Is Plan B Imminent?
The Observer splashed this morning on the news that the Government is secretly planning to roll out ‘Plan B’, in spite of repeatedly claiming that it has no intention of doing so.
New evidence has emerged that the government is paving the way to implement ‘Plan B’ measures in England to combat the spread of COVID-19, amid warnings from health chiefs that a “vortex of pressures” is encircling the NHS.
In the clearest sign to date that Whitehall is actively considering additional measures, the Observer has learnt that the U.K. Health Security Agency (UKHSA) contacted local authorities on Friday to canvass their level of support for the “immediate rollout of the winter plan – plan B”.
The disclosure comes as senior doctors warn that operations are already being cancelled due to NHS staffing shortages and scientists warn of “a triple whammy” of respiratory illnesses this winter, with Covid, flu and respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), which causes cold-like symptoms but can be serious for children and older adults.
You can read the whole story here.
How much should we read into the fact that the UKHSA – the successor to Public Health England – has consulted with local authorities about implementing ‘Plan B’? Is the agency just preparing for every possible scenario, just in case, or is it doing the Government’s bidding ahead of new Covid restrictions being imposed?
The former, according to Chancellor Rishi Sunak, who was asked about the story on Andrew Marr this morning. MailOnline has more.
Rishi Sunak insisted there was no need to move to ‘Plan B’ to cut Covid cases today – after health chiefs discussed whether there needed to be an “immediate rollout” of tougher measures to combat a surge in cases.
The Chancellor insisted that the data shows that bringing back working from home and introducing mandatory Covid passports was not yet required.
His comments to the BBC’s Andrew Marr programme came after it was reported that the UK Health Security Agency (UKHSA) contacted local authorities on Friday to canvass their level of support for the “immediate rollout of the winter plan – plan B”.
An ‘official – sensitive’ document seen by the Observer sought opinions from the leaders and chief executives of councils across England to be fed to the Cabinet Office before then [sic] end of the day.
But Mr Sunak today said: “The data does not suggest we should be immediately moving to Plan B.”
However a leading Government scientist said “some kind of Plan B” was needed immediately.
Professor Adam Finn, who is on the Joint Committee of Vaccination and Immunisation (JCVI), said COVID-19 hospital admissions and deaths are rising, and warned against complacency in what he said is a “worsening” situation.
Meanwhile, the Labour Party is ratcheting up pressure on the Government to reintroduce restrictions, seemingly indifferent to the fact that the burden of such measures fall disproportionately on the least well off. MailOnline has more.
Shadow Chancellor Rachel Reeves said the Government should introduce its ‘Plan B’ to tackle the rising rates of coronavirus now.
Speaking on Marr, Ms Reeves was asked what Labour’s position was on reintroducing restrictions such as the wearing of face coverings and working from home.
She said: “Labour as a responsible opposition have always said that we would follow the science, and we’ve seen today that SAGE (Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies) are saying that some aspects of Plan B, like wearing masks on public transports and in shops, and also working from home more flexibly should be introduced.
“I think the first thing is the Government have got to do more to make Plan A work.
“If the scientists are saying work from home and masks, we should do that. So get A working better because the vaccination programme has been stalling, introduce those parts of Plan B.
“But there are also things not in A or B that need to be done, like paying statutory sick pay from day one and also better ventilation in public spaces.”
Asked directly whether Plan B should be introduced now, she said: “Yes, but let’s not let the Government off the hook with Plan A either.”
You can read both stories here.
The pressure on the Government to introduce ‘Plan B’ – and then, no doubt, another lockdown – is coming from the same sources it did this time last year: the NHS, SAGE, the DHSS, the Labour Party, the trades unions and, of course, the mainstream media. The Government is resisting the pressure for three reasons: (a) Matt Hancock and Michael Gove are no longer in the ‘Quad’ lobbying Boris and Rishi to lock down; (b) Boris is reluctant to squander the political capital he’s built up by supposedly avoiding the need for further restrictions by successfully overseeing a mass vaccination programme; and (c) the public mood has shifted a little, becoming marginally less pro-lockdown, as evidenced by recent polling.
