Covid Flip-Flopping is Cock Up, Not Conspiracy

I’ve written a piece for Mail+ today trying to explain communications omnishambles of the past few days. Here is an extract:

Boris Johnson has executed so many U-turns in the past 18 months, it’s as if his solution to the supply chain problem is to retrain as an HGV driver. But even by this Government’s standards, the past few days have seen some spectacular flip-flopping.

Will vaccine passports be introduced for nightclubs, sports stadiums and other large venues? Judging from the string of contradictory ministerial statements about this, the answer seems to be: “No, but, yeah, but…”

The week began with Boris saying he wanted a “bonfire of Covid regulations”, only for him to give a press conference yesterday warning of more restrictions to come this winter.

Then there was Professor Chris Whitty’s bizarre remarks on Monday about vaccinating healthy 12 to 15 year-olds, which will have left most parents none the wiser about whether it’s a sensible precaution or not.

The only thing Boris seems to have set fire to this week is his last vestige of credibility.

According to some cynics, this conflicting advice is a deliberate attempt by the Government to gaslight us. Trying to discover some rhyme or reason beneath the recent spate of back-of-the-envelope announcements is to misunderstand what Boris is really doing, which is to deliberately confuse us.

In their conspiratorial eyes, it’s designed to soften us up for the mass rollout of ID cards, digital currency and – eventually – a Chinese-style social credit system in which anyone who challenges the billionaire-financed technocratic elite will be socially isolated and financially impoverished. They refer to this diabolical plan as ‘the Great Reset’.

I’m not convinced. As a journalist who has been writing about politicians and their shenanigans for more than 30 years, I’m a subscriber to what’s known as ‘Hanlon’s razor’ – never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity. In other words, it’s usually cock-up rather than conspiracy. Most politicians I know couldn’t even reset their alarm clocks.

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Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago

I don’t care about cock up or conspiracy he’s is the worst of humanity How globalists convinced BILLIONS of people to exterminate themselves with biological weapons presented as “vaccines” https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-09-14-vaxssassination-how-globalists-convinced-billions-of-people-to-exterminate-themselves-with-biological-weapons-presented-as-vaccines.html Stand in the Park Reading River Promenade Reading  Sundays from 10am  Telegram https://t.me/standindparkreading Stand in the Park Bracknell South Hill Park   Sundays from 10am   Wednesdays from 2pm Make friends – keep sane Telegram http://t.me/astandintheparkbracknell Upcoming peaceful anti lockdown events Saturday 18th September 12pm   at Chequers meet up point as below Coombe Hill Car Park Lodge Hill, Aylesbury HP17 0UR yellow boards with other banners and maybe a little protest outside BJ mansion 11:30am Saturday 18th September   Grand Stand in the Park   Grove Park (nr basketball court),  21 Mill Ln, Carshalton SM5 2AN  –  Dr Niall McCrae (Workers of England Union) Anna De Buisseret (Lawyer) Kate Shemirani Sunday 19th September 2021 12pm to 3pm  Surrey’s Super Stand in the Park ,  Stoke Park,  Nightingale Rd,  Guildford GU1 1ER. – after your local Stands!! Monday 20th September 5pm Big Yellow Boards roadside event  Pavement outside (Morrisons The Peel Centre),  Skimped Hill Ln, Bracknell RG12 1EN Saturday 2nd October 2pm  GRAND STAND IN THE PARK BERKSHIRE – with a couple of guest speakers and a stroll thought the town… Read more »

Rogerborg
4 years ago

Have you considered starting your own forum?

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BungleIsABogan
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

Have you considered getting a life?

BeBopRockSteady
4 years ago

Doesn’t take all the politicians to run this agenda. Many are just career politicos who, if they get too close, get bumped or are happy to be paid off with the role they’ve set their career on.

The global think tanks and their funders. The financiers are where it is at. They have been handing policy to these political bozos for decades, they hardly contribute a single brain cell. What they do know however is that if they don’t do what they are told, there are consequences.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

If it’s needless coercion, fear mongering, systemically irrational, it is conspiracy I’m afraid. By their fruits shall ye know them.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

The evil genius of this scheme is that it does not take conspiracy or coercion – too many people, including politicians, have been simply convinced that it’s in their best interests to stick to the same agenda. Kind of like nobody dared speak out against inquisition.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

But that is part of the plan!

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago

Toby you are wrong.
There might be incompetence along the way but the overall direction is the conspiracy of totalitarianism. The direction is relentless and the same globally. Lock-step as the WEF put it. It’s like Bitcoin, highly volatile until you step back and the general trend is consistent, until CBDC perhaps.

Ceriain
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

^^^^ This! 100% this!

Too many countries in lock-step, as @Think Harder says, for it not to be planned. No way so many governments are this incompetent.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Ceriain

The “lockstep” is occurring just because idiots like to copy policies of other idiots, and idiot cover-your-ass-don’t-step-out-of-line feedback loops are created in the process of it. It’s really self-perpetuating once a critical mass is achieved.

Hopeless
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Herd instinct, as distinct from herd immunity.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Yes, I’m sure these slimy opportunists will use this to their advantage because that’s what they do, but I agree that it’s a case of not wanting to be courageous and do anything different – avoid blame at all costs! It’s why pension funds and the like all crash at the same time- if a fund manager thinks somethings up and pulls out of the market no one will thank them if they’re right but they’ll likely get fired if they’re wrong and the market goes up, whereas if all the funds get caught in the crash no one gets blamed as it’s ‘unexpected’ and happened to everyone.

