House of Commons Covid Report Gets Some Things Right, Most Things Wrong

On Monday evening two House of Commons select committees – the Science and Technology Committee and the Health and Social Care Committee – published a joint report on the Government’s handling of the COVID-19 pandemic that was predictably damning. It was published in time to make the following day’s front pages – “Britain must learn from ‘big mistakes’ on Covid, says report”, reported the Times on its front page – but not in time for newspaper reporters or broadcast journalists to properly assess its findings. Not that that stopped all the usual suspects from using it as a stick to beat the Government with. For instance, Labour’s Shadow Health Secretary Jonathan Ashworth told the BBC that the “damning” findings showed that “monumental errors” had been made and called for the public inquiry – scheduled for next spring – to be brought forward.

The authors of the report say in the Executive Summary that the reason they’ve published it now, when there are still a large number of ‘known unknowns’ as well as ‘unknown unknowns’, is because we urgently need to learn from what the Government got right and what it got wrong so we are better prepared for the next pandemic, which might come along at any moment. But if it’s too soon to say what was a mistake and what wasn’t, that argument collapses. Indeed, a premature report that draws the wrong conclusions, e.g. that the Government didn’t lock down in March of last year early enough, which is one of the main findings of this report, is worse than useless since it may encourage future Governments to repeat the same mistakes.

I’ve now read the report – yes, all 145 pages – so you don’t have to.

What the report gets right

  • It criticises the Government for discharging elderly patients from hospitals into care homes without testing them first to see if they had COVID-19 and without putting any measures in place in care homes to mitigate the impact of that policy, as well as for the lack of PPE in care homes. The report says these errors “led to many thousands of deaths which could have been avoided”. Hard to argue with that, although one of the oddities of the report is that it criticises the lack of infection control in care homes, but not in hospitals. Weird, given that ~20% of cases over the course of the U.K.’s epidemic have been hospital-acquired infections.
  • The authors praise the RECOVERY trial for carrying out large randomised control trials of different COVID-19 treatments and identifying dexamethasone as an effective treatment. That too seems right.
  • The report highlights the disproportionately high Covid death rates among black, Asian and minority ethnic populations and acknowledges that part of the explanation for that may be biological differences between those populations and the white British population. Even acknowledging that genetic factors may be part of the reason for these disparities makes a refreshing change. Unfortunately, the report goes on to play down these biological differences and claims that social, economic and health inequalities are much bigger factors.
  • It criticises hospitals and care homes for issuing ‘Do Not Attempt CPR’ notices to patients/clients with learning disabilities and autism, often without the consent of their families. No argument there.
  • Rather than blame Boris and other senior members of the Government for the decision not to lock down before March 23rd 2020, the report emphasises that they were just following the recommendations they were being given by their scientific advisors. As I’ve pointed out before, that is correct.
  • The report is at least ambivalent about how effective a two-week ‘circuit breaker’ would have had in England in September of 2020.

It is impossible to know whether a circuit breaker in the early autumn of 2020 would have had a material effect in preventing a second lockdown given that the Kent (or Alpha) variant may already have been prevalent. Indeed such an approach was pursued in Wales, which still ended up having further restrictions in December 2020.

Unfortunately, having written this, the authors then go on to say:

It is likely that a “circuit break” of temporary lockdown measures if introduced in September 2020, and earlier lockdown measures during the winter, could have impeded the rapid seeding and spread of the Kent variant.

Make up your mind guys!

