Wales to Introduce Vaccine Passport Checks at Nightclubs and Large Events Next Month

Vaccine passports may have been ruled out in England (for now), but the Welsh will be forced to prove they have been vaccinated or recently tested negative for Covid to get into nightclubs and ‘large events’ from next month. Sky News has the story.

From October 11th, anyone over 18 will have to show either an NHS Covid pass proving their vaccine status or a negative test result in order to enter nightclubs, indoor non-seated events for more than 500 people, outdoor non-seated events for more than 4,000 people, and any event with more than 10,000 attendees.

The Welsh Government said the measure is being introduced to help reduce the spread of coronavirus as infection rates reach “high levels” in the country.

A Covid pass shows if a person has been fully vaccinated and also if someone has had a negative lateral flow test within the past 48 hours.

A nightclub trade body had warned First Minister Mark Drakeford that Covid certificates would have a “hugely detrimental impact on trade, and would result in some of the hardest-hit Welsh businesses losing out to those in England”.

In a letter to the First Minister, Benjamin Newby from the Night Time Industries Association added: “With no criteria to identify ‘nightclubs’, and with local authorities differing in licensing conditions, any implementation of vaccine certification will be inevitably arbitrary.”

He warned there would be confrontations between staff and annoyed customers, and potential fraud.

The Lib Dems and Conservatives in the Senedd also expressed concerns and called on ministers to not implement the scheme.

Mr Drakeford has also encouraged everyone to work from home if possible and make sure they are fully vaccinated, but said the alert level will remain at zero for the next three weeks.

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Splattt
4 years ago

Inevitable once Sturgeon said it was happening.
What she does, Drakeford copies.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

They’re both just being used as test runs for imposition in England.

The social credit score apps are the end game, and always have been.

Jo Starlin
4 years ago

An abomination like absolutely everything else in this carnival of sick, depraved criminality. A temporary bonus for a lot of venues in Chester, Bristol, Shrewsbury, Birkenhead and numerous other English towns though.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

Don’t forget Liverpool.

Owens57
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

Chester hospitality has definitely benefited in the past 18 months from the ever more draconian Drakeford.

Annie
4 years ago

It’s about four weeks since the slimy little abortion said there would be no vaxports in Wales.
About par for the course for the rapist’s dad.

Mr Dee
4 years ago

https://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/politics/vaccine-passports-wales-covid-drakeford-21569801

Drakeford: “I have lost count of the number of meetings I have sat through with UK ministers in which they have lectured me about the necessity of vaccine certification. When I have raised with them the ethical, the legal, and the practical issues that need to be resolved, I’ve generally been treated as though these were details that ought not to get in the way of this necessary course of action.”

So it seems that the pressure on him to adopt vaxports came from Westminster.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

And he caved in. What a surprise.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

Why didn’t he raise the bloody obvious point that the experimental medical procedures don’t stop you catching or spreading the coofs, and so vaxxports do not and can not have any health or infection control purpose?

Mr Dee
4 years ago

Incidentally, a lad on my daughter’s college course took the jibbyjab recently, and subsequently his lips swelled up, severely. I bet he doesn’t report it on the Yellow Card system.

John
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

That is an allergic reaction, it MUST be reported at least to their GP. If this was a first dose then a second one could be fatal, it may also affect future non covid vaccinations or medications.

Squire Western
Squire Western
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

Keep that quiet! Girls seem to like their lips puffed up like so many trout – they’ll be off for the jab straight away!

Dave Angel Eco Warrier
Dave Angel Eco Warrier
4 years ago

DS is getting like the Daily Mail. People will not be ‘forced’ to show a passport or proof of a negative test. As always, there is a choice. Granted, it is not a palatable choice but it’s a choice nonetheless.

Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
4 years ago

Soon to be a choice of take the vaccine or you’re sacked. Why are you hung up on semantics.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

Because he’s a prat.

Squire Western
Squire Western
4 years ago

Only the sort of ‘choice’ you get from the mafia – ‘we’re going to make you an offer you can’t refuse’.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

Well, Dave, if you have a choice between swallowing a whole packet of rat poison, or stabbing yourself to death, that is also a choice. Not a palatable choice, but it’s a choice nonetheless.

chunky lafunga
chunky lafunga
4 years ago

I’ll explain it for you nice and slow Mr Eco Warrier. No one is disputing whether or not we are being offered a choice. People are angry because it isn’t a FREE choice. If the same people offering you the choice can restrict your rights based on your decision then the choice is no longer free. And the choice maker is therefore being coerced or ‘forced’. Geddit?