WeWantEvidence
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Well, yes, there’s the group-think phenomenon. It takes a really strong-minded person to resist the “consensus” if the first to speak sets a contrary course. In this case, the Chinese spoke first and said, “lockdown is the way to beat this”. Ferguson the Fraud admitted that SAGE didn’t think that general curfews would fly in the UK, but the fact that the Italians did it and got away with it emboldened them. However, we need to consider that the planning and preparation for this has been going on for decades. Hundreds of thousands of teachers, NHS staff and Civil Servants have been through Common Purpose training and have been conditioned to respond to trigger words and automatically think along the lines of the “common purpose” for which they have been trained. A deliberate policy of dumbing-down education has been in place. “Wokeness” is destroying critical thinking and debate in academia. The use of “nudge” methods has been formalised. There’s a feedback loop where the results of the NLP and hypnotism used in communication with the public is measured and the inputs adjusted. So much of this is deliberate and planned that it’s ridiculous to blame it all of incompetence and… Read more »

DomTaylor
DomTaylor
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

I agree. The fact that there has been incompetence and cock-up, even a large amount of cock-up, does not stop the underlying agenda being conspiracy. It is clearly an international conspiracy, hence unsurprising that UK politicians fluff up their lines from time to time and even get cold feet now and then. However, the vast amount of evidence presented to Reiner Fuellmich’s Corona Committee definitely points to conspiracy. Personally, I am of the view that the key to understanding this conspiracy is the Chinese Communist Party’s (CCP) desire to become a world super-power and for their brutal totalitarian style of ‘government’ to be internationally accepted. Bill Gates, the WEF, SAGE, Big Pharma, Big Tech and Mainstream Media all trace back to CCP money, collaboration and influence. We ignore this, by brushing off events as a cock-up, at our peril.

annicx
4 years ago
Reply to  DomTaylor

I think this is just politics in the 21st century- it’s been going this way for a while now- more regulation, less freedom, more ‘we know best’, and on it goes. This has just brought it into sharp focus.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  DomTaylor

Then how do you account for the established fact of the involvement of the US Intelligence Agencies and other so called Health Agencies – NIH/Fauci – in funding of GoF research, the patent history of which has been very inconveniently set out by Dr David Martin. With respect , it is too easy to dump on the CCP, malign as they are; there are clearly others involved here whether or not for the same reasons as the other ‘Actors” – GAVI/WHO/BMG/WEF/Schwab/Big Pharma..

PartyTime
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Yes, much of it is overt totalitarianism – the heavy censorship and the wall of taxpayers’ money keeping the media in line, the banning of peaceful protest, the online harms legislation, legalisation of criminality by the secret services and the proposal to extend the Official Secrets Act to outlaw government whistleblowing.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

It’s a self-fueling mix of cluelessness and cowardice. You don’t need sneaky conspirators when you can just send directions to clueless cowards who will gladly copy other such.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Bitcoin’s “general trend” is the general trend of any ponzi scheme – until it collapses, more people pile in because of fear of missing out. And yes, there is an equivalent in the covid policy – basically most policy decisions are made out of fear of making a blamable mistake, and the mistakes are only perceived as blamable if they differ significantly from those made by other people. In other words it makes sense for a politician to jump on the bandwagon rather than oppose it, just like it makes sense for a bitcoin gambler to believe that they are going to the moon rather than that the pyramid scheme will collapse on them.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

Going off topic. Bitcoin, or let’s consider crypto in the general, is no more a ponzi scheme than fiat currencies. Even when they were backed with gold you could argue that gold’s intrinsic value is way less than it trades for. Value is the value people put on something as much as its industrial use value. The point of currency is a means of exchange and if crypto is widely accepted it is a good currency. I would argue the fact that it is not easily controlled centrally and has a limited supply makes it a better currency than the dollar.
However, because it democratices the monetary system I doubt it will survive as is. Somehow governments, central banks or the investment whales will take control. Which is a shame because it could accelerate trade, innovation and equality.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

It is very much a ponzi scheme because unlike fiat which is backed by economic power and guns, it’s not backed by anything (think casino chips, not gold, as closest analogy) and because real (non-crypto) money is continuously sucked out of the system through the mining operations and fees. So there is net less left in the scheme than has been paid in (which the funders would very quickly realize had they tried to pull out all at once). As for “not easily controlled centrally”, that is true, although the shady Tether company appears to have taken the FED role of printing new money out of nothing by emitting their own unbacked tokens (>60 billion dollar worth of them as we speak) and using those to pump up the price of all the other cryptos. So you could say the crypto market is today centrally controlled by Tether. The lack of regulation also enables all sorts of customer abuse by the crypto exchanges (e.g. front-running, wash sales) that have been long banned from established finance. However, most crypto customers – brainwashed and young – are too naive to even notice how much they are being scalped. Also, the lack of… Read more »

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  rayc

“Also, the lack of transparency makes cryptos a paradise for money laundering and financing other criminal activity.”

I think more money has been laundered through traditional banks. Admittedly, they have a somewhat bigger share of money passing through. But crime is not a reason to stop crypto just as crime is not a reason to impose totalitarianism or electronic tagging.

“fiat which is backed by economic power and guns”
Well that’s ok then! That is just another way of saying might is right. Maybe having a token that is not politically controlled and abused is a good thing. Maybe the economic power and might could be global demand for a fairer monetary system.
Yes, I know a pipe dream probably.