But I’m not at all confident the Government won’t implement ‘Plan B’ – or worse – if infections, hospitalisations and deaths tick up again. Even though there’s zero evidence that mask mandates, vaccine passports and working from home do anything to suppress the virus, if daily infections climb above 100,000 the Government will calculate that it needs to be seen to be doing something, even if it will make no difference and cause enormous collateral damage. Consequently, we should all pray that infections start to tail off this week, as we know they will before long, just as they have in every previous wave regardless of whether the state introduces further restrictions or not.
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Just a cock up. Nothing to see here.
Yes nothing suspicious at all…
Quite so: we KNOW this because Toby keeps telling us!
Well knock me down with a feather, how surprised am I.
Are you alluding to a particular statement by Goering? I can think of a few, but none that hits October 2021 bang on the head.
AUKUS made me think of “guns before butter”, but we’re not quite at that point yet.
Right to the point.
Oddly enough, I saw a post on a Welsh website saying that Google Maps (mobile) was showing that Wales is already in a lockdown.. I tried it myself this morning just to check, and sure enough..
Well it isn’t.
When is Drakeford’s next announcement?
Who cares? Nobody cares, least of all here in Wales.
Anyway, Drakeford is to Starmer as The Mouth is to Sauron.
9/11 comes to mind when the BBC announced to the world that
‘building #7 has also collapsed’
when it was clearly still there in the background only to actually collapse some hours later.
Nighty night Mr Solitary Downticker from the afternoon shift in a darkened secret room in Cheltenham
That downtick for your comment makes me chuckle. I mean, how can you disagree with a factual statement – I was rewatching that footage only last week.
It’s been saying that since March 2020. I noticed that too, a few months ago.
What’s different this time? It is the same pattern.
I, too, hope they won’t.
But I certainly don’t support Toby’s assumption that his chum Boris this time will not give in as he does not have Wancock or Shrove nagging him. I do not believe at all that Wancock ever had any ounce of power in decision making. Shrove more so.
Gove got out of the Cabinet Office in time for Barclay to issue the apology. Neat move. Talk about “Teflon”.
Meanwhile in Florida, where they don’t do any of this bullshit – despite all the pressure, spin and misinformation from the usual suspects
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/usa/florida/
Even that got a downtick. Shows the mindset of these creatures.
“the Government will calculate that it needs to be seen to be doing something, even if it will make no difference and cause enormous collateral damage”
Making the reasonable assumption they know it will make no difference, this makes them wicked. Weak and wicked.
at least some of the high ups actively want digital ID. They could at least be honest about it.
I read a casual note in today’s tech news that Samsung smart phones that can store your personal ID are being released on the South Korean market this winter. Coming soon, VERY soon.
Just don’t buy one.
This is trivial from a technological stand point, and, in any event, we aren’t going to uninvent these things. The problem is the decline in the moral intelligence of our citizens and polity.
Do something for what though?
Seems to me as if plan B is actually a response to staff shortages combined with the huge backlog. In other words nothing to do with coronavirus.
And it makes sense really. Previous lockdowns have also been to relieve pressure in the NHS. Once the precedent they will do it again regardless.of the source.of pressure on the NHS.
That’s the policy monstrosity the British public has now endorsed.
I don’t want to defend the Labour party at all. They are betraying their principles with their support for VPs etc, but the backbench tories are in the main just as supine, stupid, or cowardly .
“we should all pray that infections start to tail off this week, as we know they will before long, just as they have in every previous wave regardless of whether the state introduces further restrictions or not.” All very well but there is one massive difference to all previous “waves” – a huge percentage of the population have been injected with a therapy that is clearly making infection much more common. In addition people who have been injected are actually getting sick – they are ill! This isn’t just tests anymore this is genuine symptomatic illness. What is the evidence I have for this? The only thing I am now willing to believe – my own personal experience. Until September I personally knew three people that had had symptomatic covid. In the last six weeks I have encountered another seven people with symptomatic illness – all with positive LFT, PCR and symptoms. What is the common denominator? They were all fully injected. I’m now happy to be called a conspiracy theorist and equally happy that people believe the “case” numbers will fall. I’m afraid I don’t -because I’m convinced that the injections are driving transmission and causing people to actually… Read more »
Completely agree, in the first 16 months of this I knew 3 people with covid (plus myself), since August I know 6, all double vaxxed.
