Scottish Hospitality Venues Closing Early Due to Vaccine Passport Scheme

Following the recent enforcement of Scotland’s vaccine passport scheme, members of staff have had to turn away potential customers at the door if they fail to show the correct documentation required for entry. This has led to a severe decrease in footfall, with some businesses electing to close early. BBC News has the story.

Venue staff refused entry to revellers without vaccine passports more than 550 times, and some staff were abused, the Scottish Hospitality Group said.

It said some venues decided to close early and footfall was down by up to 40%.

The Scottish Government said the scheme was a “proportionate” health measure.

Ministers say it will encourage more people to get vaccinated against Covid and ensure late-night venues can remain open during a “potentially very difficult” winter.

The vaccine certification scheme was introduced on October 1st but there was no enforcement during a 17-day “grace period” as venues adjusted to the new requirements.

The Scottish Hospitality Group, which opposes the scheme, said the first real test this weekend had been “one of unmitigated disaster”.

“The Scottish Hospitality Group has been warning the Government for weeks that their vaccine passports scheme is not ready, but the Government’s attitude has been to tell us to ‘get on with it’ whilst offering no safety net of support for businesses or our hard working staff”.

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JayBee
4 years ago

As proportionate as all the other measures, restrictions, enslavings and murders.

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Spot on, they don’t even bother to hide the fact anymore that it’s simple coercion to get people ‘jabbed’

A spokesperson said: “Covid-19 certification is a proportionate way of encouraging people to get vaccinated, and also of helping large events and night-time hospitality to keep operating during what will potentially be a very difficult winter.

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

If you’re wondering why more medics globally don’t speak-up against the narrative?

Here is Swiss Dr. Binder’s story…

https://gemmaodoherty.com/swiss-cardiologist-dr-thomas-binder-arrested-for-speaking-out-about-the-coronavirus-lie/

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kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  bOrgkilLaH1of7

Horrific that they actually put this doctor into a mental hospital for speaking out about the fraudulent medical statements on covid.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

So glad that the State is “helping” with the problem that it created.

FlynnQuill
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

You must, must put this poison in to you that may potentially do serious harm or even kill you. It will do fu@k all about protecting you from the virus, but just shut up and take it anyway. How can some people not see what is very, very wrong with this picture?

jennyw
4 years ago
Reply to  JayBee

Social Credit System is due to be launched in 2022, according to the UK government. No doubt that all of this will be tied in with digital IDs and central bank digital currencies. Welcome to dystopia.

https://theexpose.uk/2021/10/26/uk-government-to-launch-social-credit-system-in-2022/

Toby still thinks it’s a conspiracy theory.

realarthurdent
4 years ago

The Scottish Hospitality Group has been warning the Government for weeks that their vaccine passports scheme is not ready,”

They should be warning the Government instead that the sceme is completely pointless since the Prime Minister himself has said that vaccination does not prevent infection or transmission of the virus and so vaccinated people are as much of a risk to others inside venues as unvaccinated people.

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

And might even be more of a risk!

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Yes, Boris didn’t say that but the evidence does suggest they are more of a risk because they are more likely to carry the virus asymptomatically and their viral load when they are infected may be even higher than in the unvaccinated.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

… and jibbee-jabbee morons think that fellow jibbee-jabbee morons keep them saaaaafe.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

More of a risk and more boring. Who’d want to party with a load of wuzzies.

snoozle
snoozle
4 years ago

Unnecessary scheme results in economic pain. Why would anyone be surprised?

RW
RW
4 years ago

Ministers say it will […] ensure late-night venues can remain open during a “potentially very difficult” winter.

A second lie. On their own, mandatory checks of vaccination status are just red tape increasing the operating costs of the affected venues and making life more difficult for prospective customers. But the government promises that it won’t force these venues to close again this winter. Promises now, mind you. That doesn’t mean they won’t change their mind in a few weeks and without government dictating so, they wouldn’t have to close at all.

FlynnQuill
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

How the feck can a phone keep you safe in a venue when the jab doesn’t work!! If it did work, then they are moot, they don’t work so they are moot. I just feel like screaming, everyday in this world is like living in some Alice in Wonderland dark nightmare.