What the report gets wrong

  • The report claims that the U.K.’s Pandemic Preparedness Strategy wasn’t fit for purpose because it prepared us for “an influenza-like pandemic” rather than a more serious infectious disease that was spread, in part, by asymptomatic transmission. Professor Devi Sridhar, who gave evidence to the joint committees, is quoted as saying the mistake our Government made was to assume COVID-19 was “just like a bad flu”. In fact, it was like a bad flu, as judged by the latest estimates of the infection fatality rate, and the jury’s still out on whether asymptomatic people who test positive for Covid are infectious.
  • One of the reasons the Government didn’t lock down before March 23rd, according to the authors, is because its scientific advisors were guilty of following the flawed playbook of the Pandemic Preparedness Strategy. In particular, the initial advice was to try to ‘manage’ the spread of the virus through the general population rather than to suppress it altogether, which the authors believe would have been the correct strategy. They claim the Government didn’t realise this sooner because it had failed to learn the lessons of the SARS, Swine Flu and MERS pandemics and embed those lessons in its strategy. But, surely, one of the lessons of those pandemics is that national lockdowns aren’t necessary to contain pandemics – and that advice was embedded in the U.K. Government’s strategy document. The mistake the Government made was not to initially follow that advice; the mistake was to stop following it on March 23rd. The only time a government has tried quarantining entire regions as a strategy to mitigate the impact of a viral outbreak prior to 2020 was in Mexico in 2009 when something like a lockdown was imposed on April 27th in Mexico City, the State of Mexico and the State of San Luis Potosí. That was policy abandoned on May 6th because of the mounting social and economic costs.
  • Bizarrely, the authors of the report claim the reason the British Government didn’t abandon the Pandemic Preparedness Strategy sooner was because of “groupthink”. But, surely, the reason for putting a carefully thought out strategy document in place, incorporating the lessons from the mistakes made during previous pandemics, was precisely to avoid Government decisions being influenced by groupthink. And that approach was successful until mid-March, at which point Boris Johnson and his closest political allies abandoned it and decided to copy what other Western leaders were doing, i.e. lockdown. In other words, it was groupthink that was responsible for the disastrous U-turn, not the comparatively sensible initial approach.
  • One of the main conclusions of the report is that the Government should have locked down earlier than it did – that’s one of the “big mistakes” in all the headlines – and they quote Professor Neil Ferguson to that effect:

The initial U.K. policy was to take a gradual and incremental approach to introducing non-pharmaceutical interventions. A comprehensive lockdown was not ordered until March 23rd 2020 – two months after SAGE first met to consider the national response to COVID- 19. This slow and gradualist approach was not inadvertent, nor did it reflect bureaucratic delay or disagreement between Ministers and their advisers. It was a deliberate policy – proposed by official scientific advisers and adopted by the Governments of all of the nations of the United Kingdom. It is now clear that this was the wrong policy, and that it led to a higher initial death toll than would have resulted from a more emphatic early policy. In a pandemic spreading rapidly and exponentially every week counted. The former SAGE participant Professor Neil Ferguson told the Science and Technology Committee that if the national lockdown had been instituted even a week earlier “we would have reduced the final death toll by at least a half”.

  • In fact, it’s far from clear that “this was the wrong policy” or that it “led to a higher initial death toll”. The authors of this report take it for granted that – in the words of Professor David Paton – “governments can turn infections on or off like a tap by imposing or lifting restrictions”, when all the real-world data we’ve accumulated in the past 18 months suggests that is hopelessly naive (see these 30 studies, for instance). Governments around the world, including ours, have been guilty of wildly over-estimating the impact of non-pharmaceutical interventions on the spread of the virus.
  • In the British case, there’s no reason to believe that locking down earlier would have reduced the final death toll at all, let alone by half. As David Paton points out, the Czech Republic locked down on March 16th, imposed hard border controls and rolled out the first national mask mandate in Europe. Yet it had a second surge in the Autumn of 2020, prompting it to lock down again, and then an even bigger one in December, leading to a third lockdown. Cases surged again in Czechia in February and March of this year and, six months ago, it had the second-highest per capita Covid death toll in the world, according to Reuters.

More damning still is the comparison with Sweden, which didn’t lock down at all in 2020 and, as of today, is ranked 50th in Worldometers’ table ranking countries according to per capita deaths. The U.K., by contrast, is ranked 25th.

  • There are only three mentions of Sweden in this report, two of them in a single footnote. Any assessment of the U.K. Government’s response to the pandemic that fails to compare it with that of the Swedish Government – particularly one advocating we should have locked down sooner and for longer – doesn’t deserve to be taken seriously.
  • The report’s authors take at face value the “reasonable worst-case” scenarios that various modellers (including a sidekick of Dominic Cummings’) came up with in mid-March to show that if the Government continued to follow Plan A, i.e. the Pandemic Preparedness Strategy, the NHS was on track to become overwhelmed many times over. Here is Matt Hancock giving evidence on June 8th 2021, appealing to a prediction of “slightly below” 820,000 deaths, absent a lockdown:

I asked for a reasonable worst-case scenario planning assumption. I was given the planning assumption based on Spanish flu, and it was signed off at Cobra on January 31st. That was a planning assumption for 820,000 deaths. […]

In the week beginning March 9th, what happened is that the data started to follow the reasonable worst-case scenario. By the end of that week, the updated modelling showed that we were on the track of something close to that reasonable worst-case scenario. I think the numbers were slightly below that, but they were of a scale that was unconscionable.

