Deaths Among Teenagers Up 56% Since Vaccine Roll-Out Began
A post on the Daily Exposé on Thursday showed concerning statistics from the Office for National Statistics (ONS) indicating that deaths among teenagers over the summer have increased significantly on the previous year, coinciding with the vaccine roll-out.
I dug into the data a bit and I have to say I agree that it looks worrying. I’ve plotted above the deaths among 15-19 year-olds by week for 2020 and 2021. (Unfortunately the equivalent data isn’t available for previous years as prior to 2020 the breakdown was into 1-14 and 15-44 year-olds.)
The marked divergence around week 23 broadly corresponds to when the vaccination programme among the age group was being ramped up, as indicated below.
Between weeks 23 and 37 in 2021 there have been 252 deaths among 15-19 year-olds in England and Wales. This compares to 162 in the same period in 2020, an increase of 90 or 56%. That’s a lot, and deserves some kind of explanation.
Importantly, there is no similar rise among younger children aged 1-14, as the plot below shows. Interestingly, 2020 was a low-mortality year for this age group, presumably due to fewer deaths due to road accidents and such like. 2021 has had lower mortality again, illustrating how little threat COVID-19 is to children.
Covid cannot be blamed for the sudden rise in deaths among 15-19 year-olds in summer 2021, as the ONS data shows that over the period there were only nine deaths with Covid in that age group.
So what has suddenly increased the mortality rate since June in 15-19 year-olds, but not in younger children? It coincided with the rollout of vaccines, which are known to cause rare but serious side-effects in young people, especially myocarditis (heart inflammation). Is this real-world evidence that over the summer the vaccines killed nine times as many 15-19 year-olds as Covid did – 81 versus nine? If not, what are the other possible explanations and how likely are they?
I suggest that the medical authorities make an urgent priority of investigating the reasons for the sudden uptick in deaths among teenagers since June, before rolling out any more vaccines to young people.
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All going according to plan then, this is a planned genocide.
The Oxford Global Depopulation Agenda 2025
https://www.bitchute.com/video/LyLretdObH0d/
300 victims is hardly a genocide.
Wait till the medium and long-term effects take over!
It’s been one year and I’m still waiting…
Eh? they only started vaccinating teens a few weeks ago.
What exactly are you waiting for? Are you waiting for this:
The trouble is that this frequently quoted graph undermines itself, as there is no attempt at standardization against the number of jabs.
If that graph is not significant it implies that very few people have jabs normally. “If” only ~1% of the population is taking vaccines in a year and suddenly 60% do then one might argue you would expect an uptick of 60x. Is that the case?
The baseline is zero jabs for the same period last year. There were about 147K vaccinations for this period of those under age 18 based on the underlying ONS study.
Official NHS data found in the ‘Covid-19 weekly announced vaccinations 01 July 2021 – revised’ which can be downloaded here, and accessed on the NHS website here, shows that between 8th December 2020 and 27th June 2021, 147,123 people under the age of 18 had received at least one dose of a Covid-19 vaccine.
It has been 10 months.
Already we’ve seen substantial numbers dead and significantly injured.
We’re currently at a ‘substantial’ increase in deaths (4 standard deviations above normal for this time of year), of which only a tiny fraction can be attributed to covid.
It is likely that this background increase will continue for some time — but we’re likely going to get a significant increase again with the next covid wave, due about December.
If we’d only vaccinated the most vulnerable we’d have gained nearly all of the benefit in terms of lives saved, and we wouldn’t have had anywhere near as many vaccine complications, we’d currently have lower cases (due to the vaccines increasing the likelihood of an individual becoming a superspreader) and we’d have had much slower viral evolution towards vaccine escape (although I’d accept that this would still continue in other countries that overvaccinated.
It is a complete disaster, and completely avoidable had the authorities not had this mania that the only solution was to vaccinate the world.
You & I regard this as a disaster. The perpetrators think it’s going very well.
Agreed.
There’s a reasonable argument to vaccinate the vulnerable, with short life expectancy already, with an experimental vaccine, if they are fully informed and not coerced.
Because it has gone beyond plausible argument and is happening across the world with the media driving it I am convinced this is foul play not incompetence.
In a word..prick.
Colossal prick.
Waiting for what ? The UK rolled out jabs like smarties from December 2020, when the “2nd wave” was spluttering, and thousands died in the months following. Was this just a coincidence ? If it was then why has the same pattern been followed in dozens of other geographical regions. Joel Smalley and others have crunched countless stats on this.
I repeat, and in your case, I fear the emphasis would be on the narcissism element…
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One year is not long. Maybe there’ll be a indication this winter. Empirically, if the vaccines are good there should be very few COVID deaths and other respiratories back to normal.
You are one sick puppy…
Quite right. They love a bit of hyperbole on here.
And here you are – why?
p.s. Nothing can be said which could come close to the government/media/pharma hyperbole that has utterly devastated this country for 18 months.
Tru dat. But I come here for facts. Manslaughter, yes, murder, maybe. Genocide no.
Hard to tell yet. But it’s a concern. So, Stanley Johnson says the population needs to be 10-15M. How do I ensure, if this can’t be stopped, I am among the survivors?
I have no issue with population control via consent of birth control but I do not believe it is necessary. There has been some analysis that predicts it would naturally top out at ~9.5Bn worldwide. With the progress of technology it’s reasonable to think we can, assuming the will is found, make it sustainable.
That’s the most outrageous statement ever made by anyone in the history of the world.
You said the right word there: victims. Yes Ray, they certainly are victims, and to be so flippant about numbers shows you to be quite a sick piece of shit.
The excess deaths comparing 2021 to 2020 might only be small (here 90 up to week 37 and not 300 as you say,) and so not satisfy the strict definition of “genocide” (killing large numbers of a particular nation or group), yet for the families concerned there will be no happiness to learn that their child has died for a pointless cause, to satisfy “health experts” and government and media hysteria. The death of ninety 15-19 year olds, if they have indeed lost their lives to a Government encouraged “vaccine”, must surely count as a wicked crime in anyone’s moral code – what will these deaths have achieved? Nothing but unhappiness for the families involved.
Stop nit-picking about people using the word “genocide” and see the bigger picture.
We need close data on the deaths here. Are they suicides? Accidents? Are some of these young “at risk” groups whose underlying conditions accelerated after Pfizer? Deaths within 14 days of the first injection?
But the same trend after Pfizering the young was famously seen in Israel, of course.
But surely there would be suicides and accidents in 2020. The whole point of comparing 2021 with 2020 is to show any increase or decrease in the rate of death. In a 1992 BMJ paper Temple and Sykes used a cusum chart of new asthma cases in a Welsh community. By knowing the underlying average weekly rate of asthma cases, they were able to spot a sudden change in the rate of asthma cases from the cusum chart. They later learned that open-cast mining started at the time the rate of new asthma cases suddenly increased. The top graph of this article “Deaths Among Teenagers Up 56% Since Vaccine Roll-Out Began” essentially shows a cusum chart of deaths in 2020 and 2021. A simple adjustment of the graph would give a graph akin to that in the Temple and Sykes paper. (It is easier for the eye to detect changes from the horizontal than changes from a slope.) Nevertheless it is quite clear from the given graph that something started to happen to deaths in the 15-18 age group at about week 18 in 2021. It is not up to me to explain why the rate of deaths in this… Read more »
He isn’t nit picking the definition. Someone claimed it was a planned genocide. With no basis in fact. It undermines our case against what’s happening.
rayc was criticising the use of the word “genocide” rather than “planned genocide”.