Lucan Grey
4 years ago

To misquote Marie Antoinette.

Let them go bust.

Only when unemployment goes through the roof with the nationalist nutters relent.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

It’s not just nationalists. We might get them here in England. And they are widespread throughout fascist Europe.

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

THe SNP aren’t nationalists: they support mass Third World immigration.

What they are is people who hate the English.

Nessimmersion
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Not just the English, they hate anyone who differs from.the cult.
They hate independent t
Rational Scots even more.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Unemployment just means more reliance on the State. Socialists have never feared it.

FlynnQuill
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

It’s now come to a point where businesses need to say fu@k off and stand against the tyranny. If they don’t I have no sympathy for them I’m afraid. there comes a time when you either die on your knees or your feet!

bowlsman
bowlsman
4 years ago
Reply to  FlynnQuill

Agreed, but they then have business licences revoked and loose everything, people loose jobs. Loosers all round basically. The authorities don’t care, everything sacrificed on the alter of C-19

Susan
4 years ago

Maybe not as many jabbed Scots as government claims?

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

Almost certainly.

Annie
4 years ago

So the Scothospitality morons would support the Nazipass if it were better organised?
Why don’t they just put a gun to their heads right away?

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Why don’t they just put a gun to their heads right away?

If they’ve already been needled then no is gun required. Autoimmune disorders, neuro degeneration, heart disease, vasculitis, cancer, prion disease and a whole host of other terminal nasties are awaiting the vaxxed. Now roll up your sleeves it’s booster time.

itoldyouiwasill
itoldyouiwasill
4 years ago

Everybody, including Sturgeon, knew this would go tits up.
Somebody now needs to ask, in public:
A. Whether Sturgeon or her party has received (or been promised) any funding or monies from the pharmaceutical sector or the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation during this pandemic.
B. If so, how much
C. If she or her party deny this, will they go on oath to confirm as such

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Who says it has gone tits up? Has it not achieved what Nicola Ceausescu wanted?

Mr Dee
4 years ago

I wonder whether nightlife in Newcastle has increased its footfall.

My daughter travels across the border to Chester or Oswestry for her nights out now, avoiding Wrexham, as a direct consequence of the Coviet Pass required in Wales.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago

More unemployment is a certainty, though that actually seems to be the aim.

Cecil B
Cecil B
4 years ago

If it allows us to murder one more person it will be worth it

8bit
8bit
4 years ago

Spot the ‘subtle’ hint in the photo: two bald muscle bound thugs as security and the quivering weed in the background. They initially proposed two guys in Gestapo uniform, but the photo editor nixed it and thought two gang members more fitting.

Hawkins_94
Hawkins_94
4 years ago

Gigs and nightclubs cannot be that much of a sway to those opposed to being “vaccinated”. I had tickets to a few gigs and I’ve just had to cancel them. The real danger is the slow creep as to what comes next – even Wales with its botched vote is already talking about upping the ante on those exercising their right to decline this medical procedure. I fear the worst.

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

We need more fighting talk like this in our own parliament…

https://twitter.com/i/status/1452215638425022470

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

Full video MEPs start gathering to defend fundamental rights of EU citizens and oppose mandatory vaccination and the Green Certificate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_walPWEACsc

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Interesting that they only felt compelled to start pushing back when the Green Pass started to affect them personally, with the threat that unvaxed MEPs won’t be able to enter the parliament.

In the end too many people only react when they are personally affected.

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

My friend said to me he got jabbed to do his bit to get us back to normal. I tried to point out that the only reason we aren’t normal is because he (and many others) agreed to go along with it. Only one of us is right, only one of us has hundreds of millions of pounds of advertising power, the law, ofcom and the courts on their side too though. Most people don’t care until it affects them, you can’t care about everything you’d have no life. We are all supposed to care about the truth, honesty, decency, integrity etc, well at least I was brought up to. The rot has set in and the systems are broken, the corrupt and opportunist will prosper and the flock doesn’t seem to care. I have some sympathy for those that are fooled and think they are doing the right thing, most just wanted to be able to “do normal things” like my sister and other friends. I pointed out to my original friend that I’m not making such a show of resistance to be popular, this whole debacle has cost me money, friendships, a partner, sleep, my health, my mental… Read more »

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Well done to you. I too have lost a dear friend to this debacle as I am sure have many others.

