too.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  wendy

And while they’re at it, Yellow Fever. Well…you can’t be too careful. Might give it someone else if you dont!

Nymeria
4 years ago
Reply to  wendy

A lobotomy might be the best option.

Manjushri
Manjushri
4 years ago
Reply to  Nymeria

No need, the covid injection does that!

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

My husband has just had another barney with his now TRIPLE jabbed mother, WHO constantly goads us with her pro-covid, fear psychosis. He cannot get anything through her thick cranium. She doesn’t get it and doesn’t want to, and we’re the wrong ‘uns apparently.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

You have to take a step back and let people like that learn the hard way. I get more sense out of my cat’s arse than brain-dead fools like that.

northernlass
northernlass
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

My husband (un vaxxed) currently has COVID – in all honesty it has floored him and he is genuinely not well with has all of the main symptoms. Typical response from the majority of family and friends is ‘do you wish you’d been vaccinated now?’ and ‘will this make you get the vaccine now you’ve had it so rough?’
Shocking that people feel pleased he is more poorly than they were when they had CV because they were jabbed, and fail to see that his natural immunity means he shouldn’t ever need the jab. Crazy world where personal choice has created complete lack of empathy comes from those closest to you.

Old Maid
4 years ago
Reply to  northernlass

I hope your husband feels better soon. When the mister and I got what we now believe was covid (weirder than just a cold, but not so bad as a full-blown flu), we upped our vitamins, ate home-made soups full of veggies, drank plenty of liquids, and sucked sugar-free sweets to stop the coughing. And slept. Took about a week each to get over it.

Make sure you look after yourself, too. For myself, I’d block unsupportive family and friends until he’s on the mend.

Good luck.

RickH
4 years ago

So – they’re resurrecting Hitler in Berlin. How historical and hysterical.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Since when would the former SED resurrect Hitler? 

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Ja, er ist wieder da.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

What laughable nonsense! “We are so sure the vaccines work that all visitors to our Christmas market have to be jabbed and wear masks and social distance”. Hmm, now, I may be cynical here but does this not strike everyone with a smidgeon of brain as a load of bollocks?

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

Sounds like such a lotta fun though!😵

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Quite – talk about turning it into a thoroughly dispiriting experience!

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Austin

The whole point of admitting only vaccinated is that there are then no masks and social distance rules. At least that is how German regulations are at the moment (to encourage vaccinated to infect each other freely).

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

An interesting point as well is how all the world “leaders” are using the same rhetorical phrases “Build Back Better”, “Build Back Greener”, “Social Distancing”.
Can someone please explain exactly how come all of these phrases were “suddenly” co-ordinated? Many of us know how of course.

amanuensis
4 years ago

I presume that if it transpires that the vaccinated become more likely to become infected and infectious than the unvaccinated, then they’ll ban the vaccinated from markets and make them pay for testing.

wendy
wendy
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

No, they’ll blame the unvaccinated even more!