Matt Dalby
Matt Dalby
4 years ago

However much people may hate Boris for abandoning “conservative” values such as individual freedom, and I hate him as much as the next person despite voting Tory for the first time in 2019, seeing what’s happening in Wales, Scotland, the U.S., a lot of Europe etc. regarding vaccine passports the English should actually count themselves relatively fortunate to have him as their leader. I’m pretty sure that if Corbyn had been elected then England would be far more like France or Australia than it is.
Just to make it clear, I’m not saying I like Boris, just that without him things could well have been even worse.

Mr Dee
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

See my earlier post. De Pfeffel’s minions leaned on Drakeford to adopt Vaxports in Wales. My feeling is wales is a testbed for England. And also Corbyn was not a member of the trilateral commission as his predecessor is. Drakeford is Starmers puppet, and starmer is singing from the same hymnsheet as the PM.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Mr Dee

Oh, like the poll tax in Scotland? That didn’t end well did it?

Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

When they’re introduced in England, the circumstances for ‘Plan B’ will be engineered, they’ll be stricter than anywhere. In Parliament, Javid called them ‘vaccine only Covid status certification’. No vaccine, no entry.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

I concur with that. The ‘woke’ left has outdone itself in demonstrating that it’s really an enemy of mankind hell-bent to inflict as much destruction and suffering as possible solely to avoid having to admit their own human limitations and fallibility: Fiat corona, pereat mundus.

These people can never again be trusted with anything.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Agreeing with Matt Dalby, oh dear me!

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  Rowan

I’m aware of what’s presently going on in Germany and I’m very glad that I don’t live there at the moment: Corona is essentially non-existant there, yet, coronameasures much more heavy-handed than anything the UK ever did are ubiquitous. To use a personal example: The UK government has never stopped me from taking solitary walks in the night. In Germany, this was prohibited for a long time.

Apart from that, I’m agreeing with a statement and not with something you believe about a person unknown to me.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

The German corona protesters movement was removed from Facebook today (after having been long banned from YouTube). German people’s reactions? Mostly overjoyed with schadenfreude that the “stupid troublemakers” were finally silenced. Also, in front of a local entertainment park (only for vaccinated and tested; soon to be only vaccinated), all parking spaces taken. Germans just don’t mind when the government fucks them, they cry “harder”.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

The German default assumption is – and has always been – the state is our organization.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Is the Taliban still on Twitbook?

To be honest, I’m surprised German corona protesters were using them.

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

You don’t seem to know what you are saying, clear off.

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

Oh do FO.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

But not Piers Corbyn.

Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

It’s getting worse

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

I don’t why this post has attracted 17 downvotes. I despise the PM and if I believed in it would like to think he will be condemned to eternal damnation, but given the general direction that the only likely alternative – Labour under Starmer – have taken on covid, to say things could have been worse seems like quite a defensible position to me.

Whether such speculation is useful is another matter. Given the direction globally taken by many governments of supposedly different political stripes, and leaders of supposedly different types, it’s hard to draw much of a conclusion. The countries/states that have resisted are something of a ragbag – a combination of places where the leaders had balls, respect for the law and for real science, a culture of respect for personal freedom, freedom of speech, and wariness of state overreach, and poor countries that simply can’t afford all this stupid nonsense.

I think it merits more of a debate than simple downvoting, though perhaps now is not the time.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Matt Dalby

The jackboot has already been raised, it just hasn’t stamped on English faces quite yet.

Victoria
4 years ago

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Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

✅👍

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  Victoria

I do wish I could be there but now I am in Thailand.

Will there in spirit though.

Mayo
Mayo
4 years ago

Uttar Pradesh Covid statisitics:

Population ~240 million
Fully Vaccinated: ~15 million (6%)

latest 7 day average new cases: 17
latest 7 day average deaths: 3

Apparently UP have been using horse de-wormer to treat Covid. They clearly have no idea what they’re doing.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Mayo

See, this is why we shouldn’t be hogging Our Vaccines for booster shots. We have to help out these simple natives by ensuring a socially just equality of outcome in coof infections.

Nikola.Tesla
4 years ago

What a cock up…

Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
4 years ago
Reply to  Nikola.Tesla

Yep, the global lockstep is purely coincidence.

