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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Cancer backlog scandal so much worse than you think”.

How many tens of thousands have died in Britain alone from lockdowns and related measures? How many more will die long term even if they stop all the restrictions?
And is there anywhere in the world that suggests it could have been worth it? Not South Dakota or Belarus anyway. Even SAGE said last July that 75,000 will die because of lockdowns, but they carried on with it anyway because they claimed 400,000 could die without lockdowns. Nowhere has this been remotely true (except in Peru, which locked down hard and also recently changed the way they measure “Covid” deaths). The 400,000 deaths claim was well wide of the mark, and was always going to be. They need to be held to account.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Politicians have really proved they hate people

Biological and molecular evidence why children are effectively COVID immune and can be considered already vaccinated
https://trialsitenews.com/covid-injections-offer-children-no-opportunity-for-the-benefit-and-only-potential/

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Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Friend of mine is now seriously ill with cancer. It started last year, but she had so many delays in getting a diagnosis that no treatment started until early this year. Last year, she had to bectested and then quarantine herself for 2 weeks before every appointment, just for exploratory examinations, so the whole process was dragged out.

Now the cancer has spread to other places in her body. There is treatment available, but it hasn’t started yet, and it’s doubtful how much good it will do anyway.

Had she been seen and treated promptly, the situation may have been very different.

Thank you, NHS.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

I don’t want to give false hope, but this treatment is still offered elsewhere:

https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/gcmaf-and-persecution-david-noakes-lyn-thyer-immuno-biotech

Dave
Dave
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

They need to be held to account”
And therein lies the problem.
Those idiot politicians, led by the tousle-haired shagwit, will NEVER be held to account for the deaths, illness, waste of OUR money and near destruction of the economy. At best, they will lose their seats and segue neatly from the Westminster gravy train to a different gravy train of a few well-paid directorship. They face no real consequences for their actions and care even less.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

As if this wasn’t bad enough how many more cancers will be caused by the “vaccines”?

Mark
4 years ago

“Germany Wants To Force Gab To Censor, It’s Not Happening” – Because of Gab’s unwillingness to participate in state-mandated censorship of free speech, the German Government is now going after it with heavy fines and other legal action. Excellent statement from Torba: “The German government isn’t concerned about any actual criminal activity, they are concerned with Thought Criminals who dare to dissent against their globalist regime. According to our legal team, who has been working with us on this issue for several months, we have three choices. 1) Obey German censorship laws and start censoring content that the German Government doesn’t like (this is not going to happen) 2) Disobey German censorship laws and pick a fight with the nation state of Germany (I likely wouldn’t ever be able to leave the US again, they would come at us from every possible angle through state-sponsored deplatforming, heavy fines, they would possibly leverage contacts in the Biden Admin to come after Gab in other ways, and Lord knows what else.) 3) Temporarily stop providing this service in Germany by blocking German IPs. …. Why should we block an entire country from accessing Gab because their government is sending us fines we… Read more »

Lucan Grey
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Since Gab’s servers are in the USA, that is the same as Germans going to the USA to freely shoot guns.

If the Germans want to lock up their own citizens for doing that they are welcome to do so. Otherwise it has just as much effect as “The US president will attend the Chancellory on Tuesday’s for tea, or else”.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Lucan Grey

Surely it should be the german state job censor traffic from GABs double unplus servers if it needs to digitally burn books in real time?

Mark
4 years ago
  • Whose Britishness?” – “On education, drugs, immigration, environmental alarmism, transgender issues, foreign aid, personal rights, privacy, free speech and – most of all – British culture, the Conservative Party has been firmly unconservative,” writes Alexander Adams in Bournbrook Magazine.

Nice that people are starting to notice.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

As with so many things, Christopher Booker was there first, dubbing them the “Not The Conservative Party” some years ago. They are even less the Conservative party now of course…

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Among other commentators and journalists to have noticed the Emperor’s nudity, Peter Hitchens has been on the “Conservative” Party case for more than a decade now.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Carrieservative…

The whims of Boris’s current pincushion (mainly to get other people to pay for her) made law.

Encierro
4 years ago

Masking up.
I have watched Dominic Chinea on YouTube where he attends the National TV awards.
It was shocking to see that all of those that were working there waters, technical crew etc were wearing masks. Yet those where were there to be patted on the back for their work were not masked up. The celebrities were not. They also broke all the rules we minions have been told to obey.
This is intolerable.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

Celebs don’t look pretty when they wear their knickers over their faces. Even a celeb mudt realise this. They’ve always known that knickers off is the way to success.

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

No it’s the new feudal symbol of serfdom.

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I prefer some bare-faced cheek myself! Face commando? 🙂

Mogwai
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

If that doesn’t epitomise the outright hyposcrisy, discrimination and uselessness of the performance of mask-wearing I don’t know what does. What a bloody charade!

TheyLiveAndWeLockdown
4 years ago

Children or their Guardians should request the FULL MEDICAL HISTORY of those jabbers plus the head-teacher who allowed them to use premises they control.

