Health Secretary Attempts to Outline What Could Trigger ‘Plan B’ This Winter

Just as plans for vaccine passports at ‘large venues’ left us wondering where exactly the measures would be enforced, we have been left in the dark about what will push the Government to enact ‘Plan B’ (including mask mandates and vaccine passes) or ‘Plan C’ (another full lockdown) this winter. Health Secretary Sajid Javid attempted to clarify the issue this morning but was coy about the specifics. Sky News has the story.

The Health Secretary has said A&E pressures and increasing Covid hospital admissions could trigger the Government’s Plan B for the winter – as experts warned hospital admissions could reach 7,000 a day.

Sajid Javid added that a new variant of concern would not necessarily be a trigger as he refused to rule out a lockdown.

Plan B, which includes mandatory face masks, a work from home order and vaccine passports, was revealed by the Government on Tuesday as part of the autumn and winter plan for dealing with the Covid pandemic.

The Health Secretary told Sky News: “What happens in the NHS is going to be hugely important to me, to the whole country, making sure that we don’t get to a position again where the NHS becomes unsustainable.

“I think we’re going to have to look at a number of measures, so of course that would be the level of hospitalisation, it will be the pressures on A&E, the pressures on the workforce, so we’d have to take all of these together.”

However, he refused to put a number on how many cases or admissions would trigger plan B.

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Hopeless
4 years ago

More gaslighting.

nickbowes
nickbowes
4 years ago

I really don`t care what happens with the NHS and will not comply to anything that these shysters come up with.

I have fake documents/id if needed. F.. you commies.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

I agree with the sentiment, but have to note a couple of things.

  • You don’t need a fake vaxxport. You can just self-certify as unable to be dosed, and get a real vaxxport. Which is how we know that they have nothing to do with vaccination or infection.
  • Presenting a fake vaxxport or ID is still complying with the system. The act of presenting them to every hi-vis outsourced Stasi who demands them is the point.
Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

How do you do that? The self certifying bit?

BurlingtonBertie
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

It’s in the legislation & can be read on the .gov site

Paul B
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

The NHS app/vax passport was reported to have a self certify feature, but that they were looking to close that ‘loop hole’ and require medical proof in future. Don’t give an inch, this is their tactic. Now they have cemented passports as an option in the public consciousness when they are brought in it will be accepted unless we refuse to play into their game.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Paul B

No all cause mortality data for “vaccinated” compared to “unvaccinated” equals no free and informed consent, therefore one cannot be legally “vaccinated”.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Hypatia

I’m not sure about the specifics, as I don’t have a vaxxport and am a Scotch anyway. But see https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-covid-pass and

Exemptions for domestic use
If you have a medical reason which means you cannot be vaccinated or tested, you may be asked to self-declare this medical exemption.

ArtC
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

I’d like some of those!

Jabba the Hut
Jabba the Hut
4 years ago

The use of made up none contextualised figures provided by the ONS and PHE and of course at little modelling from Prof Ferguson.

Rogerborg
4 years ago

What do muzzle mandates, social credit score apps, and mass criminalisation of normal human activity have to do with health, or the Ministry of Health?

PatrickF
PatrickF
4 years ago

What could trigger plan B is the Government saying ‘we are triggering plan B.’
Don’t look for reasons, health, ‘science’, logic. It’s all part of the Agenda. All planned. All in place.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  PatrickF

And “the Government” doesn’t mean Westminter, Downing Street, or even the Whitehall Mandarins. It means the Beijing Mandarins, and the Davos oligarchs who issue Grosse Leader Johnson his orders.

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Spot on. Via the Faucist pseudo scientists like Whitty, Vallance, Mengele … oh, sorry, he was last time.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Sandra Barwick

Are you sure Mengele isn’t still around?

Rowan
Rowan
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

He’d be struggling to keep up if he were.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

If 60 million Brits died of the lockdowns and suicide and death from the jabs, Javid’s mate Xi Jinping will just move 60 million Chinese into Britain. I expect the British Muslims won’t like that, but they’ll get used to making soft toys and iPhones in the concentration camps.

Splattt
4 years ago

Meaning like everything else they have no plan, no criteria and just going to wing it.
The same as the traffic light system and all previous lockdowns.

They arent organised enough to even have a basic set of criteria to use for any policy.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

You’d only need a plan if you were actually interested in making a difference to public health

As it’s all political, they will absolutely want to wing it so they keep their options open

NonCompliant
4 years ago
Reply to  Splattt

Why provide details from which you can be later attacked and ridiculed when the media is unwilling to turn against you?