Stay strong. Someday hopefully the truth will be out.

RickH
4 years ago

Sorry to be negative, but all the repetitive moaning and cursing here isn’t going to make a blind bit of difference, any more than labelling the compliant as ‘thick’.

No – they’re behaving in a stupid way – but that has been engineered, and all the self-righteousness in the world isn’t going to change it. Until we can find a key to reversing that brainwashing (and, no, I’ve run out of ideas), this is just hot air.

I had a fascinating and calm conversation this afternoon (with a total sceptic) about whether someone should assent to being jabbed, if not being so meant that they were barred from many things that are important in their lives. I had to agree that, even given my personal stance, accepting the risk of the jab in order to escape other major ‘social’ harms – given that any mass revolt is just pie in the sky – is a perfectly logical choice.

It’s not my choice, but just sitting on my arse virtue signalling and ranting doesn’t alter that other person’s rational choice.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

It’s rational up to a point – it assumes the risk of the jab is low enough to make it worth it (possibly/probably true) and that once you get jabbed you’re free (less certain given governments’ propensity to lie, move the goalposts and find excuses to restrict freedoms). It also assumes the battle is basically lost – probably true, except perhaps it’s possible that people will dig their heels in over endless boosters, in which case it’s not a futile gesture. I’m sticking to my guns for now but others will have pressures that I do not.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

But, if you do have an adverse reaction to jab 1, you will have a problem – no treatment on the NHS and they probably won’t even link it to the vaccine, and you won’t have a vaccine passport.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

Yes, there is a small risk. Depends how you perceive that risk vs the reward of whatever the vaxx passport will give you.

Also we’re assuming that testing often won’t be an acceptable alternative. Recent negative test in Italy for example is OK for Green Pass purposes.

hilarynw
hilarynw
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I think now though that we have to factor in the endless boosters – look at Israel. We can no longer take the ‘hold our noses, jump and hope for the best’ approach and give a sigh of relief that we’ve survived the double jab. Every 6 months there is going to be the gamble of whether you make it through the next booster or you again face losing your privileges. I’d rather lose mine now and know that I still have my health at least.

The recent news about the effect these jabs is having on the immune system is deeply disturbing. It may be that those who are jabbed will have completely lost their ability to ever gain immunity from this virus due to the obsession of forming antibodies to the spike protein alone. They face a future possibly being immunocompromised – a bleak prospect indeed.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’m sticking to my guns, too, Julian. For me the ethics loom large, being one of the post-war generation who were immersed in the significance of the post-war settlement (as we thought) and conversations with a wide variety of people over the years who had actually suffered under Nazi occupation.

However, the conversation I had was, as I implied, about the ‘What if’ scenario of life made intolerable imposition of coercive restrictions – such as not being able to see family. I was putting a wider perspective on the repetitive and simplistic ranting, having now had eighteen months of arguing the rational case and using different strategies to drop pebbles in the pond. (And yes – this isn’t ‘holier than thou’ stuff – I’m susceptible to getting into pointless rants.

Like you, I hope that some of the absurdities will lead to a move forward, but my point is that repetition of the same old same old isn’t – on its own – sufficient to aid the process.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Yes indeed. We all (well, most of us) have our breaking point and lines we won’t cross. I’ve got no close family abroad but my Mrs does, and if she felt she needed to test in order to travel to see them I would be fine with that, and if she felt she needed me to travel with her I would be fine with that too. Her family are mainly sceptical so they’ve said to her not to get vaxxed just to travel and see them, but if you have an ageing parent who you may never see again that is a tough call.