  • Rather than just take those projections at face value, couldn’t the House of Commons committees have interrogated the models a little bit? The report’s most damning criticism – that the Government’s delay in imposing the first lockdown resulted in thousands of unnecessary deaths – is contingent on not questioning those forecasts. In light of SAGE’s over-estimate of the likely uptick in cases following the easing of restrictions on July 19th of this year, as well as its more recent over-estimate of hospitalisations this autumn, wouldn’t it have been prudent to scrutinise those models? That’s a particularly glaring omission, given that the authors of the report criticise members of the Government for not challenging the scientific advice they were given: “Those in Government have a duty to question and probe the assumptions behind any scientific advice given, particularly in a national emergency, but there is little evidence sufficient challenge took place.” Why do “those in Government” have a duty to do this, but not those serving on select committees who are supposed to be holding the Government to account?
  • In case further evidence is required that the authors of the report have credulously lapped up the doom-mongering of SPI-M and others, consider this passage:

It seems astonishing looking back that – despite the documented experiences of other countries; despite the then Secretary of State referring to data with a Reasonable Worst Case Scenario of 820,000 deaths; despite the raw mathematics of a virus which, if it affected two-thirds of the adult population and if one percent of people contracting it died would lead to 400,000 deaths – it was not until March 16th that SAGE advised the Government to embark on a full lockdown (having said on March 13th that “it was unanimous that measures seeking to completely suppress the spread of COVID-19 will cause a second peak”) and not until March 23rd that the Government announced it.

  • Note the appeal to an IFR of 1% when even Neil Ferguson’s team at Imperial College, which predicted 510,000 deaths if the Government stuck with Plan A in its famous March 16th paper, assumed an IFR of 0.9%. In fact, a WHO bulletin put the IFR at 0.23% as long ago as October 2020.
  • This unwillingness to interrogate the modelling data that underpins the report’s conclusions is particularly odd, given that the authors acknowledge the limitations of modelling elsewhere – “Models can be useful and informative to policymakers, but they come with limitations” – and at one point try to blame the delay in lockdown down on an “overreliance on specific mathematical models”! Again it’s a case of one rule for me and another for thee.
  • The report compares the response of the British government in the first months of the pandemic unfavourably to that of various East Asian and South East Asian governments, but overlooks the fact that many Asian countries that successfully suppressed infection by closing borders at the beginning of 2020, and rolling out successful test, trace and isolate programmes, are now in the grip of devastating waves in spite of having vaccinated large swathes of their populations. That suggests their non-pharmaceutical interventions only succeeded in postponing the impact of SARS-CoV-2, not avoiding it. (It also fails to note that these supposed role models didn’t issue stay-at-home orders, close schools or shutter businesses in their initial responses to the pandemic.)
  • The report criticises the Government for stopping community testing in March 2020 due to PHE’s lack of testing capacity and praises Matt Hancock for setting the 100,000 tests a day target to galvanise the system into massively ramping up that capacity. Indeed, the authors claim that had a proper test-and-trace system been in place at the beginning of 2020, the initial lockdown might have been avoided. That, too, is a shaky assumption. After all, the Government has spent £37 billion and counting on a ‘world-beating’ test, trace and isolate programme but that didn’t stop us locking down for a second and third time. The authors of the report acknowledge this point, but blame Baroness Harding for not doing a better job of running NHS Test and Trace. That seems a tad harsh, particularly as the authors repeatedly say – Uriah Heap-like – that it’s not their intention to apportion blame for the mistakes they’ve identified.
  • The report praises the speed at which the Nightingale hospitals were created, although it acknowledges that, for the most part, they weren’t used. But the reason they weren’t used is partly because the NHS lacked the trained employees to staff them with – ICU nurses, for instance. Perhaps if they’d been built with less speed – at a cost to the taxpayer of roughly half a billion pounds, don’t forget – the Government would have had time to spot this obvious flaw in the plan. Or, more realistically, those aware of it from the start would have had more time to organise and obstruct this expensive PR stunt.
  • The authors praise the Government – and the NHS – for at no point running out of ICU beds and becoming overwhelmed, as the health system did in some parts of Italy during the first phase of the pandemic. But given the enormous cost of protecting the NHS – both in terms of seriously ill people who were either discharged or went untreated, as well as the collateral damage inflicted by the lockdowns on the economy, education, family life, mental health, etc. – it’s impossible to say whether prioritising the NHS at the expense of absolutely everything else was in fact the right strategy. To bottom that out you need to do some cost-benefit analysis, of which there is precisely none in this report.
  • The report concludes by praising the Vaccine Taskforce under the leadership of Kate Bingham and highlights the ‘success’ of the U.K.’s vaccine programme – “one of the most effective in Europe and, for a country of our size one of the most effective in the world”. But they ignore the fact that the efficacy of the Covid vaccines is much less impressive than the initial trial data indicated and looks less impressive with each passing week, something Dr. Will Jones has been meticulously documenting for the Daily Sceptic. So was the massive Government expenditure on the development and trialling of home grown vaccines, as well as procuring hundreds of millions of vaccines manufactured overseas, worth it? One notable omission from the report is any acknowledgement of the risks associated with a fast-tracked vaccine approval process – it just breathlessly praises the speed with which vaccines were made available to the public and expresses the hope that “in the future this could be conducted in much shorter time still”.