I would agree that 90 excess deaths to the end of week 36 is not “genocide” as the word might usually be used. I might also disagree with the claim this is “planned”. However, does the Government really care whether our views are measured, respectful, well-argued?
If any Government advisors are looking at the data of excess deaths as presented here, can they argue that continuing with “vaccination” of this age group is a “proportionate” response (“proportionate” is a word that Government likes to use, presumably because it appears in the 1984 Health Act; see section 45D). To carry on “vaccinating” this age group, and to encourage these young people to be “vaccinated”, if there are any doubts as to the safety of this “vaccine”, might not constitute a “genocide”, but it is at the very least morally questionable!
I wouldn’t rule it out. I hope to god that’s not the intention but thinking the unthinkable is not wrong. But … it’s not a given by a long way.
One unnecessary death is too many! Wasn’t that the reasoning used to start this whole horror show? They shouldn’t have been medicated and any related death is murder.
That was always horse shit just like all the care, concern, care for diversity. All political BS, none of them believe it. Part of the Psy-Ops. There isn’t much scope for diversity when they want everyone to vaccinated or locked-down.
It is a start
Agreed, just mass murder. That should make you feel better you utter twat.
The genocide is across all ages. It runs into many thousands and more like millions across the World. You might want to do some more due diligence. What about the many thousands of elderly who were intentionally culled back in Spring 2020 for starters? It was orchestrated across many countries at the same time. And sadly most likely we haven’t seen anything yet..
Overwhelming Evidence of Midazolam Murders By Government Policy
https://www.thebernician.net/overwhelming-evidence-of-midazolam-murders-by-government-policy/
Click link for full detailed analysis
It’s certainly mass murder. And they’ve not been at it long,
You are one sick puppy!
On this Daily Sceptics Vaccine Safety Update, where they get doctors to analyse the data from the authorities and lay it out for us to read in a clear format, we get this (from July so numbers are naturally higher now): Summary of Adverse Events in the U.K. https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2021/08/02/vaccine-safety-update-10/ According to an updated report published on July 21st, the MHRA Yellow Card reporting system has recorded a total of 1,102,228 events based on 331,240 reports. The total number of fatalities reported is 1,517. Key events analysis: Acute Cardiac = 13,184 Myocardial Infarction & Heart Failure = 692 Anaphylaxis = 1,258 Herpes = 3,933 Headaches = 104,255 Migraines = 10,244 Blindness = 359 Deafness = 519 Spontaneous Abortions = 381 + 11 still birth Vomiting = 14,511 Facial Paralysis incl. Bell’s Palsy = 1,465 Strokes and CNS haemorrhages = 2,378 Guillain-Barré Syndrome = 407 Dizziness = 32,440 Tremor = 10,859 Pulmonary Embolism = 1,800 Deep Vein Thrombosis = 1,299 Seizures = 2,524 Paralysis = 978 Vertigo/Tinnitus = 8,667 Reproductive/Breast = 30,747 Way more than 300 victims there – how many of these injuries will lead to premature death? We don’t know, because this is an illegal, immoral, unethical and unlawful medical… Read more »
Correct. Leave loose language to the Covid fanatics, and find a better word.
This makes me sick to my stomach, the worst part being that it will in all likelihood be ignored apart from us.
We’re in the middle of a cult. Have you noticed generally declining health all around you (amongst the jabbed)? I have. Everyone seems to be getting ill. It’s really quite astonishing – what are we witnessing?
Yes, I feel I’m seeing that too. Could be age group, but suddenly a lot of people seem sick, some very seriously.
Yes, me too but throughout this plandemic I’ve hardly come across anyone with anything worse than good old-fashioned flu, and not anyone who has died from the deadly killer plague that surrounds us all.
Its interesting that you mention this – every one of my family have been double jabbed – I am the only one to have declined the offer of both jabs so far – these last few weeks they have all been coming down with all kinds of sore throats, coughs and sneezing and heavy cold-like symptoms – so far (touch wood) I have not had a thing and I am in daily contact with all these family members who have become ill – as I type one is sniffing and sneezing with a cold on the other side of the room to me – I am out and about every single day of the week mixing with all kinds of people – last week a shop assistant who I know has been double jabbed looked terrible – said she thinks she has a bad cold and there was a lot of it going about at the moment – as she was sniffing and wiping her nose and telling me all this I was probably less than a meter away but so far (touch wood) I have had nothing at all. Could it be that I am not jabbed? Is this… Read more »
Unjabbed and been suffering with a head cold for the last few days.
It’s specifically c19 (whatever that means!) that jabbed people I know have been getting very sick with – a few of them hospitalised. Full disclosure: As an uninjected individual, I came down with a cold that was worse than any I can remember a week ago and had me floored for two days, I’ve read this is happening a lot. C19 on the other hand was a four day nothing-burger in July.
Just out of interest, how were you able to determine the first was the lurgy and the second not? It is such a quagmire, with the tests being nonsense and the symptoms so varied we can hardly know what is c19 and what isn’t anymore…
It’s a very interesting story I will attempt to recount. I’m a teacher who has been incredibly sceptical about all of it pretty much since day one and have generally viewed all aspects of it, including testing as psyops/fraud. So even when testing became expected in schools I said no way. Then, I had to take a school trip to Blackpool at the end of the summer term and had a really shit day feeling very out of sorts and had to hide in a cafe all day. Initially I thought it may just have been the effects of boredom and the so-called Pleasure Beach but when I got gone I developed a high temp and felt rather unwell. The next day I felt achy and had a sudden realisation that I couldn’t taste or smell anything. This was most embarrassing as I’d been mercilessly taking the piss out of this symptom for over a year. But it was quite striking! So I very, very, very reluctantly did a lateral flow test and it said positive. I then felt ashamed off myself, threw it the fuck away and didn’t tell big brother about it. Cutting long story short, four days… Read more »
I think we discussed this the other day, but my experience is interesting to compare/contrast with yours. Myself and my wife came down with what I, like you, would describe as the worst cold/flu I can remember a few weeks back, along with several family/friends (but unlike for you, this seemed to be the covid cold). And we all I think experienced the quite striking loss of taste and smell, which is not something I can recall from past colds.
Because of my own sheer personal cussedness I still have never taken a test, but some of the other family/friends who had what must have been the same bug took tests with varied results, but a number of SARS-CoV-2 positive results (both lft and pcr).
So I’m pretty happy to assume that we had the covid19 cold bug last month. Generally the younger folk were affected much less, but strikingly in most of the older pairings it hit the women much harder, which might be chance, but certainly is the other way round from most colds and flus.
Just as an observation, with a heavy cold, i nearly always lose my sense of smell and taste so I don’t believe it’s just covid that causes this. Fortunately I haven’t had a bad cold for a while now and no flu either although i never have the vaxx that they offer me every year (i’m in my 70s).
