Chief Medical Officers Say All U.K. Teenagers Should Be Vaccinated against Covid
The U.K.’s four Chief Medical Officers have advised that all healthy teenagers should be vaccinated against Covid, while admitting that “in those aged 12-15, [the virus] rarely, but occasionally, leads to serious illness, hospitalisation and even less commonly death”. The decision will trigger the launching by the Government of a vaccine roll-out for 12-15 year-olds, despite ministers being warned by the JCVI of the risk of side effects. The Telegraph has the story.
Professor Chris Whitty and his counterparts in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland said the benefits of vaccinating young people and reducing transmission of the virus outweighed potential costs of side effects for children and disruption to school timetables.
They also recommended that ministers “present the risk-benefit decisions in a way that is accessible to children and young people, as well as their parents”.
“A child-centred approach to communication and deployment of the vaccine should be the primary objective,” they said.
Boris Johnson, Professor Chris Whitty and Sir Patrick Vallance, the Chief Scientific Adviser, will give a press conference on Tuesday in which the Prime Minister is expected to announce he has accepted his chief medical officers’ advice and the rollout for 12 to 15 year-olds will begin.
A similar roll-out for children aged 16 and over is already running.
In a letter to Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, and other health ministers in devolved parts of the U.K., the medical officers warned that “in those aged 12-15, Covid rarely, but occasionally, leads to serious illness, hospitalisation and even less commonly death”.
“The risks of vaccination (mainly myocarditis) are also very rare,” they said. …
They… warned that individual choice to receive the vaccine or not should be respected.
“It is essential that children and young people aged 12-15 and their parents are supported in their decisions, whatever decisions they take, and are not stigmatised either for accepting, or not accepting, the vaccination offer,” they said, adding that information on the jabs should be communicated in a “child-centred” way.
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Chris whitty and Patrick vallance disgust me. They have put politics over childrens health.
Witless and unbalanced indeed!
Both are murderers on a scale that Harold Shipman could only wet dream about.
You make a good point!
Expect to see them in the House Of Lords. They didn’t do that to Shipman.
I had a thought
“Hello and welcome to the Shipman Awards”
Shipman? Mengele is the closer analogue. He conducted coerced medical experimentation, totally legal under the country’s laws of the time.
You’re right.
“Hello and welcome to the Mengele Awards
And the sheep go…….Baaaaaaaa!
( Or should that be Jaaaaaab? /)
They have abandoned the most basic tenets of science and reason and have been reduced to making insane and nonsensical pronouncements like the one today. We need to know whose agenda they are following and why. Big pharma profit, often cited, is not a sufficient explanation; this is much, much darker than that.
Whitty knows the kids are at no risk from Covid, even at its worst in early 2020, and especially now as it is endemic like its sibling the common cold. SAGE knows the pandemic was over in mid 2020 – as shown by the global genetic pattern of the disease. It now has the pattern of flu, with a small number of regional variations. He also knows that there are no vaccines for diseases caused by RNA viruses. There are just ‘jabs’ based on expected / predicted variant as with the flu.
‘They have put politics over childrens health.’
Not at all. I’m sure they have no political interest in the scheme; their interest is purely financial.
Boris’s Henchmen are all part of his Tyrannical Plan
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‘Notices of Liability for Vaccine Harm and Death Sent to the EMA and all Members of the European Parliament – Sep 13, 2021’
https://doctors4covidethics.org/as/
‘As the European Parliament resumed on Monday September 13 2021, with their first order of business a debate over health and disease prevention to be followed by a vote on Tuesday, a letter of Notice of Liability for harm and death from COVID-19 vaccines was served on all members of the European Parliament, and sent to the Executive Director of the European Medicines Agency.
The notice was a accompanied by a summary of the latest scientific evidenceregarding vaccine-immune interactions, and a letter from Holocaust survivors demanding a halt to the vaccination program and an end to unlawful medical coercion. The notice read:
“The rush to vaccinate first and research later has left you in a position whereby COVID-19 vaccination policy is now entirely divorced from the relevant evidence-base.”’
Good guys. Brave guys.
The universities, military and athletic conferences that are either mandating vaccines for healthy young people, or coercing these people to get vaccinated to participate are facing a huge liability risk in my opinion. The main liability risk will come from cases of myocarditis, especially in young vaccinated males. These officials cannot say they did not know about these possible risks. Also, they must know the risk of mortality from COVID proper in these age cohorts is as tiny as 1 in several million.
In for a penny, in for a pound.
He’s not going to change his tune now, is he?
Whitty knows he crossed the Rubicon when he actually started pushing vaxxines.
Will the CMOs be volunteering to go to any funerals of kids who die of Myocarditis secondary to the ineffective product that doesn’t protect against an illness that doesn’t cause death or serious illness in this age group?
They will probably try to say the poor child died of covid.
