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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“I’m a child, I can’t consent”.

Have they given all cause mortality figures yet for “vaccinated” (including within 14 days of “vaccination”) compared to “unvaccinated”? Because none of us can give free and informed consent until they do.
The distortion and suppression of statistics that are vital to reach an informed opinion on this has been an absolute disgrace, and people need to be held to account on this, even if it takes 30 years like with Hillsborough

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

It may take thirty years (though I doubt it), but the truth will out.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

I can’t wait 30 years to see Justice done. I want Bozo and his Junta hanged asap.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

How long did it take with thalidomide? A few years? Certainly not thirty.

iane
iane
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

No, but that was before total control of the media and the surge in wokeness!

John
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

It took 10 years for Distillers to acknowledge responsibility. The drug was licensed in 1958 and withdrawn 3 years later. It took a long drawn out law suit that ended in 1968. The difference is that Distillers did not have immunity from responsibility whereas the vaccine companies do.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

… and re. thalidomide, as I recall, the testing was actually more thorough than anything in this shit-show.

John
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

The German manufacturers did some trials, which the British government took at face value and licensed for use. The USA authorities did not take those results at face value and did not license its use in the States. The US had a few cases of birth deformities which they put down to mothers taking the drug obtained from outside the USA.

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Time to fight back Upcoming peaceful anti lockdown events – and we mean peaceful

Monday 20th September 5pm 
Big Yellow Boards roadside event 
Pavement outside (Morrisons The Peel Centre), 
Skimped Hill Ln, Bracknell RG12 1EN

Tuesday 21st September 3.30pm -4.30pm
Stand Outside Garth Hill School Bracknell  
Bull Ln, Bracknell RG42 2AD

Wednesday 22nd September 5.30pm
A322 Downshire Way/Twin Bridges Roundabout 

Stand in the Park Make friends – keep sane – talk freedom 
Reading River Promenade Sundays 10am  
Join our Telegram group https://t.me/standindparkreading

Bracknell South Hill Park Sundays 10am & Wednesdays 2pm  
Join our Telegram group http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell

webtrekker
4 years ago

Peaceful protests will get you nowhere.

These tyrannical monsters know they will be hanged for what they have done so there’s no way they are going to submit to peaceful protests.

We have to take back what’s rightfully ours by FORCE, however bloody that may turn out to be.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  webtrekker

Sounds like advocacy for the Light Brigade.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

What happened to the Angry Brigade?

Amtrup
4 years ago

Just tried to attend a Stand in the Park, walked half an hour to get there, arrived at 10am, walked all round the Common for nearly an hour, found noone, anywhere, neither wearing yellow, carrying yellow, or gathered in a group. Now wondering how many hundreds of the SitP events listed on the site, or the unofficial support site, are actually “live”/real/actually happening. This particular one appears to have completely died. 🙁

nottingham69
nottingham69
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The recent Hillsborough conclusions have been anything but justice. I was there.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“SAGE has been accused of over-egging its predictions from the first”.

Is that why the government continued with lockdowns and restrictions after the estimate presented at a SAGE meeting on 15/07/2020 of 75,000 non-Covid deaths as a result of lockdowns (as reported by LS on 26/09/2020)?

A reminder of those figures again:

  • 16,000 died as a result of the chaos in hospitals and care homes in March and April alone;
  • A further 26,000 people will lose their lives within a year if people continue to stay away from A & E and the problems in social care persist;
  • an additional 31,900 could die over the next 5 years as a result of missed cancer diagnoses, cancelled operations and the health impacts of a recession.

However, they might have had rather less excuse for ignoring the UN estimate from around the same time of 71 million being pushed back into extreme poverty because of global lockdowns.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Anti-lockdown protests in OZ”.

Sounds like things are pretty bad there. If lockdowns were expected to kill 75,000 in the UK – and that was a SAGE estimate from July last year – how many people are the more extreme, and seemingly never ending measures in Australia going to kill? Can anyone claim seriously that Australia’s measures will save more than they kill? And how many children are being harmed by these measures?