Malcolm Ramsay
Malcolm Ramsay
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

“fiat which is backed by economic power and guns”

Well that’s ok then! That is just another way of saying might is right. Maybe having a token that is not politically controlled and abused is a good thing.

What official currencies are really backed by is the fact that governments accept them in payment of taxes.

Maybe having a government that is not politically controlled and abused would be a good thing. Unfortunately, that’s unlikely to happen until significant numbers of people start taking constitutional issues seriously – and there doesn’t seem to be much sign of that yet.

For what it’s worth, I’d say we can’t expect to have a healthy economic system based on a hoardable currency, because that’s one of the main drivers of inequality. That’s one of the reasons central bankers want to get away from cash – because making it lose value when it’s taken out of circulation is technically very challenging.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  Malcolm Ramsay

“we can’t expect to have a healthy economic system based on a hoardable currency”
That’s unavoidable and if you made currencies un-hoardable then it would simply be another asset. An even bigger issue would be who decides and controls what and how much is hoardable.

Malcolm Ramsay
Malcolm Ramsay
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

I should really have said “a hoardable medium of exchange”. For the reasons outlined in that monetary reform piece I linked to above, a truly healthy economic system would need to separate the medium-of-exchange and store-of-wealth functions of money so that the medium of exchange loses value if it stops circulating at an acceptable rate. It would be technically challenging but it is certainly feasible.

I totally agree that the bigger issue would be who decides and controls what and how much is hoardable but then, that’s true for pretty much every aspect of organised society: if we don’t have effective mechanisms to ensure (as far as is possible) that governments operate with integrity, and put the interests of the public ahead of their own, then we can’t expect any part of society to function well.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Cryptocurrencies smack more of the South Sea Bubble, the Back Tulip and the Dotcom BoomBust … to me.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

“Black”…..sigh

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

They might be but they don’t have to be. But if you think bits of paper are better … besides most of the money in circulation is digital already. Watch what happens when everyone tries to ask for their money. It doesn’t really exist physically, a small proportion of it is paper.

marebobowl
marebobowl
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

One word, Australia. Take a look.

Rogerborg
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

Agreed, Toby is desperate to concoct any explanation except for the simplest ones.

Now, normally that’s incompetence, and malicious cross-briefings.

On this though, no. We’re talking about policies which (e.g.) France, Israel, and the Dwarf from the North are pressing ahead with. In Queen Nicola’s case because she has no capital with capitalists – all her cronies are public sector parasites.

Grosse Leader Johnson may be an oily oik, but he’s oozed his way close to those with power, and is able to beg retail and business oligarchs to implement the New Normal through contracts and policy, rather than having to mandate it by statute – yet.

Don’t fret though: once the Scotch have ironed out the wrinkles, and once “voluntary” compliance has capped out, we’ll get mandatory social credit score apps in civilised climes, as well as a return to muzzles and punishment criminalisation of normal human activity.

How many times does Toby have to get fooled before he figures this out?

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  Rogerborg

That’s what the new UK super-prisons may be for. What’s worrying is the rumour they all have their own crematoriums. They certainly look way bigger that the 1600 capacity claimed.
Can anyone validate?

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

Toby

It wasn’t your readers that invented the Great Reset ‘in 2030 you won’t own anything but you’ll be happy’ it was the World Economic Forum who are running our economies into unprecedented unmanageable debt with Prince of Wales as signatory. It doesn’t look like an accident and people are naturally concerned.

Health Seeker
4 years ago

The way the WEF comes up with such a maxim and seems to think it will sound appealing rather than Orwellian, makes them look incompetent to me. They can’t have even hired a public relations consultant.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  Health Seeker

I suppose it ought to make them look silly: unfortunately an awful lot of powerful people these days do look very silly.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago

Debt is “OK” until you cannot service it. Assets acquired by debt is “OK” until you cannot service it – however defaulting collateralised debt is a House of Cards – witness 2008; debt worldwide has grown massively since then.

Noumenon
4 years ago

It’s simple. I said elsewhere that this “flip-flopping” is a stalling tactic. They want to attack business and the people again a la last winter but without announcing it soon enough for people to prepare or object. They want the sudden introduction of restrictions and hysteria to bowl everyone over in the dead of winter.

They can’t pull back because then they lose justification, but equally they can’t go all out yet.

Noumenon
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

They also need a good take-up on the children’s vaccines so they can hardly admit it doesn’t work which lockdowns would suggest.

Annie
4 years ago
Reply to  Noumenon

The whole of Plan B is an admission that the snake oil doesn’t work.

Health Seeker
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Paradoxically govt is saying that if the vaccines fail over winter as you suggest, they will revive plans to coerce everyone into taking them. What proportion of people are propagandised/stupid enough to accept this obvious contradiction?

WeWantEvidence
4 years ago
Reply to  Health Seeker

Unfortunately, a lot. It’s probably the majority who have been conned into joining the Covidian Cult. It has all the attributes of religious cults. People sincerely believe that masks reduce transmission of viruses and that a national (or regional) “lockdown” saves lives. There doesn’t have to be solid evidence, because it’s a matter of faith, not of Science. Likewise, you don’t need solid evidence that the Covid jabs are both safe and effective. So much hype went into the build-up to the rollout that people truly believed that the jabs would be the ONLY way out of a “deadly, unprecedented pandemic”. It never even occured to them to question the words “deadly”, “unprecedented” or “pandemic”. It doesn’t occur to the Cult members to question the word “vaccine” either. Thus it’s implied that the Covid jabs are just as effective as, say, the Smallpox Vaccine that “everyone knows” wiped out the disease. It wasn’t a mistake to call the novel technologies “vaccines”, it was deliberate. Decades of effort have been put into promoting the established vaccines. It’s sad that this fraud is likely to set back confidence in established vaccines for a generation and it has already caused the virtual collapse… Read more »

Arum
Arum
4 years ago

I don’t want this government’s actions to be the result of evil, but it’s harder and harder to believe that it’s all just cockup. In fact it would surely have to be classified as a megacockup, possibly even a gigacockup.