Died after “a short illness”.
acceptable collateral – is what this cnut is saying. I’m so angry I can barely type….
The previous attempt in 2009 gave a load of kids permanent brain damage – in the form of catalepsy / nacrolepsy. Both are on the list of expected adverse side effects for the current crop of drugs.
“They warned….that individual choice to receive the vaccine or not should be respected…..and that young people and their parents are not stigmatised for accepting or not accepting the vaccination offer”
but only if you are 12 to 15. Anyone else who has made the choice not to receive the vaccine is fair game for discrimination.
Plus has anyone any ideas as to why the government has cancelled the Valneva order? The company deny it has broken a supply agreement but the government claims that it has (I know which one I believe and it’s not this government)
As this is supposed to be an inactivated vaccine which deals with the whole virus rather than just the spike protein, it looked a possibility for OH and I to be able to travel abroad again if we absolutely had to be vaccinated to do so.
Re: Valneva,I suspect the Pfizer cuckoo in the nest is in the process of using all of its influence to kick all other vaccine providers out of the nest.
I think that you are spot on there. Also I don’t think that Valneva have large institutional shareholders such as Blackrock and Vanguard. Satisfying the greed of these shareholders is what this jabbafest is all about. They call the shots (pun intended).
Valneva is mostly held by French financial institutions, google tells me: Groupe Grimaud La Corbiere 13.72% Bpifrance Participations SA 8.98% MVM Funds 1.62% Management and Employees 0.74% Other Registered Shareholders 1.11% Free Float 73.83% As to who holds that free float, hard to say from google. Anyone with Bloomberg access can check it out. ALL shareholders want to maximise their return of any stock. It’s the way it works. You won’t get Vanguard agitating to do anything much as they are a passive fund: they are almost all indexed. Most of Blackrock’s holdings are similar, though they run more active money. The do oversee things from a governance perspective and ask companies to, for example, be more green etc so they can market their funds as “we care about companies being environmentally friendly!” (they absolutely don’t really give a shit, they just want to sell more products to millennials, and get their hands on more pensions etc). They don’t tell companies what to do, other than general comments which you can boil down to “make the share price go up” – which generally happens when you grow earnings, by whatever means necessary as long as you don’t blatantly commit any… Read more »
I don’t think anyone of the decision makers is deluded. Just using the opportunity to make money and/or achieve political goals.
I think there is also a bigger geopolitical strategy in play for making the whole world more China-like. In order to be able to better defend in case of (another) biological attack initiated by China. It’s easier to repel it if your population is trained to follow orders, much more difficult if the population effectively turns against the government (and itself) following an assault. At this moment it cannot be explained openly because China is still not just a threat, but also a major trade partner. But in due course (e.g. if a more overt conflict develops) this motivation may be officially revealed to mobilize masses into compliance.
How do we fend off China when all our population is maimed by the jab? The US is mandating it for the military! Unless they’re in cahoots with the Chinese, it makes NO sense unless they’re deluded.
(Almost) nobody is “maimed by the jab”. The chance of getting maimed is 1:50000.
According to the Yellow Card scheme (which is hugely under-reported), approximately 1-in-30,000 die after having the jab. And the chances of other, significant side-effects, are more prevalent.
Yellow Cards are not “hugely underreported”. Rather, if anything they are overreported because, just like the “covid deaths” they do not represent causation or “excess deaths” over the statistically known population averages. You can’t just attribute every reported death which occurred after a vaccination to the effect of the vaccine. People keep dying for many reasons, whether vaccinated or not. And the great majority of reported “adverse events” aren’t really such – fever/headache/muscle pain are all expected temporary side effects, and yet they are still reported, leading to the overwhelming number of “yellow cards”. From my own experience, I get sinus congestion and cough after swimming in cold outdoor water (which I do quite regularly). Had I reported these symptoms as “adverse events” after vaccination, some idiot online would surely point to them and claim them as terrible consequences of the vaccine. Had I not known beforehand that I would get exactly these symptoms and went swimming soon after vaccination, hell, I might personally be confused into believing that they were side effects of the vaccine. From that small example you can see how much bs gets reported via yellow cards (and those who run the system are very well… Read more »
There is research to back up the fact that passive reporting systems under report (although less so with serious events). Rosenthal and Chen, 1995
https://ajph.aphapublications.org/doi/abs/10.2105/AJPH.85.12.1706
OK. Replying to the Devil’s Advocate above, and The Daily
SepticSceptic and its ‘Readers’ may I add the following thoughts?The Yellow Card system and other like adverse reaction systems such as VAERS all point to events many orders of magnitude over what has come to be accepted for normal medications & vaccinations. In the main these reporting systems are used by medical professionals, indeed the process in filing an event is difficult for a lay person to complete.