Another one here who recently came down with a rather heavy bout of something. I was presenting as pneumonia symptoms, until the loss of smell kicked in just as I was starting to recover (The loss of smell endured for 10 days – a week after other symptoms had passed). Then my work colleague who I sit next too for 6 hours a day everyday, came down with it too. Both of us unjabbed. It was bad, but (just about) not enough to keep me from working. My work colleague was the same, struggled but made it to work. That was until his elderly mother became poorly. Though she only presented as cold symptoms. She is doubled jabbed. And she took a test, and tested positive. My colleague and I just won’t engage in this madness, so we never took a test. My poor colleague had his wider family organise an intervention, convinced he had ‘deadly’ Covid. He wouldn’t budge on taking a test, so then his uncle called our boss and reported him. That forced my colleague to be in ‘isolation’ for 10 days, and wasn’t allowed to work. What really gets under my skin though, is that I… Read more »
What you describe in your last para worries me also. I don’t relish the prospect of spending lots of time in the proximity of the jabbed.
Which means you now have a nice hearty case of natural immunity, acquired with only 4 days of sickness, and would have no need of a jab to “keep you safe”. What might be happening to you now, and I am without any medical qualifications and only surmising, is that re the cold you had for 2 days – it could be just that, a cold, there is one doing the rounds apparently, alternatively it could be your immune system with its natural immunity encountering the delta variant and mounting a defence. I had similar experience in late August and wondered was it a cold or was it covid.
“symptoms so varied we can hardly know what is c19 and what isn’t anymore…”
An absolutely crucial point.
My daughter-in-law (double vaccinated) has just come down with cold symptoms. SARS?? Lateral Flow x2 says ‘Yes’. PCR says ‘Yes’.
But – bearing in mind the recent findings about the falsity of a high percentage of hospital diagnoses, and the essentially flawed nature of the tests, can we trust the specificity of those tests, not only in terms of normal false positives, but also in terms of picking up other corona viruses?
It’s a total mess.
In my family my double-jabbed husband is fine, and the unjabbed kids and I have a few sniffles but nothing to shout about. It’s so hard to draw any conclusions at all… We probably also need to take shedding into account.
Unjabbed here, and suffering a stinking cold that I caught off my unjabbed daughter.
I have had colds Dec 19, May 21 and now. That’s pretty typical. They have been very normal colds with sore throat, sneezing and what have you. So far no ‘rona in our family. Even extended family.
My fully-jabbed sister has covid, she has a bit of a cold and a headache but otherwise okay (she’s in her 70s). she did a test (being responsible she said) and got a positive result from both lf and pcr. her husband is okay with negative lf. Both her grandchildren have tested positive for covid, one buzzing around with no symptoms, the other feeling poorly i gather. Both their parents have tested negative, You do wonder what the tests are finding. It has always been one of the weird things to my mind with covid that you can get 50% of a household apparently suffering from it and the other 50% fine. When my family had flu about 25 years ago at Xmas time, we all went down with it. Doesn’t seem to happen with covid, do they really know what it looks like?
Ah, spike protein shedding. I wonder if pine needle tea really protects against it?
The worst bug I’ve had is still years ago. I’ve had the odd cold the past couple of years, but nothing to write home about.
I use Ivermectin after extended close contact with the recently jabbed. Works perfectly. My wife and son in the same environs got to feel quite poorly with sore throats and tiredness.
Does this work? I’m completely willing to drink pine needle tea all day if so.
I think you need to not overdo it on the pine needle tea – you can drink too much of it so do research first
would quercetin capsules do a safer job???
I’ve read about that Hugh – I stood in the car park of my local M+S recently gazing at their pine tree and wondered if that particular variety of needle is the one you need to make the tea. Someone could make a small fortune if they could do something to produce capsules with the same effects as the tea!!!
Apparently the needles need to be picked at the right time of year when they’re young. I havne’t been using it enough to say if it works, so won’t have been using it at any rate. I got some online, but I don’t know if any shops sell it.
Nothing to see here, people, move along.
And given that ‘the medical authorities’ are the primary donor to their own adverse events database, which has been publishing a steadily rising toll of broken or curtailed lives since the end of 2020, waiting for those butchers to pay attention would seem rather pointless.
Coincidence, nothing to do with the gunk.
I’m sure they’ve all actually died of ‘coincidence’, or at least that’s what it will be called by TPTB.
‘Extremely rare’ coincidence at that, of course!
99.9999% occurrence would be described as rare if it went against an MSM narrative.
More like acceptable collateral damage, and they can always say these teens were the unfortunate exceptions who would have died from COVID-19 anyway (they may be even right about it, but it still does not ethically justify accelerating this process, of course… for any sane person at least, but sanity has long been abandoned).
They won’t be right about which teens might have died from covid. The ones that die from covid have leukaemia or morbid obesity and number very, very few indeed.
The ones that die from the jabs seem to be fit and athletic.
They’ve actually died ‘after a short illness’ as the media like to put it these days.
Yes, I’ve noticed that phrase. Also been used in an email I have just received about a bellringer in my branch who has died. Not that I have details but it crossed my mind.
What on earth are we witnessing?
It’s as though something is accelerating people’s conditions.
And we have plenty of eminent scientists explaining to us the many mechanisms by which this may be happening. It’s unbelievable.
The Ryan Cole’s the Peter McCullough’s – I’d be going with their trusted opinions every day of the week before I would be relying on the advice of the “scientists” trotted out by HMG in support of their medical experiments.
After a short coincidence…
Ah yes, the 2021 deadly coincidence pandemic. I wonder if lockdowns and masks stop coincidences from happening?
It really has been unprecedented in its happenstance.
IF this was Covid, you can be sure we’d never hear the end of it. It’s be plastered all over Deepti Gurdisani’s twitter.
The silence here deafening
Holy crap. That’s horrendous.
Surely, if The Times is reporting on the “mysterious” 25% increase in CV events, this is worthy of reporting? When do we get cause of death info by age group? I’m going to put money on it being a combo of blood clots and heart attacks.
Are they actually administering the vaccine already to 12-15 year olds, by the way? I know they said they would but my son’s school (up to y8) hasn’t said a bean about it. And my daughter’s mysteriously cancelled their planned jabbatoir session at short notice, and have been very quiet on the reschedule.
Hope you don’t find it rude but is your daughter receiving the clot-shot?
Hell no! I’ve been sending her TikTok’s of vaccine damaged teens, and that seems to have done the trick.
I’m keeping my son off school on the days it’s scheduled to happen and tore up the consent letter his form tutor gave him. I don’t want him anywhere near any of it. Especially if this goes the way I’m expecting it to.
My daughter boards, so I can’t extract her. But on the plus side, she’s not alone. Only about half of the children have been brainwashed (and I would have thought, being upper middle class twit central, that 95% of the parents are bejabbered….but enough of them have had bad side effects to refuse it for their offspring which says a lot as to the AE rate)
That’s a pretty good ratio – indicates that some people still have functioning powers of reason. I’d love to known the ratio at my school but doubt I can get them to tell me! I suppose things take on a different complexion when it’s your own children!
She says that her brainwashed friends are telling her she’s stupid, but she counters that THEY are stupid to risk myocarditis and the shakes.
TikTok tip: send them John Stokes (handsome athletic young man, articulate…going to have a big impact on y10 girls). I also sent her one on Maddie de Garay (from the hearing where her mother told the story)
Noted! But it means I’ll have to acquaint myself with TikTok which seems like an awful proposition!