Conclusion

This is a pretty feeble document that seems to have been written with an eye on getting Jeremy Hunt and Greg Clark – the chairs of the two select committees involved – on the BBC news rather than making a serious contribution to understanding what the Government got right and what it got wrong over the past 18 months. It’s hard to argue with some of its findings, but its headline conclusion – that the Government should have locked down earlier – isn’t based on any serious analysis, let alone a careful consideration of the evidence that seems to point in the opposite direction. Talk about groupthink!

I hope the official inquiry, when it comes, is a bit more intellectually weighty than this.

Stop Press: Quite a funny Twitter joke by Burnside – at least, I think it’s a joke.

https://twitter.com/BurnsideNotTosh/status/1448148576513798144?s=20
Subscribe
Notify of

To join in with the discussion please make a donation to The Daily Sceptic.

Profanity and abuse will be removed and may lead to a permanent ban.

133 Comments
Oldest
Newest Most Voted
Inline Feedbacks
View all comments
Julian
4 years ago

I hope the official inquiry, when it comes, is a bit more intellectually weighty than this.”

Ha ha ha. Very funny. Maybe there’s some planet that other people live on where that will happen. Every powerful institution on the fucking planet is up to their necks in the Big Lie. They will go to their graves defending it, and we will go to ours fighting a losing battle against the Satanists.

DevonBlueBoy
DevonBlueBoy
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Any official enquiry will be a whitewash.
1 Turkeys don’t vote for Christmas
2 The only member of the establishment who has spoken out against the madness is Lord Sumption so he won’t be chairing it, he’s far too objective.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

We had destroyed hospital infrastructure over 30 years including specialist infectious disease hospitals. We only had 40% of the beds of 1990 and when we opened the Nightingale hospitals there was no one to work in them. There was a shortage of PPE. VanTam was in charge of preparedness (!!!) but it has never been mentioned https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2017/12/06/tom-jefferson-the-uk-turns-to-witty-vallance-and-van-tam-for-leadership-revolving-doors/

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

I should have said, of course, that when Vallance and VanTam were appointed Jeremy Hunt was still Secretary of State for Health and Social Care – I have a vague memory that Chris Whitty was interim Chief Government Scientist before Vallance. Of course, Hancock, who followed Hunt was already closely associated with Klaus Schwab.

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago

I don’t think the Nightingales would ever have struggled for staff, there were plenty of people willing to work there. Take a look at the floor plans, it’s pretty clear they were only meant to function as death farms but the poor people they were going to intern didn’t bother the NHS since they had been told to stay at home until they basically couldn’t breathe, and died there. Not to mention the numbers were far fewer than anticipated planned.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

VanTam the Boston United fan who should know better as a 17 year old died after collapsing in a youth match involving Boston United

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Please read Steve Kirsch’s (an MIT engineer, Silicon Valley entrepreneur and philanthropist, co-inventor of the optical mouse) findings on adverse events and deaths in the USA post vaxx. It makes for an eye watering read. You can find him on GAB, rumble, expose.

mojo
mojo
4 years ago

There were plenty of staff for the Nightingale hospitals. There were just not enough sick people. If this farce was truly a pandemic we would have seen every qualified medic come out of retirement to help those who needed it. We would have seen doctors visiting homes and ambulances regularly driving our streets.

The reality was utter silence. Silent streets, silent hospitals and silent medical staff. So many retired doctors who put their names forward were told they were not needed. So many nurses on furlough and those who were mot spent their time making tiktok videos. AND still the public didn’t ask questions. We have become a consumer society, entitled to nothing and played like skittles.

Dodderydude
Dodderydude
4 years ago
Reply to  mojo

Nail on head.

Tom Blackburn
4 years ago

Excellent analysis. It’s a very poor report. MPs basically vindicating themselves but the average dum dum reporter/MSM consumer will swallow the headlines only.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

Why even call it the media anymore or refer to the people as reporters. Its The Propaganda Machine.

It’s not there to inform, it’s there to tell you what to think and do.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

Msm will do. I think that’s what most of us read when one puts that.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  stewart

There’s a revolving door between Fleet Street and Downing Street.

IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Oh, that Fleet Street as was, and its old hacks still existed! This would have been killed dead a year ago.

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago
Reply to  Tom Blackburn

We all must turn off MSM, stop listening to it on radio or reading their nonsense in newspapers and magazines. Plenty of Covid info on Expose, Dr Mercola, Robert Kennedy’s daily email, the Highwire, Del Bigtree, Dr Peter McCullough and all the FLCCC now prescribing ivermectin and other repurposed drugs. Just heard today on one of the anti vaxx Covid sites that pilots, stewards, and passengers are dropping like flies during or after flights. Emergency landings increasing. So many people with cardiac conditions and reoccurrence of cancers and viruses post vaxx. Won’t here a word of this on msm.

Mike Yeadon
4 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

True, but the only people who’ll consume such material are, by definition, those already “red-pilled” or full-on conspiracy theorists.
Two years ago, I’d have derided a conspiracy theorist. Now I’m all ears, in listening mode!

Less government
4 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

Talk radio week day mornings has a good dose of common sense ..

Mark
4 years ago

I’ve now read the report – yes, all 145 pages – so you don’t have to.

Thanks – someone had to and I sure as heck wasn’t going to!

Professor Devi Sridhar, who gave evidence to the joint committees
they quote Professor Neil Ferguson to that effect

There’s part of the problem right there, taking evidence from clowns masquerading as “scientists”.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Devi “100% safe” Sridhar?
I wonder if they took evidence from Carl Heneghan? Ruddy politicians!

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Of course they didn’t, they weren’t looking for evidence!

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Ferguson’s mother was an educational psychologist and his father, a priest.

Poor lad. Maybe that explains his sense of ethics – as in somewhere east of London.

Less government
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

WEF puppets

Julian
4 years ago

“Rather than blame Boris, or other senior members of the Government, for the decision not to lockdown before march 23rd 2020, the report emphasises that they were just following the recommendations they were being given by their scientific advisors. As I’ve pointed out before, that is correct.”

Well it’s correct that he was given that advice, and he followed it. But it’s not correct to say he wasn’t to blame. The “only following orders” defence doesn’t wash for the Big Man in charge.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

It follows years of political and bureaucratic ineptitude and corruption. They were looking for salvation from the industry and tainted appointments when they needed beds and staff. The appointment of VanTam, Vallance and Andrew Witty in 2017 showed any difference between Pharma and state had been dissolved. We were sold on the imbecile myth that salvation lay with the vaccine industry in the case of a novel disease: in the end you have the collapsed time span for developing products which were neither safe nor effective, and could not be expected to be in the circumstances. In March Gates was telling us that when we were all vaccinated and ID’d we could return to normal – and that was the plan which was both incompetent and criminal. The whole British establishment was to blame but Johnson was particularly repulsive. https://www.bmj.com/content/370/bmj.m3099/rr-5

RickH
4 years ago

The appointment of VanTam, Vallance and Andrew Witty in 2017 showed any difference between Pharma and state had been dissolved.”

as Tom Jefferson pointed out at the time in an opinion piece in the BMJ.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Yes, indeed, I cited his article with link in an earlier comment.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

The classic system of blame avoidance widely used in business is in clear display.

In business, when management want to carry out some decidely unpopular action, they drag in independent consultants who give their independent advice – namely whatever the management wanted to do. The consultants leave with the cheques cashed. The management can them blame the consultants when TSHTF and the consultants can blame management (advice not folloed etc, etc). Result, no one is held responsible.

I am Spartacas
4 years ago

Report should have contained one page with just two words on it …

We Failed

FBgLrDAX0BAV6bd.jpg
Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

I’d like to see two more:

“I resign”

An apology as well wouldn’t go amiss, either….

bringbacksanity
bringbacksanity
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

While he is on holiday….

Bella Donna
4 years ago

Another freebee no doubt!

TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

Johnson and his bunch haven’t failed. They’ve achieved what they set out to do – destroy our country for our replacement by Islam.

Mike Yeadon
4 years ago

Astonishing.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  Mike Yeadon

I think he/she/it has had one jab too many.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  I am Spartacas

“We succeeded” – in scamming the public to act as unpaid guinea pigs for experimental Big Pharma drugs.

It always has been about the kerching.