Similar experience. I don’t know lots of people, but I probably know about 8-10 people that have had Covid, none very badly (the one that had it the worst complained about it being exhausting climbing the stairs – he’s overweight anyway, albeit not obese). At least half of those were post vaccination (indeed, one couple had it before vaccination, then again after vaccination – they still want their kids to have the vaccination even though they are sub 12y).
To add to the above, just spotted this comment from a typical moron under Spector’s latest doom and gloom advert for injection (on YouTube) “I am also worried although getting my booster tomorrow because a friend has been quite ill the past couple of weeks with Covid which he caught 3 weeks after his booster. He got booster among the first as he works for the Council face to face with clients. He caught Covid at a reunion in Edinburgh two weeks ago and all 40 people taking part have tested positive and all at least double vaccinated.”
Ill with symptomatic disease after three, I repeat three shots. 40 people all at least double vaccinated and they ALL have now tested positive. How much F***ing clearer can it be what is driving infection. The solution is equally obvious – stop injecting people and then allow some sort of natural immunity to develop (provided enough of the population still have an immune system that isn’t too badly damaged). Sorry for the rant but I’m at my wits end with this madness.
Amazing.
How asleep are these people? I don’t know what they get out of deluding themselves repeatedly in this way.
Evidence? Slightly different but at Ashton On Mersey school whose head teacher let slip on Sky News Friday that of 54 students off sick 30 of them were for testing positive (despite wearing masks these past two weeks) with an additional 14 having negative effects from the vaccine; could mean vaccine induced Covid, could be something worse.
At first glance that looks like 32% but only 400 of the 1,250 pupils have received the vaccine.
14 out of 400 compared to 30 (possibly a further 14, it was unclear) out of 1,250.
Someone cleverer than me (CSE Grade 1 in maths) can do the sums.
I’m not sure what you’re asking. Is there any information about how many of the 30 were vaccinated, how many of the 14 tested positive, or what’s up with the other 10 who make up the total of 54?
54 was my typo error, should be 44.
The head teacher said there are currently 30 students at home after testing positive and mentioned a further 14 (*their status unclear but ‘at home’, perhaps other illnesses).
Finally but separately “14 students are at home having had negative reactions to the vaccine”
Which is the higher ratio
30 (*or 44 depending) at home positive from total school population of 1,250.
Or
14 at home vaccine ill from population of 400 vaccinated?
Or perhaps what is driving the infections is just the winter season and the vaxxed people not isolating any more. The substantial difference this season is that those massively infected vaxxed people are about 10x less likely to die from covid than you.
Prove it.
Will Jones article from a day or so ago had the latest data which showed that a) the vaccines don’t prevent you catching/transmitting, b) the hospitalisation rate is lower in the vaccinated (but not 10x), and c) the death rate is lower in the jabbed (but not 10x). My problem with all of this data is it runs off a dodgy, debunked, fraudulent PCR test – so is utterly worthless.
Your first sentence is perfectly fine as discussed months ago.
The second is utter tripe.
Then why are 77% of all covid deaths double vaccinated?
Good question; makes the arithmetic troublesome…
@rayc – You have no idea of all the things I do to keep my immune system strong. I haven’t had a cold for 40 years, except once or twice lasting from morning until about 8pm on the same day.
In 18 months this is the sum of your learning as to what is going on? Jesus wept
Even if the second sentence were true it remains the case that nobody below 70 in decent health stands a great chance of dying from Covid, or even of being hospitalised. You are gaslighting.
Depending on the age and health of MadJock1 vaccine side effects are definitely something to consider. Lastly, long term effects of the vaccines are of course entirely unknown.
Certainly this Winter is the test of the mass medical experiment and it will be instructive to compare all cause mortality this Winter to last.
Short of them rushing through emergency legislation outlawing any further lockdowns (itself meaningless since any government could rescind or overule it just like the fixed term Parliament or ‘mandatory’ government targets for carbon reduction) I would not believe a word of it. The Observer is making a not particularly clever guess at what is coming based upon ministers failure to explicitly say ‘Will Not’, instead using the same old weasel words ‘don’t wish to’, ‘no plans for’ with the caveat ‘unless . . .this that or the other happens’. Anyway being such a wet, windy and cold Sunday I had intended to spend all day watching movie dvds but the site has been so interesting today that I’ve been on it for nine hours or more; six months ago I thought it was getting stale and repetitive (still is sometimes) and withdrew for a while. Now it’s time for my evening snifter and one rule I made many years ago was ‘never post when pissed’ so I wish you all farewell for today. For those who recently responded at length in todays Roundup comments about digitising the NHS, CynicalRealist, RickH and John I believe, I posted some updated information about… Read more »
” . . .‘never post when pissed’. . .”