Has the head completed a full risk assessment?

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

A child should be able to answer the following question before being jabbed.

What are the differences between viral vector, genetic, inactivated and attenuated vaccines?

if they don’t know, they are not informed, are they?

hippogriff
hippogriff
4 years ago

I got an email about a petition “Outlaw discrimination against those who do not get a Covid-19 vaccination”. Transcript is here: https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2021-09-20/debates/A52729B6-FB5D-498F-86E4-569024C22623/Covid-19Vaccinations Ironically most of the discussion was discriminating against people with concerns about vaccinations by labeling them “anti-vaxxers” and making out they are mad. It looks like they are going to push the vaccine passport / id system no matter what whether you have been jabbed or not: “On vaccine passports, in relation to the petitions before us, we understand why the public might be confused or anxious about perceived discrimination against those that are not vaccinated. I have to say that the Government’s approach to covid passports has been chaotic at times. There has not been consistent clarity from Ministers about what vaccine passports are supposed to achieve, how they would work and what would be expected from the public, businesses and workers, and that meant we had a degree of chaos over the summer and no real preparation before the winter. Two weeks ago, the then vaccines Minister, the right hon. Member for Stratford-on-Avon (Nadhim Zahawi), stood before Parliament to confirm the introduction of covid passports and stress their importance; days later, the Secretary of State for… Read more »

john ball
john ball
4 years ago
Reply to  hippogriff

I watched the farce on Monday of House of Commons hearing Petition “to outlaw discrimination against those not getting covid 19 vaccinations” together with other on mandating vaccines for care home and medical staff. Apart from chairwoman only 4 MPs there, one introducing, SNP spokesperson, labour spokesman and Minister. All strongly supported vaccination saying it was “safe and effective”, and even complaining about misinformation quoting BBC’s Marianna Spring saying how she had been threatened ! I wonder where were were all the so called libertarian MPs, ie all those memebers of CRG who recently signed Big Brother Watch Pledge; on the basis of which I had tried unsuccessfully to get my own MP to sign the pledge and go to this debate. Not surprising she was not there if nobody else turns up Also I would have expected William Wragge, chairman of Commons Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Committee to have turned up in view of his committee’s strong and scathing condemnation of the Govt :- “With recent analysis suggesting that vaccinated people carry as much of the virus as the unvaccinated into any setting, the disappointing lack of any scientific basis for the Government’s decision to go ahead could… Read more »

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago

Doctors suffering a wave of abuse over lack of face to face appointments, eh? Yesterday, I finally phoned my GP’s surgery to try to get an appointment for my annual medicine review. The last time I had done this was 12 months ago. I’ve not seen or spoken with a GP since. First, I was subjected to a recorded message from a GP informing me that “we will not tolerate abuse of our staff….team working exceptionally hard to serve our patients” etc. Then the options of press 1 for this, press 2 for that. Eventually, I got through to a receptionist so I could book an appointment. I explained that it really had to be a face to face one, as I had to have my blood pressure taken, and this cannot be done over the phone. Absolutely not! What an idea! I can have a phone call from the GP in 3 weeks time, and she will decide if I need a face to face appointment, not me! So in 3 weeks, the GP will phone me, and then say yes, I need to come in, and probably another 3 weeks after that, I will finally see her. Exactly… Read more »

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

It isn’t always like that. My mother, aged 100, cut her leg on Monday. The girl who helps look after her dressed it very well but, given her age, my sister rang the local GP practice who made an appointment to look at her “just in case” today at 3:00. Yesterday morning the cut looked very good so she cancelled the appointment. By early afternoon it started bleeding so I rang to see if we could get an appointment after all. No problem – 4:15 today.

Just wanted to redress the balance a bit 🙂

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Will your 100 year old mother be expected to wear a rag on her face while getting her leg checked over? If so, I don’t regard that as balance.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I doubt it – but if she is asked to wear a mask in a medical context I am sure it will be a surgical mask provided by the surgery. Do you honestly think that wearing a mask for 15 minutes is too high a price to pay for getting quick medical treatment?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Holding people’s healthcare to ransom for a badge of political compliance and tool for fearmongering is morally wrong, and should be opposed by any right-thinking person.

Don’t like it? Blame the people who reversed their position in summer 2020 to pretend that mask-wearing does after all make a significant difference and was suddenly so dramatically important that it had to be required by law, in order to convince people there was something around to be frightened of in the face of the hugely inconvenient disappearance of covid last summer, and who then devoted huge efforts to propagandising people into seeing them as a signifier of basic decency as well as compliance.

Those are the real scumbags in this. Your kind are just the gullible, cowardly collaborators, as I’ve pointed out previously.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

It is quite hard to accuse my mother of being a gullible, cowardly collaborator. Shall I pass your thoughts on the subject on to her? I imagine she will be amused having lived through a war where cowardice and collaboration had rather more significance.

Or do you think we should refuse to let her be treated if the surgery asks her to wear a mask?

