Unvaccinated NHS Workers to Be Barred from Seeing Patients
The Government is due to publish a consultation today on mandatory Covid vaccination for NHS staff, with the Times reporting that workers will be legally obliged to get ‘jabbed’ in order to see patients – or face getting sacked.
The Government will publish a consultation today on plans to make vaccination a condition of employment for 1.2 million frontline NHS workers. Those who refuse will be barred from working with patients, meaning that they will need to be redeployed or could even lose their jobs.
Official figures show that 8% of NHS workers, equivalent to 116,717, have not received their first dose. In London 14% of NHS workers have not received their first jab.
The Government has already announced that from November 11th vaccination will be compulsory for all care workers, prompting warnings that tens of thousands of care workers could leave the profession.
The NHS confederation, which represents organisations in the health service, has argued that compulsory vaccination is unnecessary because NHS staff are “overwhelmingly doing the right thing”. However, Boris Johnson is said to be concerned about the role of unvaccinated staff in the spread of the virus in hospitals. …
Johnson spoke about people who were unvaccinated during a hospital visit yesterday. He told the BBC: “What I’m particularly concerned about is that in great hospitals like this, 75% of the people who are succumbing to Covid are not vaccinated. What I would really say to everybody is come on now. It’s a great thing to get a vaccination.”
A study by The BMJ in February found that inoculation rates among ethnic minority doctors and healthcare staff were significantly lower than among white staff. Health and care workers were in the first and second priority groups for vaccination.
A Government source said that the Prime Minister personally backed the plan for mandatory vaccination, adding: “It’s only right that those who are caring for people who are particularly vulnerable to coronavirus should be vaccinated. This will save lives.”
The move could face legal challenges. Lawyers have said that employment contracts would have to be redrafted and that a blanket policy that all employees must be vaccinated would run the risk of being ruled unlawful discrimination.
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If the prime minister has “personally” backed the plan that’s a sure sign that it is wicked and evil.
Here is an interview with a Milton Keynes funeral director who talks about the death waves associated with Midazolam last year and with the jabs this year. His contact details are in the video – Daily Sceptic should contact him. Might be too spicy for Toby, but I hope not.
https://www.facebook.com/ollycon/videos/507240376986419/
Everyone should watch this. Utterly chilling.
The Prime Minister can go swing – preferably from a tree. Hancock, Boris, Whitty, Valance, Ferguson, Patel, Raab, Gove, Starmer et al – I’d have no hesitation pulling that lever for their crimes against humanity.
I hope there are enough lamp posts for these traitors.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/SxyxWkttgZZw/
Mike Yeadon on Midazolam and the ordering and dispensing of 3 years supply at the beginning of the lockdown.
From nine minutes.
Hopefully with facing the fact they will lose their jobs anyway more workers will start speaking out against the narrative and say exactly what they’re seeing in hospital with regard to vaccine deaths, injury and ADE.
If they choose not to then they’re part of the problem and deserve everything coming to them.
Flu vaccine ~ 900M doses and 1,951 deaths. Covid vaccine ~ 200M doses and 13,627 deaths. That makes the covid vaccine ~ 30x more lethal than the flu vaccine, with the IFRs being fairly comparable? If you don’t need a flu jab, then you definitely don’t need a covid jab.
Excellent presentation. Do you have a link to a clearer copy?
Unfrtunately, I don’t. Bear in mind that the 13,627 figure is more realistically > 45,000!
No health care for the unvaccinated coming after this. They will still make them pay for NHS however, it’s only fair that everybody pays after all, if they can still find employment of course!
we could have unvaxxed health care workers providing health care for the unvaxxed – simples
and what happens once the clot affected realise their fellow clot affected carers aren’t much use?
To be honest I’m not sure I would notice the difference if NHS care was denied me, given how difficult it is to see a GP at the moment.
At least then I can re-submit my petition to introduce an NHS waiver and tax rebate for those of us who will be refused treatment. I’d very much like to be relieved of my responsibility to “protect the NHS” and the freedom removing and financial commitments that entails.
Because there was ‘no evidence that the NHS would treat classes of citizen differently’ the petition was rejected, but I could “remove that section” and re-submit a petition for an “opt out of the NHS”. I decided just to keep the original copy, it’ll come good in no time.
so only the infected vaccinated, with higher viral load, can spread covid – genius
And they’re multiple times more likely to be asymptomatic (but with highish viral load).
There’s also the ‘forgotten’ issue of superspreaders — the impact of vaccination on countries worldwide suggests that vaccination reduces the risk of infection for several months, but substantially increases the risk of becoming a superspreader.
