Number 10 Plays Down Idea That Vaccine Passports Are Dead and Buried

Less than a day after Health Secretary Sajid Javid announced the scrapping of plans for vaccine passports later this month, Number 10 has clarified that passes could still form a “first-line defence” against a winter wave of Covid. Reports confirm the fears of some Tory MPs that we’ve not heard the last of vaccine passports yet. The Times has the story.

Number 10 says checks on the vaccine status of people going to nightclubs and other crowded events remained a crucial part of the Government’s winter Covid plan due to be unveiled by the Prime Minister tomorrow.

They will no longer be introduced automatically at the end of this month, however, after pressure from Tory MPs and the hospitality sector.

When he outlines options to deal with a potential third wave this winter Boris Johnson is expected to warn that mandatory facemasks could be reintroduced and work from home guidance reinstated. He will also make clear that checks on vaccine status could still be a legal condition of entry to large events. …

In an interview with Times Radio yesterday Sajid Javid… described vaccine passports as a “huge intrusion into people’s lives”. He said: “You have got to be really, really certain that’s what you want to do. We have looked at it and whilst we will keep it in reserve I am pleased to say that we will not be going ahead.”

Javid added that with more than 80% of the population vaccinated he was not sure it was a necessary tool to increase uptake.

Downing Street insisted, however, that vaccine passports remained an integral part of the Government’s plan to reduce transmission in the winter if hospital admissions continued to rise. …

The decision [to scrap plans to introduce vaccine passports at the end of this month] means that Covid measures in England again deviate from those in Scotland, where a motion on introduction of passports was passed in the Scottish parliament on Thursday. A decision is expected in Wales next week. Stormont ministers have yet to reach an official position.

Worth reading in full.

Stop Press: Guido Fawkes has compiled a video of Government ministers flipping and flopping over vaccine passports. As Julie Hartley-Brewer pointed out, it would be funny if the issue wasn’t so serious.

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Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago

Same old story…

No more lockdowns! … well… until we want more lockdowns…
No plans for vaccination passports! … well… until we want vaccine passports…

This is why they refused to make it a criminal offence for MPs to mislead the public (https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/561730). Without lies, they wouldn’t get anywhere!

steve_z
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

without lies they’d have nothing to say

Lockdown Sceptic
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

Let’s hope the courts in the UK rule against the Johnson Gang
Courts Will Rule Against Biden on Vaccine Mandate Penalties: Alan Dershowitz 
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_morningbrief/courts-will-rule-against-biden-on-vaccine-mandate-penalties-alan-dershowitz_3993461.html?utm_source=morningbriefnoe&utm_medium=email2&utm_campaign=mb-2021-09-13&mktids=33de9f9c08142a21e91e56f801e2202f&est=z9Rp7%2Bgoa1ZPfQVqlpXkkfoDWLdVOGW0AiMiqWx8PS9jypTG0cp%2BLyuGtAtaR1GpAfTk

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Lister of Smeg
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

If there was such a law, they’d so few MPs left they wouldn’t be able to form a cabinet, let alone a government.

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  Cristi.Neagu

Yes but why on earth are people still wearing masks not even”still” how did some stupid people convince masses of stupid people that a piece of paer of cloth will stop invisible particle from infecting ones self.IM STILL PUZZLED BY THE SMUGNESS I SEE ON A 22 YEAR OLD YOUNG MAN AS HE WANDERS AROUND THE TOWN WITH A MASK PULED UP TO HIS EYEBROWS LOOKING FOR ALL THE WORLD LIKE A TWAT WHOSE DOING IT TO BE DIFFICULT

Cristi.Neagu
4 years ago
Reply to  robwallser

Because people either do not care about the facts and just do what they’re told, or they are just looking at the mainstream news. This is a very big misinformation campaign, and people refuse to believe the media would outright lie.

tom171uk
4 years ago
Reply to  robwallser

Groupthink

Llamasaurus Rex
Llamasaurus Rex
4 years ago
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nickbowes
nickbowes
4 years ago

Just the mere threat of covid passports should shame the scum that are this revolting Tory junta.

Manjushri
Manjushri
4 years ago
Reply to  nickbowes

Sadly Baron Von Starmers Labour gang are no different….both report to the same boss, a very small yet very powerful global criminal elite who are orchestrating the global Covid Pantomime as a prelude to great global financial debt reset. It would be a brave leader who opposed these feudal scumbags. The previous labour leader (JC) tried and was crucified for his troubles.

Aleajactaest
4 years ago

.”Downing Street insisted, however….

who exactly in Downing Street?, no attribution, no truth.

realarthurdent
4 years ago
Reply to  Aleajactaest

The Cabinet Office runs the country. Not the Prime Minister. Especially not this Prime Minister.

BJs Brain is Missing
4 years ago

Dissolve this rotten Parliament and arrest the perpetrators of this ongoing and inhumane psyop. Why do people listen to these masked-faced liars?