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

It is quite hard to accuse my mother of being a gullible, cowardly collaborator.”

I didn’t, I accused you of it. Unlike you, I haven’t engaged your mother in any discussions on the topic.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

So what do you think I should do? Refuse to let my mother be treated if she has to wear a mask?

Actually it is too late of course, my sister took her to the appointment which is at 4:15 – cowardly collaborator that she is.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Do you honestly think that wearing a mask for 15 minutes is too high a price to pay for getting quick medical treatment? Absolutely. Besides arguments about freedom: them making your mother wear a mask should be deeply insulting to you. Do you have any comprehension of the principles of family honour? Dignity? Do you care that her breathing was restricted for those 15 minutes – constantly breathing her own recycled breath? I agree with Mark’s response word for word, but I am also going to press on how ridiculous this rule is. Consider that we’re expected to wear the dribble-rags to ‘protect’ others. What your doctor is actually saying, is that your frail 100 yr old mother is somehow strong enough to potentially carry a devastatingly dangerous virus and she therefore poses a risk to him/her unless she covers her face. I’m not going to entertain the ‘asymptomatic’ nonsense. My own mother has been made to self-isolate before an endoscopy tomorrow. They made her go into the hospital to get a test stick shoved up her nose/back of throat before letting her get the procedure. Not only was I angry about the continuation of the inhumane self-isolation rule, but… Read more »

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

As your mother’s child, why are YOU not angry?

Because you are wrong – wearing a surgical mask for 15 minutes is mildly uncomfortable and does no harm. I have been in hospital a lot recently and had to wear surgical masks for much longer with no ill effects – some of the staff wear them most of the day. It is absolutely nothing to do with dignity – anyone who has a colonoscopy knows what medical indignity is really like – and most people happily accept it.
I’m not going to entertain the ‘asymptomatic’ nonsense.

That’s your choice. Some people prefer to examine the evidence before making a decision.

Really it is time some of you guys connected with the real world instead of investing a perfectly straightforward public health measure with some kind of symbolism of oppression. We can have a sensible discussion about how effective they are and whether they are a good idea – but hardly anyone out there, mask-wearers or not, thinks of it as a political statement.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Can’t help but wonder if you’re on the government payroll and if continued argument is a waste of my own time. I can not see any reason why someone who embraces this political crisis would spend so much time commenting on a site like this.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

I can not see any reason why someone who embraces this political crisis would spend so much time commenting on a site like this.

It is interesting and informative.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Uh-huh. 77th or not, you’re a time waster/troll and not conducive to helping the push-back against the government.

MTF
MTF
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

You don’t have to respond to anything I write. But according to Toby the purpose of this site is to encourage debate not initiate a push-back against the government (see the about page)

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Do you suppose Toby would waste his time arguing with someone who believes the Earth is flat? I doubt it. Comparatively, someone who will argue in favour of compulsory mask wearing of his own 100 yr old mother -for the safety of doctors- is equally wasteful of debate.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  MTF

Then your mother is exceptionally lucky. My own parents, who live in another part of the country, also recieve prompt care. But it must be recognised that this is not the case for everyone. I hate the phrase “postcode lottery”, but that’s exactly what it is.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

True. It can even vary in the same place. The “Health Centre” where I used to live was appalling, in fact so much so that a couple of ex-hospital doctors having seen all the misdiagnoses, missed diagnoses and late diagnoses, started an alternative GP practice.

It was like chalk and cheese. Probably never be permitted today with PCTs and CCGs etc.

In the last sixteen years here our surgery went from one extreme to the other, from being able to see a doctor or nurse in a few days to routine three weeks or more and cross-examination by the receptionist. “The receptionist not the patient decides if they can see a doctor or only a nurse” then you see the nurse and they say there is nothing they can do, you must make another appointment to see a doctor.

I don’t go any more.

J4mes
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

And yet your experiences are not exclusive to your GP – this appears to be systematic across the UK. It’s exactly the same as my GP – long-winded recorded message, press this button for this, this button for that, etc. “Covid covid covid”.

What bothers me is that people who are supposed to be there to help us stay healthy are insisting on us wearing masks, which are detrimental to health both physically and mentally. The continuation of this rule in order to see your doctor is a major deterrent for many people from wanting to get a health check up.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  J4mes

Exactly so. My own GP’s practice makes the wearing of a face covering a condition of entry to the building, and treatment. This is the cases even if you’ve had both jabs.

I’m hoping to find a bee-keepers hat and veil, which I swear I will wear when I finally get into the surgery. No-one can deny that it covers your face, but at least you will be able to breathe!

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

Soon you won’t get seen unless you are double jabbed. Or by then triple jabbed.

hippogriff
hippogriff
4 years ago

I guess you have probably already seen this, but this clip from an official FDA hearing (Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee – 9/17/2021)is worth watching: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFph7-6t34M&t=15684s
“EVEN if we say the V@x is 100% effective, it kills 2 people for every one it saves”.