The Story About Overdosing Ivermectin Patients Clogging Up Oklahoma Hospitals Was Too Good to Check
My latest Spectator column is about the fake news that circulated at the beginning of this week claiming that gunshot victims in Oklahoma were unable to get treatment in emergency rooms because ER doctors were too busy dealing with patients who’d overdosed on ivermectin. Incredibly, Jolyon Maughan invoked the story in a tweet urging Ofcom to investigate Calvin Robinson for promoting fake news! To date, the tweet remains undeleted and – who would have thunk it? – Twitter has not suspended him for trafficking in misinformation about COVID-19.
Here are the opening three pars of my column:
Last weekend, Rolling Stone ran a story about an interview an emergency room doctor had given to a local news station in which, according to the TV reporter, he’d said hospitals in his state were so swamped with patients who’d overdosed on ivermectin that gunshot victims were struggling to be seen. For context, ivermectin is an anti-parasitic drug used for deworming horses that has been touted by vaccine sceptics as an effective prophylactic against Covid-19. For boosters of the Covid vaccines, this story was manna from heaven. Here were a bunch of hicks so dumb they were stuffing themselves with horse pills rather than getting jabbed, with predictably disastrous results.
There was only one problem — it wasn’t true. A hospital in rural Oklahoma that had worked with the ER doctor issued a statement saying it hadn’t treated any patients with complications arising from taking ivermectin. Two days later, Rolling Stone issued a clarification saying it had been “unable to independently verify any such cases’”. Pity it didn’t try to verify the story before publishing it, but then it probably fell under the heading of ‘too good to check’. That was the attitude of various media organisations that rehashed the story without bothering to confirm it, including the Guardian, Newsweek, the New York Daily News, Business Insider, The Hill and MSNBC. Incredibly, the host of a show on CNN called No Lie repeated it, as did the best-selling author of a book debunking anti-vaccine myths. Perhaps the icing on the cake is that this little nugget of fake news was regurgitated by an academic at the University of Maryland who specialises in ‘mis/disinformation’.
Needless to say, Twitter didn’t suspend any of its users for trafficking in falsehoods and nor did any ‘independent fact-checkers’ on Facebook flag the story as wrong. This is the type of in-accurate anecdote that the self-appointed scourges of ‘mis-information’ are happy to ignore because it confirms their prejudices about vaccine sceptics being ignorant rubes. As a rule, any story that challenges the official narrative about coronavirus is scrutinised by these gatekeepers in forensic detail, while those that support it, like this one, are given a free pass. That explains why journalists at papers like the Guardian were quick to dismiss the lab-leak hypothesis about the origins of SARS-CoV-2, yet lapped up fanciful stories linking the Great Barrington Declaration to unscrupulous businessmen worried about their profits.
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Posted here the other day, but JP is on good form on this one and it bears repeating:
Hateful Joe Rogan Is Spreading Misinformation and Must Be Stopped!
“Good evening and welcome to our smear campaign against Joe Rogan
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To be clear, the drug Joe Rogan treated himself with is not safe to take. And also please notice how we at the media refuse to call it by its actual name. Instead we only refer to it as a “horse deworming drug”, in an effort to manipulate your mind into thinking it’s a stupid thing to take. With a little help from our brainwashing, you’ll think: “well I am not a horse, I do not have worms, I’m a human so I’m more sophisticated than a horse. Therefore I should not take this horse deworming drug.” That’s what we’re getting your mind to think, because you’re easier to manipulate than a horse.“
In the USA the medical system is so f***ed up that if yo can get animal medicine for your huma condition it is much mroe affordable, in the UK you hope your pet can take pharmaceuticals meant for humans if you need to save money. Some drugs are identical substances for humans and animals, depending on what parts of the body they act upon, so long as a substance is not actively toxic to either species something that deworms a horse will deworm a human just as well, same goes for antibiotics, although their use in animals is thankfully semi-banned here in the UK reducing the risk of antibiotic resistance evolving. Horses can’t catch covid, but if ivermectin can help covid then horse ivermectin is going to be just as effective as human ivermectin, though the dosing per pill may be different, humans might likely only need a fraction of a horse’s pill.
In the UK Ivermectin is prescription only (for humans) i.e. you need to get a medical bureaucrat permission to allow you to treat yourself.
If you’re buying for your horse you can purchase it.
ivermectin is dosed in per Kg terms so you buy for a 600Kg horse you can scale.
I recovered from Covid with hardly any symptoms i.e. a day on the sofa and a few lemsips, so I’ve not tried ivermectin, but I have bought it.
I remember the story about those dog biscuits which also had a version sold for humans – apparently the only difference was that the dog biscuits had added vitamins!
