Rumours That the Government Is Having Second Thoughts About Its Vaccine Passport Plans
Are ministers having second thoughts about introducing vaccine passports at nightclubs and other ‘large venues’ – or has the rhetoric always been empty, intended only to scare people into getting ‘jabbed’? A report in the i suggests that at least one of these scenarios could be true, especially following recent criticism of the Government’s proposals by Tory MPs, with one former minister saying that vaccine passports are likely to be ditched because Boris Johnson “hates the idea”.
Serious doubts have emerged over the policy, with officials now looking at whether case rates will require such measures.
A Whitehall source said “no decisions have been made yet” on the proposals, despite the Government insisting that the passes will be mandatory from the end of the month.
The source added that the Government was “watching the data and seeing what’s needed”, adding that it was up in the air as to whether the measures will be introduced.
It is understood, however, that infection rates would need to fall significantly for the Government to change its stance.
A Tory former minister told i they also suspected vaccine passports could be ditched, adding that Boris Johnson “hates the idea” and was just threatening their introduction to encourage young people to get jabbed.
It comes after the Vaccines Minister sparked a furious response from his own backbenchers when he said the Government was pressing on with the policy even though it “goes against everything I believe in”. …
Tory MPs lined up to attack the plans in the Commons, with former Chief Whip Mark Harper demanding the Government drop the proposals. …
A separate cabinet source said the Government’s position remained unchanged, adding: “We are still working through the details and criteria of how it would apply.”
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If anyone believes this they are beyond hope. Just more lies to try and dampen down the pushback. It’s coming and no doubt it’ll be announced at the last minute to prevent scrutiny.
Big Brother Watch believe that they are even trying to bring it in without a vote in the commons !
I get that skipping parliament is wrong in principle, but the result would be the same either way. Parliament is broken and has been for years.
They don’t have to “try”, they can do anything they damn well please, thanks to multiple votes in the Commons empowering them to do exactly that.
That’s needing another rubber stamp this month, but with Sir Forensic “opposing” the social credit apps only by demanding that they also require a weekly negative test (poor lad, he thinks it’s about vaccines or a virus), do you really see that being a problem?
Excellent must watch new interview with Dr Zelenko discussing Antibody Dependent Enhancement among other important issues.
DR. ZELENKO GIVES GRAVE WARNING FOR ISRAEL AND VACCINATED WORLD – ON HIGHWIRE
https://www.bitchute.com/video/K431QaWyCdLW/
And another great show from Asia Pacific with the brilliant Molecular Biologist/Immunologist Dolores Cahill PhD.
Professor Dolores Cahill says that vaccinations must stop immediately – Asia Pacific Today
https://www.bitchute.com/video/3hdu6Jl9lg52/
Wouldn’t it be great if Boris became the 1st to suffer ADE…..
You don’t seriously believe he’s had the real ‘vaccination’?
Also, I’m not the only person to recall that he’s supposedly had 3 jabs already!
Yeah, at this point I no longer believe in good news.
Tomorrow they will say something different.
More gaslighting by the nudge unit. Nothing more to say. Not worth reading at all.
Yep. Flip flops abound in order to cause confusion.
If this was the intent of their policy then they’ve failed miserably. All they’ve achieved is enligten me enough to delete my Google and Apple accounts. Am about to sell my phones too and live it up 90s style!
Another government seeded sob story: “don’t blame us, we didn’t want to do it but had to anyway!”
The remedy is in the government’s hands. Reduce the level of testing, reduce the number of test cycles and be rewarded with fewer positives.
Nearly 8 million tests in the last 7 days.
This has always been the case. At any point they could have quietly done less testing, especially once the vaxxes arrived. They chose to press on. You have to ask yourself why.
The conclusion is that they don’t want a remedy. And indeed, why on earth would they?
You said it for me. They absolutely don’t want a remedy.
No wonder there is a world wide shortage of blood test tubes. All non-essential blood tests on the NHS have apparently been cancelled……apart from covid tests!
Causing great danger. A relative of mine cannot be tested for diabetes as a result. There will be far worse cases.
But they continue to ban antibody tests, in case people (like me) discover that their naturally-acquired immunity (according to latest Israeli research) is far stronger than the vaccine, which efficacy declines 40% per month after the shot, whereas naturally acquired immunity declines 5% per month.