Oh go on karenovirus – I will if you will! 🙂
Toby is forgetting the Govt are resisting the pressure as Dominic Cummings is no longer around.
The Banshee’s are getting the media coverage, same as they always have. The spineless fat man in No10 will invoke ‘Plan B’ before the month is out i’m sure. The only thing the useless toad has done that is of any use is inadvertently admit the double jabbed can catch and spread it just like the unvax’d.
Worse, if ‘vaccines’ indeed suppress symptoms they become AAA Superspreaders.
He won’t do anything until the jamboree in Glasgow has finished.
Here’s an idea, increase NHS capacity, treat early & offer voluntary support for the most vulnerable.
Oh & hold criminal prosecutions for those denying the public cheap effective treatments I V E R M E C T I N & Z I NC!
maybe something or not but when I went to book my desk for next week’s work I find the capacity has suddenly been reduced. Favoured desks I found I was not authorised to use.
We were told earlier in the year that Hotdesking had been disallowed, rightly so, Covid or not. Horrible idea.
Utterly drunk on power.
If you can’t see vax passports becoming a permanent fixture you need your head examining.
The slide continues 🙁
BTW Russel Brand has a great YouTube channel. He debates things without talking down to you. Unlike the MSM.
Personal ID stored on the phone, linked to your vaxx passport, and checked automatically by electronic gates coming to “market” within 1 year. Samsung already has a new line of phones in South Korea that allow storing of personal ID, and it is no hard guess for which purpose this “feature” will be used first.
P.S. It will be sold to and welcomed by hospitality business owners as a means to automate the mandatory checks and “relieve” their stressed workers from the “burden” of monitoring compliance.
Over ten years ago a local ‘quirky’ but well financed hotel would issue guests, generally business people and well to do parents of students, with a smartphone on arrival. This gave them access to car parking, their room, the gym and pool, dining and bar, room service, breakfast and checkout.
I don’t know if it was any good at supplying hookers or other below the desk requirements; some guests loved it but others complained on the internet about not meeting a single member of staff during their stay which they described as soulless and impersonal.
Just as well since the entire staff were summarily dismissed at the first mention of lockdown.
Russell Brand, like or hate him in the past (I’ve always liked him personally) is one of the most important speakers out there at present on many issues.
Russel Brand used to be a full on woketard uber PC liberal but, as with many on the left, he finally grew out of it.
While not yet to be compared with the sadly deceased Christopher Hitchens he is following the same path.
Subscribed on YouTube some months ago.
“a triple whammy”….belittling language describing serious health threats reveals their callous, condescending attitude.
The triple whammy is the first, second, and booster shot. Or, lockdown, masks and gene-therapy. Or, Build Back Better.
Councils will be happy to implement any old thing so long as central government gives them more dosh.
Oh please do us a favour – we always knew Plan B was Plan A.
That was never in doubt for a second.
The plan from the start. It was always about the passports.
Passports as the route to the money, yours and mine.
Fascist supporters yesterday: “You are fear mongering. There are no plans for a lockdown. You are a crazy conspiracy theorist!”
Fascist supporters today: “Of course there is a lockdown! Look at the cases! You’re insane!”
Some people are just idiots, and there isn’t much we can do about it.
Mandatory mask wearing, yet to be tested by the Courts, was once a conspiracy theory, as was vaccination of the non vulnerable and compulsory vaccination of health workers followed by the rest of us, also yet to be tested in Court.
Is it just me, or does Toby Young seem to be defending Alexander de-piffffel Johnson lately? He certainly appears to be sympathetic toward his position.
Anyone else notice a personality change among those that got multi-jabbed? Can we cancel Toby from his own website? JOKE.
Probably just being careful in the hope of not falling foul of the disgraceful ‘online harm’ bill.
Self-censorship hmm.
Of course, that bill isn’t law YET.
Your prompt response (before I had even pressed the ‘post comment’ button) prevented me from completing my post with
“but it still allows us to share what we know below the line as do seemingly pro government policy articles in the Daily Mail which allows their splendidly well informed readers to vent their spleen”.