Nikola.Tesla
4 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

Anyone not seeing the incredibly easy to read playbook by now needs their head examined. Increased cases/every year pressure in the NHS, generally called winter. Vax passports in England to “save Christmas”… Again. “We don’t want to do it, it’s this or lockdown blah blah poor old Boris, vaccines have made a huge difference, that’s why we need less freedoms with no end date” Carers will begin to be given the boot from next week, increased pressure and deaths in care homes. Next the frontline NHS staff are forced to get flu and covid vaccines, or the boot. More guaranteed methods to create pressure. Then… Everyone, as per Italy? Civil unrest from adopting Nazi papers, no point pretending this is anything other than the 4th Reich now. Oh sorry, Klaus likes to call it the 4th industrial revolution, silly me. Shortages and issues with supply chains around the world. That’ll end well. Oh no, the world economy is broken after we doubled the money supply in a year and FORCED offices and businesses to close, it helped us to steal the last of the wealth during this final round of musical chairs. Well, don’t worry about that, here’s your UBI,… Read more »

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Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
4 years ago
Reply to  Nikola.Tesla

👏🏻

huxleypiggles
4 years ago
Reply to  Nikola.Tesla

Brilliant.

Freddy Boy
4 years ago
Reply to  Nikola.Tesla

✅👍👍

debra
4 years ago
Reply to  Nikola.Tesla

Well said!

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

Well, countries and regions are goose-stepping at different paces, but all towards the same destination.

Jo Starlin
4 years ago
Reply to  Nikola.Tesla

I often accidentally introduce horrific curbs on liberty at prearranged press conferences. Happens all the time. Clumsy.

Lilacblue
Lilacblue
4 years ago

These numbers cannot possibly have any scientific basis whatsoever. Sitting/standing, it’s an absolute farce.

Norman
4 years ago

Absolutely non-sensical.

martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
4 years ago

Covid stands for Certificate Of Vaccination ID

Amtrup
4 years ago

I wouldn’t be at all surprised.

Freddy Boy
4 years ago

That sounds correct !! 🤦🏼‍♂️

amanuensis
4 years ago

So they only want people with higher risk of catching covid in the nightclubs?

Is this because they like covid and don’t want it to go away?

martinbritnell83
martinbritnell83
4 years ago
Reply to  amanuensis

I honestly don’t think they want it to go away. They will keep demanding people stupid enough to take more and more vaccines. They all have a financial interest in the vaccine companies. Plus they love the control.

Squire Western
Squire Western
4 years ago

Does Drakeford actually have the power to do this? I wish someone would challenge it in court.

wantok87
4 years ago
Reply to  Squire Western

Sadly he does because Health is a devolved area. How we had devolution on the totally i democratic decision made on a 50% turn out –
Yes559,41950 
No552,69849
Hence we have Blair’s democracy for us and even more idiocy than Boris which is a very low bar!

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  wantok87

Since the experimental medical treatments don’t stop you catching or spreading the coofs, and since you can self-certify as being unable to get experimented on and yet still get a vaxxport, this demonstrably has nothing to do with health.

Jo Starlin
4 years ago

Horrible, sneering hit piece at the Telegraph about principled care workers refusing the vax. Incredulous tone notes that one “refusenik” has personally comforted six residents dying of rona in the last fortnight.

At no point, none, does it dawn on the writer that all the residents that died will have had the double jab.

FFS.

Judy Watson
Judy Watson
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

I guess the un-jabbed care worker didn’t get the rona?

Nah it would be tooooo much for the msm to report that.

Richy_m_99
4 years ago
Reply to  Judy Watson

Very much akin to the narative of the Funeral Director who had the interview posted yesterday relating his experience during the last eighteen months.

Every body that came in to the funeral home was washed and dressed by him and his staff, who wore only gloves and an apron, just as they always had. Neither he, his wife or the mortician who worked for him have contracted covid despite none of them having been jabbed.

It is a thought provoking video, especially when he gets to the accusation that almost every one of the deaths this year have been due, to to C-19, but to the “vaccine.”.

IanC
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

Or that the Jabbies who kept their jobs are more likely to pass it to the vulnerable inmates who have also been double jabbed, than their former non-jabby colleagues who can no longer care for the vulnerable inmates cos they were sacked for having an opinion FFS.

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  Jo Starlin

And on the other side very likely most health workers will already be immune.

Jo Starlin
4 years ago
Reply to  chris c

Yep. If they’ve been working in care homes for 18 months during the deadliest pandemic evah! and remain in good health then they most certainly are.

sjonesy1999
sjonesy1999
4 years ago

These people are an absolute joke.