So why are Governments and Chief Medical Officers ignoring the adverse data and surging ahead with UNIVERSAL vaccinations regardless??? Other than crass stupidity and/or ignorance may I suggest another scenario, the adverse reaction data is perfectly acceptable!! We should not compare the figures relative to ’Normal’ medical interventions, but to very serious treatments such as Chemotherapy, Radiotherapy, Open Heart surgery, etc.
in which case the adverse side effects of mRNA vaccines are at the lower end.
If this reasoning is correct, then the danger of SARS-Cov-2 virus and its dis-ease Covid19 is in the same ‘League’ as Cancer etc. WHAT AREN’T THEY TELLING US?????
Prick. Literally.
This is a very short term perspective.
1) we know the jab potentiates infection (see recent PHE data) with the delta variant
2) we have near certainty the virus was created in a lab in Wuhan, so there is Chinese involvement and know how to a degree
3) we know that gain of function research has been conducted and the ability to design viruses with greater affinity for different receptors exists
Its not beyond imagination that the Chinese, should they wish to take out the US, could release another variant that was more harmful than delta….perhaps has greater affinity for the non binding antibodies, leading to ADE in a chunk of the vaccinated. Even if it’s only 10pct, that would LITERALLY decimate the military if they are all jabbed.
Also likely 10pct of the military will resign if jabs are forced…so you may not even need to do that.
It would be just like the Chinese to take US funding to do this research and then turn it back on the west. Not out of character at all.
I would agree that the Wuhan Lab leak is most likely the initial cause of this epidemic, however a malicious or military element behind the research is by no means certain. Gain of function research is important for many future advances in medical technology such as developing virus delivery systems carrying a drug payload to targeted cancer cells. Another Chinese ‘speciality’ is Xenotransplantation, and for this virus & DNA manipulation is essential.
Accidents and mishaps happen, but many cultures do not like to ‘Own Up’. I don’t think we in the West are totally innocent of this!
Over a million Yellow cards, 1600 reported deaths, US VAERS numbers frightening – “almost nobody” is a disgustingly disrespectful description of the incidence of reported harm of these jabs – given that the death toll from these jabs dwarfs all previous EUA “vaccines”, some of which were pulled for far far fewer deaths ( Swine ‘flu etc), I reckon you are a health “flat farther” of an extreme kind.
“I reckon you are a health “flat farther” of an extreme kind.”
That is pretty obvious, Seconded!
“Earther”….
How do we fend off China when we have exported so much of what the UK buys ….to China – a great example of non joined up thinking from the cult of “Blair Global is Best”.
We would have to rewind our economy and tech’ base by about 100 Years.
Oh, err, S**t, I just read the News!
Fend off China? It isn’t China doing this, it is the ‘freedom loving’ west. UK, US, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, Israel … hmmm, that’s a lot of Eyes – 5 Eyes plus Israel.
It is not China I’m afraid, though I did toy with that theory for a while. We are being taken over by a global corporate body of multinational industries, funded at the centre by big finance. There are no more nation states. All the publicly owned resources will be privatised, and ultimately all the human resources will be owned by the corporations as well. That is the reason we are being tagged and barcoded. Our inheritance legally and culturally is nullified. Our children belong to the Global State (which is not a government as we would recognise it but a power structure of finance and industry.) https://odysee.com/@PlanetLockdown:6/Globalization-Analysis:1 In the brief interview Lilian outlines her understanding of the world economic/political power structure. Basically the world is managed as one large corporation and essentially we are already living in a world government but we are not aware of it. She has insightful analysis from her corporate management career and we hope you all learn from it Look at this post from someone in Finland. Your children are not under your control any longer, but are under state control. In Finland we have an on-line system for checking our health status – prescriptions,… Read more »
Nah, as of today, it’s still CCP making disobedient billionaires disappear, not the other way around.
In essence the world is run by people with the strongest military – the strength derives from weapon numbers, technology, but also soldier morale (which can be boosted by childhood brainwashing into patriotism combined with repressive authoritarian rule).
Of course, a lot of dirty work is outsourced nowadays by governments to private sector military contractors, to compensate for the problems with morale. But it is still state actors hiring thugs, not the other way around (lobbying and corruption nothwithstanding).
Dr Striangelove I presume?
If it was China, the US will be totally pissed. It has spent billions outsourcing its military BW research to thrid party countries as an end run around the 1974(?) BW Research Convention, yet the Chinese managed to outsmart them with one poxy lab!
This map shows the countries hosting the labs – not the number of labs. There are 6 labs in Ukraine alone. The frequency at which strange inexplicable disease outbreaks occur in close proximity is purely coincidental. The location of the labs is revealing – surrounding ‘enemy’ states and close to countries rich in untapped resources.
The labs are operated by US staff under diplomatic protection and the host country has no say in the research.
Even if the virus ‘escaped’ from the Wuhan lab, the research was funded by US (human side) and UK (animal side). The UK side claimed there was no possibility of transfer of knowledge owing to a Chinese wall between the two groups.