That’s what I thought, but then I discovered Sylvanian Dramas and have never laughed so hard. Though I was drunk.
I will take that recommendation. And not really know what to do with it.
That’s encouraging news, Sophie. 🙂
Wouldn’t it be great if peer group pressure worked in reverse for children than it does with adults, so that the majority of them reject being jabbed and only a small minority sign up to it. We can but hope!
What I do know, encouragingly, is that kids are sharing vaccine injury videos quite a lot via TikTok. I’ve overheard some extremely interesting conversations between kids whilst earwigging in classes!
John Stokes – that’s a good one to influence the younger girls. He’s handsome, athletic and articulate.
I also sent my daughter Maddie de garay press Conference TikTok.
Always thought Tiktok was load of rubbish up to now – never thought that anything useful could come of it – who knew?
I guess if parents have a child planning to give Gillick consent against their will, parents could simply say – if you do that, no more holidays ever.
The Government is applying coercion.
Parents can play that game too.
I suppose they could; we’re quite fortunate in that almost every one in our circle of friends has said no, so our son is surrounded by good role models. I shudder to think of situations where children are being pressured by their own parents against their will.
Hmm – that would mean the parents not getting any holidays either…. I am not sure if you are serious about coercion – but I think we need to get right away from that way of thinking, otherwise we are no better than those trying to control us. I think open conversations and indeed showing evidence of what can happen to you are better ways to go.
This seems unfair. Parents are entitled to coerce their children, provided it is in the children’s genuine interests. That’s rather the point of parenthood and ages of consent etc.
Admittedly, coercion is not necessarily the best approach in any particular situation, but here Sandra Barwick was specifically referring to responding to a situation of external coercion.
(Just to be clear – I didn’t downvote your comment.)
The AE rate is likely to be high, considering the Pfizer age 12-15 trial which out of 1131 vaxed children delivered one life-threatening emergency https://www.nejm.org/doi/10.1056/NEJMoa2107456 and a child Maddie de Garay who was paralysed within 24 hours of jab 2 but was just logged as having abdominal pain https://www.skirsch.com/covid/VRBPAC.pdf#page=19 . The proportion of children who have had COVID will be a lot higher now than it was in the trial, maybe double, and we know that AEs are higher, perhaps by a factor of 3, for those who are already naturally immune.
I think ultimately, Pfizer are going to be done for fraud over Maddie de Garay (and other stuff) – how can that possibly be “abdominal pain”? – which will make them liable for damages and the US government will find a way to claw back all the US sales. But the victims won’t get any of it.
PS this will take at least 10-20 years though.
If anybody hasn’t seen Maddie, here she is:
https://rumble.com/vjis89-12-year-old-wheel-chair-bound-after-covid-vaccine.html
Harrowing, absolutely appalling parenting. Delegating these decisions to your children, seriously. Many on these boards (and many others) sounded the alarm at anyone who would offer their children up for a clinical trial in this way, sadly this is the result we warned them about.
Shocking but wholly unsurprising to anyone paying attention to these dangerous jabs which are completely unnecessary for children.
Ok they are well meaning seemingly educated people, they brought their children up to want to do the “right” things and help others or “get life back to normal quickly for everyone” as in this case, but leaving the decision up to a 12 year old is a disgusting abdication of their parental responsibility and I’m terribly sad for that poor little girl and her siblings who now have to live with that parental decision.
It’s heart-breaking stupidity.
As for the trial, how many were in it 1000? Half in a placebo (probably not given previous form)? So this happens to 1 that we know of, and it’s still granted approval? How many maimed if we extrapolate that ratio out? It’s sickening!
They are all now in a massive medical trial – God only knows what the outcome is going to be.
You think
Covid vaccine: You can’t sue Pfizer or Moderna over side effects (cnbc.com)
“Under the PREP Act, companies like Pfizer and Moderna have total immunity from liability if something unintentionally goes wrong with their vaccines.”
And in the UK
Coronavirus vaccine: Pfizer given protection from legal action by UK government | The Independent
They could still be charged with deliberate fraud. And the immunity from liability could be repealed retrospectively if the public mood changed sufficiently.
“Unintentionally“ is the key. If they hide side effects, or fail to investigate them properly, then there is intent there. It’ll be a battle no doubt, and you can guarantee they will have put NOTHING in writing that would incriminate (drummed into anyone in any pharma company that is terrified of being sued). You are going to need whistleblowers most likely to get justice.
Yes – today was the tenth day of jabbing 12 year olds up in schools in the UK. Started last week on Monday. Where have you been? In Finland they’ve been jabbing 12 years up in schools since the beginning of August. However, I haven’t heard of any schoolkids snuffing it, and you’d think we would have by now if the jabs were that dangerous. Oh, yes, I know…. wait ’til Winter, ADE, blah blah blah. If schoolkids in the UK were dying in droves, left, right and centre, I don’t think even the ‘Mainstream Media’ would be able to cover it up. Surely people would talk and match it to the ‘vaccines’? A good campaign could be to stand close to schools with placards stating that teenage deaths have risen 56% and suggesting the ‘vaccines’ could have something to do with it. Put up notices on lamp posts, on noticeboards, everywhere. Question is, how can you really prove someone has died from the ‘vaccines’? It’s the same with Covid – how can you really prove someone has died ‘of Covid’? Not easy. Perhaps impossible. Anyway, my outlook is that there is no point in giving people, say, under the… Read more »
It’s just a couple hundred people – not so difficult to cover it up. Especially when the parents were those who actually wanted their kids to become vaccinated. Not so difficult to rationalize it as a freak accident in such a case, and they will not run to the media to publicize it (and if they do, they might just have no luck to find any listeners there).
They SAY the children are being jabbed. But there’s no press coverage I have seen, unlike with older groups. Or reports on uptake.
It may be sensitivity around showing children in the papers, but that doesn’t explain the lack of reports on uptake.
There were some photos on the first day of masked middle class children in the South accepting their injection. I feel so disturbed by this, I don’t know what to do. What are we actually witnessing?
ugh. I was hoping that they were prevaricating. Because they had second thoughts about murdering 80+ children (which is the number that will die, at a minimum).
I worked it out to be around that mark too. It’ll be one of the points I’ll make when I meet the governors!
Even on only one dose?
No to be fair, I think that was based on data from 2 doses in the US (3 weeks apart). The sudden heart impacts will likely be limited after 1 dose. But what is the point of 1 dose?! People are putting their kids through this so they can go skiing….pretty sure France and Switzerland are not going to accept 1 dose.
And if they accept 2 doses, are they going to stipulate how far apart they should be given? The whole thing is a nonsense.
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According to a local comment on a FB page uptake at on eof our upper schools is such that they schedule a 2nd day. Maybe that’s why dates at 2 other schools have been cancelled?
Or is it like one of the mothers was told due to a lack of qualified staff?
They won’t die in droves because they’re only administering one of the jabs (which they have spent the last 10 months telling us is pointless, thereby proving this isn’t about protecting anyone). They will make sure they get the second one (this is in the consent leaflet) when the heat is turned up a bit in the winter I imagine. It’s fucking disgusting.