Hopeless
4 years ago

Believe nothing and trust no-one.

steve_z
4 years ago

But I’d expect to hear very soon what the CMOs have decided – and I’d expect them to say the vaccine programme can be rolled out for all over-12s.”

child sacrifice program going ahead

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-58542140

robwallser
robwallser
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

tHATS A BIT DRAMATIC ID SAY STAY FOCUSED FOR GODS SAKE MAN

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  steve_z

“vaccination” against a virus to minors at no statistically significant risk of dying therefore – all “empirically decided by looking at a calendar with a red pen”

World class subterranean thinking.

realarthurdent
4 years ago

I know a lot of us here think the constant vacillating over policy is evidence of psyops and an attempt to demoralise an exhausted population.

But I’m beginning to wonder where they have just completely lost control of the situation now and are lurching from crisis to crisis and headline to headline.

Either way, if their aim is to make the population respect the government and be prepared to be led by it, they’re not really succeeding.

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I think it’s probably a mix of both, but also they were blatantly going to lose the vote, and they would’ve been dead and burtied. This way they can keep the threat going, and look like they are in control. “we’ve decided against it”. bollocks did you. you couldn’t do them.

Kung Flu Lou
Kung Flu Lou
4 years ago
Reply to  KidFury

They would only have lost a vote if Labour opposed. Very far from certain.

CynicalRealist
4 years ago
Reply to  Kung Flu Lou

True, but there was a real risk it could happen, whereas up until now they’ve been able to rely on Starmer to agree to everything. That plus the likely dissent of an increasing number of their own MPs could have been enough to tip the balance – for now, at least.

I’m sure it (or probably worse – lockdowns) will be back once they’ve prepared the ground by whipping up hysteria about the remarkable fact that respiratory illnesses are more prevalent in winter.

Squire Western
Squire Western
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Well that is what happens if you govern by newspaper headlines and opinion polls.

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

Nope. They are just.managing the global roll out of digital health passes for the world population.

That sort of project doesn’t get rolled out without the odd glitch. So a few pesky MPs have built a bit of heat around it? No problem, briefly pause and push on as soon as the conditions improve (a rise in “cases”).

tom171uk
4 years ago
Reply to  realarthurdent

I think they have a desperate need to obscure their impotence by creating a smokescreen of apparent activity. They are incapable of simply stating that they don’t have all the answers. Any answers.

Davke
4 years ago

They know they will be pretty much unenforceable in the real world but just like the idea of keeping the kiddies in fear.
My daughter attended an event over the weekend at which the promoter had mandated proof of vax or a negative test. 11 of her party used the same QR code! The staff just glanced at it and waved them on.
It’s all bollocks, like everything about this scamdemic.

rayc
rayc
4 years ago
Reply to  Davke

In the future it won’t be staff who’s checking the QR codes, it will be electronic gates shipped by the government. No more cheating then.

yohodi
yohodi
4 years ago

Here we go again..FUD fear uncertainty and doubt, straight out of the Ladybird Book of Behavioural $cience. FFS!

NonCompliant
4 years ago

The abusive relationship continues. What a surprise !

1984imminent
4 years ago

“No passports” then “passports” practically in the same breath, both stated with equal certainty (none, in other words). Just like “we don’t do lockdown in this country” and then “stay at home”; “schools are safe” and “schools are closed” on the same day. “We must reopen” and then “squeeeeeeeeeeeeze the brakes” last summer.

Keep the peasants well and truly confused, while committing to absolutely nothing.

Susan
4 years ago

Why are you wearing a mask Mr. Johnson?

paul smith
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

…it’s traditional among thieves.

Gregoryno6
4 years ago
Reply to  Susan

He doesn’t want his nice white shirt stained by the crap that dribbles from his mouth.

RickH
4 years ago

Bingo. Real headline :

‘Rationalists proved right yet again in sussing government double-speak’

TheGreenAcres
4 years ago

When the annual NHS (The Envy of the World) winter crisis arrives, we can expect these to pop up as the solution.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago

Gas lighting, flip-flopping, lying, more lies, half-truths, back to flip-flopping…is anyone keeping up, or listening anymore? It’s just noise now.

Catee
4 years ago

Yada yada yada..

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  Catee

Seinfeld fan?

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago

Check out the T&C’s if you are thinking of buying a ticket for any event, you’ll find there are several hoops you’ll have to jump through already, if you want to get in.

Squire Western
Squire Western
4 years ago

Boris the weathervane. Changes his mind constantly and breaks his promises. A waste of time listening to a word he says.

thinkcriticall
4 years ago

Wait until Boris comes back from the States. Enforced draconian measures will be a prerequsite for any collaboration.

Mark
4 years ago

The rise of decent political parties to replace our corrupt and evil established ones (“Conservative”, “Labour”, LibDem, Green, SNP, etc) does seem to have begun. Reform and Reclaim (and perhaps Heritage as well) have begun the move back towards reason and decency, hopefully.