Please do not forget that where Blackrock/Vanguard (and others) run ETFs they become shareholders by virtue of OTHER buyers resulting in these stocks appearing in the index that the ETF tracks.
Of course they may choose to buy on non ETF funds, but the vast amount of these holdings are the realist of the ETF computer tracking programme – in the main, simplified explanation.
So the “active” buyers are the true “guilty” parties….in the main.
or even “result”
and often, despite trillions invested in these ETFs – they do NOT own any of the underlying stocks – sorry forgot to make that clear.
Plus the power of the ‘naked short’.
It’s not the Pfizer necessarily but there can be no doubt they are. I would lay it on Witless and Unbalanced – money makes ze vorld go around, ze vorld go around…..ze clinking clanking sound……money, money….
Well that is bold of the four. I wouldn’t want to be in their shoes as the advice given by the JCVI was not to do this. They will be sued in court as soon as a teenager dies or has some serious side-effect.
They have the courts on their side.
Yep Reiner Fuellmich has had his actions wrecked on that one.
They should all resign for abandoning science.
This whole island has gone to shit.
The whole world has gone to shit – with a very short list of countries / US states excepted
why would you vaccinate children against something benign? especially when the vaccine has no long term safety data? seems odd
Dunno but go over to mumsnet and have a look:
https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/coronavirus/4348086-All-12-15s-to-be-offered-single-dose-of-Pfizer-CMOs-decide
Darwinism in action.
Or rather, Darwinism-by-proxy as the self-righteous posters on there will probably push their kids into having it. Most of them seem to be indignant that it’s only one spiking as they have been programmed to believe that only the double-spiked are “fully vaccinated”.
God yes, there was one harpy there the other week who wanted her kids to have it and they didn’t and was asking others as to how she could force them!
Child abuse.
I can just hear the playground taunts forthcoming. “Unvaxed! Unvaxed! Get away from me!” And yes, kids do talk about this. I remember my peers gleefully comparing BCG war wounds. And Whitty thinks vaccines will “protect their mental health”.
Well, we had situation like that yesterday. At a family event, where we hadn’t seen people for well over a year, one of our in-laws told my husband to stay away from her because he hadn’t been vaxxed! He was bloody furious! He asked her if she’d been vaxxed then, and she said she’d had both jabs, but he was a danger to her! “So don’t you believe your vax works then” he said. “If anything you’re a danger to ME!” he continued “and, btw, how do you know whether I have been vaxxed or not?!!!” She then marched off. He couldn’t believe what he was hearing because what she said was totally illogical. He’d also only told his mum he wouldn’t be taking it, and despite the fact that he’d tried explain the dangers, she totally ignored him and had hers anyway…oh such a long story… and now she’s told other family members about his private medical decision, who have made it their business to judge!!!! Our in-law, with all due respect, did come back over and apologised, and we agreed not to discuss it further, but that bloody touch paper is so easy to light…
It’s good that she was gracious enough to offer an apology – but a pity it couldn’t lead to more rather than less discussion. One way I’ve tentatively approached the subject with pro-vaxxers is to suggest we just compare notes on our factual assumptions (IFR by group, etc).
Had it not been a family event, a joint wedding anniversary and birthday for said mum in law, we would have really opened up the discussion. But I’ve just recently had a major bereavement in my own family, and feelings are very raw at the moment. My in-laws have been really kind and supportive, with no Covid paranoia shown, so we were shocked when it happened. The good thing was that none of us allowed it to spoil the day, and we were all grown up enough to push personal views aside for the duration, and come together to have a well overdue celebration with family, which in itself shoves two fingers up to all the nonsense.
I think that you’ve illustrated the really dangerous problem – which is not about hordes of people dropping dead, as some imagine, but the assault on civilised behaviour.
One of the effects of the programming that has taken place is to reduce a lot of individuals below the state of a normal civilized human being to a that of knuckle-dragging compliance and antagonism.
I think many of us will have noticed this fear-induced, irrational antagonism or revulsion that a lot of brainwashed individuals have developed. It is, essentially, induced sociopathy – a mental illness.
The important thing is not to respond in kind. Which is sometimes difficult.
Indeed – it’s exactly the behaviour we saw from the most paranoid Maskivists while the muzzle law was in force.
Yes. But it goes further and deeper than just a mindset – it becomes a real irrational warping of personality and behaviour, where mere discussion of the evidence becomes a dangerous departure from ‘normality’.
I think the mass lapse into this compliant hypnotic state frightens me more than any other aspect of the situation. It’s like being an observer to a Derren Brown performance – but without the return to normality.
Ahem … it is still in force in the savage, benighted Celtic fringes, where knuckle-dragging is a way of life.
Level of compliance is frightening. Saw 2 masked pedestrians walking along the harbour front in Scrabster today, brisk breeze, more fresh air than you can shake a stick at. Did they believe they were at risk from a passing orca or seal or something? Tragic level of non critical thinking.