I wonder what will happen in terms of brain function and hence exam results in the cohort who have been jabbed and will sit state exams at GCSE and ALevel next summer? if the jab impacts their mental functioning as a result of stuff in it crossing the blood brain barrier as Ryan Cole has stated it has the capacity to do?
Greta, is that you??
The numbers are so small, you wouldn’t necessarily hear of it but the point is the increase which seems most likely to be the vaccines, given the way that it tracks the same line but could also be suicides … I’d be surprised if teenage suicides weren’t up in the last 18 months.
I know there’s a lot of unease amongst school leaders but yes, sadly, the programme is underway. At my large comprehensive secondary school (I’m a teacher), I challenged the ‘vaccines’ being administered at the site with a very strongly worded and carefully referenced letter that certainly made them stop and, I think, take legal advice. I am scheduled to have a meeting with the head and the board of governors – necessary, they said, because I claimed in my letter that it was a potential crime. Which of course it is. I think I’ve been successful only in as much as the school has made it clear that they will only accept parental consent (contrary to the wishes of the psychopaths in government) and an email was sent out to all staff insisting that they do not under any circumstances try to influence or advise students on their decision. I like to think this was because I said in my letter that if they did so, they were breaking International law and committing crimes against humanity. But there’s a strange unease about it, I think deep down, everyone with the slightest bit of sense knows this is wrong. I despair.
Don’t despair.
You gave them pause, which is no small matter with such a juggernaut, and what you did was superb given the pressure to conform.
Thank you. I’m fully committed. I reckon I’ve only got a few months left of my career left anyway if things go the way they have in Australia, the US, and much of Western Europe. I’m on borrowed time, so I intend to go down with a fight.
We will need you. To set up a school for the unvaccinated under the new apartheid system that will evolve.
PS Our system will be the one with abundant healthcare, because there will be ample doctors and nurses (if NYC is anything to go by), and fewer heart attacks and strokes to deal with.
True! All of us in great health – I’m sure that will go down really well with the other lot!
*I really should avoid this ‘them and us’ talk – I think this plays into the psychopaths’ hands…
Good, when does this start?
Would be more than happy to do so, if they let us!!
Well, we’ll be in ghettos before they eventually open the camps, so it might work for a while :-).
Yeah, they’ll be the golden times.
Well done for taking a stand.
I think a lot of people know how wrong this is. But they can’t bring themselves to call it out for what it is.
I’m assuming (hoping) that the same thing is happening up and down the country. The ‘case’ made by the CMO was so astonishingly weak and incoherent that it must have woken a few people up. It’s their kids ffs!
Well done, very brave.
Hat off to you Sir.
(Or madam :-))
It’s true I could just as easily be a woman.
Well done for taking action. It’s all we can do at the moment – take comfort in the fact that you did not stay silent!
Thank you but it’s still happening so I’m not feeling great. I walked into my office the other morning to find a colleague gloating about how he’d infiltrated an ‘antivax’ group on Telegram who were planning to protest at local schools on jab days, and informed the police. I kept schtum of course but it was distressing to see the glee with which he was talking about it. We’re in such a mess.
You must have been tempted to mention the STASI – was he a history teacher?
The word Stasi is never far from my mind at the moment, believe me. He wasn’t in the History dept, but I’ve always regarded him as a nice guy; just goes to show how twisted people have become.
It sounds as though you did a brilliant job! lf only every school had a teacher like you to set a line. Well done.
Jabbatoir – lol! Our school hasn’t sent out any info yet either. I had some correspondance with them about it as soon as the government announcement was made, and the head was clear that they would only be providing premises for Sirona, the bit of the NHS that jabs children. Also that if a child wished to have it against their parents’ wishes this would be a matter for Sirona to discuss with the parents and no jabs of this kind would take place on school premises. I think she was doing all that she could, given the circumstances, unless heads all over the country stood up to say no to it all. They are in a really difficult position, with so many parents actively wanting this thing for their kids…
Very true and mirrors the approach taken by my own boss. They are in a difficult position (but still have a duty to know exactly what is happening to children under their care through this programme). And ‘Sirona’ sounds like the name of a sinister biotech company in a rubbish dystopian sci-fi movie. Maybe it’s got Pierce Brosnan in it.
As I’ve also already written in the past: To people desiring to eradicate a pathogen via vaccination, death of someone who was vaccinated is a win outcome. Can’t prevent future transmission more effectively than by that.
Oof – that’s hard! If technically true….
Grim!
ALSO totally coincidentally
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mystery-rise-in-heart-attacks-from-blocked-arteries-m253drrnf
“Mystery” rise in heart attacks from blocked arteries
Oh what can it be! 🙂
I’ve been on a drug trial for Clarisarin (yep, the one in the news recently) for a couple of years now. Every 6 moths I get jabbed either with the drug (at a £1,000 per shot!) or with a placebo: I won’t know which until the trial ends in 3 years time. Anyway, everyone on the trial has either had a heart attack or a stroke (the former in my case) and is taking some type of statin – or variant thereof – on a daily basis. The week before last I went for my 6 monthly appointment and the lovely nurse administering the trial asked me if I’d been ‘jabbed’. When I said no and explained that I’d be very surprised if anyone else on the trial had either, she looked really shocked. I then explained that for anyone who’s had a heart attack or a stroke (in which blood clots feature heavily) to voluntarily take a vaccine that’s known to cause blood clots strikes me as being – to say the least – unwise. Stunned silence was the response and the subject was quickly changed. Needless to say – not by me!
When do the hangings start?
At the downvoters – where is your line? Do you have one?
Do upticks and downticks really mean anything? Especially on ‘Today’s Comments’ which vanish every 24 hours anyway.
Do people giving up & down ticks to Daily Mail readers’ posts think they are really achieving something?
An uptick here and *poof!* Zahawi says he’s sorry, resigns, and hands back his salary of the past 5 years. A downtick there and Carrie’s wallpaper falls off.
EF,
I suspect your downticks are tongue in cheek.
Devising an online forum reputation system that has real meaning and merit has eluded the finest minds since the birth of the internet. Post graduate thesis’ are devoted to the topic – to no avail. I used to work for a community forum where this topic was discussed endlessly and, over 10+ years, no one was able to improve on the basic system employed here. Arguably, it’s not only pointless, but also counterproductive. Great posts can receive down ticks and bad posts can receive up ticks. (Okay, how does one define ‘great’ and ‘bad’ – let’s not get into that!) The egos of the authors are then triggered to respond accordingly and the net result is bad feeling all round. That said, I’m a total hypocrite as I uptick posts I like and took great pleasure when a post of mine got 75 (ish) upticks earlier this week! 🙂
I put your theory to the test by giving you a downtick that I didn’t mean.
Just upticked your downtick, cg!
And I upticked yours, after careful deliberation.
Anti capital punishment (so far as possible), anti-lynch mob mentality – which in any case may not be helpful in the circumstances, however tempting it may be to some with what’s being done to us.
I’ll be just as happy if the courts would like to step in and step up.
Make no mistake, it could be a long hard slog getting cases to court, and as hard again to get convictions. Until such time, I suppose one’s preferred punishments are neither here nor there, apart from their rhetorical value. I have talked about Nuremberg mark 3 before, but potential punishments are quite a way down the line at the moment.
As soon as you nip down to Homebase and buy some rope.