If I were to get on my high horse I would say some people have sold themselves too cheaply, but then I can cope with a fairly low-key life not attending sports events or whatnot. If restrictions leave you miserable as sin, again it’s tough.

silverbirch
silverbirch
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Rick – you are correct. My much loved sister lives in Montreal. I went through endless hoops to see her for 5 weeks in the summer. She has MS and her life is becoming increasingly restricted. Trudeau made it law from 1st September that no unvaccinated person could do anything except buy food. My sister tried to stick it out but was barred from church, meeting friends for lunch in a restaurant, her ladies group etc. She became extremely depressed and cracked last month and got the shot, she gets the second injection tomorrow and will be ‘free’ two weeks after that (until the booster). I am terrified because her health is already so poor. She said she had 9 months of lockdown last year – hated it but got through it, so thought she could do it again but couldn’t. The difference is that everyone was locked down, now there is apartheid. She has made the decision that if the poison kills her, she has no life without it.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  silverbirch

Apartheid is a bad term here both because it’s politically tainted (ie, bound to start a useless, heated discussion about something entirely unrelated) and not really appropriate. This used to refer to system for organizing society such that differen racial group led separated lives in physically separated parts of a country (gross oversimplification but should be good enough).

That’s not what Trudeau has implemented in Canada, as the unvaccinated aren’t living together in nominally free reservations of unvaccinated: He isn’t that merciful and has no need for them as lower class working force. What the Canadian state is doing is keeping people in forced social isolation with only basic physical necessities like food and shelter being available to them in order to make them see the error of their ways.

This is not a system for organizing a society that’s supposed to function. It’s one supposed to punish dissenters cruelly in order to enforce compliance while carefully avoiding to admit this openly.

hilarynw
hilarynw
4 years ago
Reply to  silverbirch

I totally see your sister’s point of view. I have family in 2 different countries abroad and it is becoming very difficult to see my children – a situation made increasingly irksome as I have a jabbed husband who doesn’t need to go through these hoops. I truly feel a second-class citizen as I, fit and health for 20 months, need to sit in quarantine for 10 days whilst he doesn’t (all because he submitted to a one-dose vaccine 2 months ago that it probably 2/3 less effective already if the figures are to be believed – do I sound pissed off, well, yes I am.

However, thinking I understand the ‘agenda’ I just cannot give in. I’ve had a pretty good life and there’s far less left than I’ve had. If the rest is pretty awful then so be it. I know that I would have to be tied down or sedated before I could take the jab so I really don’t have much choice at this stage.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Saying that revolt is pie in the sky implies that the system they are trying to build will be successful. I personally very much doubt that to be the case, it seems to be collapsing left right and centre. Entropy has taken hold and nothing on earth can hold that back.

It’s not a rational logical choice when you don’t have the full facts. With the full facts it’s very much NOT a rational choice.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

You wish. I hope that people will draw a line if the worst fears about a Christmas reversal come to fruition. But I’m not confident and no, I’m not changing my stance. But repetitive comments here (as opposed to new insights/data) aren’t going to do anything.

Just injecting a bit of realism.

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

This site has solidified my position that I will absolutely not submit to their tyranny and I’ll continue to share it to as wide of an audience as I am able. Do I wish I could do more, march into No. 10 and give Boris’ head a shake, sure, but until there are enough of us nothing will change. Posting facts and reason, joining others in a community of shared support and trade etc cannot be a bad thing.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

Hear hear.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

OK, I’m irrational if you like. Anything that people so evil want to force on me, I want to resist.
And I’m quite keen on keeping my immune system.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

“People talking” generally doesn’t accomplish anything, more so if it’s “people talking on the internet.” If this was any different, we wouldn’t be free to do it. That is, if there’s any effect, it’s sufficiently indirect that $people_in_power believe it doesn’t exist. Taking this for granted, it’s still important to deconstruct this cathedral of lies where basically everything is verbally inverted or described with factually inappropriate terms in order to fool people about it’s true nature. Eg, something as invasive as forcing everyone to dress in a certain, physically inconvenient way (‘face masking’) keeps being described as light touch measure. But it’s a seriously heavy-handed measure as it’s not only a direct government intrusion into a very personal space but also one meant to inconvenience its victims. Even when ignoring physical discomfort, it’s a constant, stressful reminder of the fact that A deadly pandemic is ongoing! – or – assuming a more heretical standpoint that You are something the goverment can step on at leisure. Keeping someone in constant, psychical and physical discomfort through suitable measures is a form of torture and not light-touch at all. Or to the point here: It’ll encourage people to get vaccinated. The implication here… Read more »