Reading your comment 2 months after it was written and frighteningly people are still wearing muzzles outside: over the weekend, I’ve seen a young woman walking in a park alone wearing her muzzle! I suppose she believes she could catch covid from trees or someone who may have walked the same footpath before her!
It’s called “othering” (or outgroup/ingroup thinking) and is basically the same mechanism as underlying racism and other evil behavior. The irony is that while all the woke nutcakes are triggered to foam at their mouth when racism is mentioned, they actively encourage and partake in exactly the same behavior toward groups who disagree with them, the unvaccinated being the most recent scapegoat designated for them by their so-called “leaders”.
P.S. Today my own mother insulted me – for opposing vax passes – by calling me anti-vaxxer, and implying that I am “just like Irene” (Irene being her truly nutty anti-vaxxer homeopathy-loving friend – of the sort you meet in this comment section). So as you can see this “othering” propaganda is working perfectly.
My homeopathy loving friend is also a Covidian!
Agree totally – I am in a minority of 1 among waverers. TOH works in the NHS and what she tells what very senior medicos blindly say about the jabs (eg which they advocate for pregnant women ) leaves me cold..
Germany 1930’s anyone?
They were pikers compared to this lot. Mengele et al only dealt with a few million. This lot are working with a few hundred million.
Same strategy as with muzzles – set people against each other, with the aim that only the most determined of the “unclean” will refuse to back down.
vaccine passports for schools not far off then
toddlers and pets by xmas
Well, not if they follow the CMOs’ instruction about respecting the decision of the child and parent – it would hardly be respecting if you expose the medical decision by making them carry a vaccine passport (even telling the school would expose the decision).
In fairness to the CMOs they have thrown the gauntlet down to the politicians who will be shown to be the shits they are if they reveal the private medical information of children.
If the spikings are done at school the schools will know anyway,
The unvaxxed will be required to do testing, so yes, it will be very much revealed who has refused it.
From story: “In a letter to Sajid Javid, the Health Secretary, and other health ministers in devolved parts of the U.K., the medical officers warned that “in those aged 12-15, Covid rarely, but occasionally, leads to serious illness, hospitalisation and even less commonly death”.
Question: Why can’t or won’t reporters QUANTIFY the number of 12 to 15 year olds who have died or been hospitalized from COVID?
The word “rarely” doesn’t come close to characterizing the real risk to this age cohort. The correct modifier to describe this risk should be microscopic.
In the U.K. in the first year of the pandemic, SIX healthy children died of COVID – out of 12 million children. Thus the mortality risk for children with no serious pre-existing condition was approximately 1 in 2 million (0.0001 percent).
I make it even less at 0.00005%.
The probability a healthy child – one with no severe or chronic or “life altering” medical conditions – would die from COVID were literally 0.000 percent. You have to go out to four decimal points to capture the “risk.” The risk are actually about 1 in 5 million for children who are not minorities. For some reason, mortality rates are much higher for minority children (and adults).
Also, to provide context, someone needs to calculate the Infection Fatality Rate for children for influenza and for COVID. Per my research, influenza is at least twice as deadly for children … probably 4 or 5 times as deadly. This requires some guesstimates as no one really knowns how many children have really contracted the virus. The real figure would be at least four times higher than the confirmed figure (based on PCR positive results).
Once someone has the courage to report this, simply ask parents why they were willing to send their kids to school for all those years when the risk they would die from the flu or pneumonia were much higher than the risk their child would die from COVID.
The parents are virtue signalling to their social group.
Totally rational but, I fear, the neurotic among them would respond with something like “I know! I can’t believe we were so careless! But at least we have masking and social distancing now!”
maybe it would be better to compare the Covid (non) risk with risk factors from things they wouldn’t dream of giving up?
Their cars, for example?
Depending on vaccine uptake, we are going to see more deaths than that from the vaccine for sure. NZ has had around 7 children die, according to my brother (only 1 reported in the press).
The death rate in that age group is normally extremely low. Even a small number more is going to show in the mortality figures, so I wonder what reasoning will be used to explain it away. If the politicians behind this decision were even vaguely numerate they would realise that the risk to their careers was significant. Not to mention the risk from enraged parents who by then have nothing to lose by taking extreme measures.
‘If the politicians behind this decision were even vaguely numerate they would realise that the risk to their careers was significant.’
Not just their careers, but their freedom – after the court cases.
If it were my child. I would mail them a photo of my child with “HIS/HER BLOOD IS ON YOUR HANDS” scrawled across it every year on their birthday and on the anniversary of their death and multiple other occasions.
Were post-mortem examinations carried out on those six children? it’s entirely possible that there were unknown pre-existing conditions.
There will always be a proportion of kids where dangerous conditions do exist. When I was at secondary school a lad in the same form as me collapsed and died in the playground from an unsuspected heart condition.