Stockpiling
I cannot see any way we can stop this happening other than an uprising and retributive justice. But I’m afraid I cannot see that happening. We face a new dark age.
Yeah, the numbers seem to also match the official estimates that around 1 in 50000 subjects is vaccinated to death.
Best vaccinate for mooses?
“Moose and deer are more active in the autumn, and that usually means they cause more road traffic accidents. YLE has pinpointed the areas with the highest incidence of vehicle collisions with moose in Finland. Last year three people were killed in moose-related crashes.
In 2016, 1,881 moose-related traffic accidents were reported in Finland, 600 more than in 2011. Three people died and 144 were injured, meaning that people were hurt or killed in just six percent of all incidents.”
https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/moose_on_the_loose_peak_crash_season_approaches/9841536
I think the number of covid deaths is still “a bit” higher than moose deaths overall, but when it comes to vaccinating toddlers it may be somewhat comparable.
Can you vaccinate a toddler against moose impact?
You can and you bloody well should. For the wider community and to prevent disruption to their learning.
I’d need to see more data before knowing whether to be concerned.
We know that deaths in this group will vary every year. Numbers could go up or down for myriad reasons. Is this increase within the bounds of the normal fluctuations we see, or an outlier? Worthy of more investigation for sure, but hard to draw conclusions from this directly.
We know for example that mental health issues have likely gone up. If there are more deaths from suicide or drug issues for example, what proportion of the increase is made up of these? Is lockdown the bigger culprit, or vaccination, or some other thing, or just chance? Maybe 2021 wasn’t particularly high and 2020 was more the outlier and was low? Etc.
Some of the increase could be down to vehicle accidents. A lot of the 17-19 year olds won’t have been out and about much in 2020, and then back on their motorbikes and in cars, with little experience to start with, and out of practise to boot.
Another hidden consequence of Lockdowns perhaps.
While I don’t think it’s true in this case, the perspective to put up with all sorts of bs while traveling on public transport (and for the covidians, the fear of getting infected) certainly incentivizes using cars – including by those people who would otherwise be hesitant about their own driving skills (I know this from personal experience).
Motorbikes maybe, but it’s actually quite hard to kill yourself these days in a modern-ish car full of airbags etc etc. A lot of youngfolk seem to get new cars on teh never never (PCP’s)
I would have thought that the data in itself would be cause for concern, indeed it should be so alarming as to initiate urgent professional analysis.
Oh please. Timidity like that is just pathetic.
All valid questions for sure, but I don’t see any of this cautious evaluation being applied to deaths ‘with covid’ – many (perhaps even most) of which have little to do with Covid and more to do with old age or co-morbidities.
Perhaps the problem is not that this vaccine is more dangerous than other vaccines but that so many more people are being “persuaded” (via propaganda,blackmail and coercion) to take it, even though they don’t need it, that more people are being affected by deadly adverse events.
The yellow fever vaccination requirement for travel to certain countries has been around for a long time and as far as I am aware, applies to everyone over the age of 9 months? Consequently, over the years, many young people will have had the yellow fever vaccination. Given that, pre covid, we were quite sensitive to possible vaccine adverse reactions, I would have thought that if there had been any slight query over the safety of the yellow fever vaccine in young people it would have surfaced by now.
Consequently, I would say that these figures appear to be unprecedented and alarming, they need immediate professional confirmation of statistical significance and then they need to be flagged up …….. on every flag pole and the whole situation reconsidered as a matter of urgency.
It can’t be explained by the number treated, because the flu vaccine is administered in comparable numbers, around 150m doses annually in the USA, including the elderly and infirm, and there are minimal issues https://www.cdc.gov/flu/fluvaxview/dashboard/vaccination-doses-distributed.html
The unusually high level of adverse events was clear from the clinical trials, and in more normal circumstances would have been enough to have the development programme scrapped. But because the manufacturers were given immunity from liability, they went ahead with them.
And because it was clearly stated, around the world in Lockstep, that Vaccines were our “way out of this crisis” while no early treatment protocols were being developed.😕
Not the case. Americans take I believe 17 of them as babes. This is more injury than all of them put together.
No. The rate of reported AEs for these “vaccines” is more than ten times any other vax.
Remember that correlation does not necessarily mean causation. But be watchful, in case it does in this case.
Fair comment, this needs some analysis and professional assessment, but the numbers are such that this should be done as a matter of extreme urgency.
agreed. without knowing what previous years’ numbers were it could be last year the was especially low and we’ve just returned to normal.
I have no doubt though that if this is found to be vaccine related that it will be quietly swept under the carpet with loud cries of “nothing to see here”.
Here it simply bloody is. How do we know? Because no one is saying a fucking word about it. This is the vax. Excess deaths are up in all age groups, and the point at which excess deaths took off correlates with starting vax in that age group. It’s the fucking vax. It’s fucking mass murder. It’s plain and simple and it’s time everyone stopped prevaricating.
I have redrawn and combined the two graphs to enable you to compare the two groups more easily. I have also adjusted the slopes to account for the fact that there are roughly 3 times as many kids in the 1-14 age group compared with 15-19. It really hammers Will’s point home.
That is helpful, thank you Norman.
I think if we see a similar separation of the 1-14 age group lines in a few weeks, then the jig is up. Though it will be harder to spot as a lot of the deaths in that bracket will be in the under 5s. It would be better if we could see the 12-14 year olds.
Curious that they changed the category boundaries so we can’t directly compare to five year averages eh?
According to Steve Baker MP the official infection fatality rate for covid 19 is 0.096% – slightly less than one person in a thousand and similar to flu. Yet the official death figure is 136,662, rather more than two in a thousand, on other words more than twice Baker’s figure.
Which (if either) is true?
The official death toll is a work of fiction – I think this has been pretty well established.
The novel “Coronavirus”
Of course it’s fiction:
Hospital clearances
People denied treatment or too scared to go to hospital
Midazolam
Stress and social isolation caused by ‘the measures’.
It shouldn’t be forgotten that the 136,000 is a cumulative figure over 18 months. Does that make a difference to the dodgy figures?
Assuming the 136662 is correct (which I think is wrong, because of the with/of issue, but lets assume it is) then both are correct, because the 136662 spans two years.
It’s not really two years though. It’s February and March of one year and December to January of the next year, after which Covid ran out of vulnerable people to kill (i think the vaccine had minimal effect on Covid death rates.
it makes no difference. if 136662 people have died of covid with an IFR of .096% that means 142,356,250 people have been infected which is clearly not possible.
Of course not. The number of people who have died OF Covid is more like 13,666. The numbers are a fabrication.
Is it from covid rather than with?
I thought about it too the other day. I thought I had saved the reply from PHE England where this number is from, but cannot find it now.
