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Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Do ‘vaccines’ pose a risk to young boys?

Certainly, “Covid” doesn’t pose a significant risk to healthy children. Someone posted figures suggesting a one in two million chance of a healthy child dying from “Covid” (6 out of 12 million in the UK), though how healthy these six really were, I don’t know. “Vaccine” deaths have been reported as something like one in 30,000 in the general population, and there have been reports of under 18’s dying after taking them, so you’d have to be pretty sure they were safe to give them to children. They are not safe, if they are killing more than all previous vaccines combined, so I would tentatively conclude it to be not in the interest of children to give it to them. Especially if they are really causing long term irreversible heart damage that could cause serious health issues after a few years of people taking these “vaccines” two or three times per year. This risk must be ruled out before giving them to children – which it can not be at the current time.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“First Christian preacher prosecuted under ‘Covid’ regs has case against him dropped”.

Disgusting how this diabolical government and its collaborators tried to suspend basic freedom of worship (though my friend from the anti-lockdown prayer group managed to finfd private services most weeks during the first lockdown), one of the human rights abuses that has most angered me. Remember how police stormed that Polish church on Good Friday? In London as well, and now the Dick responsible has got another two years (unfortunately not in prison).

vlysander
vlysander
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Well its all theatre

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Agreed. But freedom of worship is but part of the problem.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Fishy Sturgeon” says ‘vaxports’ might avoid reimposition of restrictions”.

Yes, they’ll just impose apartheid instead. I suppose this woman/man hasn’t heard of Israel (or South Africa)?

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Israel does not apartheid, you turd.

By contrast, all the neighbouring countries of Israel treat women like shite, because Islam treats women like shite.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

Sorry I expressed that poorly. I was referring to the “Covid deaths” in Israel recently, which for the last week are equivalent to over 1,200 adjusted to UK population, despite high levels of “vaccination”, compared to Romania which with low “vaccination” rates has deaths equivalent to less than 800 in the UK in the past week – and therefore Fishy’s “vaxports” would appear pointless. Israel is in fact the only relatively sensible country in the region. I wrote a long post about Israel a while back (which I can’t be bothered hunting for now) in response to a suggestion that it is not a good idea for the state of Israel to exist, as I consider the state to be perfectly legitimate – no doubt RickH remembers it!

(Obviously I wasn’t referring to “Covid deaths” in South Africa though!)

RickH
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

“I consider the state to be perfectly legitimate”

Your consideration makes it so?

So … you would see no fundamental problem if – thought experiment – (say) Birmingham was declared an Islamic state by the UN with the encouragement of the US and Saudi Arabia, and then expanded to take over a chunk of the Midlands?

I think you need to do a bit more historical research.

Julian
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

Well, it’s possible I know much less about the history than you do, but while it’s an interesting thought experiment, the parallel is stretched pretty thin. Isn’t the modern state of Israel more or less where the historical homeland of the Jewish people was? I don’t rightly know why the decision was made to create Israel, but I’ve always assumed it was at least in part well-meaning. It’s a difficult situation. Who knows how I would feel if I was directly involved, but I suspect if I were Palestinian I’d not be too keen on Israel and vice-versa.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  Julian

I set out some of the historical background in a post some time ago as I say, and I don’t see that there are any further historical details that would detract from the substance of what I wrote. people can take it or leave it. Bottom line is there are rights and wrongs on both sides. The two state solution seems to me the only sensible option, but is very difficult to achieve.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

I also consider it possible that “London” will eventually become an independent state, like Kosovo. The Irish free state has already broken away from the UK (similar to Israel, although obviously with some differences). History moves on, and I’m not sure that there is any historical information that will particularly change my views on the state of Israel. I don’t really have anything to add to my previous comments where I set out a number of historical points and so to give some sort of background and context to how the situation came about..
In any case, futile to try and solve Israel/Palestine on here. It’s hard enough trying to solve lockdowns.

RickH
4 years ago

‘Whataboutery’ : the sign of a lost argument.

Treating people like shite is an Israeli state speciality, with a particular focus upon semitic people – Palestinians and Jews – who don’t toe the colonial line.

I think that’s also called ‘anti-semitism’.

It also involves occupation and apartheid: Mandela himself noted the commonality.

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago
Reply to  RickH

No, the Israeli state does no such thing.

You are lying,

As for Palestinians, they are modern-day Nazis, they even fly swastika flags.

Mandela was a communist, of course he hated Israel.

vlysander
vlysander
4 years ago

Two words to face masks… fuck off!

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  vlysander

I’ll just add my full endorsement of your comment. Mask wearing is down to about 20%, if that, in my town. People have had enough. I think the idea was that they wanted to see if people would still fully embrace face nappies, even after the “mandate” had been removed, allowing a form of social approval to exist, where sanctimonious nap wearers would call out the “selfish” un-napped…But that hasn’t happened, especially now they’re in the minority. If they are too busy trying to convince themselves they are still scared, or, they really are still scared (to the point that there are STILL some massive drama passes) they certainly haven’t got the balls to call anyone else out!

A Heretic
A Heretic
4 years ago
Reply to  HelenaHancart

where sanctimonious nap wearers would call out the “selfish” un-napped

I have a colleague like that. he keeps attending largish events and then moaning that nobody was wearing a mask. So far I’ve resisted the urge to tell him to stay at fucking home if you don’t like it.