Squire Western
Squire Western
4 years ago

‘Hanlon’s razor’ sounds like it should be renamed ‘Hancock’s razor’ to me!

huxleypiggles
4 years ago

To describe what’s going on after eighteen months as “cock-up” is sheer bloody stupidity.

And I say this as a firm fan of Toby’s for all he has done both here and via the FSU.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Exactly – even a cockup combined with politician’s inability to admit mistakes can’t cover it

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

Sorry TY, have to agree with HP – it has gone far far beyond cock up – the after effects will be ingrained in what is left of the UK’s “Society” for generations imho. That is the result of criminal incompetence initially but now is culpable malfeasance in public office, again imho, Lawyers may disagree.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

Irrespective of the reasons why, this shower, ‘led’ by Johnson, has to go.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago

But who would replace them?

Mark
4 years ago

I’m personally biased towards Toby’s cockup side rather than conspiracy, based on many decades of watching human elites who collectively struggle to organise anything. But there clearly are conspiracies going on, and just because there are elements of individual incompetence and inconsistency doesn’t mean there isn’t an overall direction of events. In this regard, I think the case made specifically for Toby by James Delingpole’s recent guest, Dan Tubb, was quite a good one (from about half an hour in): https://delingpole.podbean.com/e/dan-tubb/ Basically, he describes a situation in which elites are collectively moving towards a situation to resolve a common problem they face with the imminent collapse of the inherently flawed economic model based on unlimited state spending using fiat currency borrowing. It doesn’t require a world-spanning organised conspiracy, just lots of rich and powerful people and organisations pushing in similar directions, based on shared incentives. But for instance, Toby’s denial that the regime’s flip-flopping is “part of a conspiracy” is probably wrong in some particulars. For instance , it seems clear that there are very powerful people and groups who see a replacement of money with state controlled digital currencies as a necessary change, and “vaccine” passports as a necessary… Read more »

PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Sort of sums up how I see it. I’d just add that in our PM’s case, he’s essentially been tagged as a populist leader by the globalists that he still wants to hang out with. He appears to be flip flopping from populist to globalist, in an attempt to stay afloat.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  PoshPanic

Yes. We desperately need populism to resist the ongoing elite misrule, and that’s what drove Brexit and support for Trump. Johnson clearly recognised the wave and tried to jump aboard, but he’s not really a populist, just an opportunist. His problem is that the elites would never really respect him as a serious candidate for leadership

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I thinkTrump and Brexit hastened these changes. I think it shocked and scared the elite. It wasn’t their plan. We were supposed to remain and Clinton was supposed to win.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

As frequently said – ‘populism’ – the button-pushing of no-think is what we’ve got.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

And as frequently pointed out to you – opinion manufactured by state and elite propaganda is not “populism”, indeed it’s almost the opposite.

Populism is an organic rising up against elite misrule, of the kind that has been pushing us for decades in all the political correctness and collectivist directions of the politically and culturally dominant left.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

The extent to which the mixed messages are deliberate or accidental may be debatable.

But if anyone tries to convince me that the senior cabinet members and SAGE sincerely believe for a moment that covid is an emergency and that any of the nonsense they cook up bears any relation to reality, I don’t buy that. These are not stupid men and women.

Knowingly perpetuating this situation for political gain is a conspiracy, and it’s evil.

I don’t think you need to get into digital currencies or social credit systems or any of other stuff which may or may not be on their minds. Quite simply, like the war on terror and the war on drugs, the war on covid gives politicians the chance to expand their powers with little criticism while appearing benign, to spend money they don’t have, and to give contracts to their rich mates, who will give them jobs. This is not remotely surprising – politicians have been doing this since time immemorial. It’s not some elaborate theory, it’s par for the course.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“Quite simply, like the war on terror and the war on drugs, the war on covid gives politicians the chance to expand their powers with little criticism while appearing benign, to spend money they don’t have, and to give contracts to their rich mates, who will give them jobs. This is not remotely surprising – politicians have been doing this since time immemorial. It’s not some elaborate theory, it’s par for the course.“ These are the ongoing conspiracies, plural, to which I referred. “I don’t think you need to get into digital currencies or social credit systems or any of other stuff which may or may not be on their minds.“ These are things that are happening and are being pushed towards by multiple powerful individuals and groups. The point is to answer the question posed by Toby of “why would rich and powerful people push towards a destruction of the existing financial order? What’s in it for them?” And by and large, it’s just not credible to claim these people are doing so because they expect to be feudal rulers over a slave population after wiping out billions of people. That’s just not how most people think. “But if… Read more »

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“This is functional stupidity, where people convince themselves that something is true because it suits their ideological agendas and personal interests to believe them.”

Maybe. But if you’re elected to high office and you are making exceptionally big decisions about the nation, restricting liberty in an unprecedented way, then this stupidity if you want to call it that, amounts to malice.