The IFR varies with time. Steve Baker’s figure refers to the current fatality rate, when much of the population, especially vulnerable groups, has been vaccinated. Neil Ferguson’s infamous model for the first lockdown in March 2020 assumed 0.9% IFR, and he reduced that to 0.77% (in the unvaccinated) in January 2021 as treatment methods had improved in the interim. My own wet-finger-in-the-air guess is that the pre-vaccine IFR was around 0.4%, but I don’t pretend any solid science behind that, more a sense of what different countries and groups seemed to be experiencing. Real world experience of the main vaccines suggests ~80% effectiveness against death as well as serious illness (but not against infection/re-transmission) which would suggest that if Stevie B MP’s figure is correct, then the pre-vaccine IFR was ~0.5%. Flu IFR (a non-notifiable, non-novel but highly mutatable virus for which a semi-effective vaccine has been available for 20 years) has an IFR around 0.1%, maybe nearer 0.2% in bad years. Pre-vaccine was about twice that. As a sanity check, the typical annual flu toll of ~17000 deaths would imply every one in the country catching flu on average once every 4 years. Ultimately IFR is difficult to determine… Read more »
Yes but its not ‘pre’ or ‘post’ vaccine. Its pre June 2020 when old people died in care homes and hospitals; with a blip in January 2021 which was post vaccine first dose for the same demographic. The age profile hasn’t changed , its the old and infirm that have died as they do every year with flu/bad colds.
The only reason the IFR was higher at the start of this shit show was because of dreadful decisions by governments and public health officials.
I agree on the points you make, but it’s important to distinguish between the IFR based on the people exposed to infection (eg because you emptied hospitals into care homes) vs. the IFR based on what would be experienced if the whole population was exposed evenly. The former is a product of the shielding policies used, the latter is a characteristic of the disease and the available treatments/vaccines.
Do you think John Ioaniddis was wrong to suggest 0.15%? I haven’t gone deep enough into it to know but I’d be interested to understand why you reckon 0.4% as opposed to half or a quarter of that.
I reversed the question. I asked myself, what proportion of the population would have to have been infected in order for the IFR to be a certain value? Then compared that against assumptions of infection rates being made in, among others, the Imperial model updates. So if the 136000 figure is correct (I know, I know) then a 0.4% IFR would require 50% of the population to have been infected. Is that plausible? Well I read somewhere recently that 50% of children under 12 had tested positive antibodies, and as they haven’t been vaccinated yet…. if infection rates among children are a fair proxy for infections rates among other age groups then 0.4% isn’t a mad estimate. Plenty of assumptions in that working of course, not least the official death toll which includes those who died of covid, with covid, and having recently recovered from covid. I’d certainly be rounding down rather than up. Repeated at various times over the last 18 months, 0.3-0.4% seemed like a good range. I think Ioaniddis came up with a range of figures, finding a correlation between IFR and absolute mortality rates. His IFR ranges from 0.15% to as high as 0.9%. I remember… Read more »
IFR from the Diamond Princess onwards has been around at 0.3%. It’s the figure I have been using. It does not surprise me that the true figure is lower, because I believe infections have been under-reported.
136,662 deaths for any reason within 28 days of a fraudulent and not fit for purpose PCR test is not a reliable figure, it is a product of organised crime.
“I suggest that the medical authorities make an urgent priority of investigating the reasons for the sudden uptick in deaths among teenagers since June, before rolling out any more vaccines to young people.”
And will they? No bloody chance!
They did not follow up Dr. Tess Lawrie’s urgent report on 9th June. However, they did react. They began to remove accumulated deaths from the current week. See attached.
How do we get this information into the mainstream?
Surely someone has the contacts to do so.
The Telegraph does not seem to be afraid to run a few items questioning the narrative.
Pretty sure TY knows lots of journalists.
You cant when they only want to publish this sort of thing.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10049933/Vaccine-uptake-stalled-55-16-18-year-olds-official-data-shows.html
I did not know about new UK Health Security Agency either.
UK Column News and Richie Allen I think both flagged up the UKHSA in the spring, their published mission statement online is/was grim, “driving long term societal change” and all that stuff that our regime love
Not going to happen. You will see ONE story, like the Times covering the spike in CV deaths, planted purely so in years to come the media can say “hey, we didn’t conceal it, we just didn’t realise the significance”
So an increase of 90 deaths in roughly 3 months. Maybe it’s the jab, maybe not, maybe just a bit. But it’s a danger signal screaming out from the data which needs to be dealt with.
Anyone know how many in this age group have been stabbed?
It looks “worrying?” Just worrying? I would say it’s a total catastrophe and needs to stop immediately. What are we waiting for?!
What is different between last year and this?
Is there a differences between the sexes that are different to previous years?
What about life shortening conditions?
Road traffic accidents?
increased knife crime.
Increased mental health problems amongst this age group.
It could be the vaccine, but it could be coincidence.
There are too many confounding factors.
What is needed is a detailed breakdown of causes, otherwise it is just numbers.
Forgive my scepticism but there could be confirmation bias.
https://www.myocarditisfoundation.org/about-myocarditis/
Of course it could also be the lack of front line medical care available whilst GPs sit comfortably behind their screens rather than see patients in their surgery.
The point is that it’s an alarming rise that needs to be investigated thoroughly and quickly so that we can reverse the trend.
Doesn’t it equate to an average of one extra death per day over a period of 3 months as this cumulative data?
OK – I try to avoid conjecture but I have to get to the bottom of what’s going on. Here are some alternatives arranged in a table for convenience. Let me know which option you think best explains this ‘vaccine’ rollout.
Actually I don’t avoid conjecture at all. I’m just saying that to appear more credible.
A+B+C+D+E=F
I like your thinking but it doesn’t help resolve this..
Crisis
Maybe your great table misses out the A* Row:
Primary Culprit – The Pandemic
Key Motive – to Save Lives
Adverse Effects – Incredibly Rare and Coincidental
Ultimate Aim – Zero Plague
Does this make total sense of a Jab which don’t work?
You’re absolutely right. I really should have included a row that read like that but didn’t want to stray too far into the implausible.
BTW I’m going for B.
I’d set aside F as outside the bounds of reasoned discussion (not saying it’s impossible, just that it requires a faith-based analysis).
E I find rather comical, because I have more respect for China’s level of competence that to expect them to inflict such a nothing-burger, if they were taking the risks of engaging in an act of war. Plus the US seems up to its neck in whatever was going on in China virus-wise as well.Remember, the vast, vast majority of all the damage inflicted on the US sphere has been self-inflcted, by virtue of the insane response.
“Big pharma and their financial stakeholders”, “globalist capitalist class”, “billionaire parasite class” and “Davos/WEF crowd” all just code for the modern global and globalist elite, or various subgroups of it, and they have pretty much all pushed for this. Most likely each group for their own separate objectives.
As with the attack on Iraq, I do not think you will find a single, completely explanatory cause. For such big policy movements, there has to be a convergence of interests among several major interest/power groups.
So roughly, A+B+C+D.
Can’t argue with any of that. I should have included a ‘convergence of malign interests’ row for sure!
The last one. Satan, with a legion of supremely evil storm troopers backed by supremely stupid zombie footsoldiers, is taking possession of society. We can only resist as best we can, and pray.
I’m willing to try anything!
Nice work.
I think F is behind all of A-E though. Call it Satan, or call it plain old evil, it’s the same thing.
Also I think global billionaires and WEF are potentially the same?
The thing that I don’t get is that it is a Chinese bio weapon but funded by the US. Fauci is the link. Who does he work for? That will give the answer.
You’re right they are kind of the same parties – but slight distinction if the underlaying driving factor is economic collapse (this would mean it’s about causing maximum division and civil unrest, rather than forcing everyone to comply with the vaccines).