John
4 years ago

The official enquiry will go one of two ways
i) set up to fail like the 9/11 commission
ii) will fulfill its role completely
For case i) the committee will consist of yes people
For case ii) it will be chaired by a neutral judge with representatives from a wide range of relevant professions and experience. Calling a wide range of witnesses.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Case ii) is utterly implausible. Almost every single powerful public and private instution on the planet, and most of the world’s population, bought into the Big Lie. Why on earth would they admit they are wrong. We (the sceptics) will be persecuted and vilified for decades.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I can’t remember the last truly independent inquiry.

peyrole
peyrole
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Final draft is already sitting on some senior civil servant’s desk.
Nothing will ever come of these ‘enquiries’, they are just for show.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago
Reply to  peyrole

It was on display in the bottom of a locked filing cabinet stuck in a disused lavatory with a sign on the door saying ‘Beware of the Leopard.”

Mike Yeadon
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

We won’t be around that long. The small number of victors will write history.

TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Mostly carefully chosen people of colour.

Arfur Mo
Arfur Mo
4 years ago

Is white a colour?

dpj
dpj
4 years ago

Sadly an entirely predictable report.
As I said on here when the wee dictator announced there would an ‘independent enquiry’ for Scotland the enquiry is only independent if it starts with a blank piece of paper somewhere like January 2020 and works forward from there. It needs to look at all possible options (do nothing, lockdown earlier, copy what Sweden did etc) and produce a cost benefit analysis for each.
This report has definitely started from the point that lockdown was the best solution.

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  dpj

Yes and that’s the most depressing part. Sets us up for a potentially rough winter. How these committees can have deferred to Ferguson is simply beyond me. Mystic Meg would probably have been more accurate. But many thanks Tony for taking the time and trouble to analyse the report. I hope that some of those who post on this site remember that when they criticise you.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

How these committees can have deferred to Ferguson is simply beyond me.” Not beyond me. He tells them what they want to hear.

bOrgkilLaH1of7
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Ferguson is Imperial College bought and paid for by the B&MGF

So it all ties back to where Julian?

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Sorry, fat finger mistake, I meant Toby of course!

TheRightToArmBears
TheRightToArmBears
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Why doesn’t this website allow one to edit it or turn off predictive errors?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  dpj

Personally I would have settled for what Belarus did, allowing me to continue watching my sport etc. No evidence of a disaster there up to this march in their all cause mortality, as reported on DS

Encierro
4 years ago

Russell Howard (British comedian) sings the praises of Ardern when he is on a visit to NZ. I think a lot of the readers based in that country may have a different view on her. I would like to see more comments on the video questioning his view.https://youtu.be/_wrhqfECZ-Q

MummyKnowsBest
MummyKnowsBest
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

🤮

Superunknown
Superunknown
4 years ago

Mistakes were made, but it wasn’t me, pass the buck, and now memory hole all the inconvenient information that will incriminate us. Nothing to see here, move along.
Official government enquiry.

TheGreenAcres
4 years ago

Interesting that there is no mention of lack of preparedness within the Sainted NHS for not having sufficient supplies of PPE.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

The NHS is like the CCP in China.

As.an institution it is above criticism and unassailable. At most you might be able to criticise some very specific elements within it, in a limited way. But one cannot officially declare the institution as anything but wonderful and the basis for all our wellbeing.

Quizzical
Quizzical
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Well, unles I am much mistaken Hunt was in charge for many years……..’nough said

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Quizzical

Yes … Jim Naughtie’s misplaced consonant was never more appropriate.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Did the lack of PPE make the slightest difference? It’s not spread by touch or droplets, The lack of UV air treatment systems maybe made a difference.

Mike Yeadon
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

PPE doesn’t work, not to prevent respiratory virus transmission.

stewart
4 years ago

That lays the foundation for a swift and brutal lockdown the next time Bill Gates, sorry, I mean the World Healrh Organisation, declare a pandemic of a pathogen that kills 0.2% of the infected.

That will be whenever they want to roll out a new medical technology that would take too long to get approved through the normal regulatory process. Or whenever pharma profits are not deemed quite high enough.

In other words lockdown some time in the future 100% guaranteed.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw_ywVLveHY

David Davis: Sweden’s pandemic response arguably better than Britain’s lockdowns

TJN
TJN
4 years ago

Part of a concerted and dishonest attempt by the Establishment to rewrite the history of lockdowns.

These frauds and time-servers mustn’t be allowed to get away with it. The Truth will, in time, bite you Jeremy Hunt.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  TJN

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mR5fJtLAYM

Seems the comments are where you’ll find news and above it you’ll find the MSM narrative

TJN
TJN
4 years ago

Yes, I saw The Telegraph comments earlier – perhaps more people than we realise have woken up to this shit.

amanuensis
4 years ago

The original plan wasn’t ‘do nothing’ and rely only on herd immunity.