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Sorry – but you’re just preaching to the converted. Which is my uncomfortable point. It won’t change anything on its own.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Didn’t I write this in the first sentence? “People talking” generally doesn’t accomplish anything? So, what made you think I must be unaware of it? But there’s still some benefit in this: I’m assuming you’re familiar with the Free to do X but not free from the consequences of doing X idea. I’ve known this for years and I’ve never been particularly happy about it: If I have the freedom to say something and then, someone else has the freedom to beat me until I shut up, obviously, I didn’t have the freedom to say what I did say in the first place. But figurative examples like this usually don’t work well. In an article from months of ago on this very site, someone pointed out that these so-called consequences weren’t really consequences of the original decision at all but consequences of unrelated decisions of a third party. To me, this was a very enlightening observation as I hadn’t thought of this myself. Assuming I state (as I would) that “a woman is an adult human female” despite someone else threatened me in advance he wouldn’t react positively to that, that doesn’t make his reaction a consequence of my statement.… Read more »

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

I actually liked your original post, as I thought your points were valid. Then you throw in another great post which I had to digest somewhat to fully grasp the link to your original post. Well put btw. This community here is something I see as a very welcome bastion of sanity which I like to dip my toe into from time to time. That said, outside of here the insanity continues. I have been somewhat very occupied with the psychology of the masses. And like others, I have tried different ways to reach different people, with very very little success. I would estimate that with around 50 attempts, I have converted 1 person to see through the Covid narrative. My family are nearly all sceptics, so I just have to supply enough information to keep them that way. Yesterday I worked with a chap who only very recently got his 2 jabs. He has strong political views, and has some mild distrust of the institutions. I felt that if he was exposed to the censored side of the opposition to the Covid narrative, I may have my second convert back in to the world of sanity. Alas, it didn’t… Read more »

Jon Mors
Jon Mors
4 years ago
Reply to  Skeptical_Stu

I have a similar problem as I was a fairly die hard libertarian before all this happened (much more so now!), so in the eyes of my family I don’t any credibility – I’m just being stubborn (and they are all of the ‘I f****** love science!’ persuasion).

What your friend’s statement tells me most of all is that he needs to be convinced by somebody with authority (and that’s not you currently). I still find it hard to fathom that anybody confronted with a key few statistics about Covid (the 0.2% etc.,) could still believe that it is anything more than a nothingburger.

Skeptical_Stu
Skeptical_Stu
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon Mors

Your situation with your family is the exact same issue with my friend/colleague. He is the typical ‘Tory boy’ and massive Boris supporter. Myself, well… I was in UKIP having moved from the Lib Dems in ’09. Being more a classical liberal myself, like a distant cousin of Libertarianism.

I was twice a Parliamentary candidate, and once a Mayoral candidate for UKIP. And with not having mainstream views, I do lack credibility in the eyes of people who know me, or know of me, that are tapped in to the mainstream narrative.

I will continue to argue my/our corner. Though even if it wasn’t ‘uncredible’ me making the same arguments, I believe we will still struggle to change hearts and minds unless the masses hear it on the news…

Mike Oxlong
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

The trouble for the jabbed though is that 2 jabs might get you your vaxpass now, but come the inevitable booster jab – well, if you don’t get that, you go back to be classed as un-jabbed – see Israel, Australia etc.

Old Maid
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Perhaps the ‘moaning and cursing’ here won’t make a blind bit of difference, but the fact that it’s here to be read might. I’ve seen more and more unfamiliar user names popping up on here of late, and that’s to be welcomed. These comments are read far more widely than you might imagine. I don’t know what this site’s numbers are … perhaps that might be worth an immodest gloating piece one of these days …

And it can’t be forgotten that the jab passports aren’t for us: they are for the jabbed. It’s the jabbed who must make sure their info is up to date, that they have enough juice on their silly ‘smart’ phones, or even enough data to hunt for that recent email; it’s the jabbed who will suffer when the systems go down (which they will), and it’s the jabbed who must submit to every single jab directive in order to maintain their ‘status’.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Old Maid

Reading a bit between the lines, one can conjecture that at least a sizable part of the trouble mentioned in the article happened because vaccinated people weren’t able to prove their status due to technical malfunctions. That’s bound to annoy them.