Martin Daubney [Reclaim Party]: THE GOVERNMENT HAS HAD MORE POSITIONS ON VACCINE PASSPORTS THAN THE KAMA SUTRA
“I don’t believe Sajid Javid, I don’t believe Boris Johnson, I don’t believe the Vaccine Minister on anything they say about vaccine passports”

KidFury
KidFury
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Reform look good on paper…

NonCompliant
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

Better late than never but all the ground they ceded by not pushing back sooner is going to difficult to reclaim. They will be starved of oxygen by the media so it will be months before their online presence is felt but no doubt the idiots will use BigTech and get unpersoned.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark

I like Kurten’s Heritage Party. All of them should have formed a Freedom Council months ago. There is no leadership to our cause and I fear there will be no resistance to passport exorbitances soon.

Mark
4 years ago
Reply to  BS665

Plenty of time for them to shake out. These things will resolve over years and decades, not months.

Granted we might not have years before the coming economic chaos plunges us into “emergency rule”, probably under a Blairite Party of National Unity, for the duration……

scepticScot
scepticScot
4 years ago

Lockdowns, masks and the whole senseless shebang … all based on a minor but stratospherically ramped-up threat. As shown by the true figures compiled from FOI requests courtesy of this hard-working investigator.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheRustler83/status/1436583453315813379?s=20

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  scepticScot

Thanks for the info sceptic scot. 164 deaths where covid cited as sole cause in NI – yet BBC and other NI news media trumpets the figures as in excess of 3000. Just last week NISRA – the agency which in response to that FOI request admitted there was a total of 164 covid only deaths – stated there were 64 deaths from covid in the previous 7 days. Lies, damned lies and statistics. It is therefore no surprise that the people around me are scared witless by this thing and are almost afraid to go outside their own front doors, and see no end of it in sight – a neighbour told me yesterday they take weekly lateral flow tests. I have not taken a single test – PCR or lateral flow and am not worried at all about covid even though, by rights, I probably should be. All are worried about people being in hospital ‘with covid’ – they should be asking themselves the questions A) what underlying conditions do they have B) where did they get that covid infection – in a hospital??? C) what treatment are they getting? and, more pertinently, D) what role double jabbing… Read more »

186NO
186NO
4 years ago
Reply to  scepticScot

And this is precisely what MC/TY should be linking to every day – this sort of information is not corruptible – and impossible to deny either – come on MC/TY, “Get your act together and set up a FoI response tab” – “fact checkers” nightmare. Please tick up if you want to see this link set up.

JimmyTribble
JimmyTribble
4 years ago

The governments behaviour and intent, including the deliberate flip flopping is fully explained in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M

JimmyTribble
JimmyTribble
4 years ago

The behaviour of this government is fully explained by this excellent video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09maaUaRT4M.

We have to take every system that comes out of these would be tyrants and learn how to subvert it.

Old Maid
4 years ago

Goodness me; what a surprise.

Does rather make me lol that this site calls itself the whatever sceptic and then swallows whole the bilge pumped out into and by the msm.

BS665
BS665
4 years ago

So one day later and the policy is reversed. If you are going to rule arbitrarily by decree, at least get a stylish uniform and some facial hair.

artfelix
4 years ago

It’s quite clear what they are doing – aside from the amateur hour psy-ops (hint: it doesn’t work if everyone has worked out that that is what you are doing)

The roll out of vaccine to young people is going to make a lot of young people very, very sick this winter. So they need an excuse why that is happening. And of course it will be that all these young people have caught it in the nightclubs where unvaccinated people have been allowed to go in unchecked.

Oh no – they warned us we needed vax passports, now we see why. Let’s force everyone to submit to a lifetime of boosters and the forced consumption of pharmaceuticals at the whim of the government in order to be able to participate in society, without any chance of opting out, in perpetuity. It’s the right thing to do.

Milo
Milo
4 years ago
Reply to  artfelix

yes, it is odd to see the news today about boosters being rolled out alongside the news that vaccine passports won’t be introduced – how do they plan to get people to take them up without the coercion??

thinkcriticall
4 years ago

It’s not about the virus, it never was!!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1437382199163117568

Gregoryno6
4 years ago

I’d like to say What a fucking useless tool but I’ve reserved that for Scott Morrison.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Gregoryno6

Kim Jong Johnson is far worse than useless, he is a great fat communist fraud.

Manjushri
Manjushri
4 years ago

What a surprise! (not).
They want us all to be kept on our toes, guessing what will happen and be players in a game we didnt want to partake in.
That was an old KGB tactic to keep citizens hopes up then demolish them again and again until you are beyond caring and objecting to stupid regulations.

TheBluePill
4 years ago

This shows that they don’t actually want “vaccine” passports, but they desperately want the threat that they will introduce them. Evil and possibly illegal coercion.