I’ve never claimed the PM et al are trying to destroy the world’s financial system. They might be, but I doubt it. A doubt they give two hoots about it one way or another, per se, beyond how it might affect them in the short term. They are just enjoying the easy power covid gives them, and getting away with stuff they know they wouldn’t get away with normally.

Nothing on earth would convince me Whitty and Vallance believe kids need to be vaxxed.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I’m not sure it matters if it is malice or stupidity, as far as elected politicians are concerned. As I’ve noted many times before now, they are responsible for what they’ve done.

Nothing on earth would convince me Whitty and Vallance believe kids need to be vaxxed.”

It’s looking less and less plausible that they could convince themselves of that. but then you have to explain what motivates them, or what rationale they use in their own heads to justify what they do. Because it almost certainly isn’t that they want kids injected in order to cause them harm.

In their case, the assumption might be that they are being blackmailed or pressured, but then you have to explain what motivates those doing that to them.

In the end, you come back to are they part of or pawns of an evil conspiracy or are they or whoever is pressuring them just desperately trying to cover their backsides for what has already been done?

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“but then you have to explain what motivates them”
Simple – ego. They think they are more valuable than others.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“I’ve never claimed the PM et al are trying to destroy the world’s financial system”
That’s already been done! In 1971 when Nixon dumped the gold standard and in 2008 when QE got out of control to save banks that should’ve gone bust. I.e. saving a bust system. They know QE will not work forever as it becomes exponential. It allows the West to skim money from low salaries in the developing world. It can’t continue forever but the shock wave of stopping would cause collapse. But stop it will have to and Western standard of living will drop proportionate to our productivity. That might cause a level of civil unrest that would unseat or even kill the elite. Hence they must enslave us to save themselves.

They could’ve tried honesty and leveling with us. That would save their necks but not their wealth and position.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

Yes. Willful actions need not be based on anything particularly sophisticated. All you need to do is step back and ask the fundamental political question “Cui bono?”.

The financial system – which had been captured to be almost solely as a freed-up mechanism for transferring concentrated resources upwards finally collapsed in 2008, and has been on life support.

Covid has been a mechanism for the further perpetuation of the process of upward wealth transfer in this capital-driven crisis.

I don’t think that all political leaders and acolytes are part of a sophisticated design – that’s where ego-based ‘stupidity’ comes into play. But ‘cui bono?’ includes other drivers – power and control, significance-seeking, control of communication – all of which play to a basic willed script rather than an accidental cock-up. It’s the capture of significant transnational bodies by key interests which is crucial in defining what we call ‘conspiracy’, rather than all-embracing shady meetings of politicians.

Various other agendas can be pulled in to bolster the trajectory.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“That’s just not how most people think.”
It’s not how the majority of people think. It is how some people think, history is littered with them.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

“I don’t think you need to get into digital currencies or social credit systems”
You do if you believe they are part of the plan along with COVID and the plan is total control. CBDC, electronic id are possibly the end game not COVID. I just hope to god depopulation is not the objective. I hope the vaccines are not bio weapons in disguise. 2 years ago I would’ve considered myself a nutter. Now I simply hope I have extreme anxiety and it is cock up. This is one situation in which I hope to feel like an embarrassed idiot soon.

crisisgarden
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Very astute interpretation which I almost thoroughly endorse. However I think there’s something else at work here too: a concerted attempt to sow division. Think about how the corporate media have been dong this relentlessly in the US along racial, gender, and (faux) political lines. Then we have the Trump phenomenon which sent this into overdrive. Now, the coup de grâce: vaxx vs antivaxx, two new tribes who each see themselves as morally and, dangerously, biologically superior. It’s a recipe for civil war of the most hideous and old-fashioned kind. Have the financial overlords decided to foment civil war to distract the masses from said collapse?

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

“period of adjustment to this new order.” The problem is the restrictions and controls of the new order will last longer than necessary because the “elite” have such hubris and over confidence they actually believe enslaving us is fair and reasonable! I, similar to you, think one of the big drivers for what is happening is the imminent collapse of the global economy. The other is the shift in power to a more democratic world that Big Tech was enabling. The elite could see power and their extreme wealth about to drain away. The economic bubble will burst because constantly increasing the money supply beyond productivity increases will make the economies increasingly fragile. They know this but they can’t get out of it in the normal way and it works well as a tool to shift wealth (and hence power) back to the sole ownership of existing elites. Gates and Bezos are not buying land because they’re avid farmers – it’s because the value of land doesn’t evaporate in a collapse. War used to do the trick but with Nukes it’s too dangerous now. They tried to get the level of fear needed through terrorism but that failed. Climate change… Read more »

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

“Have you noticed how terrorism seems to have stopped?” Depends entirely how you define it: “They are not stupid men and women, in a basic mental agility sense. This is functional stupidity, where people convince themselves that something is true because it suits their ideological agendas and personal interests to believe them. And the reality is that the issues involved here are sufficiently complicated that it is easily possible to shape your interpretation to suit your own needs” Very astute; I do not want to fall into that trap Mark sets out, but if “terrorism” is the action of enforcing aims, ideologies, rules on someone by “any” means, including violence and the threat of violence in the absence of the rule of law, I cannot see how “terrorism” has stopped in the UK; it is just State enacted – induced harm by a programme of “vaccine” roll out accompanied by propaganda, mendacity, incomplete presentation of official statistics etc etc is violence; enforcement of guidance by organs of the State ( see how the language of revolution creeps in …must stop that ) is actions enforced “in the absence of law”. I think large numbers in the UK have not thought… Read more »

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

Look at recent UK political history – who did Blair wish to “be like” – the filthy rich, a status with which New ( and “old’, multi property owning ) Labour were/are very comfortable as described by Mandelson, a factory worker from Sedgefield, or a “global” figure of stature and influence who’s opinion is valued worldwide…fast forward, who does Johnson emulate and who does he consider he wishes to emulate – who does mean if he were to say ” I am most like you “.