No. But the authors actually pointed out these six children COULD have had undisclosed pre-existing conditions. These six simply hadn’t been hospitalized with pre-existing conditions before they passed away. 19 of 25 were identified as having pre-existing or “life altering” medical conditions. The researchers knew this because all 19 had been to the hospital due to these conditions before.
I made a similar argument in a conversation today (that only 3 people in my age group have died in the entire city since the beginning of the pandemic – according to official stats).
And the counterargument was “right, but you wouldn’t be saying that if you were one of those three”.
People don’t get convinced by numbers. They get convinced by recycled photos, videos and sob stories about suffocating covid deniers – see MSM reports and government ad campaigns. This propaganda may appear crude and silly to a thinking person, but we should never forget that most people are NOT thinking.
I’d like to see a list of the things children actually do die of, with numbers. In my school I recall one death from leukemia and a few run over by cars.
“Chief Medical Officers Say All U.K. Teenagers Should Be Vaccinated against Covid” and I say “Why?”.
“A child-centred approach to communication”. Will this be designed by the agencies that produce adverts for kids toys at Christmas?
If it’s anything like those ones trying to persuade teenagers to get the clotshot, it will fail embarrassingly. They were just cringeworthy.
Aren’t they saying without saying that the kids should be vaccinated to protect the rest of us?
so the ‘child-centered’ propaganda is going to be more of the ‘you don’t want your granny to die, do you?’ variety.
Well that’s going to do wonders for their mental health then, isn’t it!
Not particularly good for Covid, but WOW we now have a vax for Mental Illness!!!!!
Given the heavy reliance on illogical emotional blackmail so far with adults, it’s likely that they will stick to this tried-and-tested strrategy as it clearly works with a lot of people.
I’am getting p**off with this Granny sob stuff. Both my Grannies died before I was born, one 23 years previously! (Possibly the Spanish Flu)
A lot of grannies (and grandpas, but they don’t count apparently) were deliberately euthanised as a result of Operation Cygnus. It seems grannies are useless eaters until there is a monetary political expediency to their exploitation.
People and their lawyers need to bombard these schools and head teachers with threatening legal letters now.
Home or collective schooling will have to be the future if this carries on.
The childless lizard Whitty will face justice one day, for that reason alone -hold the line.
I am just finalising the wording on mine now with the most up to date data.
Ready to send it tomorrow.
Chicken pox is more dangerous to children than SARS-CoV-2, and more significantly to other members of the family like pregnant relatives and grand parents; not forgetting teachers who may be pregnant, yet there has never been a requirement for vaccination or sending children home from school because of a single case.
Wtf is wrong with Israel?
https://www.jns.org/caught-on-hot-mic-israeli-health-minister-says-green-pass-not-based-on-epidemiology/
how long you got?
“Professor Chris Whitty and his counterparts in Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland said the benefits of vaccinating young people and reducing transmission of the virus outweighed potential costs of side effects for children and disruption to school timetables.”
Has Witless explained how the clotshots reduce transmission?
The clotshots reduce transmission by removing some clots from the gene pool. Slow and maybe not very effective, but give it time.
Told to go away and come back with the political “right” answer they did.
Science left a while ago.
We know from adult data a single dose of Pfizer provides at best 10-30% against Delta (and then wanes) so realistically a single jab will do absolutely nothing at all for teenage case rates, protect education or anything else.
We know we can’t give two jabs due to the firmer link between it and heart inflammation (this week pre-print [ https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.30.21262866v1 ] has teenage boys a 6x increased risk from vaccine vs actual covid).
So its being seen to be doing something even if the medical and scientific evidence suggests it’ll do absolutely nothing.
Whitty has become a politician.
Whitty knows this is all BS. He has made some revealing statements (memory-holed by the MSM) so what is the motive? Greed? He doesn’t striked me as a collector of luxury yachts or villas. Has he been trapped and now has to go all-in in the hope of survivng?
Here are some things that children aged 13 to 15 CANNOT do:-
Get a tattoo
Get married
Smoke cigarettes
Buy alcohol
Consent to sexual activity
Buy a lottery ticket
Buy a bladed article, including kitchen knives, even for cookery
Enter into a contract
Buy fireworks
Learn to drive
Watch an 18 certificate film.
Most, if not all, of the above are reserved for people aged 18 or over; or 16 in some cases.
They cannot do these things because society has decided that, as children, they need protection from making silly or unwise decisions that could harm them; either in the short term or longer. As adults we recognise their vulnerability, and sheer lack of life experience because of their youth.
But they are going to be able to consent to a medical treatment (a “vaccine”) that may make them ill or even kill them? A decision in which information is going to be presented in a “child friendly” way?
This is wicked beyond belief.