Phil Shannon
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Thanks for your concern, everybody in Blighty. Yes, it is absolutely dire in the land of Oz, where the authorities (who mistook their lockdowns and border closures as the magic key to our relatively low Covid stats during the virus-hostile spring/summer of 2019 when the virus first hit) are still glued to their Zero Covid goal which means, to them, stopping the virus by stopping the movement of people including protests that they deem to be super-spreader events. Hence the extreme force used to stomp out the protests in the lockdown states (NSW, Victoria, Queensland) where the police are acting as the paramilitary wing of the state Premiers and Chief Health Officers, under an extra-legal regime of perennially-extended emergency powers. The only thing they are crushing, however, is dissent – and, regrettably, most of the population are asleep (and this includes the formal ‘civil liberties’ organisations who disapprove of protests during a ‘public health crisis’). Once you accept that anything goes in the holy name of ‘safety’, then you can wave goodbye to personal freedoms, civil liberties, the economy, bodily autonomy, etc. etc. It might take something as serious as cancelling the Ashes Test series over lockdown/quarantine/testing requirements to wake some people up,… Read more »

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KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  Phil Shannon

Hang in there bro

Sweyn Forkbeard
Sweyn Forkbeard
4 years ago

A moving personal account about the vaccine passport dystopia in Lithuania:

https://txti.es/covid-pass/images

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

And no exemption for a pregnant woman whose doctor says she is at risk if she has this “vaccine”! Someone really should do an alternative cartoon for those who don’t have the opportunity pass. It is evil what is being done to people in Lithuania and their diaspora who are effectively barred from returning home, causing a lot of stress – with stress being a massive risk factor for bugs like Covid. These policies are murderous.

It’s a pity they don’t learn lessons from their Scandinavian neighbours.

RickH
4 years ago

Thanks for that insight.

Annie
4 years ago

The. ‘cry wolf’ link is a dud, can anyone restore it?
If it’s only the DT again, however, don’t bother.

Rowan Berkeley
Rowan Berkeley
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

The correct link for ‘the boy who cried wolf’ is this:
The Boys Who Cried Wolf – Tablet Magazine

Bella Donna
4 years ago

My cousins husband (75) has been in hospital for nearly 3 weeks with ‘Covid’ apparently, I say apparently because he had a positive PCR test which we know are more wrong than right. His oxygen levels were very low and he was put on high oxygen. They wanted to incubate him but my cousin said no! They refused to consider Ivermectin because there was no proof it worked for Covid🙄. He’s had an Xray of his chest and there is some scarring, my cousin said he had a nasty cough last year which lasted for a couple of months, so is this Covid or just the NHS ramping up the fear factor for Winter?

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

Intubate.

Bella Donna
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Thanks

Encierro
4 years ago

We need another name for the Daily Mail they keep using headlines screaming anti-vaxxers.Here is another written by Winkcock.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-10004495/MATT-HANCOCK-time-never-come-group-dangerous-anti-vaxxers.html

badgeman
badgeman
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

That Hancock article is a new low, even for the Mail!.

caipirinha17
caipirinha17
4 years ago
Reply to  badgeman

Most of the comments posted on it are vomit inducing. No mention of midazolam anywhere…

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  caipirinha17

There were only 50 apparently, most of them probably moderated, so nothing to write home about.

wendy
wendy
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

Hancock shows he is a natural immunity denier yet again, does not acknowledge these vaccines do not stop transmission, oh I could go on picking holes in the article but my head might explode. The propaganda in that article is shocking.

webtrekker
4 years ago
Reply to  wendy

Hancock should be strung up, given no food and water, and overdosed with Midazolam.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

The mendacious little b@stard! I couldn’t even finish the article, the urge to stamp on my device was so hard. Mind you his ugly little mug in the image in the article, under my foot, would have very satisfying.

wendy
wendy
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Glad your reaction was as strong as mine Helen. It shows just how mendacious or dumb Hancock is. Discredit anyone who attempts to raise issues by calling them antivaxxer, dismiss anyone in the population who is not grateful to government and pharma as crazy and ungrateful, having no insights into limits of vaccines and how mass vaccination might be harmful.

I don’t know how the vaccine thing will end but I can’t see how they will continue with whole population vaccination on an annual basis, so perhaps they will step it down when the WHO declares the pandemic over? But I foresee if you are going to be employed in health, social care or any public sector job mandatory covid and flu vaccination will be required. It might be pushed back but anyone trying will get labelled anti anti vax. I don’t know what our future holds but I am glad we found each other here for support.

isobar
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

‘Daily Excrement’ would seem more fitting!