Well, they’re certainly determined to bring the much-deified NHS to its knees.
Along with everything else – complete societal ruin seems to be the overall plan.
Correct. Agenda 21 and 30.
However, Boris Johnson is said to be concerned about the role of unvaccinated staff in the spread of the virus in hospitals. …
Johnson spoke about people who were unvaccinated during a hospital visit yesterday. He told the BBC: “What I’m particularly concerned about is that in great hospitals like this, 75% of the people who are succumbing to Covid are not vaccinated. What I would really say to everybody is come on now. It’s a great thing to get a vaccination.”
Oh p*ss off, you mendacious b@stard! For umpteenth bloody time: the V does NOT stop transmission or infection, it merely (supposedly) reduces the symptoms! Perhaps you’ve got your graph upside down again, but isn’t it the vaxxed that is still getting the Rona???
It does not matter. The plan is to spread the lie. And, guess what, it has worked for the past 18 months.This is one post from the boaters’ forum from this morning:
“I have had two jabs, my risk of serious illness or death from Covid is now very low and if I do catch it then it is believed by researchers that will boost my resistance to catching even further and it is believed it will also further increase my resistance to any possible new strains.”
The irony is that Boris must have been treated and nursed back to health by many unvaccinated medical staff.
Yes – that’s the downside 🙂
If he’d died, the media and talking heads would have had a field day in using it to terrify the public even more, and we’d have ended up with someone replacing him that could well be far worse.
I don’t believe he did have the lurgy. It’s just so much harder to convince a population to treat other people as biohazards when you yourself went out shaking hands and hugging and whatnot only days before, and didn’t even get a (real) sniffle.
Actually, I thought he’d looked pretty rough before he went into hospital.
Yes if you believe he was that ill in the first place, having seen what’s gone on since it’s my opinion that his hospital admission was all theatre to garner support for him and increase the fear factor.
Did he have the virus? Was he jabbed? I believe neither events happened.
There’s a credible view out there that says he wasn’t even ill. A nurse/doctor on Delingpole’s podcast said there was no way he would look like he did when he was leaving hospital if he’d been in ICU.
To be fair, that comment seems directed more at those who have caught Covid and been hospitalised, not us irresponsible ‘spreaders’.
That means 25% are probably double vaxxed! The 75% are also probably younger and fitter, and may be around for a calm down speech, and a bit of oxygen.
I don’t think you can make an assumption regarding the age and fitness of the 75%. With numbers of hospitalisations as small as they are they could easily be of older unvaccinated people.
That said, I would urge anybody that isn’t vaccinated to think twice about going to hospital as it supports their narrative. Obvs, if you feel you have to go, do go.
I’ve told my wife that under no circumstance am I to be taken to hospital if I get Covid. Good luck getting her to abide by that. I’m early forties and fairly fit so hopefully it won’t come to that.
Can this government and their”experts/advisers” get any more stupid?
Don’t confuse evil with stupidity.
^^^^^
THAT
See this: https://odysee.com/@LongXXvids:c/Ernst-Wolf-speech—summary:3
If this guys right (I think he is) then it’s not evil so much as desperation and existential terror, for the privileged and super wealthy.
He is right. He’s also right that we have to be careful how we fight back. Slowly open people’s eyes and stand firm so that those behind this have to push harder and harder and expose themselves.
They want to provoke violence in order to discredit us and excuse harsher measures. But we have to not give them that until they break and we win.
At that point, when we have won, the gloves need to come off and there should be no hiding place for any of them.
Did I read somewhere that Helmut Kohl said ‘Never underestimate the stupidity of Governments’.
Yes, but ALL of them, all at the same time and in the same way??
So the NHS staff are finally getting their just reward for assisting genocide?
Anyone have a problem with that?
The useful idiots are always the first against the wall, and tend to walk there too bewildered.
Genocide? The killing of a specific racial or cultural group? Wot? Nurses like me have to keep on nursing, what else would you have us do? Throw up our hands and quit every time we find ourselves governed by yet another group of mendacious fools!? Every government I have worked under has willfully mismanaged the NHS,always at the expense of the vulnerable causing real harm. I HAVE to keep nursing otherwise who else would care for people? The abuse of the public is by the state, what do you think I can do? I didn’t ask for any of this, from the closure of services to the banging of pots, hysterical media coverage or the implementation of C19 management protocols that have rendered the NHS inaccessible and completely ineffective. I have and still frequently voice concern, raise issue and remain unvaccinated. I now have to face the fact that I will have to fight to hold onto my bodily autonomy or lose my job. I have been a nurse for 17 years, paid awfully,worked under constant pressure and remained faithful to my patients. People like you piss me right off. Please turn your impotent rage in the right direction, towards… Read more »
Well said, I also get fed up with the ignorant and lazy criticisms of NHS medical staff here.