AndyPandy
AndyPandy
4 years ago
Reply to  vlysander

There’s one TFL service where despite Sadiq Khan’s threats it’s less than half with masks now. I’m not going to say which it is on here, but it is a relief to see some faces again. Similar in many shops now too, many have realised masks are a waste of time, and will be forever if they don’t put a stop to it. Seems to be mainly older people and the virtue signallers- ‘look at me, I’m doing this for you’. As for the man I saw this morning, in a mask outdoors in the deserted high street at 7am, well words fail me.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“NSW imposes alcohol limits on apartments taken over by NSW health to ‘ensure safety of staff and residents’ “.

Because prohibition worked so well last time. Does their tyranny know no limits? Are some parts of Australia today really very different to prison camps?

Australia has also banned Ivermectin except for state-approved (i.e. non-Covid) reasons, reports the lying Grauniad. I wonder if they can still get quercetin…

stewart
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

The world has become a paradise for people who get pleasure from telling others what to do. They’re sadists who have suddenly found they can get away with bossing everyone around and get a creepy thrill out of it.

OnceIWasARemainer
OnceIWasARemainer
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Shame Australia is such a remote landmass, else there could be good opprtunities for smuggling ivermectin in. maybe it works, maybe it doesn’t but it must be worth a try, and if a state has banned it then even if it is useless it is worth smuggling in simply to oppose them.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

“Government set to override JCVI on child vaccination”.

Surprise, surprise. Can this government still be trusted? (See also my post above).

OnceIWasARemainer
OnceIWasARemainer
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Has that question been worth asking at any point since “3 weeks” got extended?

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago

Oh yes, keep calling them out. We know they can’t be trusted, with all their disingenuous “no plans” comments, and all the rest of it. But all sorts of people read this site. And a rhetorical question can be quite useful. Or something.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  Hugh

Well, they’re now NOT “following the science” so I’d say that was a major “NO”, not that I trusted them from day one!

OnceIWasARemainer
OnceIWasARemainer
4 years ago

Could Toby perhaps actually start posting tactical discussions of how to fight back against the ID pass plans, Scotland has just shown us the drak road ahead and writing to MSPs was not enough. A little under half did a valiant job of opposing, but it wasn’t enough. Political opponents of vaccine passes need support on the streets. The good people of the CRG and Lib Dems need an ARMY, as does Laurence Fox. This is a hill worth dying on, better to go down fighting now than slowly die inside as a social credit system sucks away your spirit. Toby, organise us, we need no longer hear a thousand arguments OF THE SAME KIND as to how lockdowns have killed and vaccine passports are useless, this fight will not be won with facts, the enemy has no interest in facts. Start telling us what and where for the rebellion.

Susan
4 years ago

TY, more faint than pursuing, I’m afraid.

BurlingtonBertie
4 years ago

Dan Astin Gregory of Pandemic Podcast has a #together #novaccinepassports campaign

Moist Von Lipwig
4 years ago

“Sturgeon says Covid passports might be only way to avoid new lockdown”.

She wants a permanent nanny state, the evil little hag.

She would lock down for a million years, beginning in one second’s time if she thought she would get away with it.

1984imminent
4 years ago

More vax coercion. More nudges. More “no plans” to test the public reaction. Do they think we don’t notice they are doing this? The message is basically:
“Get your jab, or we’ll put you back in face nappies.”
“Get your jab, or we’ll lock you down again.”
“Get your jab, or we’ll close the schools again.”
“Get your jab, or we’ll cancel Christmas again.”
“Get your jab, because you’ve seen what we can do, and we shan’t hesitate to do it again.”
This time, there will be an angry public for them to deal with who are noticing that they are being conned, not a cowed and timid public who believed every word from Saint Boris’s orifice this time last year.

HelenaHancart
HelenaHancart
4 years ago
Reply to  1984imminent

And at the same time they bray and brag about how the uptake has been so bloody marvellous, with 88% (or something) compliance when it suits THEM! Anybody can see that there is now enough immunity in the community to throw away their bloody diktats, because after all the Vs ARE “safe and effective” and they work…don’t they? (sarcasm intended!) Yep, their flip-flopping, gaslighting, mendacious lying and coercions have worn thin, and so has the patience of many more people!

Fingerache Philip
Fingerache Philip
4 years ago

“The British people will not live in fear” (Aftermath of 9/11) says the Bozzer.
FFS!!!!!!

RickH
4 years ago

Van Tam (£600,000 Big Pharma promoter in Chief) :

don’t go to games if you’ve got symptoms”

Which actually sensible advice re. any virus and any situation gets lost in a welter of nonsense about ‘infection’..

John
4 years ago

Just watched the tail end of last night of the proms on BBC, the irony of a “socially distanced” choir and orchestra playing “Rule Britannia”, (Britons shall never never be slaves) and “Land of hope and glory” (mother of the free how shall we extol thee?). The audience was singing with vigour although some were still masked.

Hugh
Hugh
4 years ago
Reply to  John

Could people get in there without “vaccination” I wonder?

Mother of the free is ringing a bit hollow these days, especially when the Conservative party say it. I suppose they’ll sing that at their ruddy conference, just after bringing in “vaccine” apartheid.