“Horses can’t catch covid”
they will
I heard tansy is good for deworming humans…
and this is why one does not frequent the sites and sounds of ANY MSM.
I listen to our local NE Scottish local city channel for music but mute the news as they subscribe to Sky news content.
Ironically, I get more factually, balanced information worldwide, from RT News (Russian) Try it, you’ll like it.
Yes. I used to watch RT sometimes. Of course they have their biases and issues they keep going back to, like other media, but I suspect they provide some good information too, and cover stories which you would be unlikely to hear about otherwise. at least on the other free view channels.
Desperate MSM lies in desperate times.
You can fool most of the people most of the time, but you cannot fool all of them all of the time.
They’ve had a darned good go and for the most part have succeeded.
I wonder if they’ll run a big mea culpa article, like they did when they mistakenly put a scene from Iceland among pictures of the world’s most polluted places some years back…
LOL, I think I’m described in para 4…
Anyways, withholding and actively discrediting cheap and safe drugs as treatments (this would have got in the way of emergency authorisation of the experimental vaccines) – was deliberate and not ‘stupidity’
Censoring any doctor/scientist, however much previously respected, who dared to have a different professional view/concerns was deliberate and not ‘stupidity’
and the deliberate and organised fear mongering, creating ‘a state of fear’, and making the control and mass vaccination of a petrified population possible – was deliberate not ‘stupidity’
so many ‘stupidity’ actions seem to make vaccine passport so much easier to implement….
I guess those that believe its just all a big mistake caused by incompetence and big egos and those that are on their umpteenth booster (and various other vaccines they would never otherwise intended to take) to keep their vaccine passports up to date….
will wake up
Once you realise It’s not about health it’s about coercing people to get jabbed, you then have to wonder why?
Once microchipped you are no longer human.
I’ve been wondering why for 18 months, and then I watched this: https://odysee.com/@LongXXvids:c/Ernst-Wolf-speech—summary:3 and now it all makes perfect sense, in the grimmest way imaginable.
A vaccine was the only way out for governments and the only way they see it ‘working’ is for everyone to play ball as they know anything less risks revealing the sham.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SARS-CoV-2_Mu_variant
“On August 31, 2021, the WHO released an update which stated that the “Mu variant has a constellation of mutations that indicate potential properties of immune escape,””
if it has he potential for immune escape then I expect it would whip through the vaccinated population. Obviously it will be in competition with Delta which is also whipping through the vaccinated population – lol.
Rational people say “so f***ing what”, unless the disease can both escae prior netural immunity and cause serious symptoms in the vaccinated and is much deadleir to younger and middle aged people than earlier strains then it can be handled like normal flu. If it ticks all 3 bad boxes we still don’t need health dictatorship, just public buildings to be designed with windows that open properly.
The cow-variant (Muh is German for moo) has been known since January. As always, so far, nothing is known about which gets published in form of “it might be more transmissible” and “it might enable immune escacpe” with “it might be more deadly” probably soon to follow.
For all which is known about it right now, it might as well exclusively infect double-vaccinated mask wearers and spontaneuosly kill then once they come within 5m of the next hand sanitizer station. Or transform SAGE experts into dung beetles. We don’t now for certain it won’t happen!
From reading the article I note that Toby still fails to see anything other than incompetence or ‘vanity’.
I don’t know for sure if ivermectin works for covid, but I know it is worth trying*. The point being the people who might consider trying it would need to be symptomatic with covid, and would try doses comparable to those used in the traditional anti-parasitic usage of the drug. Ivermectin is considered a relatively low side effect drug, so I am speculating here but it would appear that if it had no effect on covid then the typical antiparasitic doses would be unlikely to cause harm (again anyone thinking of trying it should do much more research than the cursory reading which informed this opinion). There is clearly no prospect of using ivermectin like a vaccine, as a preventative or, given how the covid vaccines really act, as a pre-infection symptom reducing therapeutic. So for a healthy person to take an overdose of ivermectin, or someone with covid to take such an overdose they’d have to be incredibly stupid. Other than certain politicians and supposed modelling “experts” that level of stupidity is very rare among the human race. That “the left” should run such disinformation headlines about huge numbers of ivermectin overdoses in Trump supporting regions speaks, more than… Read more »
Great point. Here is a quote from 2015: “The discoveries of Avermectin and Artemisinin have revolutionized therapy for patients suffering from devastating parasitic diseases. Campbell, Ōmura and Tu have transformed the treatment of parasitic diseases. The global impact of their discoveries and the resulting benefit to mankind are immeasurable.”
Winners of the Nobel Prize for Medicine.
https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/medicine/2015/press-release/
You’re right that Trump is still living rent-free in many peoples heads, despite the fact another guy has been in the White House nearly 8 months. The recent pictures of Obama’s big birthday bash confirmed that he lives in a sprawling mansion about 3 feet from the edge of the ocean. Undoubtedly he has sentenced his family to death by drowning in a few short years – what with those rising oceans & all, due to climate change. and Trump is supposed to be the stupid one..?