The goal is to eliminate access of ordinary people to medical care, and you lot seem to be cheering the destruction of the NHS right on.
Our government is at present destroying education and healthcare.
The aim is to demoralise and weaken the population. Can’t you recognise that western governments are turning on their own people?
They want you, your elderly parents and your children sick and ignorant and dead.
What is the position of your union reps? Are they on the side of mandatory vaccines or personal choice?? Will they represent the staff who don’t want to be vaccinated??
Yes, I have a problem with that. I’ve worked my ass off over the last 18 months in mental health for the NHS, doing what I can to help save lives. And now I face losing my job (and career) because I won’t get the experimental shit. Engage your brain before spouting judgmental rubbish like this.
Yes I do. My daughter always longed to be a doctor. At 30 she finally graduated from medical school and started work as a junior doctor about a month ago. She doesn’t want the jab, her husband doesn’t want her to have it as they both want children. I desperately don’t want her to have it (the other 2 members of my close family have taken it and I’m desperately worried for them). What do you suggest she does? She’s the breadwinner now and has massive student debt. She’s innocent of all this and has only the best of intentions, She’s kind and compassionate – she doesn’t deserve to be put in this situation. Please don’t tar all NHS staff with the same brush.
The government:
Also the government:
October lockdown just before all the un jabbed care home workers lose their jobs on 11/11… Hmm, timing is everything.
https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/how-the-nhs-went-off-its-trolley/
Some stunning figures reg. the NHS.
MHRA never scrutinised Pfizer study data according to Freedom of Information response:
https://doctors4covidethics.org/regulation-or-racket-uk-drug-regulator-never-inspected-the-pfizer-vaccine-study-data/
Excellent piece of investigation. Unfortunately the results are totally expected as will be the reaction, none!
Absolutely incredible. The government is looking to mandate vaccines as they are “safe and effective”. And how do they know they are safe and effective? Because the manufacturers told them so.
you’d be better off having nurses who have recovered from covid naturally face to face with vulnerable patients
last think you want is infected nurses who don’t know it because their vaccine has suppressed symptoms
does anyone have a link to any data on how well immunity from natural infection lasts?
I know it was 17 years for SarsCov1 and 80- years for spanish flu, but I can’t find info on natural immunity for covid
someone said to me last night that ‘both vaccine and natural immunity drop off’ and I laughed – but I don’t have the academic paper to prove it
Data suggests ‘at least about 18 months’. Because that’s the amount of time that’s passed since the first infections. Given the broad similarity of SARS-Cov-2 to other coronaviruses, there’s every expectation that this immunity will last for decades, but that’s a supposition.
This is considerably better and long lasting protection than offered by the vaccines, which have only been around for 8 months but have already lost the protection they apparently once offered.
This is what I thought
I read a BMJ paper from January that said there were only 31 confirmed reinfections worldwide. But I’d like to see an update with the last 6 months
The figures on “reinfections” need to be studied closely.
The only ones that really matter are of people who had COVID symptoms and tested positive, and later had COVID symptoms and tested positive again.
People who tested positive twice but had no symptoms on one or both of those occasions can be discounted, given the percentage of false positives delivered by the tests.
Even with natural immunity you may pick up the infection a second time but your body will in almost all cases deal with it quickly and without you noticing.
And if there really are cases of reinfection, are they in people with severely compromised immune systems?
A few individuals who had long covid from their initial infection were reinfected with symptoms & their long covid symptoms worsened. Compromised immune system seems to be key here.
A lot of the trouble is probably to do with the definitions of “positive test results”, and “infection”, along with the accuracy of the methods used. After all, the matter under discussion is about a virus that attempts to invade some of our cells. If we’re essentially immune, they can try as much as they like, but they could still be found, even when they are harmless to us.
Yes but if the vaccine’s protection lasted more than 6-8 months how on earth could big pharma sell their boosters every 6 months now? You’ve got to remember there’s profit to be made!!!
A few listed here.
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2021/august/26/15-studies-that-indicate-natural-immunity-from-prior-infection-is-more-robust-than-the-covid-vaccines/
Also here
Allowing for naturally acquired or pre existing immunity to do its thing is the way forward, alongside vaccination for the vulnerable. Like we do with flu vaccines. This was not debateable pre Covid but now we can see it does apply to SARS-CoV-2 as well. To deny it is really just being anti science at this point.