A,B and D colluding is where my thinking is at the moment. (Subject to change as/when new evidence emerges.) I don’t buy into the depopulation argument for three reasons . . .
crisisgarden – I note you’ve declined to pay lip service to Toby by including a ‘Incompetence & Cockupery’ listing! :-)))
I completely agree – depopulation is a bridge too far for me (but I’m keeping it there as a possibility, because it sure as hell looks like this)
Oh yes, I did leave out incompetence and cockupery. Silly me!
I asked a question about depopulation in the forum and it got little traffic, and much of that was from the resident 77th, as I anticipated.
Was hoping for a rational discussion as to the likelihood of such a plan, and who would benefit, other than Gaia. As has been noted, what’s the point of killing off the customer base?
I’m completely up for discussing it rationally – but my gut instinct is that this is economic. It feels like a divide and conquer strategy (and a continuation of a strategy which we’ve witnessed for several years in the form of identity politics). The financial elite/parasite class know the (Western debt based) game is up and want chaos and division to disguise this and turn attention away from them; this seems like the most logical explanation.
but why mandate mass vaccination – with hideous consequences not all of which can now considered to be unintended, considering a plethora of extremely experienced doctors in this field have concurred with each other that the jab is very harmful and should be discontinued as a matter of urgency before further harms are caused?
That’s the question at the heart of this situation isn’t it. Clearly there are converging interests at play. What seems certain to me is that the financial overlords are carrying out a long planned fundamental change to the way the global economy will work and that they have decided that vaccination status will be used as a means of controlling and limiting access to things such as travel, food and energy. On the WEF website there is a complex interactive diagram showing vaccination at the heart of all human transactions, so this is planned and to suggest otherwise is I think naïve. However the paradox is that if you were indeed intending to coerce all human beings into joining your vaccination based economic system, you wouldn’t begin by mandating a vaccine with such obvious side effects; it could just be saline. So either the side effects are a genuine surprise to those running the scam, or something more sinister is in play. That’s why I’m more inclined to think that the plandemic has been staged as an emergency coverup of a financial collapse, in order to divide the population, cause civil unrest and protect the perpetrators from pitch forks when… Read more »
Mean while, in the land of the free, some states are enacting forced vaccination for children or there will not be able to attend school.
We all know that medicines have some sort of side effect. However, if you talk about sideeffects some think you some sort of nutter because it is preached that there are none.
I do not take some prescribed meds because the risks of side effects are too high for me to accept.
“If it hadn’t been for the vaccine, these teenagers would have been even more dead”, said Dept of Health spokesman Mr P Faiser.
Good one!
Today ‘vaccine passports’ were introduced in Scotland, primarily as a means of forcing young people to ‘get the jab’. And, as always, you can trust the SNP to make a bad idea worse. In this case by sneaking in additional powers under the ‘vaccine passport’ legislation. See the following extracts from the Spectator’s lunchtime briefing: ‘The regulations include a power for police to enter private property. Paragraph 16A states that a ‘relevant person’ may enter a premises to investigate or stop Covid rule-breaking if they ‘reasonably believe the situation to be urgent’. Quite a sweeping power in a democracy, and one that has been introduced with no warning and no parliamentary scrutiny.’ Not sure what constitutes an ‘urgent’ situation – drinking or dancing, perhaps? But it gets worse: ‘Normally, the right to forcibly enter a property would require a warrant from a judge. Now, the new powers grant ‘relevant persons’ the power to use reasonable force to enter the premises. What’s more, the first time Holyrood saw the measures was yesterday afternoon, less than 24 hours before they came into force this morning.’ Still, all credit to Nicola – failed states usually require independence before becoming bankrupt dictatorships. Our Dear Leader… Read more »
Frightening.
And one of the Canadian states passed almost exactly the same outrageous law a few days ago. Sasketchwan from memory
I just can’t cope with the juxtaposition of black eagle and blue saltire! It’s as funny as it is accurate and terrifying!
The euromomo.eu website, if selecting age range 15-44, is starting to look similar to this depressing graph. The graph is messy but mortality well above average in this age group, and rising
I’ll just leave this here….
i haven’t read this thread. forgive me. this is one of those random posts that contains too much personal information to be constructive to any debate. i’ve read l/d sceptic for over a year. it has been my salvation. the comments are a million times more informative than the articles. you people have maintained my sanity. i don’t doubt that toby set this up with the best of classical libertarian intentions but he and this sites editorial vigour have long since been lost to influence/money. i am a middle-aged british man who has lived in europe for many years. i desperately want to visit my widowed mother in the uk but i am terrified that once i get to the uk i may not be able to return to my home, life and business. until very recently, my very small social group considered me a crazy person when i warned them about the political/societal restrictions and controls facing us. the turning point was telling them that you cannot enter a shop or supermarket in france or italy unless you have proof of vaccine. coming to a country near you soon. i don’t know anyone who isn’t fully vaccinated. all my… Read more »
Hi! Wanted to respond to you even though this is right at the bottom of the thread and not sure you’ll ever see it. Just wanted to say how sorry I am for your situation, and that you’ve had to endure 18 months of, I presume, gaslighting and derision for holding very sensible opinions and concerns about the rise of oppressive tyranny in peaceful societies we once took for granted. You can see from the comments on this site you’re not alone and frankly anyone who isn’t fearful right now isn’t paying attention. I agree that the narrative is falling apart and have witnessed in my own life more and more people beginning to question what’s actually going on (and refusing their ‘booster’!) but try as I might I can’t envision this period of history ending well. The powers that be have played their hand and cannot back down without admitting that the whole things been a fraud so they’ll do what any regime under pressure does and double down. So I think we’ll all have to endure a difficult period but I’m optimistic about the future. The corrupt banking/corporate/tech ‘elite’ who seem to be driving this are a house… Read more »
It does all rather seem to be taking on the look of asymmetrical warfare… Now in addition, extending water fluoridation is actively being considered. In a 1990s book on another subject the author remarked if it had a beneficial effect on teeth at all – and disregarding the major arguments against – that it worked only for children’s teeth anyway…? https://post.parliament.uk/water-fluoridation-and-dental-health/ see comment https://staging.dailysceptic.org/2021/07/17/what-sage-gets-wrong-the-evidence-that-almost-everyone-is-exposed-during-a-surge-and-most-are-immune/#comment-550852 “It’s [PHE’s] been utterly unsuccessful in imposing a quite different unlicensed medicinal product on the entire population, fluoridated water, for decades, thanks to a small band of ‘activists’ who do actually know better. But now, in the guise of ‘rationalization’ of these identical twins, the NHS/PHE mafia, are to be merged as one super-Quango.And as that paragon of public health virtue Matt (‘The Mouth’) Hancock gleefully proclaimed, this merger will enable the government ‘to seize back control’ and make water fluoridation a target of future policy reforms operated by – you guessed it? – the new monster health service.And despite his departure, this unavoidable (i.e., effectively mandatory) form of mass medication is to be included in the current policy objectives, regardless of ethics or, indeed, medicine (the MHRA claims this is not a medicinal product!”) Does… Read more »
asymmetric warfare yes. In a class war waged against those who don’t even for the most part realise it’s happening.
With reference to Will’s last sentence, I suggest that it is a criminal matter if the medical authorities carry on “vaccinating” young people knowing what we know now, and in spite of JCVI advice.