“Some of planet’s stupidest people” recognized the lockdown scam early on, instinctively rejected mask wearing, businesses shuttering, school and church closures, looked on in disbelief as patients across the world were denied treatment until needing to be hospitalized and in horror at the isolation of the old, cast a wary eye on touted theories and ridiculous predictions, sought out the censored truth tellers, and stocked up on prophylactics, as the “smart” people rushed en masse to get injected with an untested, genetic technology that continues to rack up the worst safety record in history. What is your definition of “stupid?”
You repeat the deliberate slur that ivermectin is a horse deworming drug. It actually an antiparacitic. It is used regularly and safely to treat both humans and animals. Like penicillin. You wouldn’t call penicillin “a battery farmed chicken drug” but it is, as much as ivermectin is a horse dewormer.
Ever noticed that most of the criticism about Ivermectin comes from people taking experimental biological agents, that didn’t make it through the animal trials?!
Not to mention the very questionable health “benefits” of being jabbed when you use ARR
by that i mean ivermectin does work, jabs don’t seem to work very well.
At least ivermectin didn’t kill all the animals it’s been administered to – unlike mRNA corona vaccines.
Touché!
Aren’t most of the hailed “vaccines” grown on eggs? If people knew more about vaccines there would be much more sceptics out there.
Yet again, the odious and self-regarding Maugham enters the frame. He really should stick to clubbing foxes to death in his kimono.
“Not aware that OFCOM has taken any steps”. That kind of rhetoric. The turn of phrase of the massively smug and self-satisfied doing a little twirl of victory as they dance in their apparent superiority. Before falling flat on their face on the banana skin of their own stupidity and ignorance.
Still Toby can’t quite get it. If Ivermectin is just horse pills taken by stupid people, then there is no valid treatment for COVID, and emergency authorisation for the so-called vaccines can pass through. But if Ivermectin works, then the authorisation is invalid.
This is why your tired old ‘just a cock-up’ story is dead in the water.
Too late for the USA, I’m afraid. At least 50% of the population haven’t bought the killer virus narrative and it is widely known that there are effective and cheap early treatments which have been suppressed by Big Tech and the CDC in the most comically nefarious way. Massive fail, despite multibillion dollar advertising campaign (also known as the Pandemic).
yeah. More ramp up in mandate rhetoric today. I just don’t see Americans falling for it anymore….
They seem to have more of a functioning democracy left. The founding fathers really knew what they were doing, even with the 2nd amendment. That used to strike me as crazy but I now see exactly the reason for it.
I might gain some respect for Biden if he announced an investigation into the vaccines.
But he won’t so I won’t.
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Let’s just set a few things straight here. There is Ivermectin that can be used for animals, and Ivermectin that is for human use. Ivermectin was discovered around the late 1970s, and was used in humans by the mid 1980s and won the Nobel Prize for its inventors in 2015. To say it is a wonder drug is not understatement, it is considered to be as important as aspirin and penicillin. Billions of people, many of the the poorest in the world, have been treated with I t. It’s a treatment so successful that it has nearly eradicated the two main illnesses it’s used for. New uses for it continue to be found. There is a huge body of evidence that shows States in India that use Ivermectin have had much fewer Covid cases and deaths. Doctors around the world have submitted many studies that have been peer-reviewed but subsequently suppressed. Dr Tess Laurie is one, Peter McCullough another. Dr Pierre Kory has a good Twitter thread that explains a lot about the suppression of Ivermectin. This also from the brilliant Bob Moran, Bob Moran @bobscartoons · 7 Sep Journalists are weirdly confident that Ivermectin is useless, despite 40 years… Read more »
That’s an important juxtaposition. I’m not going to wave a ‘miracle cure’ flag for Ivermectin.
But I’m damn sure that its efficacy data matches any evidence on the snake oil, and that it is indisputably safer
However legally if existing approved drug ivermectin works and has less side effects then the “Emergency use approval” is defunct (at least in the US).