Jon Mors
Jon Mors
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

There is a difference between a moral commitment to rationality, and making rational choices with the objective of maximising personal well being.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

You seem to be forgetting that no pandemic in history has lasted forever, especially not a fast-spreading respiratory disease. Regardless of what is or is not being done about it, globally speaking time has been working to our advantage from the very beginining. Sooner or later vaccines will go out of favor not because they are harmful or because the “brainwash” has been undone, but simply because they will no longer have any function due to both infection and death counts dropping thanks to natural immunity.

That is, unless a new virus is introduced on purpose. Not a natural “mutation” – if coronaviruses mutated into deadly diseases the humanity should be dead 100 times over; I think more like biowarfare or bioterrorist attack – which may also explain why the “lasting preparedness” restrictions are being introduced with such hurry. I’m thinking with the arrival of CRISPR technology it has become so much easier for everybody to manufacture new interesting bugs, and the whole rest is just the world’s “arms race” reaction to it.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

You are correct, surrender and compliance is always the smart strategy for any individual, until the cattle car comes for them. To delay that, you should start making a list of the anti-social subversives here so that you can inform on us.

It’s the rational course.

hilarynw
hilarynw
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I also had a very rational conversation with someone I respect very much who had decided to take the jab because of the pressures where we live (vaxx passports) and need to travel for family. She seems fine after 2 Pfizer and has accepted her decision although in an ideal world she would avoid vaccines and use natural therapies – however she has no feeling that there’s anything really wrong going on nor that the vaccine has anything negative about it. She did admit though that after researching it at length she came away not knowing what was right and what was wrong. She was trying to convince me that a decision that is right for the individual is the right decision. However, I did come away from this conversation feeling rather depressed. She admitted the passes and coercion were wrong but surely by ‘giving in’ to the process she is ensuring that these coercive measures will continue. i certainly don’t want this jab. I don’t trust it and I think it is making the whole situation much, much worse but really it’s become a point of principle and I just cannot give in to the whole narrative however uncomfortable… Read more »

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I am afraid that healthy people cannot imagine what living life with a permanent disability is like. When you feel well and strong it is unimaginable, but I can assure you, that people who are injured by vaccines would never want a healthy person to take that risk.

Some doctors are now noticing that adverse reactions are occurring several months after vaccination. No-one understands the mechanism for these types of injuries. It is outrageous (in fact criminal) to coerce the population into taking these risks.

Incidentally, GBS, MS and transverse myelitis are linked to all conventional vaccines as injuries, not just the new coronavirus “vaccines”. I can think of four people I know who took their own lives, (all at the age of about thirty) rather than carry on living in pain and disabled.

In addition, you will not get compensation, your injuries will be denied, and it will be implied that your condition is psychiatric, I’m afraid they add poverty and insult to injury.
Being locked out of participation in night clubs and holidays is a doddle by comparison.

TruthHurts2077
4 years ago

Berwick, Carlisle, and Newcastle. Plenty of other options just a short bus/car/train journey away. For the time being at least…

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Why do you expect us to click on that without a clue about the content?

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

I took the risk, it’s worth it. 🙂

Nearhorburian
Nearhorburian
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

It’s not about risk, it’s about wasting your time.

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

National Leader of Australia One giving a statement (over phone) to a judge during his hearing on being fined for not wearing a mask at an airport. Bit Common Law-y (something I’m not really that familiar with) but good to see people standing up against this nonsense.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Nearhorburian

Just too tired to bother. I post here a lot, so most people trust me. If I were going to ambush you with a corrupt link, I could easily add a specious line of comment to mislead my victims.