Health Seeker
4 years ago
Reply to  Encierro

I think part of what’s going on with The Daily Mail is over-compensation for having given credence to Andrew Wakefield’s ideas. I don’t say this to dismiss any legitimate safety concerns there may be over MMR or any other vaccines, but the stuff linking them to autism was fraudulent. Pharma and those wanting to indulge in some easy pro-The Science™ virtue-signalling used the opportunity to wage a culture war and The Mail feels it has to take sides.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Health Seeker

Which is part of the tactic – using the generalized term ‘anti-vaxxer’ to link a rational scientific view on gene therapy to a fraudulent campaign.

But perhaps Hancock is an asset – as long as people are reminded that he was sacked for blatant hypocrisy and deception.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

There seem to be 2.8k comments listed, 1.5 comments listed for Sarah Vine’s article about having compassion for Boris Johnson but they don’t seem to be visible.

Encierro
4 years ago

I have noticed over the past few days that comments on the Daily Vaxxer is a little up the creek. For example; Top of page suggests loads of comments and below there are none.Maybe they have been hacked and the website has a virus?

Mark
4 years ago
  • Melbourne Freedom Protest Highlights” – Video footage of the protests in Melbourne on Saturday.

Australia’s finest, showing the world what they’re made of.

https://twitter.com/Resist_05/status/1439202909971836936

Video of the event in question:

https://twitter.com/John92318516/status/1439179867476561922

See that big fat uniformed thug, who violently pushes the lady over, casually pepper sprays her in the face and swaggers off as if he’s a big hard man? He needs to face consequences. Also his little Hitler accomplice, watch him bending over to spray pepper into the face of the old lady on the ground threatening nobody, then stand up as tall as he can make himself and stride off, waving his pepper spray as though he’s done something fine and worthy.

Utter scum, uniforms notwithstanding.

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Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Another view of the incident:

https://twitter.com/Ipredictedthis/status/1439259726227771393

Let’s face it, there are good and bad in all police forces everywhere, and it’s a job that requires toughness at times. But when that hardness is turned against the weak and utterly non-threatening, for peaceful protesting, merely because that protest is seen as politically unacceptable, a line is crossed, both individually by the more thuggish officers such as the two involved in this incident, and institutionally, by the organisation as a while.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Funny though, hardhat workers took their meal breaks in the middle of a busy Melbourne street on Friday because they couldn’t use their lunchrooms. Because covid. Where were the police? Nowhere near the workers, so far as I know.

wendy
wendy
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

They should be prosecuted. What they are doing is unnecessary to prevent a crime, they are gratuitously injuring that woman. It is really the equivalent of kicking someone.

Lowe
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The Daily Mail article quoted in the News Round Up has the picture captioned as “One man was seen holding his face in agony…”
I notice the Russia Today site correctly notes this is a 70-year old female, knocked to the ground, and then pepper-sprayed (what sort of “policeman” does that?). It also carries some comments highly critical of the police.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Lowe

LOL! I’d missed that comical Daily Mail piece in the Round Up. Again, worthy of Pravda at its cynical best.

The Daily Mail article quoted in the News Round Up has the picture captioned as “One man was seen holding his face in agony…

I liked the sheer manipulative nudginess of: “Two law-abiding women wearing masks watched on in horror as protesters clashed with police in the inner-city

See how the Good Citizens are shocked by the disgraceful behaviour of these antisocial hooligans!

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys

some great comments in the article in the mail article –

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10005077/Their-apocalyptic-warnings-proved-inaccurate-experts-Governments-ear.html#comments

Wuhan lab is actually owned by Glaxo Smith Kline. As is Pfizer. Bill Gates more or less owns Pfizer. Bill Gates funds Imperial and Kings Colleges London. Matt Hancock’s wife works for Glaxo. Matt Hancock’s former job was “vaccine modeller” for London School of Tropical Medicine – also funded by Bill Gates. The WHO is funded by Bill Gates. The WHO changed the definition of pandemic – twice. On last count Bill Gates had increased his investment portfolio 20 times since the “pandemic”. I could go on and on here. Get it now?

Bill Gates also funding MHRA Medical Health care products Regulatory Agency in the UK. Bill Gates also funnelling 31m to Chris Whitty through research grants etc. Why is Bill Gates so involved?

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

Clearly he’s taken all those unkind comments about Windows Vista to heart.

iane
iane
4 years ago

This strange idea that GSK owns Pfizer seems to be widespread, but is complete bollocks.