The original plan was to properly lock down the most vulnerable and those testing positive, having symptoms or having been in close contact with someone positive/symptomatic. This plan was modelled by Neil Ferguson etc and shown to offer the most benefit. Eventually this became known as ‘Great Barrington’, but it was intrinsic in the original pandemic modelling, and in the early modelling of the different outcomes that could be achieved for covid.

The problems were:

  • We didn’t actually do this — instead we left the vulnerable to themselves, and, worse, infected homes full of vulnerable folk with seeder cases from hospitals.
  • After not doing anything for a few weeks, we went for the nuclear option of locking down everyone. The modelling showed that this wouldn’t have much additional effect, but they did it anyway.
Chicot
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

Agree with most of that except that no one, no matter how vulnerable, should be locked down against their will. Give advise but leave it up to the individual to manage their own risk, except in places where that isn’t possible, like care homes.

helenf
4 years ago

Any mention of the Midazolam cull in there?

helenf
4 years ago
Reply to  helenf

Or the adverse impact of serious nhs and social care staff shortages caused by the use of flawed pcr tests and ridiculous rules around the need to self-isolate when symptomless or if you’ve been in contact with someone who tested positive?

RickH
4 years ago

I hope the official inquiry, when it comes, is a bit more intellectually weighty than this”

I’m all in favour of optimism. In general. But ….

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Indeed. Do you think the writer believes that sentence or it’s just been trotted out for good form?

I mean, point me to an inquiry which admitted that someone fucked up big-time, and I will show you an inquiry where those conducting it want that to be the result. As there is no-one powerful pushing the sceptic case anywhere on Planet Earth, what deluded fool could possibly believe an honest inquiry is possible?

Nigel Sherratt
4 years ago

Even if HMG was panicked into stupid decisions based on the deluded advisers’ ‘reasonable worst case’ by 13 March 2020, deaths peaking on 8 April 2020 should have caused another rapid U turn.

Adamb
4 years ago

the jury’s still out on whether asymptomatic people who test positive for Covid are infectious.”

And until they return, if indeed they ever do, any sensible person would assume that the very notion is utter bollocks.

TJN
TJN
4 years ago
Reply to  Adamb

I am surprised at Toby writing something like this.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Adamb

Yes … I don’t think a total lack of substantiation counts as a ‘jury absent’ scenario.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  Adamb

I do know of one case of infection by someone almost asymptomatic – loss of taste and smell only. Infected others in the household.

nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago

The main conclusions are the ones that Hunt has been delivering on a regular basis for 18 months. We should have shut down earlier and copied the far east. As regards test and trace, it has been an expensive fail because the tests are unreliable and non diagnostic. Most of the public are unaware of this.

So the test and trace is only really effective for those who fancy a bit of time off. Many in the practical and productive sectors wouldn’t consider touching a test, some are forbidden from doing so. A complete farce and Hunt’s panacea is really complete nonsense.

GlassHalfFull
4 years ago

It feels we are part of the resistance and everyone else are collaborators.

bringbacksanity
bringbacksanity
4 years ago

Hubris. The word best describes these fools who think they could / did / will control something that they know precious little about.

Norman
4 years ago

Thanks Toby, for the trouble you took to read and report so swiftly. I was trying, and failed, to find the scientific reasoning behind their conclusions for the number of additional lives “the government were responsible for” for not locking down sooner.
I think you have confirmed that this is an opinion piece and to call it a report gives it status that it doesn’t deserve.
Nevertheless it seems to support the prejudices that many public commentators already have, and who have been spouting off uncritically all afternoon.

Jane G
Jane G
4 years ago

I’m grateful to Toby for scrutinizing this report and giving us the gist.
We (well, here anyway) are unlikely to be conned into another lockdown for a Coronavirus again.

But wait – what’s this on the radio? They are seeding the notion that global warming is making a return of the Black Death extremely likely.

Jesus, Mary and Joseph. They really, desperately want to keep us scared don’t they! Would you lock down for the Plague or just get some flea powder?

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

“The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence clamorous to be led to safety) by an endless series of hobgoblins, most of them imaginary.”
― H.L. Mencken, In Defense Of Women

RickH
4 years ago

Mencken has been one source of cynical realism in this shit-show.

debra
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

They probably have several vials of the potion ready to release…🙄 I will be stocking up on Flea Powder in the morning and I won’t be accepting any gifts of fabric or blankets. 😎👍🏻

webtrekker
4 years ago
Reply to  Jane G

Jesus, Mary and Joseph. ‘

… and don’t forget the wee donkey!