Mr Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Brilliant. Very inspiring. Thanks for sharing.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

Nice to be appreciated!

thinkcriticall
4 years ago

The Telegraph

Leaked Government report: Vaccine passports could fuel Covid and cost venues millions. The policy could push more people away from stadiums into poorly ventilated pubs and require large venues to hire 5,700 new stewards.

Thread:

https://twitter.com/Telegraph/status/1452741666712997888?s=20

wryobserver
wryobserver
4 years ago

The French are notoriously anti-establishment yet while visiting recently we saw no fuss over the need to prove vaccination status, nor any issues when people were turned away without. Mask wearing was done sensibly and without fuss. Given that anyone here can prove their status through the NHS app on a mobile, or print off a copy, I fail to see what the fuss is about. Storm in teacup, or am I missing something?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

You’re missing something.

chunky lafunga
chunky lafunga
4 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Missing the part about when you shout sieg heil to your fuhrer but besides that spot on mate

Jon Mors
Jon Mors
4 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

If you support vaccine passports you must believe the following: Being vaccinated reduces your ability to transmit Covid. IT DOES NOT, as has been known from the start, was mentioned by the Prime Minister the other day, and is admitted by the NHS. Being vaccinated doesn’t stop you from catching Covid. This is true, but funnily is not believed by many of those very same people who advocate vaccine passports! Being vaccinated doesn’t stop you from getting ill from Covid. Partially true. The vaccines seem to be stopping people from getting seriously ill from Covid, but you can still get symptoms. Even if the vaccine stopped you from transmitting the disease (which, as noted above, they don’t), excluding unvaccinated people from venues would at best stop other people from getting cold type symptoms (which of course they might still get from non-Covid viruses). It is a good thing to prevent Covid from circulating. At best, all that reducing the circulation of Covid would do, were it possible, is buy time to prepare in other ways. 2 years ago, maybe that would be an argument, but it isn’t now. And even if all of the above statements were true, it would… Read more »

Jon Mors
Jon Mors
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon Mors

Formatting went wrong. Odd numbers are the main point, even numbers are the rebuttal.

wryobserver
wryobserver
4 years ago
Reply to  Jon Mors

Cannot disagree, but I am not arguing the rights and wrongs of passports, merely that a fractious and usually non-compliant populace across the Channel does not seem to be making a fuss. Which, given the science such as it is, seems odd. That said, a recent local outbreak is clearly attributable to a singalong event. Perhaps a negative lateral flow test system might have stopped that. Passports certainly would not have.

What matters with SARS-CoV-2 is actually not so much whether you get it, but whether getting it means you get seriously ill. So the focus should be on this, as I have been arguing in my blog since April 2020. I recommended appropriate therapy back then. My suggestions were ignored. If you read my blogs I hope you will see that my views are pretty even-handed…

Stephanos
Stephanos
4 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

You are missing an enormous amount of numerous things: By acceding to a request that you have a certain condition or have complied with certain conditions you have given the state power to determine what you can do and in what circumstances. It is no argument to advance the proposition that this is like joining a club; it is the state that has decided whether you should be granted entry or not. It is possible these days to fine tune admission or deny entry based on many criteria. Have you been to the theatre three times this week? You can’t come in because you have exceeded your allowance. That is ONE example of how one will be coerced into certain behaviour. Have you attended a gym or gone swimming this week? Yes, you can have your dessert or get your steak. No, you cannot. Do not imagine that these things will not happen. They are perfectly possible and the coming tyranny, along these lines will be many, many times worse that of Nazi Germany or Stalinist Russia. It is the basic principle in this country and has been for centuries, only things that are against the law are forbidden. This… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Stephanos

Very well put

I have to say that I am very pessimistic for the future.” Indeed, if there are many people around who think like wryobserver, we’re screwed!

wryobserver
wryobserver
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Have a look at my blog to see the totality of my thinking!

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  wryobserver

Missing: You no longer own your body.

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago

Looks like Scottish gov’t is intent on obliterating all the small businesses that they didn’t manage to obliterate in all the previous draconian lockdowns. Well done Scotland. You are a shining example of a country bought by ? I think we all know.

banjojo
banjojo
4 years ago

For ”encouraged” read ”coerced”.