That does puzzle me, the daily fail being one of the government’s worst covid propaganda machines, yet still allows unmoderated comments & clearly many haven’t bought into the official covid narrative.
How could have I replied to your comment before you posted it LOL?
I have no Idea but something similar happened with another post earlier. It was quite lengthy, but well within site limits.
When I pressed ‘post comment’ I got the message ‘this comment can no longer be edited’ (timed out) with the first part of my comment appearing as normal but missing the second part.
BBC news website now
Ms Millionairess Morgan the Welsh Heath Minister does not stick to the script and describes the ‘covid pass’ as a ‘vaccine passport’
Get with the programme woman they are Covid passes. The BBC dutifully help out and correct her error
Ms Morgan said ministers would be looking to “see how we can absolutely make the most out of the measures that we already have in place”.
“Is there any more we can do, for example, around working from home,” she said.
“Is there more we can do to make sure that people do actually wear their face coverings in public places indoors, and we’ll be seeing if it may be necessary to roll out the vaccine passports [Covid passes] to other situations.”
Haha! Missed that. Thanks. She’ll be Hancocked next week. Wonder who they’ll tell her to snog?
Eating each other just like lefties.
They will do it because after all it “saved the world” last year. So bolstered by this positive experience, they are keen on “saving the world” again. Rinse, repeat.
….
“…and for EVERYONE ELSE to take the vax to…erm…protect YOU, you have indeed, been fully conned! “
All whilst studiously ignoring the evidence from Scandinavia, Florida etc that the lockdown, associated releigous paraphernalia and mad vaxxing do the square root of f all to stop the spread of Covid( a mildly irritating ailment which 99.97% survive, mostly by not knowing they had it in the 1st place).
its pretty obvious they need harder lockdown, longer lockdown, medical grade masks, and more vaccines….because they’ve worked everywhere……..oh wait!!
Straight out of the horse’s mouth (pun intended)
Two Different Classes of People (Vaxxed and Unvaxxed) in New Zealand? “That is what it is, so yep!”
Always worry when a politician say “ nobody wants this to happen but…..”
Followed by “it is with heavy heart . . .”
Forgive me for asking Prime Minister but why do the protected need to be protected from the unprotected by forcing the unprotected to use the protection that didn’t protect the protected in the first place?
“Consequently, we should all pray that infections start to tail off …”
This is your best advice, Mr Young? That we should pray? What a stupid thing to say. You’re lucky I haven’t hit the gin yet …
Labour is no longer concerned with the less well-off, apart from those they consider a victim of real or imagined intersectional discrimination.
Labour has not been concerned with what is left of the working class for years, which is why they lost Scotland and finally the Red Wall which bozo is in serious danger of losing. The only question being is who to?
He may well be forcing them into the arms of the fabled ‘far right’ for want of an alternative. It’s happened before, elsewhere, and he might just make it happen again but this time here. What a tosser.
At the risk of swimming in a sea or red down votes, I would much rather Corbyn be in charge than these dishonest slags. If you are going to have a government that implements big state policies combined with ludicrous amounts of spending and Chinese style surveillance, better it be done by somebody who actually believes in it. I’m not a Corbyn fan at all, but at least he has his own principles and sticks to them.
Neither Boris nor Corbyn are strong men. Corbyn has shown evidence of convictions in the past (not ones I agree with; mostly not anyway) but he would still have been railroaded into lockdown and so on by Sage and the Starmers of this world.
That said, I think it would have been better if Labour were in charge, purely because the Conservative party could then have been free to criticise the government.
The Republican party is in this position in the US, and I’m looking forward to the Democrats being wiped out in the mid-terms.
It wouldn’t have mattered who was in charge. Both parties have been in lockstep since the beginning.
If you’re talking about Piers, then yes.
That is because the Labour Party in indifferent to the least well off.
I’ve no time for Labour or the MSM or the Unions or anyone else, but the Prime Minister has a huge majority and he is In Charge. It’s on him.
They are actually now subscribers to the theory of the ‘deserving poor’. They are 19th century Tories.
It is because Labour are communist, just like lockdown.
Neil Oliver: ‘Hey Government, we are not stupid’
Sadly, the trusting and obedient sheep/ lemmings are demonstrating otherwise.