A quick internet search (literally two minutes) produced these two articles. The first is an extensive summary report written in 2011 about the history of ivermectin use in animals and humans since its discovery in Japan in the 1970s. It is entitled “Ivermectin, ‘Wonder drug’ from Japan: the human use perspective”. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3043740/ To quote from the section entitled ‘New Horizons’: Ivermectin has continually proved to be astonishingly safe for human use. Indeed, it is such a safe drug, with minimal side effects, that it can be administered by non-medical staff and even illiterate individuals in remote rural communities, provided they have had some very basic, appropriate training. ….new and promising properties and uses for ivermectin and other avermectin derivatives are continuing to be found. One of the co-authors, Andy Crump, went on to produce this next article in 2017: https://www.nature.com/articles/ja201711 The author repeats some of the history form the 2011 paper but there is a new section entitled “The future: new potential/new target diseases”. Of particular note is reference to evidence that, in addition to its strictly anti-parasitic properties, it appears to be effective against asthma [especially interesting and pertinent observations],neurological disease, and cancers, and to have antiviral and antibacterial… Read more »
Then there’s Chris Whitty’s own 2010 paper on ivermectin:
“The drug [Ivermectin] has proven to be safe. Doses up to 10 times the approved limit [200 mcg/kg] are well tolerated by healthy volunteers. Adverse reactions are few and usually mild” (Chaccour, C., Lines, J. & Whitty, C. J. M. (2010). Effect of Ivermectin on Anopheles Gambiae Mosquitoes Fed on Humans: The Potential of Oral Insecticides in Malaria Control. Journal of Infectious Diseases, 202, 113-116. doi: 10.1086/653208)
The horse story is total fake news, they are trying to discredit ivermectin (it is cheap) so that drug companies can replace it with very expensive alternatives.
Ivermectin approved for Human use in 1996
All great stuff. I recall Ivermectin being advertised in the farming press back in the eighties. Didn’t know so much about the human uses except it is remarkably safe even in overdose.
Compare and contrast with “diabetes drugs”, a major growth industry.
Metformin is old and cheap as chips. It may cause B12 depletion and is commonly known as metfartin for its most notorious side effect. It may produce brown trouser events if not started at a low dose and ramped up slowly. On the other hand it has several benefits and is beloved of the “life extension” community.
Some more recent drugs were taken off the market for causing cardiovascular disease. One of the most popular modern (= expensive) drugs makes you piss out more glucose and leads to bladder and uriinary tract infections. Another type may be associated with increased rates of cancer.
All perfectly acceptable considering the profit. Ivermectin doesn’t come close in the harm stakes but is essentially banned over much of the world for C19.
talking to a friend who works in A&E
more people coming in with covid who had their second jab 6-7 months ago
what I want to know is
1) efficacy of vaccine
2) efficacy of natural infection
3) efficacy of vaccine then infection (unnatural)
4) efficacy of natural infection then vaccine
I have no idea, but I went for 2) as I’m not vulnernable.
I’m really interested in 3) efficacy of vaccine then infection – because this is what a lot of people are getting. Does the vaccine interfere with getting natural infection from the disease? or enhance it?
4) I don’t care about – they’ve got to be morons
https://youtu.be/8DOOZpGA_VI
Another story claims that ivermectin makes men sterile, based on an observed reduction (mostly not even a problematic one) in a Nigerian study of patients being treated for river blindness with ivermectin, with no control group. https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/data-crimes-ivermectin-and-sperm
Yeah right!
Ivermectin has been approved for human use in 1996 and used without any of these scary side effects.
What is however very clear is that the covid vaccine has been linked to possible infertility in males and females
Should have said “observed reduction in sperm count”
A great example of how we are simply being played and only one side gets the slap on the wrists from Twitter etc for misinfo.
Makes you even more sceptical
As always, the desire for more control only creates more things that need controlling
Vernon Coleman seems unhappy at reports that Dr Sam White has been reinstated as a GP on condition that he makes no public statements on COVID
https://vernoncoleman.org/articles/important-news-about-dr-sam-white
Has something similar happened to Dr. Malcolm Kendrick? He says in his latest blog that he hasn’t been silenced … but says that he won’t be commenting further on COVID. Maybe he decided that he’d said enough in the past 18 months and the truth is now too difficult to find among all the lies.
If this report about Dr White’s volte face is accurate, I am afraid I see it as a gross betrayal of all that many of his professional peers have sacrificed over the past eighteen months and all those supporters who contributed money to the campaign which has presumably resulted in him being let off at the expense of the concept of honour and integrity being defended to the hilt by others.
The impression he gave in his podcasts was that if speaking out for truth meant relinquishing his job then so be it. So I wonder what happened to change that? I would completely understand if Vernon Coleman was more than ‘unhappy’. I’d be absolutely seething.
What I’d like to know is who fact-checks the (often self-styled and mostly leftist) fact-checkers? We are slowly sleep-walking into an authoritarian, dystopian future.
The only information worth reading in full:
By LCAHub / 9 September 2021
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Ahm, the largest study around ivermectin and covid19 on which most of this metastudies are base, was retracted due to plagiarism and data manipulation.
Daily sceptic if you were true sceptic you’d report on this 😉
Some refs. to follow the rabbit hole:
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02081-w
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34341573/
https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/93658