Boris banned antibody tests in his determination to get a needle in every arm – regardless of the fact that recovered covid patients who get the jab even though they don’t need it suffer between 2 – 4 times the side effects. There must be a battle royal going on inside the body as natural antibodies attack the invaders, hence my MP (for instance) was far more ill after the jab than he had been previously with the covid.
Natural immunity is for life. If you search there are papers showing that for the original SARS people are still immune to it today after 17 years.
Antibodies are short lived by our bodies’ design. Its T cell immunity that counts in the long term.
A story to promote the idea that the government are just reacting to events. Of course vaccine passports are coming. It’s been years in the making…
I can’t quite make up my mind which one is worse: vaccines, vaccine passports, or lockdowns
“Vaccine passports”, by which I mean social credit score apps. The other two are merely the tools to get us to those.
We’ll never be rid of them, and we’ll never be allowed to criticise them.
… or masks and incredible fines
Can anyone recall anything this government has said in relation to COVID 19 that is true, or even plausible?
Yes actually, but it was back in March and May 2020 when Vallance and Whitty trotted out the old public health policies.
As John said back in early 2020. Here is a montage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5pRn_peOWA
It is understood, however, that infection rates would need to fall significantly for the Government to change its stance.
“Yeah but we’ll only do it if fake numbers on our farcically sensitive, rigged test drastically trend downwards as we move into the annual flu season”
Dunno about you guys but I’m feeling optimistic on this one, I thnk there’s a real chance. Maybe they have a heart after all eh.
‘Maybe they have a heart after all’ – nah.
This Government is at war with the British people. Every action they take is designed to harm. Every word they utter is a lie.
understand that and you’ll understand the pseudopandemic.
From the DM about the scottish vax pass:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9973789/Vaccine-passports-introduced-Scotland-October-businesses-ensure-compliance.html
Does that mean if you say you are medically exempt, then you can enter?
In theory yes, but can they force you to produce a doctors note as is the case for sick pay in many jobs??
Maybe, but that wasn’t the case for face masks.
True, but the Digital ID appears to have been the end goal from the beginning, face masks where always simply a means to the end.
It’s a good job too, because I wouldn’t have gone out much in the past 18 months.
From the government website
If you have a medical reason which means you cannot be vaccinated or tested, you may be asked to self-declare this medical exemption.
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/nhs-covid-pass
Does this apply in Scotistan though?
Yes, no private or public, company or commercial body are allowed to ask ANY confidential medical questions from anyone.
Exempt is the magic word.
Sofar, yes. And it worked for me in Wan*worth yesterday.
They are working on a digital solution for the self-exemption.
On the negative side, one might have to download the app then.
On the positive side, you might get a green light for travel and abroad then too.
I am shocked by arfumo’s kink below, deem it illegal, it would certainly be challenged in courts, and as such also deem it to be a nudge op only, same as Khan’s London tube BS on masks.
can you say are exempt to fly on a plane and travel , exempt from idiotic ‘ test ‘ . the ‘shot ‘ the mask ? anyone tried and succeeded ? i would like to try
They already stated the NHS app allows for self expmption but they are looking at ways ‘peiple can provide real proof’ (read require)
Nope https://www.gov.scot/publications/coronavirus-covid-19-mandatory-vaccine-certification/
We are developing an exemptions approval process for medical exemptions. This will be finalised and published ahead of implementation.
It is estimated that fewer than 1 in 1,000 people (0.1%) of the population cannot be vaccinated for medical reason (distinct from those exempt due to age or participation in a clinical trial). Reasons may include medical contraindications such as severe allergic reaction to vaccine and those receiving end of life care.
Work is ongoing with vaccination experts, clinicians, Public Health Scotland, GP representative bodies, Data privacy and NHS Boards to finalise the process that will enable those who need an exemption to receive it as quickly as possible while minimising the additional workload for already stretched NHS services including GPs, and in a way that is compatible with the human rights of those who may be entitled to exemption.
Illegal under common law.
No wonder they didn’t mention lawyers.
Surely this counts as coercion to take a medical procedure and should be illegal? Where is the challenge?