Criminals. I still can’t believe that for £22 per jab or whatever that payment is to our healthcare professionals, they are prepared to subject healthy children to unknown risk without any informed consent. It’s certainly interesting that many care home workers and NHS staff are now prepared to leave their jobs rather than face the mandated jab but they’ve all been quite happy to jab people they cared for and their patients without a word or protest just to keep their jobs.
This is the NHS millions have been clapping for – https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/feet-clay-and-clapping-nhs
I think it’s £22 a dose to Pfizer, and it was £24 for two pricks for Jabber The GP on top.
Better income stream than gold teeth, bales of human hair and other spoils of the past.
Is there a free lampshade?
The jabbing is mostly going to be performed in schools by underqualified people off the streets given a quick “training” and set loose on our children.
They kept this out of the hands of qualified medical professions because they know these acts put them in breach of their medical responsibility to their patients and there is a possibility of doctors finally refusing to harm their patients..
One of the reasons that the jabs are often fatal is that they are supposed to be delivered intra-muscularly, something that requires ‘aspiration’ of the syringe to check that no blood comes back. This is not being done so increasing the chances of the vaccine ending up in the vasculature then quickly to heart, lungs, brain, liver, spleen, ovaries, testicles etc, where they do damage. It is only when the damage is acute that the known side effects occur, but low level chronic damage is inevitable and that is what will result in medium and long term adverse effects.
Just because you don’t die at the point of vaccination doesn’t mean you have dodged the bullet.
The myocarditis risk can manifest with sudden cardiac arrest (and potentially almost instant death) … or this risk can remain dormant for years and kill someone many or several years later (or cause a serious health event). So with myocarditis, it might take years before we start seeing the real adverse and potentially lethal effects. It’s inevitable in my opinion.
Yes the myocarditis causes irreversible death of cardiac cells. As the heart ages its ability to compensate for this reduction in pumping efficiency declines, leading to eventual heart failure. The degree of damage depends on the initial degree of loss of myocytes (heart muscle cells) so you may become an invalid by twenty, forty, fifty…who knows?
What reveals the genocidal intent of the vax plan is that myocarditis is being portrayed as something that you can recover from. Well, yes, you will recover, but only for a few years…you cannot tell how long.
My God, he makes it sound to fucking reasonable and fair. What a mindfuck of this country. Have just listened to the live broadcast. I feel I am living in a parallel universe.
I hope all these genocidal lowlife face trial for what they have done to children.
Valneva shares have plummeted after Downing Street cancelled an agreement to buy at least 100 million doses of the Covid-19 vaccine from the French pharmaceutical startup.
Yep, there is clearly something about the mRNA that is vital to get into pre-pubescent bodies.
I cannot stand these “no 10” press conferences and admire anyone who can endure them – the only news i want to hear about the childless Whitty is that of his demise.
Tolkien wrote this to his son, in 1944:
“And when it is all over, will ordinary people have any freedom left? Or will they have to fight for it, or will they be too tired to resist? The last rather seems to be the idea of some of the Big Folk. Who have for the most part viewed this war from the vantage point of large cars. Too many are childless.”
Tolkien had a lot of sensible things to say about good and evil.
The Valneva proved to be too harmless?
The mRNA technology is a drug delivery mechanism. The Covid drug gives them free Phase III testing with total legal immunity ‘cos vaxxine. Covid is ideal for them as it is low fatality with predictable adverse reactions, making it an excellent testbed for the delivery mechanism itself.
Their aim is to use mRNA techology to deliver ‘personalised’ drugs which means massive kerching for them. ‘Personalised’ drugs gets rid of all the pesky expensive multi-phase testing as each drug targets a specific person. It also removes the possibility of class actions in case of problems. There is no ‘class’ as each drug is person-specific. Or so they say. But don’t even think of analysing the drugs as they will be patented.
“It is essential that children and young people aged 12-15 and their parents are supported in their decisions, whatever decisions they take, and are not stigmatised either for accepting, or not accepting, the vaccination offer,” they said, adding that information on the jabs should be communicated in a “child-centred” way.
Not stigmatised???? Oh, come off it! If course, they’ll be stigmatised, that’ll be the whole point – social approval. Next they’ll be saying the adults won’t be stigmatised either…oh, hang on! And…”information to be communicated in a “child-centred” way”? Like everything bloody else…
That’s all right. Your local jab clinic (100 jabs per hour) is easily able to explain baseline serostatuses and antibody-dependent enhancement to frightened 12-year-olds….
“See Johnny, if you don’t get jabbed, you will infect your grandma and she will die, also you will not be allowed to go on vacation and all other kids will laugh at and bully you.” (child-centered communication)
Telegraph comments are incandescent with rage.
Same in the Daily Mail
I take some comfort in this. Although people with strong opinions tend to comment more, neither of these newspapers cater to a ‘sceptic’ audience particularly. That might suggest that support for the government is weaker than thought.