I cannot help thinking of the parallels between him and his wife and Prince Harry and Ms Markle….maybe I am wrong.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

I agree with you.
I meant terrorism has stopped from the usual suspects. Which makes me think it was being used as a tool but failed to generate the required level of fear so COVID has replaced. I mean put yourself in the position of an Islamic terrorist. There couldn’t be a better time to make things even worse.

Paul B
4 years ago

The pick-up artists used to use a trick (it’s probably described in psychology as anchoring or something similar, I just remember their use and CBA to look it up) whereby they would propose to a girl they just met so that when they rolled back to just asking for a date or telephone number the latter was almost always provided. If they had just asked for the number they were shut down.

This has just been done with obedience passports, they are now cemented in the public’s conscious as a viable strategy and will be accepted when they ‘with a heavy heart’ are brought in. Suggest the most extreme, then pull back and implement a slightly less extreme version with barely a whimper of resistance. Despite, in the case of these passes their utter illogicality, they aren’t even pretending, they just lie to our faces ‘that they are needed to control a virus’ (which you can still catch and spread after being stuck). It’s clearly a tactic and it’s maddening, immoral, illogical and dangerous.

Society is being re-written before our very eyes.

Quizzical
Quizzical
4 years ago

Heaven help us Bunter as a hgv driver – he would be swerving between lanes so much there would be bound to be a jacknife

BungleIsABogan
4 years ago
Reply to  Quizzical

It’s OK he probably wouldn’t make it out of the yard.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago

I think we ought to ask about Prince Charles endorsing the Great Reset and what it means. He may not be the monarch yet but he is expected to be, and he is a Privy Councillor so he has clear duties to the realm and this is apparently not an establishment issue.Toby?

huxleypiggles
4 years ago

Aye, let’s put that barmy, useless toe-rag on the spot with Delingpole asking the questions – make the bastard sweat.

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  huxleypiggles

It would be useful to ask him but even more useful to ask our elected politicians – is this some agreed direction of the British state in which citizens have not been consulted: Is it the central purpose of the British establishment to sell us all into slavery? I think we should be told.

Arum
Arum
4 years ago

Membership of ‘Republic’ will surely rise..mind you, they want an elected president instead, so probably just as bad

PhantomOfLiberty
PhantomOfLiberty
4 years ago
Reply to  Arum

Actually, I just wish that family were not screwing up so badly.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

Hasn’t Boris’s mother just died? Apart from anything else, why is he still standing at his dictatorial platform chucking out the orders? Isn’t he allowed compassionate leave? When we were treated to Hancock theatrical performance last year, pretending to blub about his great uncle twice removed, sister’s brother’s wife’s cat’s cleaner”s step-dad, or whatever, we were expected to believe it…

Adamb
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Yes, very odd.

PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

And talking about Nicki Minaj

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

Has she really died, though? What if she was said to not have died, tomorrow. Would that be a cock-up too?

realarthurdent
4 years ago

No Toby, it’s a conspiracy because all of the same things are happening everywhere else in the Western world: booster programmes, vaccinating children, threatening or implementing covid passports, maintaining “emergency” powers.

All in lockstep. France, Germany, the US, Australia, Canada, New Zealand.

It’s not a cock-up, Toby. It’s a conspiracy. A plan.

Boris makes everything look like a cock-up of course, but therein lies his value to Schwab, Gates and the other globalists pulling his strings.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

All of these things happen somewhat synchronously in a lot of countries because they ultimatively come from a coaltion of the currenly ruling forces in the USA (the hegemon) and the word health government aka the WHO.

You could as well have BLM, trans rights and “fifty different genders” in the list.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Yep, all the eco stuff as well.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

The point I was trying to make is that there’s no shady global conspiracy here — just whatever the so-called progressive American left happens to be in love with today spilling over into countries belonging to the American block. Eg, unquestioning 150% execution by the government of the FRG and somewhat independent maybe-adoption by Tory-led Britain while the US left’s fifth column in the UK – wrongly called Labour for historical reason – demands “150%” here as well.

This is – of course – heavily oversimplified.

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

It is the military industrial complex – the deep state. Fascist to the core and owns all the resources…including ours soon.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

All this crap started before the ‘American Left’ got in, though.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

They are happening synchronously because it’s planned! By 2030 you’ll own nothing and be happy.
They haven’t even tried to hide it, but people still look elsewhere for reasons.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

By 2030, the WEF will have published a bunch of more books capturing or trying to capture whatever the zeitgeist was at that time.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

You’ll still be trying to rationalise their behaviour when they’re transporting you to one of the camps.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

I’m not rationalising anything. I’m just not a horse in front of anyone’s cart. Neither of yours nor of the others.

milesahead
milesahead
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

You are trying to convince yourself that what is happening worldwide is not the result of a conspiracy, despite all the evidence to the contrary. You can believe what you like, but you are living in denial.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  milesahead

I’ll happily be both a COVID denier and a Great Reset denier :-).