Major Panic in the jabby jabbys
Reply to  iane

LOL – goes to show I shouldn’t believe everything I read…

But is felt so true!!!

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

But he’s a philanthropist, no really he is, no conspiracy to see here…

prod_squadron
prod_squadron
4 years ago

I continue to fkin love Neil Oliver.

DS99
4 years ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

Likewise.

“I would no more seek access to a place demanding my papers than I would attend a dog fight. Those are not my kind of places”. Neil Oliver

wendy
wendy
4 years ago
Reply to  DS99

Yes, we won’t go there and we will find other places together with like minded people.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  wendy

I think they might find them for us…

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  prod_squadron

Heart , head and guts in the right places.

Mark
4 years ago

Furedi has always been reluctant to properly and fully confront the harmful antiracist ideology that he has been culpable in pushing for most of his life, and it’s very noticeable that here he very carefully confines his comments to the approval of the authorities for climate alarmism, to contrast with their heavy-handed thuggery against antilockdown and anti-“vax” dissidents.

But without looking at the wider examples, eg of police kowtowing to BLM types and statue-defilers, while cracking down on statue protectprs, one cannot see the bigger picture, which is one of contrast between elite approved “protest” and elite-hated dissident expression.

And the latter is the truth that needs to be confronted by the likes of Furedi – the degree to which his life’s work has become the dark side.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

with the apparent validation from Caroline Lucas, a politician advocating breaking the law!

Richard Noakes
Richard Noakes
4 years ago

Dr. Fauci: “Heck, No, I Haven’t Been Vaccinated” By Michael Baxter from REAL RAW NEWS The Deep State’s primary Covid-19 vaccine peddler, Dr. Anthony Fauci, boasted to colleagues at the NIH that he has not taken and will not take the Covid jab, said a former NIH employee who claims Fauci personally fired him in June for “violating or considering to violate non-disclosure agreements” pertaining to vaccination protocols. Our source, who wishes to remain anonymous at this time, told Real Raw News that he’d been wrongfully terminated—unjustifiably because he never signed non-disclosure paperwork on the Institute’s Covid-19 policies. And the reason he never signed said paperwork is that he had worked for NIH’s Division of AIDS, which was largely excluded from Covid-19 plandemic response meetings and vaccine development. For ease of reading, RRN will refer to our source as Brian Stowers. RRN has vetted Stowers’ education and employment history, and we found no reason to believe he had a vendetta against Fauci or that he would engage in deception; his credentials seemed unimpeachable. As a Level 2 lab technician, his primary duty at the NIH was spinning blood through a centrifuge and passing results to his superiors. Nothing glamorous. Although… Read more »

Amtrup
4 years ago
Reply to  Richard Noakes

This account of Fauci behaviour agrees perfectly with Alex Berenson’s substack piece about him, ( a few weeks ago? ), the overweening ego etc. … So I believe it. Classic dubious drug dealer who never uses own wares.

Mark
4 years ago

There is a view, though, that says Australia and New Zealand, not Sweden, are the great hopes for the western world. Bear with me, and I’ll try to make the case for that. The Covid Panic has been a huge consolidation and extension of collectivist authority over individual lives and liberty, pretty much everywhere. The longstanding arrogation of responsibility for and therefore power over people’s health and therefore behaviour has been pushed to spectacular new depths of interference, extending even to punishing the expressing of dissenting opinion about the issues involved. Sweden has resisted, to some extent, and provided a great “control” for lockdown and mask insanity, but, firstly, has been relatively easily sidelined, and second has ultimately shared the core harmful doctrines – that covid is a public health emergency and that the state has the responsibility and the right to control behaviour in response. Lockdown dissenters have mostly hoped that as time passes, evidence comes out, and fear recedes, calmer heads will prevail and it will have to be admitted that there was a gross overreaction. The more optimistic hope for some kind of revelatory inquiries and a great reckoning. But this is mostly a fantasy, for several… Read more »

wendy
wendy
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Yes Mark I agree with this. It would seem that people who dissent will struggle. We can keep trying but I do feel that the dominating elite will keep their control.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  wendy

It would seem that people who dissent will struggle.”