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.04.28.441880v1
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.08.19.21262111v1
https://www.science.org/content/article/having-sars-cov-2-once-confers-much-greater-immunity-vaccine-vaccination-remains-vital
thanks!
Immunity lasts indefinitely, although will fade as the immune system wanes in old age.
It’s dependent on how much the virus mutates to evade existing immunity, which is why immunity against stable viruses lasts a lifetime, but immunity against an unstable virus like influenza will decrease as the virus changes.
Most people still only get flu once in their lives.
Johnson lies for a living. As no-one is really calling him out, he feels enabled to say and do whatever he wants with impunity. He is a ‘modern’ dictator.
One has to be incredibly naive to believe anything coming from Johnson. I would no more do so than respond to Microsoft/Amazon etc. spoof telephone calls.
always respond to the calls for as long as possible, under no circumstances follow their advice though.
… that excepted, when you have time. Can be good fun – I used to enjoy stringing along the ‘Microsoft’ sting, pretending to be a complete thicko – asking them to repeat everything etc.
Some small satisfaction in wasting their time whilst quite enjoying myself.
The best result was always breaking through the bullshit barrier so that they ended up shouting at you. 10 points for that.
Up taxes yet more, and waste many more billions. “Johnson’l Fix It”.
Like most of the articles not worth reading in full, vile propaganda and psychological manipulation going on –
The NHS confederation, which represents organisations in the health service, has argued that compulsory vaccination is unnecessary because NHS staff are “overwhelmingly doing the right thing”.
These types of articles like everything else is straight from either Whitehall, the Behavioural Insights Team or Military Intelligence – they seem to take turns terrifying and bullying the population depending which group is the chosen victim.
So these NHS staff have gone from heroes to enemies of the state and if they demonstrate will fall victim to the TSG Police thugs like the other anti lockdown protesters. And of course the controlled media headlines will be along the lines of “Anti vaccine thugs clash with police” the slaves at home still believe everything they are told. How the tables turn when you defy the regime and big corporation which control it.
NHS staff should refuse to be bullied, the waiting lists are huge and it takes years to train new staff, and recruitment is a big problem. Help bring down this evil regime before it is too late and the real mass genocide starts.
Yes yes yes!
Save the NHS?
The intended consequences of this political assault on workers is blatant. They’re creating a real crisis where hospitals are going to be massively understaffed and care homes are going to be massively understaffed. Countless people will die as a result of the impending staff shortage. Sick people will start to get turned away because they’re not being considerate of the short numbers of staff.
We already have a bizarre situation of appointments being cancelled because of a shortage of blood vials – how can this have been let happen? Was there no contingency plans for such an occurrence? And where’s the outrage? My local GP will not be doing blood tests for over a months – how many people will go undiagnosed for cancer and other illnesses because of this?
As with the bizarre lorry shortage situation – are we witnessing an embargo disguised as a natural disaster? Such things have happened in the past. The British government did this to the Germans in 1919 causing mass starvation/death and the communists did it wholesale to the Ukrainians, Holodomor – approx. 10 million dead.
Make no mistake, this is Agenda 21-30, the Great Reset, mass depopulation. Evil bastards.
Not a bad idea to have tinned food, bottled water and a first aid book as a hedge.
Oh my goodness the current Johnson regime really is not only vile but stupid as well. The present NHS is barely functioning with 8 or 9 hour waits in A and E at the weekends, and a 111 service which certainly won’t be able to help you much out of hours . For many parts of the country there is one GP covering a million people overnight.
Now the regime will sack/dismiss thousands of highly skilled doctors and nurses because they refuse to be jabbed. I would just point out that many of the non jabbed are highly skilled surgeons. Human resources have great difficulty in finding such people at the best of times.
Many will just work privately .
I fear that’s the objective though, to get the best people who think for themselves to leave and in so doing escalate the manufactured crisis. Then the govt. will use the growing crisis to introduce more draconian legislation etc.
You have it in one – part of the agenda is lowering expectations, not raising resources whilst billions are chucked away on Test and Trace, equipment etc.
Hi guys and gals. I was hoping for some input. I’m seriously thinking about joining a union, as its not hard to envisage me either being sacked or having my career significantly impaired due to me not being vaccinated (or more to the point, my impending refusal to prove that I am vaccinated). I wouldn’t be surprised by an announcement about mandated vaccination (or more likely – a requirement to be vaccinated before being allowed into the office) in the next month or two. Any ideas of a good one to join? It would have to be an independent one. I work in the City in a technical finance role. I could do my job without seeing anybody in person, as indeed I have been in the last 18 months. They’d find it hard (you’d think) to justify sacking me on grounds of me working from home full time. My plan at the moment is to sit tight and say as little as possible, as even if I’m not sacked the leftists in the office would be appalled to know of my wrong-think, and were it known work will probably dry up. Any other advice welcome. Also, if anybody knows… Read more »
The funny thing is I have been working on the ” front line ” in the health service from day one . Nobody at work has ever asked me since January if I have been vaccinated . I think it is because most colleagues would think it was rude to ask.