ellie-em
4 years ago
Reply to  webtrekker

…and bent politicians and bent scientists…

BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago

With the benefit of so much hindsight now, and gazillions of gigabytes of data to hand, they turned to Ferguson, Hancock, Cummings and NHS chief Stevens to write the fairy tale for them. “We got the approach right, we were just guilty of not doing more of it”. Jesus wept. I wonder what kind of narratives they left out? In their attempt to sound critical they’ve just washed their hands and blamed it on a lack of, what exactly? Masks on kids? Cancers missed? Depression and drug abuse? Domestic and child abuse? Tearing apart of what is left of the social fabric and the vital SMEs that support it? Ripping up of any notion of a balanced budget? These people are deranged and their little debates when writing this must have been laughable. The notes contain written evidence from more knowledgeable and pointed individuals. I’d focus efforts there. Links at the end of the report include Written evidence in there from [Tess Lawrie ](https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/36858/html/) [Us For Them ](https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/18209/html/) [Henegen and Gupta ](https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/36911/html/) And a good one on the pointlessness of cloth masks. https://committees.parliament.uk/writtenevidence/36758/html/#_Toc73630293 Search for any terms in there regarding the origin of this and it never mentions it. So… Read more »

RickH
4 years ago

Yes. The evidence is ‘selective’ to be absurdly polite.

caravaggio57
4 years ago

No one could expect a report on a health related matter run by this Chair of the Commons Health Committee would manage to mention the multitudinous failures of the previous SOS for Health in preparing the NHS for anything.

Aunty Jen
4 years ago

Toby writes:  ‘The report compares the response of the British government in the first months of the pandemic unfavourably to that of various East Asian and South East Asian governments, but overlooks the fact that many Asian countries that successfully suppressed infection by closing borders at the beginning of 2020, and rolling out successful test, trace and isolate programmes, are now in the grip of devastating waves in spite of having vaccinated large swathes of their populations. That suggests their non-pharmaceutical interventions only succeeded in postponing the impact of SARS-CoV-2, not avoiding it‘ His implication is this is such killer evidence that such NPIs merely delay the inevitable, that the entire case for approaches taken by many Asian countries can be dismissed in a sentence. This ‘overlooks the fact’ that his ‘suggested’ conclusion is obviously not true. If you compare most SE & E Asian counties with the UK on cumulative COVID deaths relative to population you’ll notice the UK is dramatically worse than all of them.  (See image below) & COVID deaths data from here In particular South Korea and Taiwan – 50 & 35 deaths per million vs the UK’s 2,024. No fair-minded observer would look at this… Read more »

Screenshot 2021-10-12 200136.png
Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  Aunty Jen

I live in Thailand and up until the ‘jabs’ rollout we have a very low death rate from covid. – double figures for the whole of 2020.

However, as soon the jabs hit the death rate shot up. Just as it did in many other countries.

strange that? or not?

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

Or not! 🙄

Aunty Jen
4 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

Dear Judy, thanks for replying 1) What do you think about Toby’s dismissal of Thailand’s good results during 2020 and early 2021? Do you think it’s fair? Why do you think he dismisses it and the success of all E and SE Asia? He’s quite keen on promoting Sweden. 2) I can understand it would have been alarming and distressing to see Thailand’s COVID death rates shoot up in Jun & Jul 2021 after such a long success, and it is true Thailand and some other E&SE Asian countries did see big COVID death rises around Jun, Jul, Aug – the same time as vaccinations ramped up. As such it is tempting to wonder ‘are COVID vaccinations causing these COVID deaths?’. But looking at the data from E&SE Asia shows that it almost certainly is not, in line with data from the rest of the world. If you focus on the period Feb 2021 to current date; a) it’s clear to see; South Korea, Singapore, Taiwan, Laos, see no real rise in COVID deaths as their vaccinations ramp up Vaccinations Deaths This is similar to most other countries in the world – the vaccination smooth ramp ups do not match… Read more »

RickH
4 years ago

The list of ‘Witnesses’ is fascinating in terms of the lack of recognisable critical minds (although I haven’t checked out each reference), whilst :

“Heneghan, Professor Carl (Director, Centre for Evidence-Based Medicine; and Professor of Evidence-Based Medicine, University of Oxford); and Gupta, Professor Sunetra (Professor of Theoretical Epidemiology, University of Oxford) (CLL0117)”

are bundled into one reference in the ‘written evidence’ section.

Of course, members of the HoC in general have been almost entirely complicit in pushing the Narrative. I haven’t counted the number of committee members that voted against the ‘temporary’ provisions, but there may be a couple.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

So no mention of Belarus?
No cost-benefit analysis.
And no reason to take this report – or the government – seriously.

ellie-em
4 years ago

Jeremy Cccccc…Hunt. One of the 2 chairs. Enough said.