A relative (who had had Covid already – yes, I know) developed a severe and extreme flare up of arthritis days after Astra Z 2, the pain is so severe he could barely walk and is now listed for operation. It has not gone away. About 15 women on a friend’s street email reported arthritic flare up, another relative experienced this along with many members of his running club. It’s clearly real, like the menstrual bleeding effects.
Are they going to force people like this, and like Eric Clapton, to have another Injection of Pharma ejaculate?
And the answer is yes.
Please get the word out to those you talk to on the arthritis reaction and plead for Yellow Carding and telling the GP. Many people will not have connected the events.
People should be protected from this. Anger will grow, although Stockholm Syndrome persists. My relative says he does not regret taking the AZ jab. !!! It’s inexplicable to me. Is admitting a bad decision so impossible, or is it mass hypnosis?
It gave me shingles. Because of where it was, I thought it might be breast cancer but it has gone now. Very worrying for several weeks. I have heard of at least one other person who had the same thing in the same place.
That is the situation according to my understanding.
https://www.nhsx.nhs.uk/covid-19-response/using-the-nhs-covid-pass/#exemptions
Here’s the NHS guidance: https://www.nhsx.nhs.uk/covid-19-response/using-the-nhs-covid-pass/#exemptions
Basically, you can self declare exemption and the venue is not supposed to question you and must let you in. That’s assuming that this applies UK-wide and not just England. And also that the venue applies the guidance.
A Prime Minister threatening their own people?
1st role of Government is to protect the people, not threaten them.
I’d vote for a tin of beans if it stood against these Uniparty psychos
I’d sooner vote FOR the COVID virus than Boris Heath’s Carrieservative party or Starmer’s islington watermelon club
This story is a very late arrival to the Covid party.
Every single Covid measure, restriction and official pronouncement was from day one of the ‘pandemic event’ aimed at persuading and coercing agreement to be jabbed, with what are almost certainly intentionally lethal biochemical agents.
Even the dullest soul should by now suspect that there is something dreadfully wrong with the official Covid narrative.
That and shortening life expectancy.
We can’t have everyone living until 90 years or more, except for the elite of course where the rules don’t apply.
The one thing I will give Johnson credit for is he dropped the mask nonsense and made it a matter of personal choice. They are masked up everywhere in Scotland and will be for the forseeable future if not forever.
Now this shambles of a Government, with a front bench of liars, sycophants and thickos have three weeks to bring forward a vaccine passport scheme which appears to have no basis in science, and won’t stop all these venues shutting down straight away if they want to lockdown again should numbers go up. I look forward to the shambles when tens of thousands of football fans are trying to get through turnstiles and the guy at the front’s smartphone is out of charge.
Look at the Tory benches in the commons, not a mask in sight. And also, for all it was dampened down, Johnson did open up the country in July in defiance of the “experts”. Many will disagree, but I think Krankie has jumped into a trap and Johnson won’t now bring in vax passports to highlight the advantages of Scotland staying with the union. Krankie will be forced into a significant U turn and end up discredited.
Johnson did not drop the mask nonsense – they can’t get around the Equality Act. However, most people do not know that they can claim exemption.
But we can also claim exemptions for vaccine passports, not that I think we are going to actually see them in England and they won’t last long in Scotland either.
Forever. Queen Nicola has just decreed a new offence giving you a year in jail and a £10,000 fine for refusing to obey the orders of any costumed goon or till girl that orders you to put a muzzle on.
Off topic, but still on topic.
Last years August and September “deaths” from/of/with/because of Covid19.
Last year: no jabs, Alpha/Kent variant – deaths at rock bottom.
This year: 80.4% of over 16s “fully vaccinated”, less deadly (but more transmissable) Delta/Indian variant – People dropping at roughly 100 a day.
Table and chart below: (source: https://coronavirus.data.gov.uk/details/deaths)
Nobody seems to be questioning this; not MPs, and not the MSM (obviously!).
What the actual fuck is going on? Why is no-one up in arms about this?
Chart:
I should clarify: when I say, “Why is no-one up in arms about this?“, I, of course, mean:
Why is no-one calling out these 2021 numbers as the garbage they clearly are?!
Antibody Dependent Enhancement is what’s going on.
To be clear, does that mean these numbers will get worse, and another lockdown in short order? And what unvaccinated control groups do we have? India is close to ten per cent isn’t it? And Romania in reality not much more?