If you aren’t struggling, you aren’t really dissenting. You’re just some kind of duped BLM/XR etc type, turning out to justify elite policies and suppress resistance to them.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

A depressing analysis, but seems to me by far the most likely outcome. As far as Aus and NZ go, I’d doubt that the leadership there seriously believe in zero covid any more, if they ever did. I would assume the thinking now is to keep locking down until they’ve fully vaxxed everyone and then drift into something like the situation we’re in – mass vaxxing and boosters, testing, threats of lockdowns, possibly acted upon just to show the threats are real, vaxx passports for various things, travel restrictions. Sadly I don’t think they will push too hard, too fast. I suppose the only optimistic note is that there do seem to be some limits beyond which most governments have not gone, either because they didn’t think it was right or more likely they didn’t think they could get away with it. We had “Freedom Day” here, at the second time of asking, and the promises made have so far been kept, and it has made life a little more tolerable and allowed millions to earn a living again. Obviously it’s not what we need and want in terms of moving on properly, but it’s better than nothing. But one… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“But one could equally view this with pessimism – in knowing when to ease off the gas, the evil loons in charge ensure this nightmare continues for a long time and the slow decline of civilisation continues.”

Indeed. This is exactly how the radical ratchet works.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I think England is a place where things could suddenly flip. In many ways it’s at the centre of the web of lies and I believe that it is potentially heading towards one of the greatest levels of cognitive dissonance of any nation. Openly persecuting minorities within its borders is for example a largely alien concept unlike in many other countries. The UK, but particularly England, culturally prides itself on not engaging in such behaviour. It’s a point of identity. I think that to a person England will struggle to do this with even a remotely clear conscience. I’m not saying it won’t happen, but I think that along with other exacerbating factors it will lead to a very public socio-cultural and emotional breakdown. My experience of the English is that they repress opposition to injustice because through the exercise of soft power injustice has generally been avoided. I’m not sure what led to this. I think a combination of fruitful empire and the necessity for the elites to stay on people’s good side in order to maintain wealth led to a series of unspoken agreements and boundaries. But we are no longer led by these people, and we no… Read more »

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

You express the optimistic view very well, in response to my setting out the pessimistic view. I hope you are closer to the reality of how things will go in the UK than I am.

RickH
4 years ago

““Professor Sunetra Gupta explains the significance of COVID-19 variants.” – How scared should we be of variants?”

Another excellent piece by Sunetra Gupta. Concise, free of bullshit and informative. Gives the lie to all the nonsense about ‘the Delta Wave’ – that sadly finds a voice ATL here at times.

She’s a bit unsceptical about the ‘vaccines’ for my taste, but otherwise the information here should be in every rationalist’s armoury against the ‘Variant’ nonsense.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago

Sometimes it seems as if the media propaganda is working 100%, but then real life happens. A wedding in which covid was never a thing, no masks, no distancing, then a UK holiday, going into shops unmuzzled where the staff smiled. The push back has to be continuous and bold, the compliant are the problem.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

I think I would say that it’s not a ‘push-back’ – more a neglect.

The propaganda fear switch can be thrown again very easily.

DanClarke
DanClarke
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I agree for some, but I was surprised by some relatives I met up with who had been almost covid hysterics, masking, distancing, talking about mass graves, the whole bag, who are now voicing doubts about the whole thing.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

We can but hope.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  DanClarke

This is good.

Far fewer masks and paranoia here, though it took some time after “Freedom Day”. OTOH I just watched someone leave a neighbour’s house, masked, get in her car and drive away still masked.

IMO while some become more cynical others will go the opposite way. Don’t know yet which side will be more numerous. The forthcoming lockdown and remasking will be key.

RickH
4 years ago

 I cannot even be bothered to discuss the, er, lack of usefulness of loose cloth masks again. If you don’t get it, you don’t get it.”

I can empathize with Hitchens over this. I have increasingly felt that arguing rationally on the basis of overwhelming evidence is a lost cause when you are dealing with the sort of programming by propaganda that has taken place.

I am astounded that the recent egregious acts of potential child abuse are greeted with such a lack of fury by individuals who would have previously been up in arms about infringements of personal liberty. I’ve even had one such chide me for using the serious term ‘child abuse’ to describe such a well-intentioned policy!

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I have increasingly felt that arguing rationally on the basis of overwhelming evidence is a lost cause when you are dealing with the sort of programming by propaganda that has taken place.”

Indeed. You can’t reason someone out of a position they have adopted for reasons other than reason (as various people have said in various forms over the years).