I’ve been asked twice a few months ago and I said ‘no’ and ‘later’. In neither case was it taken well but they weren’t consequential people (although they could talk of course).
Nobody does anymore as they just assume everybody has been vaccinated. International calls are the dangerous ones as different countries are at different stages of their vaccination programmes, and hilariously people think talking about vaccination is an ice breaker.
I’ve had people talk about their own vaccination and then look at me expectantly only for me to ask a work related question.
Let’s look forward to the booster question!
… which is the normal attitude of civilized people.
The best union for you to join is the one that has the best local representation. The problem on this issue is that most unions are very pro vaccine. I believe that The Workers of England take a different view https://www.workersofengland.co.uk/latest-news/the-strategy-to-save-care-workers-jobs/
The consultation is also about mandating flu shots https://www.gov.uk/government/news/consultation-on-mandatory-vaccination-for-frontline-health-and-care-staff
Personally for me the issue is about losing autonomy over my own body and will be the hill that they have to sack me on.
I am sure I have read both Tom Jefferson and Margaret McCarthy question mandatory flu vaccine in health care in USA settings. Forcing flu as well won’t go down well with NHS staff.
“The problem on this issue is that most unions are very pro vaccine.”
Sadly, this is the case, and some unions, in terms of leadership/executive roles have applied the same rule-bending exploitation as Starmer in the Labour Party in order to keep questioners at bay.
That said – legal advice and representation should be totally neutral on the vaccine issue if it is to fulfill its expected function, and should work solely to protect employment rights for the employee.
I have been both poacher and gamekeeper, and decent employers and effective unions often have more in common than is thought. But the adjectives are important.
Apache is right, however – the skill of local representation, in the end, is the difficult decider.
No ones gettiing sacked. Keep calm and carry on. Too much scaremongering on this site.
And for how long will the definition of “vaccinated” for the double-injected last? Another great piece from Kit Knightly on Off-Guardian.org sets out: how-and-why-israel-changed-what-fully-vaccinated-means
You mean like the last 18 months?
You have to wonder if the Johnson regime is deliberately trying to antagonise people and force violent conflict. Which of course would play straight into their hands. Just deliver cold hard justice to the perpetrators when the the time is right. In the meantime stick together and support one another.
Highly recommend that everyone watches Ernst Wolff’s speech on the current situation. https://odysee.com/@LongXXvids:c/Ernst-Wolf-speech—summary:3
Viewed from this context, we can expect covid policies to become increasingly:
With the overall objective being to drive fear, desperation and division right up to the point of civil war.
The important thing for us to do is not bite. Simply ignore/mock the policies for the nonsense they are and point out to as many people as possible that none fo this has got anything to do with public health. The vaccine requirements are so obviously nothing to do with public health that I feel many, many people are starting to wake up. All we need to do is gently help them on their way and not fall into the trap of becoming tribal and hostile towards people who haven’t quite got there yet. None of these policies are remotely legal, so we just need to hold our nerve and peacefully overthrow the whole narrative.
Yes it’s a really good video. Watch and share.
I don’t see this stopping with the NHS either. It will be pressed upon all public sector workers, so if they don’t want this then they had better put up a fight.
I left NHS in 2016 and it had been increasing pushing an annual flu vaccine on all staff. What I see happening is covid and flu vaccines will be mandatory for NHS employees and anyone remotely attached to any kind of care/public facing role. My sense is younger generations will find this completely acceptable without evidence of effectiveness.
Nuremburg Code.
Where are the lawyers?
I’d prefer to see one of those unvaccinated ones; at least I’d know I could rely on a more understanding and sympathetic ear. I’d be more likely to trust their opinion.
I’d prefer to be treated by unjabbed staff because they wouldn’t be suppressed symptom superspreaders.
That will really help with the current staff shortages .The government should be applauded for becoming hysterical over a mild virus and then staying there .I believe as a health professional that soemtimes in hospitals there are a great many more serious illneses than Covid .has anybody else realised this or is it just me .have i een chosen
If Boris really worried about saving lives, he’d have made sure the medical profession wasn’t hampered by TDS and used HcQ and Ivermectin to help treat people.
The only information worth reading in full:
By LCAHub / 9 September 2021