I hope you are wrong, but I don’t think you are.
It may seem cruel but for the good of humanity in the long run I fervently hope you are correct, to the extent that even the MSM and their “experts” have to concede that computer coded gene based therapies are dangerous. But, how many would have to die before these evil bastards would concede they were wrong.
I don’t believe it. All this “heavy heart….the PM hates the idea…..much soul searching…..hand wringing…..really hate it…..but we must protect the vulnerable….keep people safe…..prevent lockdown…..our hand is forced…..very reluctant….”
…..is all smoke and mirrors, to raise hopes then dash them, and keep people off balance. They know what they are going to do, and have done from the start.
Or to put it another way, it’s complete and utter bollocks!
Sorry, Tobes and co, but I’m too busy laughing my t*ts off at the thought of the i (it doesn’t even merit a capital letter, lol) being some sort of organ of record.
Nah; it most definitely AIN’T worth reading in full.
“Boris Johnson hates the idea”.
Why doesn’t Keir Starmer hate this idea, which will discriminate against the poor and ethnic minorities?
I think the answer to the first clause is given by the second!
There must have been a giant leap forward in the Governments IT systems and processes in the last 12 months, bearing in mind that the track and trace records were being maintained in an excel spreadsheet. This bunch of shysters will say anything to coerce people to visit the jabbatoir, with only 65% of NHS staff jabbed they’ll need some ba11s to make jabbing mandatory.
I hope every person who visits this site will apply for their medical exemption, my needle phobia is crippling me.
I call bullshit on this. Boris Johnson “hates the idea” and Zahawai says “it goes against everything I believe in.” They both know it’s pointless but go ahead with it regardless. They’ve obviously promised a multi millions £££ contract with family members or close friends. I hope every pub, nightclub, theatre and everyone else who they plan to impose this on takes a stand and bans these pricks from their premises forever.
We’re now seeing increased infection rates in those who were double vaccinate more than about 4 months ago. Other recent data suggests that the vaccinated-infected are as likely as the unvaccinated to infect others.
Given that this is the case, vaccine passports, which would allow the vaccinated more freedoms, would appear to be counter-productive.
The recent data also suggests that vaccinated healthcare workers are now more likely to infect their patients, and similar for care home workers. To demand vaccinations of them will likely make things worse in healthcare settings.
The vaccinated now carry over 200% more viral load than an unvaxxed which is why wherever these vaxxines are concentrated an outbreak occurs and more mutants appear. It’s a neverending nightmare perpetuated by the worse government we have had in modern times.
https://peckford42.wordpress.com/2021/08/31/scientists-fully-vaccinated-carry-251-times-the-covid-viral-load-as-unvaccinated/
The government has waged war on its citizens and it is our duty to RESIST!
What kind of fool listens to this government these days? Even their lies are lies.
Not heard anything off that snake Susan michie for a while…
Hopefully the grim reaper has taken her.
They won’t be able to blame us unjabbed if we’re not there to spread the disease.
They will say we are the reservoir from which all evil flows.
Nicola Ceausescu is introducing them in three weeks and Kim Jong Johnson is never knowingly less illiberal than that bag of shite.
This appears to be like that old trick used by abusers to win over their victim again – claim to be a changed person – to have seen the error of their ways – but its cleverly set trap to lure their victim into a false sense of security – the victim wants to believe their abusive partner is sincere and good and never meant them no harm and will accept their promises that they have changed – that they have seen the light – but they have not change – they can never change and so after a brief moment of calm the cycle of abuse begins again.
This is a government that uses psychological abuse to push its agenda – do not believe for a second that they have changed – like every other abuser on the planet they are calculating, conniving and manipulating – their words can never be trusted EVER.
This government must be removed regardless of whether they introduce vaccine passports or not – for them to ever even think about such a devisive idea tells you all you need to know about the mindset of these tyrants.
We don’t quite have vaccine passports yet, but check out the Covid requirements at any entertainment venue and we are nearly there already. For example, have a look at the O2 Forum in Kentish Town’s long list of requirements. Talk about sucking the fun out of a night out..
If people refused to attend these venues the game would be up.
Johnson hates the idea? you’re ‘aving a larf. He loves the idea.
The only information worth reading in full:
By LCAHub / 9 September 2021