I think that you are right. Comments in the DM in particular have been noticeably more hostile towards the Government over the last few months. I don’t think that people are buying the fear porn anymore.
Even the comments in the FT are about 50/50 pro/against the government. Given the readership of that newspaper, lefty city folk, nobody is incandescent with rage though.
The modelled figures are:
Benefits – avoids 89 hospitalisations – 2 severe.
Costs – 3-17 cases of myocarditis – unknown number severe.
I cannot comment on the modelling which produced those figures, but, given the political pressure, I suspect that it was highly biased.
The politicians are right out on a limb here. All that is needed is for one or two kids to die from heart conditions and they are in a hard place. If I were a politician I wouldn’t care about the children – but I wouldn’t take that evenly balanced risk with my career.
It’ll just be censored in the usual way.
Note the articles about heart attacks on the field not making it to the MSM. Note the strange cases such as a young girl having three heart attacks in a Birmingham bar because she must have had her drink “spiked”, despite no evidence or desire to investogate. It’ll just be blamed on something else or hidden behind a smoke screen.
Here’s their greatest fear. A young male vaccinated athlete dies on the playing field – of cardiac arrest caused by myocarditis. I think this will happen somewhere in the world, probably several times. It’s just the law of big numbers.
Given the amount of money being wated on testing and treating healthy symptom-free people, the NHS is going to be running short of money for treating ill people.
Look this child in the eye and tell her she can’t have chemotherapy for leukemia because the budget was wasted on treating narcissistic hypochondriac adults.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Kjbzy6lW78&t=483s&ab_channel=Inspired
This is what they are promoting, these psychopaths
Jesus, even yokel parents can surely see this is a completely contrived and thinly fabricated decision, supported by absolutely no tangible evidence. None. Nada. Nothing whatsoever, other than some vague waffle about keeping school disruptions to a minimum which is completely in the government’s hands anyway.
I keep thinking that with each mountingly ridiculous Covid related decision this “government” makes, at some point the people will wake up and smell the kool-aid. If this doesn’t do it, then well and truly we are even more fucked than yesterday!
An argument that is often used by the hypnotized is “how come all the experts and authorities say one thing and you [who is neither an expert nor authority] say the opposite?” They simply don’t wish to grasp that a lie could be this big and a concentrated censorship effort this effective – presumably to avoid cognitive dissonance, and understandably by having had prior experience with true nutty conspiracy theorists in the past. It’s very easy to discard the truth today based on whatever information is filtered through to you. We are truly experiencing a Goebbels moment in history.
They also recommended that ministers “present the risk-benefit decisions in a way that is accessible to children and young people, as well as their parents”.
In other words, lie like the bastards they are
I’d love to see that presentation. To this day I’ve not been able to come close to a reasonable stab at the risks and benefits. Baffled as to how anyone thinks they can unless they’ve seen secret data not in the public domain.
There’s a lot of data and analysis on this site you could look at.
However, unless the presentation contains a phrase like: “JCVI think that the risks of vaccinating children outweigh the benefits, but we’re going to ignore that for no reason” then the presentation is simply going to be a lie.
Short term risks are in part available via Yellow Card data but it’s unclear how reliable that is one way or another, and I have specific medical history that may be relevant that is unlikely to be covered. Long term risks cannot be known. Benefits really depend on the risks of covid (unclear due to dodgy data collection) and the efficacy of the vaccine (unclear due to dodgy data collection). So nothing anything like compelling enough to lead me to get jabbed.
Let’s keep it simple and under-stated :
Conclusion : Administering these injections for an unremarkable infection falls totally outside the accepted ethical framework, particularly for younger age groups.
It really is that simple.
plus early treatment conventions have been established and successfully used to prevent hospitalisation – why are they not adopted in the UK with the same speed, propaganda and fear mongering as with the jabs – perhaps because “they” know the jabs do not work whilst the early treatments do or because Big Pharma …don’t want people to have benign treatments which avoid their highly lucrative toxic jabs…..is it that simple too?
It is not and has never been about the disease or illness. It is about testing experimental drugs for Big Pharma.
If a school kids dies after the jab and the media ignore it, did they really die?
The Media will provide the silence and cover requirec ready for the 5-12 year olds turn.
Monsters.
Waiting to hear from my daughters school. My gut feeling is to withdraw her from school for the duration of the ‘program’. She doesn’t want but I imagine the school will try all means available to change her mind.
I have heard of “mobile vaccine vans” coming to schools and jabbing the children without proper forewarning.
Common Assault. File a report. It would open opportunities to examine ‘informed consent’, coercion, the validity of the MHRA ‘approval’ of a medical procedure that cannot fulfil the grounds on which the approval was given.
It’s actually battery tort.
Yes. The assault is threatening a child with a loaded syringe. Actually using it is battery. The probable charge should be Assault & Battery.
Such unreported deaths have no doubt already happened.