Noumenon
4 years ago

Bye bye Wales!

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago

My other half is doing some work for an intensive care nurse. She is absolutely scathing about the vax. She told him that more young people are being admitted to intensive care, and most, if not all, have been double jabbed.
People think that the double jab gives them absolute protection against the ‘rona, then find it doesn’t. Clearly they are not being told the full story, or are not bothering to check it out. This makes this nurse very angry.
I wish she would speak out about who really is in intensive care, but she fears for her job if she does.

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago

Wales? Ever been there? Why on earth would Wales decide to implement a draconian measures like passports for a failed vaccine? The only reason could have something to do with the acceptance of a large amount of dosh. And guess who provided that? But that probably is just a guess, I am sure the politicians in Wales are highly intelligent and their medical knowledge better than most.

wantok87
4 years ago
Reply to  marebobowl

In Wales we are led by leaders with no scientific education …. Hmm guess that seems universal in these Sceptred Isles?

wantok87
4 years ago

1)You can get into certain venues by showing you are double vaccinated.
2)If you are unvaccinated you can get into those same venues by showing you are not infected with a lateral flow test
3)Those who are vaccinated may be infected and transmit virus
HENCE- In these venues – stick close to the unvaccinated because they are the safest!

Sadly our leader is an acolyte of Lady Macbeth in Scotland.

thinkcriticall
4 years ago

COVID-19 VACCINE EXPOSED!
BIG ANNOUNCEMENT – Veritas To Release COVID-19 Vaccine Whistleblower Bombshell – Messages Pouring In. Big announcement Monday:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIs-PY_uYDs

Emerald Fox
4 years ago

“nightclubs, indoor non-seated events for more than 500 people, outdoor non-seated events for more than 4,000 people, and any event with more than 10,000 attendees.”

Seems pretty innocuous – who even goes to events like this? All seems a bit silly anyway – for example, an indoor-seated event for 500 people does not require a ‘vaccine pass’ but one of 501 people does? Is it that one person extra that activates the virus?

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Lots of people I know go to events like this, including my kids who now face a test of character as to whether they choose to give in or stand firm

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Who goes to events with lots of people?

I hope that was an example of irony rather than morony.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

It’s the thin end of the wedge – they will gradually extend as they wish.
Remember that Wales is led by a socialist labour government so of course they want to control everyone.

JohnK
4 years ago

With any luck, large numbers of potential clients/customers will declare on arrival: ‘no consent, exempt from this policy’. Backed up by threats of legal action, such as claims for damages under discrimination etc.

Richard Austin
Richard Austin
4 years ago

Complete stupidity reigns completely it seems. Let us assume we have a Theatre with 2,000 seats and all the 2,000 tickets are sold. Nobody has to be vaccinated yet they will be sitting next to each other. Take away the seats and they all have to be vaccinated yet they are standing next to each other.
It’s a bloody clever virus if it knows when you are sitting down and quite possibly lies in wait for those foolish enough to walk to their seats rather than teleporting into them.

TheBigman
TheBigman
4 years ago

CALLED IT!

Starts with the wee countries like Scotland and filters from there.

No I'm Spartacus!
4 years ago

A Covid pass shows if a person has been fully vaccinated and also if someone has had a negative lateral flow test within the past 48 hours.

So you have to be double jabbed AND tested negative to gain entry? Have I read that right?

If I’m wrong, then you can get in with just a negative LFT test?

Is this test supervised? If not, then easy peasy to get round it.

Julian
4 years ago

I think the standard model is double vaxxed OR negative test. You don’t need both. I think the tests are easy to get round as unsupervised so for people who feel desperate/compelled it’s an option. Personally I’m not intending to go anywhere that requires me to show my covid status as it amounts to supporting the madness, but I appreciate people will be in difficult positions over this.

Rogerborg
4 years ago

It doesn’t matter if you “get around it”. You’re not beating the system, since the goal – for now – is simply to habituate us to proving our innocence and begging for permission.

That will change, soon enough.

Peter W
Peter W
4 years ago

What a spineless, ignorant drip of an excuse for a 1st minister Drakeford is. Pathetic!

chris c
chris c
4 years ago

What about the sheep? I think we should be told.

imp66
imp66
4 years ago

Come November and it’ll be ‘reluctantly’ rolled out in England, too. These authoritarian f*ckers can’t contain themselves.