I am astounded that the recent egregious acts of potential child abuse are greeted with such a lack of fury by individuals who would have previously been up in arms about infringements of personal liberty. I’ve even had one such chide me for using the serious term ‘child abuse’ to describe such a well-intentioned policy!

And then they will support a policy of injecting children with a treatment that is net harmful to them, “for the greater good of society”!

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

We seem to be in agreement, Mark. 🙂

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

And very much not for the first time.

Our differences are real, but so are our points of agreement. Such is life.

RickH
4 years ago

Neil Oliver’s piece to camera is really excellent. I think that he is eloquently capturing the feelings of many in the sanity camp.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Neil Oliver’s a little sentimental for my tastes, but I generally agree with him on the substance, certainly on covid issues:

[Vaccine passports] will not exclude me from anywhere I want to be… anywhere demanding such an abomination from any citizen is nowhere I would enjoy being‘”.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago

Since Jan 21 I’ve seen increasing number in Britain subtly defying – it’s our way, it works. Seeing reports of number on peaceful demos is a morale boost for others of same opinion who would otherwise feel alone and their cause hopeless. So many individuals ‘accidentally on purpose’ forgot about lines, arrows and sanitising stations that retailers in area quietly removed or moved them out of our way. Many ways of making inches add up to a mile and of acting as a group. A hundred individuals separately ‘bending’ the rules rapidly becomes a thousand and out-numbers police who can’t deal with widely scattered ‘mishaps’. Whenever a demo goes violent it damages its own cause in the eyes of those who support the cause but not violence. Violence is counter-productive. Government wants us to resort to violence, giving it an ideal excuse to hit us all even harder. If you’ve ever encountered an obstinate person, you’ll know how very effective obstinacy is. Government can over-come violence and will be ready for it but there’s no over-coming obstinacy. MK Gandhi, Martin Luther King and Nelson Mandela called it ‘passive resistance’, I call it obstinacy. All 3 were combatting extreme, powerful repression and found that violence didn’t… Read more »

thedarkhorse
4 years ago
Reply to  Anonymous

Nice bit of thinking, unreg.

Anonymous
Anonymous
4 years ago
Reply to  thedarkhorse

Thanks, but all I did was think back to my school-days and progress from there

Mark
4 years ago

Nice pickup of some of the Aussie uniformed thugs getting a bit of proper response:

https://twitter.com/LozzaFox/status/1439535095623335938

Good stuff. Hope a few of the uniformed thugs woke up with some injuries comparable to the ones they were dishing out. Shame it wasn’t the two who pushed over and pepper sprayed an elderly lady.

Great tackle at 0:17. This guy’s played a bit of rugby.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

And the comical Daily Mail response, more worthy of Pravda than anything approaching a free press:

Cowardly moment protester wearing a black hoodie attacks THREE cops as anti-lockdown demonstrators overpower officers in Melbourne – and police blame ‘angry males’ for the violence
The story admits that the police initiated the violence by trying to forcefully prevent the protesters from expressing their dissenting opinion to the Australian government’s disgraceful, totalitarian behaviour, but comedically still tried to blame the victims for responding to the repression to which they were subjected.

As for calling the bloke who charged a mob of police thugs equipped with protective gear, batons and pepper spray a “coward”, well personally I’d like to see the “journalist” or editor who wrote that text tell him so to his face…

Oddly, no mention in the Mail, that I saw, of the disgraceful, thuggish pushing over and pepper spraying in the face of an elderly lady by these state enforcement operatives, posted in the comments here earlier.

swedenborg
4 years ago

Not read the Spectator article (behind paywall)discussing the lack of response in the Italian public. It can be the strange seeing support of the Draghi administration from Salvini’s party but according to this report lots of demonstrations in Italy against covidpass

https://twitter.com/rosenbusch_

18.09.2021, Großdemonstrationen gegen Gesundheitspass, Bilder aus: Mailand, Rom, Neapel, Turin, Genua, Padua, Cagliari, Livorno, Florenz, Bologna, Trento, Modena, Verona, Brescia, Udine, Treviso , Triest. 120 weitere Städt

DJ Dod
4 years ago

Meanwhile, our Dear Leader reveals her vaccine passport plans…

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Lowe
4 years ago

I notice the Daily Mail article about the Australia protests does not seem to allow for comments…I wonder why…