RickH
4 years ago

Note : There is no plan to meet a minor increase in demand – just more alibi concoction for throttling provision.

You have to be pretty dim not to see through the contradiction.

yohodi
yohodi
4 years ago

Any ideas as to how to rid ourselves of this rotten idiotcracy?.. Though I have a feeling they are just a front for the puppet masters..Question asked anyway..

Sandra Barwick
Sandra Barwick
4 years ago
Reply to  yohodi

No strong leader for our side has yet emerged. We are at the basics, the grassroots business of refusing to comply ourselves and trying to open others’ minds. The fact that most people now know someone jabbed who got the virus quite markedly has undermined their narrative.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  yohodi

Garden forks and rope still on sale in B&Q and Homebase.

Hopeless
4 years ago
Reply to  Emerald Fox

Plenty of lampposts and trees still available.

Norman
4 years ago

Were these the same modellers who told us to expect hundreds of thousands of cases a day from the delta outbreak?

Smelly Melly
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Not forgetting the 500k deaths and mass graves. Can somebody direct me to one of them so I can pay my respect to all those great grand mothers and great grand fathers who died untimely deaths.

Emerald Fox
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

Neil Ferguson had millions of animals killed during the Foot & Mouth outbreak, even kids’ pet ponies slaughtered in front of their eyes. What a sick and twisted individual he is. And he still has the cheek to show his face, and not just shagging another man’s wife but having her travel across London to his pad during a lockdown when Neil himself said that everyone had to stay at home!
And no face masks for the Conservatives in Parliament needed because “they know each other” – they are laughing in your faces. There is no virus.

CrouplessCoup
CrouplessCoup
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

2020 may have been the year of hyperbole as well as deceit but will 2021-22 be unrecognisably more severe?
There were these which may or may not be COVID19-related:

https://www.publiccontractsscotland.gov.uk/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=MAY415504

https://bidstats.uk/tenders/2021/W23/752550337

(temporary body storage facilities); and

https://www.contractsfinder.service.gov.uk/Notice/4aed5711-c38a-447d-bf8d-40c87c3a7788

NHS Framework Agreement for the supply of Direct Oral Anticoagulants – check the contract value.
There appear to be two reasons *at the very least least* for fearing potentially more casualties:

— the experimental “vaccination/s” have not only brought serious side effects in a short period of time but also induced resistant virus strains:
https://www.americaoutloud.com/covid-q-a-with-dr-peter-mccullough-part-2/

https://media.blubrry.com/voiceofanation/b/ins.blubrry.com/voiceofanation/COVID_Q_A_with_Dr_Peter_McCullough_Part_2.mp3

@56’24 [citing new addition at cdc.gov in the variants section as of (3) September] “…we are now at 99% delta in the United States… so it’s THE FIRST TIME WE’VE HAD A SUPER-DOMINANT STRAIN AND THE REASON BEING IS THE MASS VACCINATION HAS PROMOTED THE SUPER-DOMINANT DELTA…” [my emphasis]

— the apparat’s denial of stay-well kits utilising HCQ, Ivermectin etc and preventive medicine generally – Dr McCullough is a leading light on the treatments btw. These have been deployed in the developing world, but sidelined in the first world in favour of experimental gene therapy.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Norman

And the same ones that predicted 4000 deaths per day last October. No one remembers or cares.

Hypatia
Hypatia
4 years ago

Ooh, ooh, I know!
It comes in for any month which has the letter “r” in its name!
Easy!

jingleballix
4 years ago

19th July 2021 = ‘Freedom Day’ because so many have been jabbed.

15th September 2021 = Claw-back Freedoms Day because…….eerrr……..because eeerrr?

Fear is Finite
4 years ago

When all you have to do for your career is to appear to be better than Matt Hancock, and you can’t even manage that.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Fear is Finite

Let’s hope they are both good at oakum picking, because that’s all the career prospects they have.

7fonn7
7fonn7
4 years ago

Hiding behind the NHS… Reminds me of how our wartime “leaders” in the US hid behind “support the troops.” Different country, same tactic.

caravaggio57
4 years ago

javid has been well schooled by the cretins in control

WTF has Starmer and his crew of inadequate s been doing. Open goal on the deliberate lack of investment in increasing NHS capacity in the last 18 months and reduction of capacity in the last 10 years. What do we get. Nothing.
Same question to the MSM. Nothing.

it’s not about health or the virus.

marcusc
4 years ago

Fk the nhs !!

NonCompliant
4 years ago

I don’t read most of these parrot styled articles anymore, I just look at the comments lol.