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

Examine your deep psyche. Do you think it impossible because this is England and it surely can’t be happening here or do you logically see that it cannot be happening?
Don’t answer just give it some thought.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

I do daily – see my post in response to Mark>Julian – the vast majority of the UK population is supine to the “threat” because they cannot conceive that the “threat” can possibly happen here – but it has!

By “threat” I mean the State acting malelovently against its population.

Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

You can add Turkey to that list.

loopDloop
loopDloop
4 years ago

Belarus president said he was offered 100 billion to go along with the COVID playbook. He declined. You need more evidence?

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

He should have provided some firmer evidence since nobody believes the worm

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

The worm in question being the said dictator

James Kreis
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

I believe him.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  James Kreis

100 billion pounds? Dollars? Groats? Bit much don’t you think?

Health Seeker
4 years ago
Reply to  loopDloop

Assuming this is true, it shows declining is an option, for anyone with a backbone.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Health Seeker

Or even with no backbone. Just cant trust a dictator like him though.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

The only relevant backbone is the GoF turn cleavage site insertion in a chimeric SARS virus by the Bat lady and her colleagues…

rockoman
rockoman
4 years ago

delete

dommo
dommo
4 years ago

get your head out of your arse TY

Laicey
Laicey
4 years ago

My take on it is the government feels they need to keep Twitter happy these days. Why the government feels the need to get involved in the first place baffles me.

PoshPanic
4 years ago
Reply to  Laicey

A very good point

TheGreenAcres
4 years ago

Usually I would be quite happy to accept the ‘cockup’ explanation. But vax passports are the globalists wet dream and it’s happening simultaneously all over the world.

RW
RW
4 years ago
Reply to  TheGreenAcres

Vax assports where invented by the so-called “left” US establishment in order to enable vaccination coercion. But they’re not a new idea. They’ve existed forever (in paper form) in Germany (called Impfbuch, if I remember correctly — I haven’t actually seen mine since before I was drafted into the military in 1991).

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  RW

If this was the Black Death and the passports were paper I wouldn’t be so alarmed. But it’s a relative minor disease on a pandemic level. Yes I know it kills people but it really isn’t that bad although I fear it will become bad if required.

Beowa
4 years ago

Cock Up or Conspiracy ?
Blindingly obvious that it is a conspiracy – even Johnson couldn’t f*ck up this badly and for so long

Adamb
4 years ago

I think this “conspiracy” label is getting rather tired. It’s taken to mean some evil cabal who have pre-planned everything for their own malicious ends. In my mind, this situation has been leapt upon by a variety of powerful actors to further their own interests. Happily for them, many of their interests appear to align.

Among these groups I would include big pharma (obviously), the WEF/Gates types who see this as an opportunity to mould the world in their hubristic fashion, green fanatics who see the opportunity to adapt these policies to their ends, academics in the field, health service workers, and yes, politicians, who simply love the sensation of power (and quite probably some vested financial interests to boot). I’m sure there are many more, but these spring to mind.

After 18 months of this, I refuse to entertain the ‘cock up’ argument any longer.

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  Adamb

Yup, I’m with you.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Adamb

You’re right that the term ‘conspiracy’ has become muddied and over-used. It’s about manipulation by a conglomerate of powerful interests.

artfelix
4 years ago

Toby – you’re a good lad and this site has been one of the few shining lights over the last 18 months. But if you really think this is just a cock-up you are staggeringly naive and far too trusting to be a journalist.

RickH
4 years ago

Well defense of a preconception is common.

… and this is one.

I wouldn’t deny that cock-up is there in the mix, but there is also obviously a major (dominant?) component of willfulness along with the incompetence.

I mean, I know the present Tory cabinet is way ahead in the stupidity stakes – that’s always been the case, and I know it’s tough to admit that former mates are so dim as to barely qualify for the category of ‘sentient being’; and recognising sheer venality is even harder.

But the incompetence is backed by a planned willingness to indulge in the patent stupidity.

But I can afford to be clear-eyed, having never invested in the clowns that run this vicious circus.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

As an addendum – I have seen the operation of the ‘cock-up’ explanation tendency in my own family. It is a comfort blanket for those who have a reluctance to admit the truly dark forces at play, and what such implies. It’s a protective Polyanna syndrome.

Annie
4 years ago

It’s perfectly possible to be malicious and stupid at the same time.

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Annie

Exactly.

isobar
4 years ago

I am a great fan of yours Toby and I think that you have given us sceptics a lifesaver in launching this site and keeping it running. But I simply don’t believe that the political events of the past few days have been a cock up. They need to be seen within the global picture of western countries being in ‘lockstep’ as far as lockdowns and the ‘dash for Vax’ is concerned. Add in the censorship by technology companies and the suppression of potentially useful repurposed drugs by many countries. This is by no means a local issue, it’s a global issue that threatens the livelihood and lifestyle of every single living person on this planet. It would seem that our UK government, and those of other countries, has sold us down the river to the interests of Global oligarchs and mega Institutional investors like Blackrock and Vanguard, who just happen to be major investors on Pharma companies that are now guaranteed an income stream in perpetuity from the ‘vaccines’ and ‘booster shots’. This never was and still isn’t about a virus. It’s about a financial reset, clear as mud. Why else would this government persist in using the WEF… Read more »

chris c
chris c
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Correct!