Anything reporting what some goon from the Dictatorship says is pointless since they’ll just say something different tomorrow.

john ball
john ball
4 years ago

Parliament will debate petition on Monday to”outlaw discrimination against those who do not get a covid 19 vaccination”. so please contact your Mp to attend and support this petition

Catee
4 years ago

The ‘Health’ Secretary is quoted in the DM as saying that ‘they don’t have to wear masks in the House because they aren’t strangers’…… Seriously, he apparently said it with a straight face.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

And because they’ve been eating Scotch eggs.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Ok, then, let all the un-napped just say “we’re not strangers!” Actually, I’m getting to actually know a lot of the un-napped in my town…!

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

Plan A: have an elephant fart repeatedly in the face of Kim Jong Johnson.

Plan B: have a hippo belch in the face of Kim Jong Johnson.

rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago

What will trigger Plan B?

Cooler temperatures.

rtaylor
4 years ago
Reply to  rockoman

Yep, winter and low vitamin D people too scared to go out or covered up with face diapers.

HaylingDave
4 years ago

Ah yes:

… as experts warned hospital admissions could reach 7,000 a day.

And if they don’t? Then no harm done, eh? Just a little scare mongering and panic stirring. All in a days’ work.

8bit
8bit
4 years ago

“You can just self-certify…”

So, the whole thing is again revealed as a monumental sham. ‘Self certifying’ yourself exempt from an apocalyptic plague certificate is a logical non starter. It’s equivalent to ‘self certifying’ yourself exempt from the mandatory security-theater-screening at the airport. Total nonsense.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  8bit

Yep, same with the face covering nonsense. If it worked and was really necessary to prevent infection does anyone seriously think the rules would be so loose? Any old bit of cloth, borrow ’em or lend ’em, toss ’em in the bin or just on the road- must be worn while ordering food but not required while you sit and eat said food a few feet away- it all works people!

realarthurdent
4 years ago

Their plan B is of course actually plan A.

They know that introducing the boosters and vaccines for 12-15 will result in a new wave of cases and illnesses and death – they have seen it already in Israel.

This will give them justification for more lockdowns, more control, push again for vax passports, and press on with the next stage of their plan.

Uncle Monty
4 years ago

If ‘Plan B’ is contingent on a scenario where the NHS is overwhelmed, it is a safe bet that we will be fully signed up to Klaus & Bill’s digital ‘papers please’ global totalitarianism by Christmas.

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BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago

How long till we get into the “Save Christmas” stage again?

Wakey wakey

steve_z
4 years ago

they should dig out the pandemic response plan that they threw in the bin last year. it would make more sense then this ‘making it up on the hoof’ bollocks

RW
RW
4 years ago

The reason why he can’t put a numer on that is because the expretzels haven’t stopped demanding that mask mandates, social distancing, generally browbeating the hospitality industry etc must immediately be reintroduced to avert a certain future disaster ever since they failed to stop them being abolished in July.

Before they were abolished, they literally claimed this would create the conditions for a global disaster because of careless Britain. Then, they predicted 100,000 – 200,000 case per day, supposed to happen in the first weeks of August unless …, then came the “schools reopened COVID tsunami”, meanwhile, it’s “7000 hospitalizations per day inevitable unless …” and should the government stick to its guns until 2050, they’ll probably still be demanding mask mandates now lest the world goes under in a fortnight.

Ideally, these people would be removed from all public offices and prosecuted. But we’re not there yet.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

It’s hard to tell whose hand is up whose arse, but SAGE et all are employed by the govt and can be sacked if the govt decide they don’t like the messages being sent out. I think we have to assume SAGE are kept around because the govt find them useful.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Prosecuted for what? I don’t think that even utter wrongness or delusion is actually against any law. Keep it real.

The thing is – nobody has to listen to the SAGE types as the epidemiological gospel. But this government wilfully chooses to do so, and The SAGE types happily feed them what they want.

But it’s clear who is the prime mover.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

Plan B being part of Plan A.

Bella Donna
4 years ago

I’m really sick to death of this government and the Plandemic. I’d put a different meaning on Build Back Better by getting rid of the whole damned lot of them including the Civil Service!

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  Bella Donna

That’s been my position for 30+ years, apart from the pandemic of course but there’s always been something to get the hand wringers running around screaming. Eggs? Beef? Asbestos? Aids? Lead in petrol? New Ice Age? Not forgetting of course global warming or whatever they’re calling it at this moment.

Noumenon
4 years ago

What WILL trigger “plan B”?

Klaus Schwab