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Don’t forget the Covid Denier leaders who have been assassinated for not toeing the line. Here are two articles about that. See also assassination of heads of state from Haiti and the Ivory Coast Coronavirus and Regime Change: Burundi’s Covid Coup https://off-guardian.org/2020/07/14/coronavirus-and-regime-change-burundis-covid-coup/ Here’s a little summary of Burundi’s recent history:The president of Burundi, Pierre Nkurunziza, dismissed covid19 as nonsense.The president of Burundi was vilified in the Western press.The president of Burundi expelled the World Health Organization from his country.The president of Burundi died suddenly of a “heart attack”.The NEW president of Burundi immediately reversed his predecessor’s Covid19 policies. UPDATED: President Magufuli dead at 61 (Tanzania) https://off-guardian.org/2021/03/18/discuss-president-magufuli-dead-at-61/ UPDATE 20/03/21 – The new President is already being seen in public wearing a mask. Details.After weeks of being out of the public eye, Tanzania’s President John Magufuli has died age 61, according to the country’s Vice President.The global press are reporting the death of Tanzania’s “Covid denying President” with barely disguised glee.The official cause of death is rumoured to be a heart attack, but some are implying it may have been due to the virus. The Economist, for example reports:Many believe the virus was to blame”.As if what “many believe” really means anything.However… Read more »

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  isobar

Sorry but you are incorrect about Blackrock/Vanguard – they only deliberately own Big Pharma where they buy them as part of an “active” management strategy – these two control mega money in passive or quasi passive ETFs – where Big Pharma stocks inhabit the index they track – and this is very significantly simplified – index replication is done by various means, one of which ( the majority) is buying actual stock. If you want to take aim at this , look at who control computer share buying programmes outside ETFs, who actually “buy and hold” these stocks, who shorts them or goes long – which pension funds own these stocks ( that might ire some folks…)

The reason Big Pharma inhabit an index is because demand is created and the market does the rest – if over a period Big Pharma drop out of a particular index, ETFs will, generally, be sellers – would Blackrock/Vanguard ETFs still be villains then?

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  186NO

Interesting.
So who is in financial control, who ultimately owns the Pension funds / programs?
Who realistically will gain from a collapse?

kate
kate
4 years ago

I think Robert Kennedy Jr can sort this one out for us.
He is the person best qualified to speak as his father and uncle were both shot by the same people who are now coming for us. Excellent analysis he provides, by the way.

Toby knows he is talking rubbish, but he will get his knighthood for running this site

The full interview is about half way through the video.

“all of these psychological techniques are designed to overcome critical thought…..”

https://www.bitchute.com/video/hficiXbkqJhb//

Pavlov Bellwether
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

Indeed, Follow the money.

rtaylor
4 years ago

They put in place clowns, so cock-ups are believed to be from their utter stupidity. Their bosses (not general public) put these clowns in place so it appears this way.

More cock-ups will appear on a weekly basis until winter when influenza and coronavirus season begins. Deaths will then be borrowed, as was last year.

Just a thought, how will the pubic know when deaths are from the clot shot rather than the virus. Deaths within 7 days of a positive test (CT over 35 still?) count towards death with Covid-19.

Or at what point will people accept the government are trying to slowly kill you?

kate
kate
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

It is impossible to distinguish between death from weaponised coronavirus (the one circulating atm) and death from the weaponised vaccine, as (especially the booster) is highly likely to cause ADE which is just an over- inflammatory reaction to covid 19 – so that you get pneumonia and die.

The perfect murder.

Anyone over forty dying of a clot or heart attack cann be dismissed as a normal death.

They have overreached themselves by injuring children though.

rtaylor
4 years ago
Reply to  kate

I had a (very) distant relative die from the clot shot. She was 35 with 2 young kids aged 6 and 1. Newspaper link

Doctors carried out blood tests and quickly diagnosed her with a new syndrome called vaccine-induced immune thrombocytopenia and thrombosis (VITT).

Professor Marie Scully, a consultant haematologist at University College London Hospitals, said at the time of Alpa’s admission around 250 people had been diagnosed with VITT in the UK and around 50 had died.

Report reads she took her first AZ shot in March and fell ill that week. If they get the kids it’ll be a blood bath for the next 2 years until Nuremberg 2.0 begins.

Think Harder
Think Harder
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

I think the immediate, short term, adverse events were an unforeseen error. We were supposed to be all jabbed and boosted before unexpected deaths started occurring to be blamed on variants and unvaxed. The variants probably created by leaky vaccines. The real cause could be ADE.

I wonder if without vaccine we would’ve had herd immunity by now and COVID just be another bad cold virus?

ComeTheRevolution
ComeTheRevolution
4 years ago
Reply to  Think Harder

No not unforeseen at all. Mike Yeadon, Wolfgang Wodarg and Doctors for Covid Ethics all wrote to the EMA to tell them blood clots would happen and they were ignored. By printing this crap, you are literally doing the dirty work of these murderous filthbags.

The “shot” permanently damages blood vessels – Dr Charles Hoffe explains D-dimer test
https://www.bitchute.com/video/qiZzCkjEk4PL/

Health Seeker
4 years ago
Reply to  rtaylor

The news story portrays the problem as being only with the AZ shot specifically. This may still be a common misconception.

Annie
4 years ago

I gather that Bozo has been reshuffling his cabinet. Sort of stirring up the muck in the sewage farm.
The intention is obviously to stick knives in the backs of those who want to stick one in his.
Doesn’t either further or damage our cause, as far as I can see…?